>>107528600>Everyone get MORE ANTI AI NOW!!!!!Way ahead of you. (I'm not Indian)
>>107528600I am not anti-AI, not pro-AI either, I'm neutral about AII think AI is here to stay so I might as well get comfy with it
>>107528669this. but people want you to pick a side. it's a cultist vs schizo sort of thing.
>>107528669Wow you can't just do that. Treat it like any other technology where you just take it or leave it depending on where it fits into your daily life or not. You have to either treat it as the digital messiah or the digital antichrist
>>107528600a lot of people are going to use AI for bad (palantir, making slop that pretends to not be slop) so the onus is on you to use it for good if you want to actually make a positive difference in the world.
>>107528634I'm not against the technology. But it's obvious that it has done more bad than good so far. The extreme amount of AI generated slop on absolutely every platform is obnoxious. There should be toggles to filter that shit out.
>>107528728I rarely see AI content on these platforms. The reason you see it is because you're an insufferable jewish man child who is completely unable to resist the urge to go to the comments section and ree about AI any time you come up on AI content by chance. Content serving algorithms are based on engagement. That's engagementYou dumb retarded shitskin. It's your own fault that you're seeing it.
>>107528634fpbp
>>107528773>do nothing>see ai slop>"you see, anon. you're ACTUALLY doing <thing you're not doing>"kys.
>>107528805Let's say you're watching documentaries on YouTube. And you realize the current video playing is an AI generated slopumentary. Here's what you do:>Hit the stop button immediately.>Navigate away from the page That is literally the biggest down rank it can get on your algorithm.If you remain on the video and go leave a comment or you go and hit the thumbs down button that's a thumbs up to the algorithm. That's engagement. That's what is most valuable to advertisers. If you engage then you get more of it. You dumb fucking retard.
>>107528863>do nothing>see ai slop>continue to do nothing>not even engage with it>"you see, anon. you're ACTUALLY doing <thing you're not doing>"
But I still enjoy gooning to ai anime titties.
>>107529038ThisIt can generate exactly the specific kind of scat I like
>>107528600I don't get this type of retardation, how can someone be braindead like thisI mean really, taking screencaps of random twitterfag posts and using that as a thread? How retarded
>>107528968Kek funny image mind if I save it for further sharing?
>>107529074You love froggo too? XD
The seething is a bit entertaining. AI is fantastic as a tool but its also probably a bubble thanks to every company trying to get in it.The whole AI Art conversation is a bit interesting. From my own case, I've see smaller Youtubers for example use pretty obvious ChatGPT generate images for their channels with Thumbnails and profile pictures. Does that mean that AI took money off an artists hands on fiver? Maybe, but I doubt most of these people would have paid someone to make art for their project and just got a generic image from somewhere else. If anything, I think that people that use AI art for that purpose are the ones that miss out the most just because they'll never get to mess around with a photo editor and get the satisfaction of making something themselves, which ironically, with free tools like Photopea, has never been easier.
>>107528600Ai shills have been saying for years now that it's 2 more weeks until all work is replaced by AI and we get luxury gay space communism o algo. If you point out that none of that has happened some other retard calls you "anti AI" and says that AI helping college students cheat or whatever proves that you're totally wrong.I hate it here by the way.
>>107528689>shitskins vs delusional faggotsI'll sit this one out
>>107528773Social media don't even need engagement to tailor content for you, they're trying to guess what you read. If you keep a tweet visible for a fraction of a second more than the average time, topics remotely related to it are gonna be shown for you right away. It's extremely annoying.
>>107528600A.I jihad when?
>>107528600AI is for retards and slop enjoyers anyway.
>>107528600I've seen AI skeptics turn fanatics after they get offered a job at one of the AI labs. I mean it's fair because it's their livelihood. Only Yann Lecun has any integrity.
>>107528600the thing about AI is that it makes smart people smarter and dumb people dumbersmart people can actually assess and verify the truthfulness and usefulness of the output, they can tell if the AI is onto somethong or just hallucinating shit, to them is just another useful tool they can usedumb people don't have the IQ to do that, so either they trust AI blindly(and lose that little critical thinking they had) or hate it because deep down they realize they are superfluous and are going to be replacedleftists/commies are some of the biggest AI haters because they often are both retarded and think that useless people deserve to waste everyone time(and often money) with useless jobsthere is also the fact that AI kills many of their arguments for uncontrolled immigration, but usually they aren't smart enough to think that far ahead
>>107528600When Pro AI (TM) is nothing but defending slop generators it becomes easy to be against it.
>>107529538>AI kills many of their arguments for uncontrolled immigrationis that true @grok
>>107528669>I think AI is here to stayThis, desu. Pandora's box has been opened and we just need to learn to live with it.
>>107529609b-but everything i don't like is slop DD:
>>107529616Is this a bot reply? I don't even know anymore.
>>107529538>the thing about AI is that it makes smart people smarterPost 10 examples.
>>107528773>I rarely see AI content on these platforms. You're either lying or are just literally too retarded to distinguish real content from AI
>>107529625your medication?
>>107529074you don't see a "RARE PEPE DO NOT STEAL" disclaimer, do you?
>>107529538>smart people can actually assess and verify the truthfulness and usefulness of the output, they can tell if the AI is onto somethong or just hallucinating shit, to them is just another useful tool they can usethiscan confirm
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>>107529633Sam Altman, Jensen Huang, Satya Nadella, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Sundar Pichai, David Sacks, Mustafa Suleyman, and Dario Amodei. They outsmarted everyone.
>>107529730ultragayfuck copyright
>>107529446>A.I jihadinshallah, brother
>>107529730I hate artists so much, they ruined a whole generation by convincing them good artists only draw from imagination and never from referencing real life (cus that's stealinghg!!!!!), literal ladder pulling behavior
>>107528600Congratulations on reposting another corporate LLM drone's xitter post with signature ignorance and pseudointellectual babble, you're doing a great job, have a bump and let this board be nuked by "think of the children" laws. There's nothing left to salvage
>>107528728> But it's obvious that it has done more bad than good so far. Slop existed long before AI. I'm glad AI is removing low effort spammers from the internet.
>>107529074>>107529199>>107528968haha i love froggo XDD
>>107529814>I hate artists so much, they ruined a whole generation by convincing them good artists only draw from imaginationYou are just making up bs or referencing like 2 Xitter porn artists and using that to make a judgment about the entire world of art. If you spent more than 5 minutes in art circles you would know what you said is not true. At all. Drawing from life is how everybody learns. There is not a single good artist who didn't do this.
>>107529776no it's called being a respectful human being.properly cite and link to every image you post.
>>107529820I'll take man-made slop over the best media AI could ever create
>>107529861Thanks!
>>107529817t. dronie npc mad he got ruthlessly called out and is copefully projecting
>>107529891AI is inflated right now by investors and developers, eventually the bubble will pop and AI will settle into it's various niches and all the fussing and ranting & raging will settle down
There are certainly good uses for AI, It's just the bad outcomes are hitting the internet and artists particularly hard.I don't believe there will be mass unemployment either; new jobs will be created and living standards are likely to rise as they did with past technological advances.Overall I wish AI never advanced from where it was pre-ChatGPT because it changed things I care about for the worse, but it's important to try and find the positives.
>>107528600AI is getting pushed from the top down in ways that are blatantly not about usefulness but about meeting retarded executive slideshow metrics. There is a use for AI but not in the way the AI companies are shilling it. There is certainly not a use for AI at the level they want it.
>>107529975>I don't believe there will be mass unemployment eitherThe problem is that our current system can't exist without exploitation. Now that third world countries have a raised standard of living and aren't producing cheap shit for us anymore, and are competing against us, the elites have turned to exploiting their own citizens instead. We need a fundamental shift in the way our western economies and societies work because we cannot sustain the greed of a handful of Jew- I mean capitalist elites that want to own literally everything.
>>107529972>all the fussing and ranting & raging will settle downIt won't settle down. Article spammers, tracing artists, and other bottom feeders of the internet would continue to denigrate AI out of vengeance.
>>107529975I'm currently working on a project that will supposedly "replace" millions of white collar workers working in inventory management and accounting. After trying all kinds of RAG techniques, even implementing the famous fleets of AI agents approach, the accuracy is 70% at best, even in limited testing scope. The boss told me to hardcode things for the demo so it will meet 100% accuracy to get the money in first lmao. There's definitely a bubble being inflated by salespeople to clueless management. It's gonna pop and I'm not gonna be here for it.
>>107529873You say this but they're all tearing each other apart in art communities just with accusations of tracing AI art, or tracing over 3D models, which is what ixy has been doing and she even sold an online course that tells you to do exactly this and people were pissed.
>>107529972>two more weeks!
>>107529991Are you communist or fascist? Either way you sound retarded.>>107530035For sure it's a bubble, but it's still coming. Dotcom was also a bubble but here we are. Ports are already being automated in places: it's widespread in China and there's at least one port in the USA which uses robots. American dockworker union is trying to stop it but it will come eventually. That will mean lower shipping costs and increased trade resulting in a better economy.
>>107528863I do that unconsciously, I prefer the old loquendo over ai voices
>>107529074>kekpagan garbage
>>1075300583D models are fine but tracing anything AI made is a bad deed. Immediately that sets a portion of that work to have been AI generated and thus it is lesser.
>>107530058Well yeah those people are fucking hacks and just doing it for Xitter clout and aren't actually interested in learning art. Tracing has always been frowned upon in the art community. But not necessarily because of the plagiarism reason or whatever. It's because tracing takes no skill and the lines weren't actually drawn by you
>>107528600>how to justify your cult? Pretend the people disinterested in it are the cultists themselves.This is the sound of despair right here.
>>107528689It's a false dichotomy. AI is quickly going nowhere and producing nothing of value, but a pack of idiots continue latching on to it due to sheer ignorance or anti-social behavior. It was never us vs. them, unless you mean the AI grifter corporations wasting our natural resources and devouring our computer parts.
>>107528720Isn't that the main problem? The more these systems evolve, the more they prove to be a solution in search of a problem to solve. So far they've done nothing but cause issues, consume inordinate amounts of energy and inflate an economic bubble that's going to be hard to survive if it pops.
>>107530202>AI is quickly going nowhere and producing nothing of valuefew are saying this. you don't have to go very far to see artists are on suicide watch.
>>107530153Why is tracing over 3D models better than tracing over AI art when both require the same amount of effort?
>>107529820>I'm glad AI is removing low effort spammers from the internet.By adding millions more? How the fuck does that pustule between your ears even work?
>>107530035This is an Indian tard-fantasy.
>>107528600Yet again low IQ people can't understand nuance.A tool is only as good as the person using it.
>>107528600>screenshot of a twitter post written by chatgpt
>>107530405everything you consoom will be A.I
>>107530346It is not effort that defines a piece of art, it is the human thought that goes into it.Someone made that 3D model, so that someone's human input found its way into the final piece.Generative AI on the other hand does not count as human input, as the data comes from many sources and just trains a prediction engine. There is no intent, it is just pixels on a screen.
>>107528600284,000 likes and barely even 300 of those ""people"" went into the comments to upvote the responses.Social media is completely fake, they're fighting AI with AI. (botted likes)
>>107530058This was definitely a thing when I got into art but now it's somewhat fine because "the pros do it so it's totally okay also it's better than AI" Crab bucket mentality shit.
>>107530774No, that's just normal. Most people only engage with OPs, as most replies tend to add very little. The worse the fp, the less engagement the rest of the thread will get.
>>107530153why?
>>107530233>if we keep saying it, eventually it will come true!!
>>107531044That's "normal" huh? You want to see something really weird:https://x.com/JapanBanZaiLove/status/1988897715703496718Scroll down and look at the like counts. They're all sorted, arranged in perfect order. Why? Bet you can't answer this one smart guy.
>>107528669The real AI experts are against LLM architectures, which is an energy guzzling, extremely brute-force, inelegant system with usecases no greater than a fancy chatbot. There's a lot more to AI than that.
>>107529625I can't either. I just assume everyone is a bot. I don't even get mad anymore.
>>107529814What the fuck are you talking about have you ever seen anyone draw anything
>>107531058proofs?
>>107528600>>107529215I'm not categorically anti-AI, but it seems pretty clear to me that the attitude that the AI developers have taken on training their models - that copyright doesn't apply to them, is a case of eating their own seed corn. What are they going to do when no human artist will publish their stuff online anymore because they have all been pushed out by AI? Their models will stagnate with no new inputs. They could have had a mutually beneficial and sustainable relationship with artists by agreeing to pay them for the right to train their models on their work.
>>107531278just pick up a pencil bwo.
>>107528669AI is definitely going to make everyones lives worse, but I cant so anything about it. May as well try to enjoy other people suffering.
>>107528600>Losing in every way except likesSo they have popular support from the people and AI people have support from Israel and wall street.
>>107528669AI in general will be here to stay but LLM shit will explode violently as Agentic AI gets outed as the scam it is and LLMs return to their rightful place: specialized fields where trained models aren't even used by the general public. We're going to go through the Perceptron crash again and its' going to be entirely because dipshits saw a chatbot do slightly better than an IRC bot at pretending to be a human and decided to invest the world's economy into it
>it's da j00si thought /pol/ dieded
>>107528600>NOOOOOO! STOP USING AI! HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO MAKE MONEY IF PEOPLE CAN INSTANTLY GENERATE FAT FURRY SCAT!lollmaothe only people who AI hurts are people with utter bullshit jobs
>>107528773The thing is: you probalby have ads disabled.Normalfags are being inundated with it, and they fucking hate it. Because what they are getting is the worst kind of it that can be made on Ranjeesh's i386, and it looks like shit and is literally everywhere.But you and I block ads so we're insulated from it. Turn off ublock at some point and you'll see why Normalfags hate it.
>>107531364>the only people who AI hurts are people with utter bullshit jobsmost jobs are bullshit and most managers only care if they get 80% of any job done. patreon scam artists suck, but I don't want every single thing becoming AI because it's 99% cheaper.
What's wrong? Scared of a pencil???
>>107531346AI people only need each other to survive, that's what the grift is about: The idea that agentic AI will eventually supplant people, so they can keep everyone's wages for themselves. This is retarded thinking, but as you can tell: Agentic AI supporters are all retards and brownies, but I repeat myself.
>>107531358High-level eurojews think that LLMs will manifest their messiah. Very stupid and silly shit.
>>107531278>Their models will stagnate with no new inputs. It's MUCH more grim than that, it only takes 0.001% of any training set to poison an AI model during traininghttps://futurism.com/training-data-ai-misinformation-compromisedThat means at some point, once it becomes sufficiently difficult to tell AI apart from real human artistry or real human artistry becomes massively outnumbered by AI work, no new models can be reliably trained. All of them will get poisoned by their own dogfood. https://futurism.com/training-data-ai-misinformation-compromised
>>107528669Ah yes, the contrarian centrist. An utterly worthless and disingenuous "position".
>>107528600how can we not?generative AI is a net negative for humanity and this is why they're pushing so incredibly hard instead of solving cancers and creating adamantium...
>>107530478That's just moving goalposts. How is inputting parameters into a 3D modeling software different than inputting parameters into an AI image generator? The AI model was still created from human input. You're subconsciously associating effort with art even if you deny it consciously.
anti-AI are retards who can't figure out how to adapt. They know they are losing too which is the best part.
>>107531409It's a net negative for humanity but a net positive for shareholders.Chevrolet vs Ford has been a disaster for the human race.
>>107531382>they're trying to make their own A.I Satanthat shouldn't sound as cool as it is.
>>107531425>How is inputting parameters into a 3D modeling software different than inputting parameters into an AI image generator? I love jeets on /g/, they're so fucking contrarian and stupid >How is cooking for myself different from buying burgers from Mcdonalds? They're both made by humans.
>>107531451Put the fries in the bag, lil pup
>>107531457Jeets like you will be killing each other in the streets when the one job LLMs are good at, stalling people on tech support, eats your country alive lmao Meanwhile I shorted NVDA today and made more than you'll see in your entire life.
>>107531498>shorting NVDA this early when they're about to get pumpedOh you're retarded retarded
>>107531534TWO WEEKS!!!! I already sold today and all indicators predict recession in 2026. So good luck eating your own poo, Rahjeet.https://www.marketwatch.com/story/tech-slides-as-oracle-broadcom-revive-ai-bubble-concerns-tech-roundup-f8bb2524
>>107528600I'm pro ai but anti slop. If you can't hide the fact that you used AI and try to make something with AI pretending it to be genuine you are automatically s subhuman to me. even AI requires effort
>>107531393>https://futurism.com/training-data-ai-misinformation-compromisedI don't see what the big deal being made in this article is. They deliberately trained a model wrong as a joke, and got upset when it gave wrong answers. Anyone making a model worth a damn puts effort into ensuring the integrity of their datasets.
>>107531278>Their models will stagnate with no new inputsNo. Models continue to get better and more efficient, "artists" already provided all the training data that will ever be needed.
>>107529609>>107528669this, we just gotta cope about it while the world burns.
>>107531773>I don't see what the big deal being made in this article is. They deliberately trained a model wrong as a joke, and got upset when it gave wrong answersAnon, the big deal is how LITTLE wrong training data it takes to poison an entire model. All of the major agentic AI models are trained on general data from the internet. What happens when that data starts coming from other AI models that are also wrong? If .001% of that data is incorrect or poisoned, that's the end of your model, and we're rapidly approaching the tipping point where there's more AI generated data than human generated data. For reference, .001 is one out of 1000. Picture if, out of 1000 articles being scraped for AI training, one of them is poisoned or unusable. That has significant implications to the whole model, and almost all of these models are being trained through mass scraping.
ayy... I, don't care haha
e=mc^2+AI
>>107531824Models might advance technologically, but they will stagnate artistically, with no new human creation coming in.
>>107531983Sir you are genius!
>>107532048For one-shot prompting, perhaps. IMO, the artistic possibilities with 1.5/SDXL are far from exhausted. At some point there is no need for additional training data, just better interfaces to use the models. If it comes to pass that all new visual art is locked behind some kind of DRM, AI art will diverge rather than stagnate.And there will undoubtedly be scab artists who produce novel content to keep the machine fed.
