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>Be IBM
>develop PPC G4
>shits all over the Pentium 4 at a lower clock speed and smaller die size
>get Steve fucking Jobs up on stage
>he talks about how having a long pipeline is a problem and that the G4 is much more efficient
>start to develop next-gen PPC 970/G5
>Decide you're going to step on the same rake Intel did
>extremely long pipeline, terrible branch predictor, cannot reach clock speed targets and hot as the sun
>such a disaster it kills PPC client chips forever
What was the idea here exactly?
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>>107534165
iTODDLERS BTFO
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>>107534165
The smartest move Apple did was go to x64. The stupidest what to leave it.
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>>107535448
Articulate your claim, coalberg
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>>107535469
anyone with a functioning brain can see the reality of ARMshit that relies entirely on hardware accelerators to cheat at very specific applebench """"""""""tests"""""""
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>>107535627
>hardware accelerators
using hardware accelerators is not cheating, it's the entire reason you're able to write your shitposts, so is arm
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>>107535627
>hardware accelerator is le bad
lol, lmao even
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>>107535786
street shit harder currynigger
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>>107535874
Sperg out all you want but it's not up to you to decide, or me. Today the current appers to be very much in the direction of arm and you will assimilate or stay on your sweltering 2030 shitbook forever ever
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>>107535424
dumb satania poster
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>>107534165
IBM developed PowerPC based on the current Power gen, Apple had very little say in it's development. IBM was aiming for the server market purely with 5, and this screwed Apple who couldn't use the chip even in it's PowerPC form for laptops, hence why they went for Intel.
IBM just had different business goals and it did not involve Apple. Mind you, Apple's only real money generator at the time was the ipod, they were still recovering from being in the shitter for years. Not like they had the resources to pay IBM for custom chip designs, PowerPC was purely just off the shelf.
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>>107535627
>hardware accelerators
MMX, SSE, AVX, AVX2, AVX512 etc etc etc
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>>107535874
>muh hardware accelerators bad
>kvaazar uses x86_64 hardware accelerators
lmao dumb jeet
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>>107534165
Apple never used the Pentium 4 you retard, they used Core, which it self was P3 derivative.
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>>107537492
I didn't say they did, the point was Apple mocked the P4 for its flawed design, only for IBM to turn around and do the exact same thing
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>>107535448
>The stupidest what to leave it.
If you actually used arm macs and mac prior you would know that arm switch was amazing
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>>107537613
If you actually used Linux you'd know that it's irrelevant what Apple uses to run this pile of shit operating system
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>>107537732
So you haven't used it. Got it.
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>>107537744
I have but let's pretend I haven't so that I can read more of your fanboy seething
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>>107534165
So
>defeat the pentium 4 because it's a retarded long bipeline meme made to run at 15Ghz but physics get in the way
>decides it's a good idea to copy the mistake pentium 4 did
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>>107537390
there's a large difference between using a baked in silicon solution to an arbitrary problem.. and doing more things in 1 clock cycle.
regardless more perf is better, so both of you are retarded.
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>>107537390
>>107537430
CPU instructions aren't hardware accelerators. Do you even know what AVX does?
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>>107535769
>>107535924
Apple puts one SME core per chip, just so they can win in single-core benchmarks. Because of this, their multi-core SME performance is basically no better than single-core.
Why would they do this if not to game benchmarks?
>>107537390
These are all per-core, unlike Apple's Special benchMark Execution units. Their performance grows linearly with the number of threads used, and because of this, their performance ceiling is MUCH higher.
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>>107535448
>x64. The stupidest what to leave it.
This has to be in the top 10 dumbest /g/ takes I've ever read. Surely you're baiting.
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>>107537775
It not about fanboism. I used MacBooks from work updated every 2 years. Switch from intel to arm was amazing. It is fast, silent and powerful. I'm not sure why you don't like it.
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>>107537935
Apple ARM processors have four execution units capable of SIMD processing while consumer Intel processors only have three.
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Apple ARM processors have ONE execution unit capable of SME processing shared between ALL cores in a cluster.
https://github.com/tzakharko/m4-sme-exploration/blob/main/reports/01-sme-overview.md
The SIMD execution units you refer to are for NEON, and only support 128-bit vectors (lmao) compared to AVX2 which supports 256-bit. So Intel's three AVX units are equivalent to 6 of Applel's. AMD's chips support AVX-512, so one unit of those are equivalent to four of Apple's and Zen5 has two capable of doing FMAs, and four capable of integer math.
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>>107538229
NEON is faster than AVX
>per cpu cluster
M4 has 2 cpu clusters
M4 Pro has 3 cpu clusters
M4 Max has 5 cpu clusters
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>>107538301
>NEON is faster than AVX
Lmao
NEON on the M5 big core is 4x128b.
AVX2 on Arrow Lake is 2x256b for floating point, 4x256b for integer/bitwise math, and AVX-512 on Zen5 is 2x512b for floating point and 4x512b for integer/bitwise.
NEON is in no way comparable.
>M4 Max has 5 cpu clusters
9950X has 16 cores, all capable of AVX-512.



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