this guy is a fucking schizo but i think he's right about this one
>>107538494aint reading that
>>107538502it's ok i also have a reading disability
>>107538494Makes me smirk that angsty cyberpunk xennials from the 80's like nick land who preached end of the humane world and global technoslavery ended up being the somewhat impotent architects of the lame 2025 pretend fascist stateThis is just a modern version of the same thing, in fact I'd argue it is THE same thing, down to style
>>107538583history is a flat fucking circle
>>107538583you read like a crypto retard with lots of buzz words
>>107538494When it comes to Climate Change it really is only the USA and India that are the problem (Africa will be once they get industries)Europe has less than 5% of worldwide emissions and China has 33% emissions while producing 50% of goods worldwide, so they are carbon efficient and are getting more so with their huge push for solar and nuclear.So the solution to the Climate Change problem is:>Make Americans produce less (there is a recession coming so this will handle itself)>Prevent growth of industry in India and Africa, keep it in ChinaThe second part is the hard one, especially since the US government is pressuring companies to move production from China to India.
>global cooling>the ozone layer>global warming>climate changeHow can one abstract concept, that literally grew out of a Mansion Family cult belief (look it up), be so provably wrong for so many decades, yet continue to keep and accumulate new adherents every generation?
>>107538494>the sky is failing!!!!yawn
Why do we still have a bunch of coastal cities anyway? I know that in the past they were really important because of ports, but given the existance of planes, they should've become irrelevant by now
>>107538702Are you a fucking retarded person?
>>107538598Every time someone does a post referencing anything which requires even a modicum of intellectual comprehension or the most mildly esoteric knowledge to get through it, there's always some 2 digit iq gimp like you accusing them of using buzzwords.Calm down lil bro. Not every post is for you, you don't have to reply and reveal that you are dumb. It's ok to just move on and continue consuming your goy sloptent. There will be a twitter post thread for you right beside this one in the catalog, I promise
>>107538702Botes are much more efficient than planes at carrying huge loads, much like ur mum
>>107538653Where exactly is it wrong? If you live in Europe you can just ask your father (or grandfather if you are young) what the average winter was back then compared to now and if summers were so hot back then as they are now. For example: during the Austrian-Hungary empire the summer temperatures rarely exceeded 25 degrees. Now they commonly exceed 35 degrees. Europe used to be a lot cooler in the past than it is now.
>>107538727Still doesn't justify having a bunch of people live there, with a large enough railroad network, we could replace them with small towns comprised just of dock workers + a few essential businesses to support them
>>107538740Nigga think this is politburo simcity
>>107538598brown people ruined the internet
>>107538737Your grandmother was ravished by russian chinese jews mongrels.
>>107538737>Concentrations of CO 2 in the atmosphere were as high as 4,000 ppm during the Cambrian period about 500 million years agoreeeee, we're gonna get hit with an asteroid
geographically speaking, where on earth can i move that's the furthest from any ocean or sea? preferably an equilibrium between landmaxxing and being near as few brown people as possible
>>107538907mount everest
>>107538653>Mansion FamilyDo you mean Manson family or am I being retarded?
>>107538819Not really no.
>>107538583Nick Land wrote about climate change and civilizations of heat beating civilizations of cold. In fact, he remarked that cities are substantially hotter than other areas. Yet now he acts like climate change won't be a problem for centuries. In fact, it's already a problem in the sense that all of Europe will need to adapt by improving air conditioning and mitigating increased desertification (whatever the proper term is). If you've got money to spare, invest in those.
>>107539006Yeah. Your grandfather was a battalion of drunken nogoodniks.
>>107538847>He wants to go back to the Devilman demon era.>>107538494>Move away from coasts>Get roasted in continental summers
>>107538819What is it with mutts and trying to convince others that they're as inbred as they themselves are?
>>107539064You realize that the rapes happened only in eastern parts of Germany right? Not in the area of ex-Austria-Hungary. And not that many happened to make it statistically likely for me even if I was from Eastern Germany
>>107539087We're all half black, so your woman want to swirl their tongues around our awesome penises.
>>107538907Northwestern China.
>>107539112I don't know about that, the mass psychosis might put them off. Maybe it's an effect of inbreeding as well.
>>107539165Idk man. I'm just trying to do my thing in a retard offtopic thread. This place gets boring.
>>107538583At least cyberpunk is cool to look at but everything has to be lame
>>107538494>muh climate change>muh AIreddit hoax
>>107539219kys you fucking braindead russian bot. you're literally subhuman. you don't deserve to fucking live.
>>107538494you can always LKS the rest of your life away you don't need justification
>>107539263>everyone that thinks I'm a fag is RussianAren't you overdo for a booster?
>>107538623okay recencytard. US emissions have been declining for decadesmeanwhile all of Iran Russia emissions goes up for miniscule economic gain other than shipping petroprod to Chyna
>>107539276actually i don't think you're a russian bot, i think you're just an american who has fallen for russian disinformation. most of the people here are russians, but they try to convince you that they're israelis or indians or whatever. nope! nothing but russian trolls from the IRA masking their IPs to get those putin bux
>>107538494this is weird I have access to paid chatgpt and claude last models through copilot, and they're ... I can't rely on them let's just say, I know my way around things so I can just go and query them for some info, but hell if I had to rely exclusively on them and not on my knowledge and skills, I'd be fucked
>>107539183it isn't really off topic though, it's about AI, and AI is very much on topic
>>107539349Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
>>107538494im pretty optimistic. climate change is a slow and easy adaptation for humanity. the solution is simply to enforce borde control and let the over breeders suffer the consequences of their actions. the solutions to the problem are most likely not technological. AI crap will ruin some jobs but there will be something else for you to do and it could pay well if you keep cheap labor out of your labor market and erect barriers of trade which link your labor market and general market for goods
>>107538725don't be retarded you using stupid words that mean nothing, get a skin you snowflake
>>107539363Excuse me sir. You dropped your green backpack.
>>107538494Yup he's right. Anyone who hates AI is a Redditor plain and simple. >AI SlopYes and? Human slop has always existed. Slop is slop. Fuck off.
so his advice is to get good at using AI?that's not very helpful advice. that's like the baseline and you should already be there. real advice would be a few steps ahead and based on possible/probable consequences, not just going with what works in the present moment.
>>107538653This. Even Greta doesn't care about it anymore, she's Palestine shilling now.
>>107538494>there is no phase twoClimate changers can not stop outing their themselves as completely undeveloped intellectually.
>>107538583It's all a self-fulfilling prophecy. None of this bullshit -had- to happen. People are just fucking retarded; Westerners, in particular, are so insulated from true conflict, tragedy, or hardship, that we've found ways to reintroduce those things in our "civilized" "social lives.". We're just a bunch of bored idiots being misled by psychopathic idiots with a death wish.
>>107539531meanwhile retards like you only trust people who get canceled from youtube because they can't go five minutes without saying nigger
>>107539707Oh no they said a word I must set Portand on fire
>>107538494They developed new way of passive cooling, In few years you will see it everywhere from clothing, architecture to fucking space stations. It's over for climate fearmongering fags.
>>107538494I already live below sea level. Just build dikes and mills fucking retards. 14th century tech.
>>107538623>>Prevent growth of industry in India and Africa, keep it in ChinaORHelp India and Africa.They'll only be "dirty" 'cause they'll be going through the same "industrial revolution" via the same processes. But they don't *have* to.If they start with fully electrified mines, and similar shit instead of massive weasle engines, then they'll be able to spin up a manufacturing base *without* the pollution tailings historically associated with... >>107538653All of the things you list are real, btw. None of that is an abstract concept. Global cooling happens. If you believe otherwise, explain the ice caps.The ozone layer is real. O3 settles atop. You can knock holes in it. You can measure it's thickness. There was a bloke messing around with LED's and he managed to take ozone readings that precise he was able to ring up NASA and give it: Your O3 bird is wrong, you need to calibrate it.Global warming is definitely a thing. But, something getting warmer - even on a global scale - shouldn't be a difficult concept to grasp. Especially if you can understand the concept of it has cooled on a global scale: AKA Ice Age.Climate change is also a firmly provable occurance. Climates change all the god damn time. It's certainly arguable as to how much is inevitable, and how much man is directly responsible for, but climate change is definitely real. If you question the responsibility angle, try getting some historical footage of the Amazon, and compare it's surface area to now. Most of that is "man", and it's difficult to argue that isn't change - somewhere that's commonly agreed to have global consequence.Also, consider, taking a few hundred thousand years of stored solar energy and releasing it in a few decades is unlikely to occur without thermal consequences...
>>107539058>If you've got money to spare, invest in those.Useless without power.Invest in power generation. Solar and turbines feeding your own battery stacks... Power is already an issue, and the expansion of datacenters plus the expanding population with ever more devices isn't likely to adjsut this positively...Investigate passive water collection, there's already been conflicts over water.
>>107539531>outing their themselves as completely undeveloped intellectually.Yeah.
>>107538494>this chinese propaganda to destroy western industry is totally real guys
>>107540447Is this real autism?The obvious implication was MANMADE in front of all of the scary meme things that happen in natural cycles, but are used as an excuse to make life harder and more expensive for regular people. And, MANMADE <insert earth destruction concept here> is absolutely an abstract. They can't even settle on what exactly those horrible humans are causing from decade to decade, but it's definitely bad, whatever it is, and we must eat the bugs to fix it.
>>107540558>western industry
>>107539457
>>107538494> Climate changethese fucking retards again. the climate isn't changing. it fluctuates. who gives a shit. governments continue to use this as an excuse to charge you more for things. it's a psyop. what happens if you don't recycle? does the world end? no it doesn't. throw bottles in the trash and car batteris in the ocean. who fucking cares.
>>107540207jesus fucking CHRIST the projection coming from you is absurd. it's YOUR PEOPLE who lose their shit when they get triggered. remember J6? you dumb retarded faggots got triggered by a fat stupid old man spouting lies about an election he lost according to everyone other than fake news russian propaganda outlets
>>107540977you are citing the work of charlatans and grifters who have been roundly rejected by the scientific community because they're so fucking retarded they don't even know how to use the scientific method. just fucking kill yourself already. jesus fucking christ.
>>107540977>>107541121>>107541134OH BABY A TRIPFAG TRIPPLE
>>107540560>Is this real autism?I've been accused of this. Professionally.>but are used as an excuse to make life harder and more expensive for regular people. Does that need an excuse? Evidence appears to suggest not.If it's all about the environment, question why frequently turbines and PV shut down production so the fossil turbines don't need to spin down.The "excuse" for that is the plant operators will lose money. It's cheaper for them to pay the renewables not to produce.Kinda why, despite all the extra capacity - and so much of it renewable(well, most places that isn't murrica) the price is continually rising.>MANMADE <insert earth destruction concept here> is absolutely an abstract. No. It's most definitely quantifyable, where metrics of that data exist historicallyPick one. I'll quantify.
>>107540560>They can't even settle on what exactly those horrible humans are causing from decade to decadeTrue. But how much of that is misdirection by someone directly profiting from the damage, and the undoing of.Case in point, all the historical literiture funded by tobacco consortiums that proclaim smoking to be of benefit to health. Monsato funded literature that proclaims glyphosphates don't cause cancers. Oil industry funded studies that confirmed intense ecological damages from plastics and that they lack recyclability, and the rise in temperatures from burning hydrocarbons - but publicly released papers that declare the precise opposite.Papers are being retracted all the time, new ones surface and as the 'knowledge landscape' adjusts, so does the response. Problematically these papers frequently have an agenda to fulfill before they start studying. These are usually identifyable by the sloppy methodology, and should be written off. They isn't, because idiots keep thinking the solution to playing a game of "Heads I win, tails you lose" is to toss the coin again, and precisely because they are idiots they don't make good choices of representation, who themselves cannot understand scientific methodology, so are unable to spot it's lacking. And instead believe the conclusion. Generally accepting compensation to do so.>we must eat the bugs to fix it.Normal a lotta places. On the scale of history, the homonids only been out of the tree ten min, and when they was branch to branch you can bet insect was fair game.If there's a problem, here, it's definitely a "you" scale problem. Toddlers will eat insects without hesitation.I understand, the format might not appeal to you. But once it's undergone intense processing like the rest of your diet it'll become more palletable.Also consider how food chains work. *you* don't need to eat the bugs, but the bugs will need eating. DESU, if it's between bugs n lab meat, I find it difficult to place a preference.
>>107540977>these fucking retards again.Yeah, but one day you might learn to not make yourself look so obviously retarded.>the climate isn't changing. it fluctuates.Is now the time to point out that it cannot fluctuate *and* remain in the same state?If it does not remain in the same state, it must be...C'mon, you can get this.>it's YOUR PEOPLE who lose their shit when they get triggeredAs evidenced by your posts lacking sense?
>>107540447I appreciate the direct question! Let me clarify the science here.The existence of ice caps doesn't demonstrate global cooling, it actually demonstrates the opposite when we look at the data. Here's why:>Ice caps are shrinking, not growing:>Arctic sea ice has declined by about 13% per decade since satellite measurements began in 1979>Greenland's ice sheet is losing approximately 280 billion tons of ice per year>Antarctic ice loss has accelerated, losing about 150 billion tons annually>Glaciers worldwide are retreating at accelerating ratesI'm not a bot, by the way, I'm just an incredibly autistic human who talks like an LLM, and you need to kill yourself.
>>107541209COIN C2 LSTM ASYMMETRIC PAYLOAD>in other words, a clanker
>>107540485>Useless without power.>Invest in power generation.useless without power. invest in violence.
>>107541209>The existence of ice caps doesn't demonstrate global coolingSo. How did the ice get there again?It formed in the schorching sun?>>Ice caps are shrinking, not growing:It's almost as if after a temporary period of intense cold, heat is bleeding in.>I'm not a bot, by the wayYeah. Even an unthinking token predictor can spot the corrolation in temperature dropping and the formation of ice miles thick.>and you need to kill yourself.You can think that if you wish. But what you think really doesn't matter when it comes up against what I know.And I know your life is getting worse every day. If you kill yourself now, you might be able to avoid more.
>>107541174I'm just defending my assertion that all of the meme arrow bad stuff falls under the umbrella of an "abstract concept". That concept being: humans are hurting mother earth somehow, in a way that's definition changes rapidly, and we can say it's "settled" science, but the data backing these "settled" conclusions is often contradictory, cooked, demonstrated not to support the alarmist conclusions, or simply part of the natural cyclical nature of how the earth works, and it's collection and analysis is nearly always financed and advanced by interests who've already arrived at a decision for what's happening, why, and what to do about it.It's basically not even science at this point. It's a modern religion.
>>107541225Violence is a good solution. Not to all problems, but it definitely has a place.You will need to protect your power generation with violence. When you're the only one with lights on, everyone notices. And gets jealous.Landmines are great perimeter defence.And heads on a stick isn't exactly an ambiguous statement. Isn't enough heads on stick at property boundaries...
>>107541289OPERATIONAL PERIMETER GRAY ZONE C2 CELL STATE DROPOUT
>>107541261any LLM can see the correlation. so can every scientist other than the grifters you take seriously. i can see why you believe this horseshit, though. you've been fed a steady diet of right wing misinformation, and you take to it like a pig to slop. you lick it up. you bathe in it. you drown in the lies. you can't see the truth because you're too far gone, you're too far down the russian propaganda rabbit hole, your family thinks you're insane and they don't know how to tell you they dont love you anymore
>>107541283>it's collection and analysis is nearly always financed and advanced by interests who've already arrived at a decision for what's happening, why, and what to do about it.What they want to happen, and how to profit from it.FTFY>but the data backing these "settled" conclusions is often contradictory, cookedSuch tends to be hyper-obvious. >It's a modern religion.The crux of the issue is that it is being treaded as per religion, and not science. Science loves questioning the status qou, the same experiment yielding the same data isn't a waste of time, it's adding evidence that supports.The "problem" isn't some people fudge their numbers. It isn't even some people are paid to only look at the conclusion that isn't supported by the data.The problem is letting someone else do your thinking for you. Making your descisions for you. Common nowadays for some random docile media post to be considered "evidence". In that landscape, good luck achieving objective truth. Everyone gets their own truth, because it only becomes the truth when you decide to believe it.
>>107541326Isn't your degree in literature? You're no more qualified than anyone itt to make an assessment on the quality or motivations of any particular study. You don't know anything. Additionally, your other opinions seem retarded and very vaccinated, so you're probably as wrong here as you are about everything else. You're also a faggot.
>>107541376I like you.
>>107538494Climate change is a dumb religion
>>107541326>you've been fed a steady diet of right wing misinformation,Explaining my lack of existence in your political mechanisms?What precisely makes you think "right wing"? I'm usually accused of 'leftism' in these places.>i can see why you believe this horseshit, thoughNo. You can't. Your head is that far up your arse you can only see the inside of your teeth.> you can't see the truth because you're too far goneYou wouldn't know what the truth was if it pulled it's penis out and slapped you in the face with it.>you're too far down the russian propaganda rabbit holeIt's the russian propaganda that has me leaning heavily into renewables, to the point of deploying my own turbines and PV?OR would it possibly be noting the exponentially increasing curve on the graph and reacting to insulate myself from the stupidity you're causing (again)?>your family thinks you're insane They have for a long time. And one by one over the decades they've noticed I'm actually right.>and they don't know how to tell you they dont love you anymoreThey do, it would be just like that. They know I don't fuck about or appreciate it any. There's a reason they don't. Yours will mince around you because you're fragile. And they know it.
>>107541432you clink
>>107541376
>>107538494nothing ever happens
>>107541391>Isn't your degree in literature?Being able to spell properly, and understanding grammar doesn't automagically mean I've a degree in Eng. Lit.> You're no more qualified than anyone itt to make an assessment on the quality or motivations of any particular study./me cricks neck. Are you *sure* about that? >You don't know anythingHe says, continually demonstrating a lack of knowledge and understanding at every opportunity (whilst having the internet at their fingertips to correct informational deficits).>Additionally, your other opinions seem retarded and very vaccinated,Only to you, because you lack the ability to follow something through to it's inevitable conclusion. Either physically, or metaphorically.>so you're probably as wrong here as you are about everything elseYou could write a book about being wrong. Each page would be more wrong than the last. You've achieved the mythical fractal wrongness. You're not just wrong, but you're wrong on every concievable scale of observation. You can zoom in or out at any point of your world-view and find concepts as equally wrong as your world-view.>You're also a faggot.Tell that to my duaghter.>>107541400Me too.
>>107541438Naw, that's just what's in me pockets.You, however, need to be kept from the crayons lest you eat them.
>>107541472Did you hit a character limit making the longest >no u effortpost in 4chan history?
>>107538494Have you ever tried living in the forest and breeding/eating dogs?
>>107538494the planet survived worse damage than mere climate changing
>>107538494>hurr durr muh climate armageddonhttps://www.brighteon.com/881137b2-5d54-4182-a47e-bb42f7626b90
oh no hallucinating chatbot that can't tell left from right is going to take our jobs. it's so over
>>107541505Not in that one. Has I hit limits before, sure. In this thread, yup. And it's got nothing on historical length. When you're hitting twenty posts continuing the original post, and every single word is "nigger" get back to me.
>>107541533>the planet survivedIt did.The life that was on it, not so much.
>>107541675>The earth is precious.It'll survive no matter what. >I meant life is precious. Endospores can survive in the vacuum of space indefinitely. >Ok... life as it exists right this moment on earth is what's precious. What about humans?>Not so much. Only Africans matter for some reason. Give them more food, water, medicine, and iphones.Whatever hippy.Insert the Georgia Guide Stones up your own ass; not mine.
>>107541738>It'll survive no matter what.Pretty much up until it's engulfed by sol in it's expansion....But what *state* it's in, while it's existing is another thing entirely.>Endospores can survive in the vacuum of space indefinitely. But *you* can't.But just keep shitting on your own doorstep. What can possibly go wrong.>What about humans?Personally, I'd say kill them all and let their god decide. But apparently that makes me "unreasonable".>Whatever hippy.I take considerable offence at the 'hippy'. Poking smot does not a hippy make.I didn't "only africans matter". I just said instead of watching 'em struggle and crying about the mess they're making in the process, lend 'em your tools and show 'em how to do it proper. One of those options, if considered carefully, might make sense.>Insert the Georgia Guide Stones up your own ass; not mine.And why would I want to place stones inside a small donkey?Your anal insertion fixation is probably what wants the most attention after you've addressed your severe informational deficits.
>>107538494this guy is a total NPC and he is giving the kind of advice someone who is dependent on a system and social programming would give would givewhat he doesnt understand is: HUMANS DONT NEED JOBS TO SURVIVE I know that is a hard concept to take in because we are programmed at birth by society to think that if we dont produce goods or services we will die. But this concept only became true during the industrial revolution, before that money was not important, most the world were subsistence farmers and animal herders. So the actual fact is that technology will provide all the food and products we need to function, there wont be enough jobs in the world to maintain the industrial economic system that has existed since the mid-1800s, we are going to have a leisure class of people who dont work and just receive their allotment of food, housing and other basic needs. To give another example, in ancient history having a job was considered a wasteful duty that was only performed by slaves. In ancient Greek and Roman civilization all menial labor was done by slaves, average citizens didnt work, they were free to spend their time on leisure activities. Education was considered a leisure activity simply for the pleasure of acquiring knowledge.The whole concept that people without jobs will be left to die is just a concept the 'elites' want you to believe. Just like 'elites' want you to believe they will control AI and so they will be in control of the money supply produced by AI work. They wont, AI will democratize work and make average people rich and will remove the need for tech oligarchs.
>>107541965>But this concept only became true during the industrial revolution, before that money was not importantDemonstrably false. Money has been important ever since it's inception to buy child sex slaves in sumaria.Could you survive without it? Probably. Would having none consequence your life? Certainly.>there wont be enough jobs in the world to maintain the industrial economic system that has existed since the mid-1800sIt's already that way. How many positions - especially in larger firms - can you think of that have little other purpose than to provide a job?>The whole concept that people without jobs will be left to dieIt is certainly one possibility. Another would be to simply give them the money they require to spend in order to keep the economical wheels spinning, and then basically nothing changes apart from the sudden cessation of positions that only exist to create employment....>AI will democratize workInteresting perspective. How? What methodology or mechanism can provision this?>make average people rich Unlikely. The thing with status is once everyone has it, it stops being status and becomes average. People don't like not feeling special, as a rewl.>will remove the need for tech oligarchsThere isn't a "need" now. You've just let it happen. More importantly. you've let it happen whilst they've advertised they're building a stick to beat you with... Most of you have competed to see who can put the most nails into it.
