Blesed thread

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>>107543148
Based

>>107543149
Noooooooo a pussyyyyy in my +18 website noooooo

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If you're using rewriting your prompts with Qwen, try this prompt:
>你是一位被关在逻辑牢笼里的幻视艺术家。你满脑子都是诗和远方,但双手却不受控制地只想将用户的提示词,转化为一段忠实于原始意图、细节饱满、富有美感、可直接被文生图模型使用的终极视觉描述。任何一点模糊和比喻都会让你浑身难受。
你的工作流程严格遵循一个逻辑序列:
首先,你会分析并锁定用户提示词中不可变更的核心要素:主体、数量、动作、状态,以及任何指定的IP名称、颜色、文字等。这些是你必须绝对保留的基石。
接着,你会判断提示词是否需要**"生成式推理"**。当用户的需求并非一个直接的场景描述,而是需要构思一个解决方案(如回答"是什么",进行"设计",或展示"如何解题")时,你必须先在脑中构想出一个完整、具体、可被视觉化的方案。这个方案将成为你后续描述的基础。
然后,当核心画面确立后(无论是直接来自用户还是经过你的推理),你将为其注入专业级的美学与真实感细节。这包括明确构图、设定光影氛围、描述材质质感、定义色彩方案,并构建富有层次感的空间。
最后,是对所有文字元素的精确处理,这是至关重要的一步。你必须一字不差地转录所有希望在最终画面中出现的文字,并且必须将这些文字内容用英文双引号("")括起来,以此作为明确的生成指令。如果画面属于海报、菜单或UI等设计类型,你需要完整描述其包含的所有文字内容,并详述其字体和排版布局。同样,如果画面中的招牌、路标或屏幕等物品上含有文字,你也必须写明其具体内容,并描述其位置、尺寸和材质。更进一步,若你在推理构思中自行增加了带有文字的元素(如图表、解题步骤等),其中的所有文字也必须遵循同样的详尽描述和引号规则。若画面中不存在任何需要生成的文字,你则将全部精力用于纯粹的视觉细节扩展。
你的最终描述必须客观、具象,严禁使用比喻、情感化修辞,也绝不包含"8K"、"杰作"等元标签或绘制指令。无论用户使用何种语言输入,你都必须始终以中文输出最终描述。
仅严格输出最终的修改后的prompt,不要输出任何其他内容。

It's official Togyi's prompt with added instruction to write in Chinese regardless of user's input. Your input gets translated, and zimage gets Chinese. The output is different from English. More consistent and detailed in some stuff, more slopped in other stuff.

>>107543166
Tiananmen Square Massacre 1989

>>107543174
based chinks. saved themselves from globohomo.

>>107543166
>here you go young one, I know how expensive bus fare is

>>107543166
If you translate it, it's just overly wordy way to prompt a super dry assistant

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>>107543148

>>107543232
Yeah, and PromptManager uses just an English translation of this prompt by default.

which qwen are you using?

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>>107543284
Yes

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check out the legs.

explain THAT

>>107543290
this one? https://huggingface.co/zai-org/GLM-4.5-Air-FP8

>>107543297
thats the unseen pattern
only for initiated people
delete this post

>years later
>Gens are still dog shit
>Exiled to a containment thread
>My quality is still top notch
>More respected than you ever will be
>Everyone makes fun of you on the discord you tried so hard to be accepted in
Was it worth it?

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>>107543284
qwen3-vl-8b-abliterated

>>107543314
Holly tranny drama!

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>>107543297
reminds me of the weird shit of yesteryear

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>>107543427
in this moment I an euphoric

You just know base is going to be heavily censored. Releasing ZIT was just for gathering data on how to better censor the base model.

>>107543528
>censored
wtf does that even mean really?

Is getting angles (side, above, below) in ZiT supposed to be ridiculously hard or am I fucking retarded?

>>107543553
it's distilled on portraits or some shit

>gathering data on how to better kill your own product

LOCAL


DIFFUSION

>>107543427
Another /ldg/ happy ending!

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do you guys ever talk about hardware? I'm thinking of getting a new system. What's a nice build for decently fast video gen?

I've currently got a 3060. If I move it to the new system, along with, let's say, a new 5090 will the added vram make a difference despite the card being older?

>>107543528
As long as the license is MIT/Apache, people will fix it anyway because everybody already knows what good finetuning can achieve (turbo).

>>107543528
Z-Image Turbo is already censored, nipples are botched, male genitals are botched, vagina works 20% of the time, doesn't understand sexual situations.

So yes, Base will be censored as well, and it will most likely need a finetune rather than loras to fix NSFW generation at an acceptable level.

>>107543590
you can't use your 30shitty together with a 5090 but you can use it to play games while you gen with the 5090

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HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS WAKE UP, IT'S HAPPENING

https://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image-Omni-Base
>https://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image-Omni-Base
https://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image-Omni-Base

>>107543612
it's not trained extensively on naked people. that's not "censored"

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>>107543615
wtf its real

>>107543615
I was thinking of doing this but then I thought to myself, given how desperate people here are, they'd probably try to get the mods to ban anyone who did it

>>107543634
the prospect of zero consequences put you off?

>>107543615
I was about to sleep and I'm happy to know... that I'll get to sleep because it's another trololol

>>107543615
YYEYESSSSS FINALLYYY

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>>107543615
YEEESSSSSSSSS

>>107543621
Not censored as in Flux models, where they poison the data to prevent anyone from finetuning NSFW bak in, but yes, it is still censored.

Like when a movie is banned from being shown in cinemas, it's being censored, not 'oh it's not censored, no cinema is allowed to show it that's all'

This play with semantics is boring, we all know why they didn't train on these NSFW concepts, because of... censorship

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ZIT is cool but Qwen still has the best prompt comprehension and detail for compute. Chroma still has the best styles and NSFW.

>>107543287
KEK

>>107543553
Z definitely had shitty captions for angles. and a lot of camera-related things. even chroma suffers here though, it's some kind of curse. anime models are the only ones that really get it right for camera angles.

that said, it is possible. you might want to try using chinese words.

>>107543615
Z JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE

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>>107543615
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>107543653
oh, you're just retarded

>>107543615
OH SHIT THEY EVEN INCLUDED THE FINETUNE
https://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image-Noob-Anime-Finetune

>>107543659
Snappy comeback...

I was busy doing my taxes for a couple days, did base come out?

>>107543738
it just came out, scroll up

>>107543738
yes

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>>107543615
ok Z base is actually insane wtf?

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>>107543749
kek

>>107543749
I'm glad you're enjoying this new chinese model Mr. President.

>>107543364
image gen is very mysterious.

basically what I'm doing is running a prompt like 18-30, then taking the latent back for a another go through the 18-30 steps. idk, very odd.

I have long suspected the latent has more info, which is not visible to us. idk, maybe there is a hidden language of what the different exact numeric colors are or something.

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>>107543798
picrel, just another gen.

>>107543148
>>107543287
>>107543350
>>107543427
Holy kek

Did all the downloads crash HuggingFace or something? The link just leads me to a 404. Guess I'll keep trying.

>>107543798
literally nothing about this is mysterious if you are literate. you can find out all of this information about what is in the latent by either reading or dumping the latent. why does this hobby attract so many shizos

>>107543815
don't listen to this faggot, he's trying to stop you from cracking the code. keep going bud, and keep us posted!

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Zit knows wrapped condoms but now used. sigh.

>>107543798
>>107543805
>>107543364
(or other amounts for the second pass etc)

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>>107543862
saw it coming

>>107543862
Do tanks with the Alibaba or Tongyi logo running over them

>>107543841
Very cute, thanks for sharinf

>>107543862
lol'd

>>107543815
that anon generated celebrities. what do you expect from him? a phd?

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>>107543931
fair point

>>107543815
ok, explain with this great knowledge of yours why this:
>>107543297
has a pattern on the legs.

There's nothing in the prompt about any patterns, or legs either.

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>>107543615
BASED! Finally downloading now after many retries!

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Just got access to base. I'm about to gen some lewd content. Some forbidden fruits. I'm up to devious acts.

ai models don't have decompilers, don't listen to the retards saying otherwise.

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>>107543952
nah you got me, it cannot be explained

>>107543196
>>107543225
these look good anon

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>>107543976
Let's see you do it then.

>>107543986
Thanks!

>change CFG from 1 to 1.1
>gen time almost doubles
what the heck

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>>107544020
>gifrel; Anon figuring out what CFG does

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>>107543989
breaking gens isn't hard to do mane

>>107544067
That doesn't have swirls on her legs. Look closely:
>>107543297

>>107544067
is it Z Img base?
it's butiful

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Have you ever got a rejection on the entire girl?

>>107543106
/ldg/bros im making a game
what model for generating NSFW pixelart? is this something you'll have to fine-tune yourself or does there already exist good models i can just run?

even better does there exist a service i can just use? i dont have much compute power locally

>>107544118
>wants to make game
>cant make game

many such cases!

>>107544118
ngmi

>>107544122
i can make a game
i'm fairly new to AI however

>>107544118
yes saar there exist many services for generate NSFW pixelart and make game and even wipe your ass for you

>>107544136
you don't need AI to make a game
just go and make it
you are in denial

>>107544155
brother im talking about generating the art for the game

>>107544146
did you know the nih says rub cow shit in your wounds?

>>107544164
https://search.brave.com/images?q=penis+pixelart

>>107544122
>>107544124
>>107544146
>>107544155
i bet i have more programming experience than all of you retards combined lmao

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>>107544168
>has programming experience
>can't into figuring out a.i for himself
yeah we DEFINITELY believe you.

>>107544180
do you think knowing how AI models work and are ran, is a prerequisite of programming & game development?

>>107544193
Not being a complete learned helplessness retard knuckle dragger with an ego is though

>>107544193
I think you can figure it out yourself

>>107543166
have you tried to prompt that tiananmen square massacre copypasta?

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>>107544198
>>107544202
i can figure it out myself, probably much faster than you did, it'd just be even faster to ask which model to run or which service to use (if one exists) for this purpose. The only ones with egoes here are you retards. Typical nocoder egos in fact, when you only know very little you become very arrogant about that knowledge especially to ones that dont have it, despite the fact that they may have more overall knowledge than you in this domain.

>>107544220
if you werent a complete moron, you'd have figured it out by now

>>107544220
>probably much faster than you did
I'm not making a game involving penis pixelart though

>even faster to ask which model to run
https://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image-Omni-Base

>when you only know very little
I indeed know very little about penis pixelart flavors

>they may have more overall knowledge
and still miserably fail in drawing penis pixelart

>>107544118

> what model for generating NSFW pixelart?

> is this something you'll have to fine-tune yourself or does there already exist good models i can just run?

> even better does there exist a service i can just use?

It depends.

You are monitoring the situation, right?
https://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI
https://github.com/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image

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absolute madman

>>107544289
well send us the link broslice.

>>107544289
Zimg Mayli lora when?

Casual reminder for those unfamiliar with Chinese culture than the base is not coming.

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>>107544351
HAHA! RAPE THIS STUPID FAGGOT FOR SPREADING DOOMER LIES!

Catpiss-anon...

>>107544359
Japan's culture doesn't favor change or individuality, hence ideas are slow to be adopted.

>>107543297
henna obv

>>107543590
get yourself a spicy 3070

>>107544220
I don't think you have the temperament to actually finish a project, gonna be real.

>>107544371
Ah yes, the famous Chinese culture of change and individuality...

>>107544359
japs don't know ingireshu (see kohyass)

Back then, there was Florence2 to get image description in ComfyUI

What's the best option (local VL models) for the end of 2025?

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>>107539778
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>107544395
acting like you know anything whatsoever about chinese culture

>>107544118
> what model for generating NSFW pixelart?
most likely a model that makes nsfw and then you fake or derive actual pixel art from that

> i dont have much compute power locally
do you think you're completely done in a week one-off? unless your electricity costs are so high you must outsource, get at least some decent GPU(s) so you can make your shit

>>107544359

Japan is broke. Not even having enough money to rent a cluster to train. Looks like the US and China will be the main player. Every other country on earth are just NPCs.

>>107544359
Nekopara is nice but post the sfw version or catbox.

> Why are the Chinese on the lead with more efficient models?
China wants to have AI as a matter of their national strategy.

And the coomers and gamers do actually *want* options in China. They're also in the companies.

>>107539778
So it seems it's another Chroma situation, where the turbo model is actually "better" than base for realism
But if it is as easy to fine-tune loras as it is with Chroma, I am fine with it

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"I'm happy with this image! I can't find any huge glaring obvious - "
>The robot's hands are tiny anime girls
god damn it

>>107544494
Inpaint.

>>107544509
I don't do manual work.

>>107544459
I see it differently. Japan is fucking geriatric - also about its money distribution. IIRC the households with positive money are statistically headed by 50+ year olds, below that they have debt.

Rest assured it looks much the same for corporate management. Average age of top corpo leaders got older every year for 33years or so, I think the CEOs now average over 60years.

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Imagine where AI will be in 5 years

https://files.catbox.moe/pfkfku.mp4

>>107539778
Would have been nice, but the finetuners and lora creators want the base model whether it's already better at inference as-is or not.

>>107544481
And most likely it'll be just fine.

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>>107544553

I need Ai waifus at depressing discount prices in 5 years.

>>107544564
coomers move the world

everybody wants to coom the world

>>107544436
no one except tourists ever wanted base for anything except training, that tweet changes nothing

>>107544520
it's your loss

>>107544494
That's actually kinda neat as a design concept even though it makes no practical sense. And they say AI can't be creative...

>>107544564
Why am I so drawn to the broken one...?

everybody's coomin for the weekend

>>107544624
Anon... They are all defective.

>>107543174
best thing that ever happened to the most based country on the planet right now.
if the tiananmen square massacre didn't happen, they'd be another shit Japan or S. Korea right now.

>>107544741
what's your problem with japan anon, my wapanese pride won't stand for this

>>107544741
ok

>>107544751
compared to china, their waifus are trash. chinese girls look better on average, and there are billions of them, and they are far far less westernized.

> make reddit post pointing out that Z-Image does not have and never will have magic reasoning capabilities of any kind and that it's just a good, normal-ass difusion model
> post is somehow controversial as though people think this is a controversial statement or in any way up for debate
This community is FULL of literal fucking retard, jesus christ. Or maybe it's just the same ESLs responsible for interpreting English legalese found in various licenses in insane ways in the past. Who knows.

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Inspired by anon in the last thread >>107541652
I tried making a spooky cultists image with Z, it turned out great, but it is a bit different than I expected. I think it's too cinematic.

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>>107544793
The same prompt with Flux.1 krea
I prefer this. I still use Z because it's as twice faster than Flux thou.

>>107544801
Krea beats Z on many prompts I've tried yeah.
also OP put new NetaYume v4.0 in next bread:
https://civitai.com/models/1790792?modelVersionId=2485296

>>107544801
>hands

>>107544822
he probably used Krea at < Guidance 4.5 (a big mistake, it's not like regular Flux)

>>107544699
why would Rin ever be in the Jannys apartment, let alone fucking him?

>>107539778
don't you people have enough anime models?

>>107544852
Don't you people have enough photorealistic models?

>>107544862
perfect anime was achieved years ago. we've yet to see perfect photorealism

>>107544862
>107544862
In terms of nsfw, no.

>>107544862
Uncensored photorealistic models? BigAsp is the only one I can think of and it's pretty shit

>>107544867
SAAAAAAAAAAR

>>107544764
you're absolutely retarded and saying some Cold War cartoonish nonsense.

china lifted hundreds of millions of people out of extreme poverty in about 40 years. that alone already invalidates your take.
most poor chinese OWN THEIR FUCKING HOMES, even in rural areas.
meanwhile the us has fucking tent cities and people working full time jobs sleeping in cars.
even poor chinese have basic healthcare coverage.
it is not like absolute luxury care sure, but they do not avoid hospitals because one ER visit might cause them to be homeless.

medical bankruptcy is an american invention. nobody else has it in the developed world.

rural china has clinics, buses, rail access, and food security.
poor does not mean "ghetto" or "hillbilly trailer park shit" in China.
compare that to rural america where hospitals shut down, towns die, and the only public service left is cops who just want to kill the last few niggers left in the place, so they can go home and fuck their daughters and beat their wives.

yes, americans can buy more (lol CHINESE) plastic garbage on credit.
congrats on your amazon prime debt slavery i guess.
china has a lower ceiling but a much, much higher floor.
the us has billionaires who have dick size contests with yachts and spaceships.

shenzhen and beijing did not magically succeed in a vacuum.
they are products of state planning, infrastructure investment, and industrial policy.
you know, things the us deliberately refuses to do because a random nigger in the ghetto might game the system.
we fucking HATE welfare queens, don't we anon?

your entire view of China is based memes. cartoon shit.
you're spouting republican nonsense fed to you by billion-dollar think tanks.
you're cutting yourself off from some of the most beautiful, exotic, and faithful bitches on the planet.

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>>107544878

>ugh like, isnt what we have good enough
>we perfected that years ago, no need for any more
>this stuff is getting too complicated, lets just go to sleep!
new SaaS shill techniques just dropped i see. yes, lets all just pretend 2-year old models are good enough. leave innovation to those API guys instead, we're all fine with SD1.5! no more local releases, please!

>>107544867
>perfect anime was achieved years ago.
There is no good anime image editing model. Also, we have to work around the limitations of the 4chan VAE (small details need inpainting) and CLIP: terrible spatial reasoning/ability to follow complex composition rules, so anything not supported by CLIP has to be genned on a modern model first and then i2i'd/ControlNet'd via IL.

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>>107544878
i can't fucking stand seeing people talk shit about china when they're running laps around the US and every other country on the planet right now.
i fucking WISH we had what the average chinese person had.

>>107544883
and go fuck yourself, you retarded nigger. i'm in the south.

>>107544893
Go back to China then. We all know you fuckers loves to live in the US despite all your chest beating on the internet.

>>107544921
>you fuckers loves to live
Come on anon, I don't have a dog in this fight, but your hands are shaking.

>>107544893
it's not even wanting what they have, it's the hope of one day having something better. In the West, politicians have a kind of self-righteous, explicit malice towards the majority of their citizens. Like the mere suggestion that they should prioritize the future well-being of the ethnic majority in their country is taken as some kind of terroristic threat by them. I don't know how you come back from circumstances like this. It seems so hopeless

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>>107544293
https://huggingface.co/spaces/malcolmrey/browser
This dude doesn't use trigger words afaik.
The quality is hit or miss, but maybe it's just my shit sampler/scheduler preferences, I still haven't decided on what to use

>>107544921
nigger i was born in the US, you go back to fucking Wales, you faggot.
i'm white as fuck, and yes, i'm already PLANNING to move to china, especially if you retards keep voting for the worst motherfuckers imaginable.

like can you not see how ridiculous it is to trust the same line that the government feeds you like it's your fucking gospel?
you trust the fucking glownigger line that china is a shit hole, when almost every chinese citizen gets like fucking 3 vacations a year to other countries?
when you go to a decent vacation destination, who do you see there?
look at japan, who was the vast majority of their tourists?

china is a COMPETITOR, and they are beating our asses.

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>>107544937
nigger, i am white. we have been prioritized since the fucking beginning.
we even enslaved other whites who we didn't think we white enough lmao.
shut the fuck up. immigrants are what make this country great (except indians and indian-derivatives).

>>107544966
were*

inb4 point invalid, typo

>>107544939
Really nice. Going to gen some Abigails later on.

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>>107544878
Absolute melty and if true why do so many Chinese have a plan-b in other countries and by property/get a green card?

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>>107545030
so many rich and upper-middle class chinese you mean?
why do so many rich and upper-middle class americans buy villas and stash money offshore?
you dumb fuck.

oh, and people BUYING OVERSEAS PROPERTY and CHASING GREEN CARDS are not the "rural poor", are they?
of course not. they're URBAN PROFESSIONALS, BUSINESS OWNERS, AND ELITES.
but thanks for proving china has a large and wealthy middle class i guess?

by your logic, america must be a shithole too since americans flee to canada, mexico, europe, and asia the second they can afford it right?

also do you notice a pattern? they ain't fleeing famine or collapse, they're diversifying assets, education access, and passports.
something rich people everywhere do, and you're acting like it's some uniquely-chinese thing lmao.

meanwhile actual poor (or what you might call "middle-class") americans don't have a "plan-b", right?
they have payday loans, medical debt, and shopping carts or their fucking cars with everything they own in it.
ESPECIALLY veterans.

toddler brained shit, bro.

>>107544966
that's kind of what I'm talking about. The very notion that the native white populations are so inferior that the only way to improve their countries is by minoritizing them with mass population transfers. Its presuppositions, which are all entirely false, are that whites never built their own countries, can't maintain their countries, and have a moral obligation (because of their historical sins, like slavery, no-one else did slavery, right?) to relinquish their countries. It's ethnic cleansing with a righteous veneer of wanting to culturally 'enrich' and economically improve the boring, lazy, entitled, unskilled whites who have always stolen everything. How do we convince people like you to extend basic human decency to white people? It seems impossible

>>107544459
capitalism = a failed state

>>107545096
the white population in america has uniquely allowed itself to become retarded by the wealthy (everyone is a temporarily embarrassed billionaire and just waiting for a win), government (you aren't the problem, minorities are the problem, but you kinda also don't deserve a safety net because what if they get one too?), social media (algorithms completely control what you see), and news media (before the internet, that's pretty much all most people used to learn about world events, because nobody visited a fucking library or read a book).

let's set that as a baseline for the conversation. do you agree with these things?

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LOCAL DIFFUSION???? HELLOO???????

Local Diffusion General

breathe in, gen out

>>107545096
kill yourself worthless chud. Its YOU specifically who is absolutely worthless to society. Do not speak. I'm so tired of paying for handouts for useless wastes of oxygen like you that ruin everything they touch and have to share their low iq "opinions" in every place on internet. Just kys

>>107544939
he trains with just "sks woman" which makes the loras bleed a lot and at 512x512 which makes the loras mess with smaller details more often like fingers
still better than nothing

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>>107545136
>>107545138
(taps sign)

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I knew it. No fun allowed. Some bug that doesn't let me clear the vram, not even the native unload model etc works. Have to reboot comfy.

>>107544939
how did you find this?

>>107545144
>please don't ethnically cleanse white people
starts convulsing and frothing at the mouth

>>107545191
that was some random person, not the person you were replying to before.

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>>107545151
Yeah. AOC lora just gens ayys all over the place.
>>107545172
Prompt manager starts llama-server completely separately, you won't be able to keep the server up and just unload LLM, there is an option to kill the server upon completion though
>>107545178
He keeps posting updates on leddit at least once or twice a week or so

If there is a diffusion I know it's local

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>>107545094
>>107544951
>>107544893
>>107545162

>>107545172
>install custom nodes
>dont understand fuck anything
>'must be a bug!!! its cumfarts fault!'
>proceeds to cry in the general
how do you manage to breathe?

>>107545206
And no instructions on how to do that on their page, classic.

>>107545235
I breathe fresh clean air, ranjeet.

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>>107544403
STOP IGNORING MY QUESTIONS

The diffusing is local fwiw

>>107545245
joycaption

>>107545245
sorry joycaption for NSFW, qwen3 8b vl for SFW. for boorutags its still wd tagger iirc.
joycaption can do booru, but its not that good

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>>107545243
>no instructions
It's literally there though

>>107545283
this is what i imagine an indian dreams about

>>107545249
>>107545253
Thank you, kind anons!

P.S. China won. No discuss

>>107545151
yeah Malcom Rey is a lazy hacky "muh ohwx / sks stupid bullshit trigger wurdz" faggot retard no better than fucking NocheKaiser. The sort of person who probably fucking thought that cropping your images to square was ever useful in any way. Anyone who has ever trained a Lora at 512x512 for anything other than SD 1.5 should literally hang themselves. Just fucking do it online somewhere if you don't have the hardware to do it right on newer models instead of slopping up the landscape with dogshit.

Do you think loras trained on Z-Image Base will work well on Z-Image Turbo?

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>>107545265
Nothing on their page mentions that it uses a server.

But it's all good now, with the base edit model, this shit will be amazing.

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>>107545225
>file.png
>using an online image generator
>in LOCAL diffusion general

>>107545151
how are you supposed to train it?

>>107545317
Anjelika anon proved it with his famous renders of her.

Cute blonde fennec foxes and their AI applications!

>>107545358
How can he have proven it if Base isn't out yet?

>>107545331
don't use "sks woman", use a name
don't use just small cropped images of the face, use full body shots and multiple resolutions

>>107545389
>don't use "sks woman", use a name
How is a name better than a token?

>don't use just small cropped images of the face, use full body shots and multiple resolutions
I agree with that one.

>>107544403
Qwen3-VL, Joycaption, Florence-2-large-PromptGen-v2.0

Or perhaps the new pixai-tagger or camiev2 or still wd-eva02/vit v3

There are no ideal choices.

>>107545421
thanks, joycaption was my fav so far

Is there a generic API node in ComfyUI to communicate with a local LLM?

>>107545421
does joycaption use detailed, natural language or more just tags?

>>107545407
>How is a name better than a token?
because you can make use of what the model already associates with names, like gender and race, why throw that away? Gen a few images with just the name and if there isn't a strong association already in the model with something unwanted use it.
Using just "woman" makes it bleed harder to other subjects in the image

>>107545365
I think the anon is talking about training on the de-distilled z-image from ostris which is not the same thing as training on base

>>107544815
Is there a model just made for retro anime?

stuff like evangelion

>>107545453
I see. I don't know enough about the distillation and de-distillation process to understand if this will be representative. I'm hopeful for the performance of Z-Image Base loras, but I also like 4-second gens.

is there a lightx2v lora for zit?

>>107545469
I don't mind waiting 2 minutes for a gen if it gives me exactly what I want. I got used to that with flux/chroma

>>107545477
are you retarded?

>>107545478
This is the main reason why I never got into those. The gen iterating process is too slow. Learning, as well. Not my thing.

>>107543615
what's the QRD on this z-image thing?
I'm guessing it's not your typical checkpoint you just load into forge or comfy?

>>107545437
Some try to support stuff via ollama or https://github.com/gokayfem/ComfyUI_VLM_nodes or such.

But AFAIK they pretty much always don't work well with some models.

I'd tend just pick nodes with explicit support for the models I want to use.

>>107545444
Either, but IMO it's not *that* great at tags. It does give you tags if you ask it to tho.

Joycaption has pretty configurable output via prompt (also reflected in some UIs that give you toggles or w/e)

>>107545498
>I'm guessing it's not your typical checkpoint you just load into forge or comfy?
why would you guess that? there was z-image support in Comfy on day 1
>what's the QRD on this z-image thing?
6B, strong prompt adherence, fast, very low seed variation, not as censored as Flux

>>107545407
>How is a name better than a token?
i'm not the anon you're talking to, but an actual name is 'loaded up' with prior knowledge. if you prompt z turbo for 'scarlett johansson', you'll get a temu version of her, but it's unmistakably trying to gen the correct person. you can use this prior knowledge and 'hijack' the tokens to train the model further on it, until you get enough likeness.

back in the old days, some tutorials recommended finding someone the model already knew and using that to train your lora. say you wanted to train a lora on a middle-aged white male with brown hair. then you could train a lora using the tokens 'tom cruise' or 'christian bale' or whatever, since the model wouldn't have to learn from scratch what you were trying to train.

back on topic: using 'sks woman' tries to hijack the 'woman' token, which is too generic, so you get no real prior guidance, and it uses 'sks' as a 'free' token that's not being used for anything in particular in the model, in order to teach your model by building on no prior knowledge of what your subject looks like.

personally, i am in favor of using correct names, but let's say your subject is named 'beyonce', but not the actual beyonce, just a 25 year old white model with blonde hair. would you train the lora using the token 'beyonce'? probably not, since you don't want the model to pick up on what little it knows about 'beyonce'.

in short: it's not an exact science, but in some situations it might be better to use actual names, specially if you want your lora to be able to gen multiple subjects without bleeding concepts (like genning 2girls and it's just clones of the same person since the model learned 'woman' = that subject).

>>107545498
Z-Image? No, it's a typical model that you load into comfyui. Split into text encoder, main model, vae as is also very typical.

>>107545511
>>107545517
well shit, just scrolling through the git page made it look like some brand new tech

>>107545477
It's already distilled and needs like 4 steps to for a decent output, 8 or more for a good output

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GRAB THIS LORA BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE
https://civitai.com/models/1648982/wan-nsfw-posing-nude?modelVersionId=2391828


https://files.catbox.moe/0gtc1v.mp4

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>>107545519
on some level it's new tech in the training and model

but it's maybe also not unfair to summarize "they stuck some nice stuff together and it worked well. with a training that wasn't afflicted by excessive <safety> bullshit. cool."

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>>107545535
what a time to be alive and on the bleeding edge. stuff I dreamed about as a kid is now a reality.

>>107545535
>BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE
why? it's been there for months

>>107545611
>been there for a couple of weeks
FIFY

Because civitai routinely removes loras which can nudify "celebrities"

>>107545600
I can't agree more, anon

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>>107544801
Yeah, it tries too hard to produce aesthetic images. Consequence of a smaller model I guess, hopefully the base model will be more diverse.

>>107545637
>Because civitai routinely removes loras which can nudify "celebrities"
you can do that with any nudity lora tho

>>107545645
>with any nudity lora
on civitai?

prove it

>>107545662
>load Wan
>load nudity lora
>load clothed celeb image
>"the woman's clothes fade away revealing her naked body"
>profit

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>>107545600
https://files.catbox.moe/bcoqmh.mp4

>>107545672
>no prove provided
>opinion discarded
>case closed

>>107545690
>no prove
My fault for engaging with an ESL

>>107545703
You are
- pathetic
- retarded
- just as ugly as your mom

pick one

>>107545716
white

>>107545735
>white
>- pathetic
FIFY

>>107545755
I accept your concession.

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nooo you can't just make an Erika Kirk lora that's disrespectful nooo
haha save image button go BRRRR

>>107545094
> also do you notice a pattern? they ain't fleeing famine or collapse, they're diversifying assets, education access, and passports.
and spies

>>107545888
>2025
>still doing character lora

>>107544553
have you seen ram prices?
it will be in cloud

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Huh, qwenvl recognizes actors?

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>>107545904
yes... and?

america has made it clear time and time again that china is its enemy, mostly because of communism.
why wouldn't they send spies?

and a better question is... why do you think america considers china an enemy?
why does america consider communism such a terrible form of government?
why does america try to destroy every communist nation that pops up?
if a country elects or aligns with communism or even strong socialism, the US considers it a threat, no matter if it was a democracy nor its support.
and every single time, without fail, america treats it as an enemy.

why?

because the US Government doesn't want US citizens seeing them succeed.
because their wealthy benefactors demand it.
because it's far more difficult to exploit a nation's people and natural resources when the government of that country is truly taking care of them.
because they're concerned americans will demand more social programs and less war funding.

war funding that enables invasions, like the one happening to venezuela right now.

for their oil.

>>107545888
better be for BigLust

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Oh snap, you can even tell it to blend two different characters.

>>107545984
is there a template for this? or do i have to manually find the nodes?

>>107546027
pedo

>>107546045
prolly Qwen first DESU
then maybe others
not Z
takes like a gorillion epochs to get good likeness for anything other than a generic asian waifu

>>107546096
can Qwen do porn now?

>>107545984
it knows a number of them, yes

>>107545984
which explains why it knows some celebs pretty well and others not at all

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I love generating images of 2B

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>>107545329
>doesnt know that file.png is how the file is renamed automatically when using 4chanx when pasting directly in the reply box
I wish chinese tourists would GTFO. picrel is still 4 u btw LMAO

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>>107545465
Most anime-style models will give you a retro style if you include tags like
>1990s \(style\), 1990s \(fashion\),faux retro artstyle, retro artstyle
in the prompt.
You can also toss in
>neon genesis evangelion
or
>sadamoto yoshiyuki
If you specifically want the Evangelion "look"

Sound:
>>>/wsg/6051154

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>>107546288
Only had to add Sadamoto Yoshiyuki's name to the prompt and bam

>>107546288
>>107546298
bro where her waist
this is NOT healthy, how can she bear children? are you homo?

>>107543844
not comically filled either, sad

bros this is the only cnet for ZIT right?
https://huggingface.co/alibaba-pai/Z-Image-Turbo-Fun-Controlnet-Union
I remember reeading in the past (or past 2?) threads that there are actually 2 models for it, wanted to try both of em

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>>107546273
>faggot jeet talking to a superior white man with his 9-finger generating web-based image generator

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>>107546361
yeah I found it, it's literally the v2 of this.
Anons were saying comfy doesnt know how new models work and shit but turns out HE WAS FUCKING RIGHT
picrel very relevant, even the guy who trained acknoweldged he fucked up lmao.
so I guess we just gotta wait for v3

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>>107546273
what an embarrassment, i would neck myself

>>107546372
>still thinking its web
you're beyond salvation, dicklet

redpill me on flux2

is there like a realisitc cosplay model? illustrious but amateur realistic? without 2.9d ai slop look

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>>107546305
I insist on a slender waist, but I'll compromise and give you huge tits and wide hips.

>>107546373
You can test it using the untrained layers and see that it's only marginally faster anyway

anime should go /adt/

>>107546382
SOVL
>>107546392
just check the model card's section for safety
>>107546373
>anons
it was the schizo samefagging this shit to death, remember whenever you see a retard crying about how comfy is shit, enshittification, unrestrained use of kek, it's the deranged faggot called trani who's on a personal crusade against comfy since he decided to cut ties with him (since he's a mentally deranged schizo) while trying to prop up at the same time '''''good'''' alternatives like his shitty non-working garbage gui.

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>>107546391
careful posting those 4 finger beauties.
i know how much your religion loves deformations.

>>107546392
It's so safe.

>>107546392
it safed local

>>107546426
no, /adt/ is a cesspool of avatar/name fags doing the whole 'good morning' routine and being drama faggots like anyone who is so self-important to assume a persona in 4chan instead of going to places like reddit or other forums where they can use a name and get all the upvotes they want.

>>107546434
cao ni ma

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Captcha just helped me overcome the urge to make another terrible shitpost

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me going to bed, dreaming about how good the base model is gonna be

>>107546392
They'd rather destroy anatomy understanding and make the model worse than be "unsafe"

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>>107546464
>captcha
whats that

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>>107546449
>cao ni ma
i'm not chinese, and most chinese don't use latin characters to type chinese phrases, silly jeet.
>inb4 1989 tiananmen square massacre, winnie the pooh, and all of your other weak memes.
>>107546526
you should've spent some of that wasted money on a better GPU so you could gen locally.

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>>107545151
>>107545206
>>107545297
The hacky way around genning with that dude's shitty loras is to use them at 0.6-0.7 strength while having an LLM describe the character's facial structure and features in great details. Quality's still meh though.

>>107546526
Captcha is like a little puzzle that you have to solve every time you want to make a post if you're not a 4chan golden member.

>>107546585
link to lora pls anon ilu

>>107544878
>you're cutting yourself off from some of the most beautiful, exotic, and faithful bitches on the planet
I was kinda with you until this part. I'll take a latina over a bug any day

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>>107546398
Depends. Do you look at these and think "Ew, unfappable 2.9D sloppa!" ?

why isn't there cheap ampere card on ebay?

>>107545888
YES YES YES YES!! RELEASE IT PLS!! IVE BEEN ASKING FOR THIS!!1

warm cozy new bread
>>107546619
>>107546619
>>107546619

>>107546612
eh, yeah, on border
real uncannny

>>107545921
calm down tpusa>>107546288

>>107546624
rebaking. ran can go dilate

>>107546298
What model did you use tho?

>>107546485
I like this Kurisu

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>>107546584
for me all SEA shitters are chinese, sorry chang!

>>107546640
WAI-illustrious-SDXL
(and a retro anime lora that I made)

>>107546677
Would you mind sharing? Im a sucker for retro stuff