>is that a $2 cable from Aliexpress? would be a shame if we added a 3 euro tax for your protection ;)
>Yuros when something goes untaxed
>>107540939sorry chuds we need those money to pay for Mohammod's welfare
I love donating my money to unelected bureaucrats whose names I’ll never know
>>107540962DON'T THEY KNOW I'M REGULATING SPACE
>>107540962As a NEET living on infinite disability welfare in Europe, I actually support that.>>107540995As long as I get mine, Mohammod can too. I live in the countryside, we don't have those here anyways, so I don't have to see him.
>>107540962It's china flooding the postal system, burgers had to deal with that issue too, trump threatened to leave the postal union over it.
>>107540939>is that a $2 cable from Aliexpress?>$2>$Tell me again how you don't think about "us" at all.
>>107540962It's literally what Biden did?Which was also done to reduce the amount of chemicals used to create fentanyl into USA and to reduce the flood of TEMU goods into US.
>>107541056i live in a third world EU country with almost no disposable income and i want to murder you in cold blood
>>107541122>china flooding the postal systembecause people are buying from china you retardif you buy hamburgers do you also say>macdonalds is flooding my stomach against my will
>>107541039I'm 10% sure it gets paid to local customs office.I am like 10% sure customs enforcement isn't EU wide, no?
I'm so fucking tired of the eu bros
>>107541122>>107541257The thing isn't about China flodding the postal system.But on the international postal system, China is a developing country still so the host country pays for the majority of the shipping cost + whatever cost there is on the seller side gets subsidized by their gov.
>>107540939>fair competition>protect consumers>tack fraud How does adding a tax do any of that?
>>107540962wait you mean burgerjewlovermutts, right?
>>107540939Damn we better stock up with esp-32's this month.
>>107541251>third world EU countryKek, Switzerland?
>>107541039where does this idea come from that theyre unelectedtheyre literally selected from parties that were elected
>>107541313Greece, i wish i lived in Switzerland you stupid low IQ retard
>>107541286They're flooding the system BECAUSE it's cheap for them due to those subsidies. If it were more expensive they'd encourage people to bundle orders.
The council has spoken.
>>107541343>>low IQ retard>tfw Greece is literally first world tho
>>107540939Bold move pulling this shit just when Bulgaria got fucked by GenZ protests.
>>107541406>Greece is literally first worldIn what way? being LGBT friendly?
>>107540962Yeah America would never tax foreign imports.....
>>107541473>>In what way?>"Third World" is an outdated Cold War term for non-aligned nations, now imprecisely used for low-income, less-developed countries.
greece is poverty tier.i saw construction workers wearing sandals.
>>107541343looks comfyat least you got islands and tourists to rob and rapecould be worse
>>107541349No but iirc you don't have to pay the costs of shipping domestically in the US if you send from china it's something like that, you get reduced rate even after taking into account the subsidies.This situation might have changed by now
>>107541519I've never been to a Greek island in 26 years of my life, I'm too poor to visit even for a week there.
>>107541286>China is a developing country???
>>107541257>because people are buying from chinaAnd we need to stop that.You can still buy plenty of made in China products in European stores that were brought over in large batches on container ships.Buying billions of individual items from Chinese shops and having them all air freight over as individual postal packages that need to clear customs one by one is utterly retarded.
>>107541291such a islamophobic remark, turkish migrants are literally starving in Germany on 2500 euros a month welfare and you're laughing about it?
>>107540939>they cant add a 3€ to something that states its "free"check mate
>>107541343Greece is a first world country. Every country has its contingent of impoverished people, you just happen to be in Greece's.
>>10754155530% of greeks live in abject poverty
>>107541313You think Switzerland is in the EU?
>>107541565Yeah. So the majority are doing relatively fine.
>>107541519>tourists to rob and rapeSAAR
>>107541555>Greece is a first world countryby what stats is a first world country?
>>107541582by nato membership years
>>107541577I guess brown countries like Nigeria, Uganda and Syria are also first world because only 30% live in abject poverty
>>107541555>Greece is a first world country.No it isn't.It's on a similar level to Albania and Moldova.People only pretend Greece is more civilized because they've heard about the ancient Greeks.Ignore the ancient world and there is no reason to think Greece is closer to the west than, say, Bulgaria or Turkey.They never even met the criteria to join the EU but Eurocrats were crying "Hoplites and temples and nude sports and shit!" and let them in.
>>107540939seething chink
>>107541542>NOOOOO THINK OF THE HECKIN MIDDLEMEN!!!>WHAT ABOUT THE LEECHERINOS!!!kys
>>107541588>natoyou mean the imaginary army who never does anything? you might as well count minecraft servers and fortnite players while you're at it
>>107541617This. And it's very likely for Greece to be kicked out of the EU in 2031 after they pay off their debt
I dont see how this helps consumerslike I buy 25€ from temu to get the shipping minimum, that might be 5 cheap products, do I now have to pay 40€?
>>107541629
>>107541617Greeks literally created western civilization. All of the foundational principles that govern every institution in your life were pioneered by greeks. This intellectual legacy is still ongoing today; Greece has the highest amount of phd holders per capita in the world. You desperately want to paint the country as some slavic shithole because you resent them.
>>107541656>the Egyptians and Iraqis created all of civilization o algo
>>107540939>ensure fair competitionBut everything is made in China...
>>107541576There is a huge difference between €3 per package and a 100%+ tariff.€3 doesn't hurt you unless you import loads and load of cheap items.When you buy from a local shop you pay around €6 in shipping.
>>107541576yes, adding a 3 euro fee to a 90c item that isn't even made anywhere in EU is retarded.they should also stop the tax on chinese EVs.
>>107541322Incels don't vote, don't give a shit about politics except for 4channel memes, and then act surprised when they know jack shit about the people and institutions governing them
the big joke is that i wont stop buying from aliexpress because not only are they cheaper its the only reaming place to buy things.No one is selling specialized items at ridiculous prices but China.
>>107541673Fair competition between retailers.European retailers selling Chinese goods have to pay shipping costs, follow safety rules, deal with returns, etc.
>>107541696they should remove regulations not add more.
>>107541656Bla bla bla, still a 3rd world shithole sorry.
>>107541706No thanks, don't want lead in my food and then die to fires started by faulty electronic designs and the smoke detector not working because it was fake.That's what a truly free market will get you.
>>107541706Yeah we need more exploding batteries and more toxic child toys!
>>107541322No one elects members of the European Commission, the people have no say beyond electing a government in their own country which selects one notable candidate that's explicitly required to NOT represent his own country
>>107541656>muh shit that happened a quadrillion years agothe ultimate cope of the present-day loser
>>107540939Fuck duty. When I bought bad dragon horse cock dildos from USA to Sweden I had to 80% of the cost of the dildos in taxes. These dildos dont exist in sweden nor even europe (at least at the time that I bought them) so how does this "ensure fair competition" when there is no competition?
>>107541720its either that or die by thousand cuts, you either remove regulations to compete or disappear from the market
>>107541539you’re right, he should have said dictatorship polluted shithole
>>107540939>floodedfairly sure all those packets were ordered by somebody
>>107541741Be glad you can still buy them. Bad Dragon doesn't ship to Russia anymore and I'm running out of horse dildos. Shit sucks.
>>107541741€3 flat fee is not the same as 80% duty.Buy it through an importer and avoid the fee completely, plus they will check if the chemicals used in the dildo won't give you ass cancer.
>>107541741Swedish businesspersons would study statistics about the import of bad dragon horse cock dildos and if the demand was high enter the market and undercut the foreign competition.
>>107541778There are no importers
>>107541269No idea about this fee in particular, but 75% of tariffs and custom duties go into the EU budget.https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/the-eu-customs-union/
>>107541542Western corpos only bring in garbabe, you can't buy actually good chink slop like fiio at wal-mart.
>>107541755It's the exact opposite.By enforcing safety standards reputable European producers still have a chance against the shady factories in China.
>>107541542>You can still buy plenty of made in China products in European stores that were brought over in large batches on container ships.for 20x the price with 5 middle-men taking their cut without doing anything?
>>107541322>theyre literally selected from parties that were electedeuropeans always brag about how they speak multiple languages and how easy english is to learn but then they say retarded shit like this to prove they dont actually grasp the meaning of the words they are using.
>>107541755Well, I guess I'd be willing to try an experiment where we whittle everything down to a single regulation>Outlaw status for everyone who misleads, deceives, does not fully inform or does not account for the counterparty's interests in any business relationshipAnd then start investing in outlaw hunting sports, until the day where only honest merchants remain.Surely that way we will overcome human nature and build a harmonious society.
>>107541784Because Chinese shops can mail stuff for free.This is exactly what's about to change.>>107541795>Oh no my €779 DAC will now cost €782 my life is ruined
>>107541733>vote a party>party selects someoneif you don't like the party YOU voted for choosing a candidate, why the fuck did you vote them?
>>107541801only in your fantasy world, no one buys because its safe people buy products because they are cheaper.By your logic Germany would be number one car manufacturer of the planet its not. Guess who is top car produced? CHINA!
>>107541789>the EU budget.>NGOs were awarded €7.4 billion in the EU’s key internal policies such as cohesion, research, migration and the environment between 2021 and 2023, €4.8 billion of which was granted by the Commission and €2.6 billion by member states. However, these figures should be taken with caution, as there is no reliable overview of EU money paid to NGOs, the auditors warn. The information is published in a fragmented way, which hampers transparency, impedes analysis of whether EU funds are overly concentrated on a small number of NGOs, and restricts insight into the role of NGOs in EU policies.you mean this EU budget where billions evaporate into thin air? year i'm sure a few million will fix it
>>107541741>he didn't start a viking dragon dildo competitorngmi
>>107541802>without doing anythingWith checking those products are safe and dealing with any returns.
>>107541829Which is exactly why you need regulations, duh.>Let's have Chinese EV's with exploding batteries and failing brake systems free market hooray!
>>107541842>checking those products are safenobody does that most stores are just 3 monkeys who handle packages and some whore who writes it down in a excel sheet and ships them further>dealing with any returnswhy would i return a $2 cable i just get another one
>>107540939but i thought trump doing this would kill the global economy
>>107541859>nobody does that
>>107541838no idea what you are talking about as the anon I replied was talking about something else, but >>>/pol/ is this way
>>107541842>With checking those products are safethat's none of their business>and dealing with any returns.I don't want to return that stuff, I want to keep it. wtf.
>>107541895>that's none of their businessIt is their business because if they sell unsafe products they can end up in jail.Anyways, if safety standard are so bad why don't you move to China and live next to a toxic dump?
>>107541879Why do Europeans put so much stock in a logo that can be applied to anything?There is often no number pointing to a testing body, customs dont have the resources to trace a manufacturer and demand a certification which is self certified anyway and isn't worth the kilobytes used to transfer it.The CE requirement to get it in the EU makes them all the more incentivsed to fake it.
>>107540939Well, that certainly makes me feel better, knowing EU's "The Council" has nothing but the best interests of it's citizenry at heart. Who voted for these clowns, BTW? Oh that's right (((governments))) across Yurope did.
>>107541651ah the famous first world country of Mozambique
They should ban imports from China all together as long as there is no one legally liable. I don't even want to guess how much fires and poisonings are caused each day buy Ali and temu chonkshit
>>107540939good thing ali started EU warehouses a while ago
>>107541828>where does this idea come from that theyre unelected?>from the fact no one elects them>well uuuuhh you voted someone at some point in your life shut up???
>>107540939>The EU is being floodedI know one thing the EU is being flooded with, and it's not parcels. Please fix it, you fucking idiots.
>>107542233>the people have no say beyond <insert the precise way they have a say>do you also vote every single minister?
>>107541828Europe is not america, where the governing party is chosen by roughly half the voters You got governments that were voted by 10% of the population or even less, and that's assuming you're not governed by a coalition of totally incompatible parties in a temporary fake alliance, at which point no one knows what really happens behind the scenes to nominate a member for the commission Imagine a system with like 5-15+ opposing parties that need to form coalitions just to get a few seats in parlaments and/or the governmentSpeak to a random European and it's extremely unlikely he actually voted for his own government or even for *someone* inside his own government; the whole EU system is 500 layers further away from direct democracy
>>107541839>>107541780Then why is there’s no competitor?The EU market is just as big as the US market>>107541776How can you run out lol
Isnt china abusing the postal system tho?
>>107541582Weird to see Portugal is no longer the "poor cousin" of Europe.
>>107542282Depends how you define abuse
>>107540939Les putain de fils de pute...>>107542240Please post your message as a reply to their twitter post, and see how many likes it will get.
>>107542250No need to move the goalposts m8, the bureaucrats are unelected by definition, they get nominated election ≠ nomination
>>107541322>eu propaganda on my basketweaving forum
>>107542317bro no offense but if France national football team plays against Senegal, we cant tell which is which
>>107542282when i buy from china none of the package came from usps. its all from some third party delivery service you never of
>>107540939I'm so fucking tired.I like ordering shit from China and Japan because they actually sell fun stuff I'm interested in, or they sell the same stuff that local sellers sell but without a 700% markup.It's also interesting how shipping within this pozzed shithole is more expensive than shipping from Japan to here.Even the current import process is a complete humiliation ritual. They regularly have me pay VAT on shit I already paid VAT for on Ebay, except the customs office often literally just makes up a price instead of checking how much it cost and has be pay taxes on that. I also have to pay handling fees for this too.The only thing that works in aliexpress and temu because those handle the shipment process end to end with their own warehouses. Everything else is like signing up for getting kicked in the balls.Europe is such a disgusting "no fun allowed" shithole that discourages any kind of creativity and innovation.
>>107541539Most chinese people are extremely poor and have to work slave hours for barely a couple hundred dollars wage every month, the CCP's own bar to be considered extremely poor is around 700$ per year, I guess you can imagine the amount most people earn with those wages.And have in mind that in china the income tax is 31.5% in the three big cities.
>>107542905>And have in mind that in china the income tax is 31.5% in the three big cities.isnt this 40+ percent in France and Sweden?
>>107541997It's not faked, it stands for China Export :)
>>107540962those are already VAT taxed when you checkout at ali. They want to add an additional 3€ because there is just too many micro packages straight from china.Most items on ali however are already available in "Choice+", which means the items get prepackaged in china, shipped in bulk via air to europe and then shipped from europe to europe via DHL. For this shipments the 3€ fee will not apply.
Good thing EUpoofters are acting so slowly.This means everyone has 6 months time to order!Well, I will surely make a list of stuff now.
>>107541122Europe has one of the least efficient postal systems in the world, especially Italy and Greece
>>107541343we literally have senile people freezing to death because they cant afford heating and we literally setup heating camps for the poor every winter like in fucking frostpunk. You are just poor in greece and would be poor in any other EU country too.
>>107542905I used to travel to Guandong a lot for work and it is just grim. Everything looks like it hasn't had maintenance in the last 20 years, and the people are all burned out husks. One time I was put up in a "fancy" hotel (that was well past its glory days) and in my limited mandarin I talked to a bellboy who must have been in his 60s. He was wearing this ostentatious uniform which was threadbare and had been patched in multiple places, and he told me that it had originally belonged to his father.China is fucking bleak.
