>>107546313>IT HAS BEGUNto be fair ultra flagships were already stuck on 8GB, like the samsung galaxy s24 for example from last year
Maybe hardware restrictions will necessitate an improvement in software efficiency?
>>107546341
>>107546341Looool you sweet summer child...
>>107546341No. Once an app has been converted from native to Electron, it is impossible to reverse that process.
>>107546313We'll be back to normal in 5 years, then I'll buy a new phone.
>>107546313PC GAYMING IS NEXT!!!
Holy shit is this finally it?Are we finally going to return to sane amounts of ram, and having 16GB of ram in your computer will be seen as no less insane as using a particle accelerator as a TV?
>>107546325Bruh poco x7 pro I got for 200 usd on promo from Ali has 12 gb ram... This is unacceptable
>>107546395it's because they have forgotten the path of Christ. their existence in Hell is imminent for doubling down on Electroniggerapps
>>107546409In a year or two, yea
lmao can't even run android 14 on 6gb ram
>>107546313I'm happy that I boughted the poco x7 pro in promo. I'm set for a good 4-5 years now (I don't care about camera nor mobile GAYMING)capcha YHWHXYahweh X
>>107546415I sure hope so.I will drink the gaymer tears and they shall be delicious
>>107546313finnaly Apple devices ship with market average amounts RAM+ RAM prices.the fairy I saw in the woods last month really granted me my wish.
>>10754643314 works, I had a redmi with android 13 that moved on to 14, it worked well (if you didn't play gayshit impact). Now 15 and onwards however...
>>107546467Same. I'm happy i stocked enough gpus and nvmes to last me 10 years. Only stocked one ryzen cpu but oh well. Cheap Intel 4 cores are plenty
my phone has 16gb of ram.. bow your heads to me poors
>>107546409Nope, there is no way to optimize software and the more complex it gets the less it is possible to optimize. Nowadays even your system software use javascript to render ui elements, and a browser can take 4gb of ram easily without doing anything at all, just for being open.In a year, in fact, the new norm for a gaming pc will be a computer with 64gb of system ram for JavaScript+Rust and 96gb of gpu ram to run large models in local. There is no way back.Ram price will start to go back down once production will be updated to match consumptions
>>107546481It's much less about that and the fact that all modern software is written around the assumption that you have a gaming pc with 32GB of ram to spare and some octa core 900gorillionhz cpu but I'm glad for you for keeping around old CPUs and seeing the value in them
>>107546517I stocked gddr6 gpus bruv. Each 150-200 usd a pop. And Gen 3/ Gen 4 nvmes. Already sold a pair of ddr4 corsair for 110 usd that I got for 35 usd 6 months ago. I'm making bank slowly ;) also selling gaming pcs with 200-250 usd profit margin so I'm chill
>>107546325No sane person buys samshit. Imagine paying over 300 usd for a exynos chipped phone
My coding desktop has 2gb of whatever ram standard they used in 2012. What are phones even doing?
>>107546341jmao
>>107546396There won't be new phones in 5 years (unless you pay 3k usd for the companies who try to recuperate their dram / nand costs by dividing their profits all across their entire product line - see Dell and their new pricing)
>>107546546The way you type irritates me.
>>107546503UNGEZELLIG ALERTMAYA IS MY WAIFU
>>107546567Cheapest xiaomi/poco has 8, some 12. Pro models may have 16 but it's rare, most of them have 12. Plus memory extension that adds a tiny bit of head room
>>107546409"Sane" amounts of RAM for you are apparently 4MB. Joe gets the 32TB because that lets him run the AI model.Look, you may not see it as a problem for scrolling through your instagram tit gallery. But for computers it has been essential that the hobbyists can do more or less what the professionals can do. Most of the damn improvements that actually reached anyone and stopped the market from collapsing into a massively more stagnant pile of shit came from there and small companies.
>>107546341You serious? How old are you brother? Have you been living in a cave? Open a chrome with 15-20 tabs, it uses 8-10 gig easily (on desktop)
>>107546608>"Sane" amounts of RAM for you are apparently 4MB. i'd say something more like 2GB for the average person and 8GB for high end like considering what most people actually use their computer to do, this shouldn't even be that crazy
>>107546313Will this herald a new golden age for developers that can actually write efficient software? E.g. those with a proper CS education?
>>107546632A bit optimistic aren't we? The answer is no. You will have laggy phones and you will be happy
>>107546468be careful what you wish fornow apple may actually DECREASE the ram in their products
>>107546631No. You can't even run a shitty game as roblox or fortnite on 2/4 gb ram. They need to cater to the normies
>>107546632People who can actually have some exposure to embedded systems and computer architecture in general and who are used to working with constraints and limited resources will be well off yesPeople who assume infinite compute and chase big O(n) at all other costs will suffer bigly
>>107546573>jmaoaunt jmaomao's chicken and waffle apefreakan syrup?
>>107546631Why do you need 2GB? 128MB are enough for you to stream your subscription.If that's not the goal but you want to do some local computin' you will soon need more than 8GB because games, AI and other stuff actually requires it to do more.
>>107546717Oy vey he needs more than 4 gb on his phone? SHUT HIS CARRIER SERVICES DOWN
>>107546562No sane person buys a phone for more than $500.
>>107546750You only need 128MB and even that only because decoding the higher resolution AV1 advertisement with its DRM takes as much.
I bought a kit of kingston 32g 6000mhz for my pc in June, costing $139That same kit retails for $519 todayWhat the actual fuck
>>107546839AI money bought out 40% of supply or some shit like that.And one of three cartel members (that had some of the biggest consumer market share) announces its complete exit from producer-to-end consumer supply business. Crucial apparently gets shut down.US tax payer money/tax rebates/... funded much of these BTW.
>>107546880good. I hope all those gaymers can't afford to play their tripple A slop anymore
>>107546313no better time to build a PC than 3 month ago, it'll never get obselete at that rate.
>>107546784people who use their phone for business purposes often buy higher spec phones.
>>107546784That's for damn sure. Consoomers and their consequences have been a disaster for the human race
>>107546313NIGGA WHY THE FUCK DO YOU EVEN NEED 4GB ON A FUCKING PHONE FOR?
>>107546839Boughted a 32 gig ddr4 kit last year for 65 euros. Sold it for 200 euros last week lmao
>>107546313Fuck. I should have bought that Red Magic phone last year. Instead stupid me bought a car and as such had to stick with my old S21 that only has 8gb.
>>107546947You just need to make calls and check emails for business. Also banking. If you mean ai slop or crypto then use your goddamn pc
>>107546967Told you retards to buy before the new year. We told you it was going to get a lot worse before it got better in 2027/2028 (best case scenario)
>>107546341Bruh, we live in a timeline where all tech companies are throwing out their employees and replace them with jeets who can only code web based software. We are fucked.
>>107546313More efficient software incoming? Im all for it
>>107546517You can run windows 11 even on a 2 core i3 thanks to Rufus... If tech apocalypse hits I have enough gear to last me a good 10 years
>>107546954Android needs at least 8GB of ram to function at all
>>107547019You wish bozo. This is not. 90s/2k anymore
>>107547019LOOOOOOOL
>>107547019No, it's just going to run on the cloud instead.
I'm so glad that I hate technology.
>>107546341oh no go easy on him
>>107546341We can’t have that, I’m afraid, or else the shareholders will be sad. We don’t want the shareholders to be sad, do we? You see, if people optimise their software to be efficient within hardware limitations, then they have no reason to buy a new phone. If people aren’t consuming, it means no growth and no money for the shareholders. We have to care about the shareholders, don’t you forget that.
>>107546341best i can do is a text chat program that uses half a billion bytes of ram
>>107546341i fucking wish
>>107547410but how does that benefit the consumer?
>>107546357/thread
>>107547723don't forget billions of gallons of clean water and like 500TWh per year
>>107547778The consumer? Or you mean the Ai datacenters?
>>107546313can't wait for normies to start riot.
>>107546954nigga I use may phone as a desktophttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6cMRTiRAYU
>>107546341>Just vibe code. It'll be efficient o algo.
>>107547994You sir are based. You will survive the apocalypse
>>107546313What are people doing on their phones that needs 16GB of RAM?
>>107548085We will look back to those days where you could grab a top of the line gaming pc for 2-3k usd. Shit is going to get really expensive. It already has started. Better stock up Gen 4 nvmes and gpus, too late for ddr4 and DDR5 now. That ship has sailed
>>107546967BUY NOW BEFORE THE NEW PRICES HIT THE MARKET. THERE ARE STILL SOME SALES ON POCOS ON AMAZON AND ALIEXPRESS
>>107546313Boomers: mustve been the windWait why is everything so expensive now? oh well time to get back to my tv
>>107547778It doesn't.
>>107548196I was able to use a Nokia phone from 2003 for 20 years. I think I'll be able to last with my S21 until 2028 or 2029 when the ram shortage will finally fix itself.
>>107546341usecase for efficient software?
>>107548325That was in the past, before android or regular security updates / Google play store apps stopping working with older phones. You won't be able to use banking app, you won't be able to login to social media, you won't be able to check even the news. Only calls and text
>>107548327lower electricity bill.Efficiency is just cost reduction.
singularitybros, why are we progressing backwards? care to explain? is this all part of gods plan?
>>107548375what makes you think cost is a metric?
>>107548351I mean that Nokia wasn't able to even connect to the internet. I used to log into my online bank with a security code chart that they send to you in mail. And social media etc just can be done with my computer like I did back then.Only app I really need is the authenticator app now, since my work requires it.
>>107548423That will stop working too. You really thing they won't force latest os verification on a 2fa app like authenticator?
>>107548444I mean right now the Microsoft Authenticator android requirement is Android 8. So even like a Samsung J4 from 2018 can run it.
>>107548415Of course you can sell garbage to consumer cattle but efficiency is a serious consideration to increase profit for business.
>>107548466And if you had a phone older than 2018? Gotcha. Nothing is forever my friend
>>107546313But it's a supply problem (someone else is buying all the RAM to progress technology), not that they forgot how to make RAM.Nothing to throw a tranny tantrum over.
>>107548485I mean the S21 got an update to Android 15. I think authenticator apps will support that version until 2029 at least.
>>107548444you can simulate 2fa on laptop, you dont really need a phone. Ive been using that shit because im not gonna bother getting my phone everytime some retarded company wants 2fa
>>107548488Uuuuuh micron exited the consumer market anon... Only sk hynix and Samsung now. I don't know where have you been but Samsung also stopped producing consumer ssd too.
>>107548488We're going backwards for a chance to go forwards
>>107548529Uhhhhhh they are not obligated to sell you shit and anyone else still can. I don't know where you've been but companies are not arms of the government that have to do whatever you want them to.>>107548544Schizophrenia should be punishable by death.
>>107548529That means they will sell chips in bulk to other companies that want to make dimms and etc, not that we wont ever see micron memory in pcs and phones.
Used phone prices are about to skyrocket like used cars.You will buy a 5 year old phone and like it.
>>107548566Yeah but smaller companies have to sell shit more expensive as they won't be getting anything pre assambled. If you think biwin or kloexia or adata have some fabs laying around, hidden in the woods then you're wrong
>>107548566They move away from consumer grade stuff to Ai data center grade retardo. They decrease production of consumer dram or gddr7 and transfer the production to hbm
>>107548587Let it come I just got my poco x7 pro, and have a ryzen 9 with rtx 4080. I'm good for another 6-7 years
>>107548667>poco x7 proShould I get this one or the x6 pro? The x6 one looks better imo.
>>107548708Get x7. More ram and storage and a better chip
>>107548708Also x7 has amoled, x6 has ips
>>107546573jizzing your ass off ?
>>107546580>There won't be new phones in 5 years>>107548658Are all of you high right now? How do you that will be the case?
>>107548788Nigger it shows you're not following any news nor checking the online stocks. EVERYTHING IS GETTING TRIPLE OR QUADRUPLE THEIR ORIGINAL PRICE. WHEN THE STOCKS END YOU WILL HAVE TO WAIT TILL 2027 FOR THE NEW STOCK TO ARRIVE (CONFER AMAZON SCREENSHOTS OF SAMSUNG AND LEXAR PUTTING A SINGLE 8 GIG STICK OF DDR5)
>>107548788Point and laugh at this naive fool. Micron themselves said fuck it and exited the market. Dram is something so precious Samsung won't even sell it to Samsung (mobile phone division)
>>107548788
>>107546313>buying a TV instead of a smart TV.>buying a car instead of a connected car.>buying a thermostat instead of a WiFi thermostat.I like where we're going.
>>107548820>YOU WILL HAVE TO WAIT TILL 2027 FOR THE NEW STOCKSay you can’t count without saying you can’t count.>>107548898Half of this shit dosent need RAM anyways.
>>107548898washing machine broke recently and had to buy new>all have wifi to phone>cant remember last program usedmy disgust for modern tech is over 9000
>>107548907You simply do not understand. You will not touch any of the new stock arriving. It is already paid for by the pc shops, big boys and such. You will have a single 8 gig stick in August 2027 and you will be happy. Should have gotten a good rig when computing was dirt ass cheap in the last 2-3 years
>>107546341No trolling outside /b/, anon.
>>107548575Optimization exists in Wright Patterson air force base?
>>107546341lmao
>>107546341Imagine such a timeline! It’s absolutely bonkers how today’s PCs are slower than they were in 90s and 00s simply because of bloated software.
>>107548923>still can’t countlol lmao even
Worst part of these threads are the entitled fucks flashing epeen everywhere.
>>107548976So you think Microsoft, Apple and Google will do careful fixes to their operating systems?Also this won't even help you all that much on Linux either.
>>107548587Locked hardware makes old phones useless. It's not PC, where you can just install Linux or something else.
>>107549051Yea. And even if unlocked there are quite many phones that unfortunately suck on Treble GSI and/or don't even have their proprietary driver blobs for current kernels.
I have a different opinion, yes of course they are not going to optimize shit at first, but the economy is going down the drain, ai bubble will still take a few years to burst, so RAM will become an issue they will have to deal with, either by optimization or new tech.
>>107546341Surely the H1B visa jeets will become skilled enough to accomplish this task. They would never make your products worse and ask to you to pay more for them, never ever.
>>107548820There is no need for new hardware other than to replace failed devices owned by those who failed themselves by not accumulating spares.Do you people really not live to prepare for adversity?You're not going to die because you don't get a new toy. There are plenty of used toys. Thinkpad users for example won't suffer much or at all.A year or four is not a long time. There are many things to do with technology instead of blindly consoom. As opportunity offers profit others will eventually produce more RAM, but you do not NEED it now. >>107548898As do I, never having adopted any of those because they fail to serve my use case. Inflation happens. Social change happens. Be ready. I am. Whatever you were doing that wasn't economically productive an/or technically educational doesn't matter anyway. Acquire backup devices from the used market before that has time to react in the coming year. Multiple redundant older devices are better than one toy whose brief newness fades anyway.Acquire knowledge (the true purpose of the internet) including the ability to repair and maintain everything you own, which should have been your life objective since youth. Computers are toys to most, not the tools they should be. That's their mistake.
>>107546341which white workers will be doing that? oh right you got rid of them all. dont worry sar, Pajunkeb will promise to get it done, report that his team is finished, then outsource customer support to his brother in dali so he doesnt have to deal with it.
>>107549129Nigger I make 1k usd extra per month by selling gayming pcs by putting used parts together, then installing windows 11 and activating for free. I know how to repair and maintain shit, do not worry. Worry about your own ass
>>107549034you can already fix linux by not using the mainstream crap and run a minimal custom distro on a netbook from 2000 fine.>>107549051how locked is it really when you can root them and reinstall another os? I know are busted got a xiami that cant be rooted without sucking corpo dick and registering with them but assumed others were better
you stupid NIG/G/ERS can't understand what is goin' on?!FAGMAN JEWS will force you use their "thin clients" to use their SERVICES by subscription only model.own nothing and you will be happy!next stages:- any mobiles devices laptops/phones without access to local storage or it will small (OS only) and unusable. All your files\photos will be stored straight into icloud\onedrive\etc. and profiled.- no vidya gaming. wanna play? subscribe GFNYou fucked already and don't even understand it.FUCKEN JEWS will annihilate local computing.Stay based, use own local services. be free
>>107546313I love it but I hate the fact companies will keep every price the same. So you're paying the same for less. But phones never needed 16GB of RAM. Get a laptop, faggot.
>>107549203>dont use it>it diesthey already tried it before and it failedthey cant enforce using their shit and then it will collapse
>>107549203Fuck you bitch I have 4 gpus and two mobos in my stock. Two ryzen cpus too. I have 14 tb of pirated vidya, anime, movies and os isos/software. As long as I have working electricity I'm set for life.
>>107549222>they cant enforce using their shit and then it will collapsethey already did it.You already have a generation which define CHATGPT as a SINGLE SOURCE OF TRUTH (SSOT).They can't code, can't build PC, can't fix car, can't nothing but mimic monkeys in tiktok or larping.Nobody think about privacy, about rights, world of fucken NPCs.You think if next iPhone 18-19-20 will be like 20Gb local storage without access and they give you 2Tb of cloud storage somebody will reject it? No one will.
>>107546341HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHALOOK AT THIS FUCKING RETARDAHAHAHAHAHA
my family called my great grandpa crazy for stocking food because he lived through the great depression.my family called my grandpa crazy for stocking guns since he lived through the cold war.my family is going to call me crazy for stocking up used computer parts since I see where this bullshit is heading.
>>107549203There's a few problems with this:1. There's a lot of old personal computers around2. Smartphones are already this waySo this is not enforceable for PCs and is already the case for smartphones.
>>107549306everyone here knows chatgtp is shit. the kids certainly aint gassing it up.Everyone also still owns old hardware.We can easily hold up a decade buying nothing new. They cant survive not selling anything for a decade.
>>107549306>local storage without accessI have feeling in 6-7 years that will be the norm on iphone.Future for both phones and pc's is being just web browser terminal.
>every fucking app is made with Electron or other shitty frameworks>RAM becomes unobtainium
>>107546341lmao@u
>>107549358Though, in long term it is enforceable, because SSDs and HDDs do not last forever.
>>107549435the companies wont survive 2 years without sales. Current ssd will last easily 5+ years.
>>107549435Flash Nand is better but too bad they are reducing producing that welp. Enjoy your cloud based storage GOY
>>107549358>There's a lot of old personal computers aroundthey eliminate old PC by "System requirements" as always. You can't user FAGMAN services or GOV\FED services if your device can't comply with jewish spyware and backdoors like TPM/InTELAVIV_ME/etc.You hardly can register any FAGMAN account without phone number. What's next? Phones by ID?I'm not talking it will like tomorrow or next 5 years but I'm clearly see what is going on.You can't buy RAM, you can't buy SSD.
>>107549493phone by id is already a thing.bunch of eu countries need to face id to enable their sim card. If you are in a free country and fly over they disable your sim.Was in protugal&spain no issue anon sim, flew to germany and sim went out.
.>>107549493 >>107549533Basically every dystopian scenario you can think of is already implemented in smartphones.It's truly a cursed tech.
>>107549435>because SSDs and HDDs do not last forever.they killed HDD (I'm not even talking about CMR vs trash SMR), BD industry gone.You hardly can find SSD based on MLC or good TLC with DRAM cache. Only fucken QLC with 600TBW which last in 2years.>>107549482>Enjoy your cloud based storage GOYthat's I'm talking about.I can't buy RAM (even so-dimm), hardly can find last SATA SSD (like Samsung PM893) or nvme Samsung 980 Pro. Or proper AMD laptop. It's gone. Or skyrocketing prices.
what are people doing on telephones that requires more than 8gb ram?
>>107548101This, going to buy a 5070ti to replace my 3060ti before the ram prices start pushing the gpu prices up too.
>>107549613Android got so bloated that it lags on anything below 8 gig ram. Apple gets by as their os has less open functions to users, everything is locked and stripped down. I can download 30-40 gig games on my android, then transfer it to my pc while editing a pdf on the go, or light room a photo. Itoy can't do that
Rumors are that the the big tech companies arent even using all these ram chips, they are just buying them all up and putting them in warehouses so their competitors cant buy them.
>>107549533>If you are in a free country and fly over they disable your sim.I'm literally locked in my country.>Was in protugal&spain no issue anon sim, flew to germany and sim went out.In my country you still can buy anon SIM (esim or physical) without any questions about ID. Even if you moving abroad you can use roaming calls and 4G\5G internet.We even don't have any whitelist for IMEIs. You can use any phone from any market (GB, US, JP, CN, etc) without any restrictions by cell operators or government.
>>107546509>Ram price will start to go back down once production will be updated to match consumptionsLol. The manufacters have already decided they aren't expanding their fabs. Ai ghouls will pay 1000× for ram cause they are desperate. Why work harder so you can make less money?
>>107546509The new production batches are expected to yield in 2028... So good luck brother
>>107549677i could buy a sim in germany anon too but activating the sim required id verification.They are only catching the honest with this shit of course cause you can simply have someone else do the auth for you or buy a sim someone already authenticated.
>>107549714Any option to ask olders (like some granddad) for verification?
>>107546503My phone is a dumb phone that handles all my daily needs without social media cancer or wifi/bluetooth tracking, and lasts 2 weeks on a single battery charge.Bow YOUR head to ME.
>>107546313But why? That doesn't even make any sense. Why is it cheaper to make 4 GB of RAM versus 8 or 16? It's the same process regardless.
Things aren't going to get betterYou'll just be expected to pay more for less. This is how it works.
>>107549899It is not. Transistor count is different, amount of materials is different, maybe they have more batches of 8 and 16 gigs and they want to dedicate that line fully to Ai companies
>>107549613consoom slop on instatok
>>107549917But this isn't for servers. It's mobile RAM unless we're seeing embedded AI devices now?
>>107549928EVERYTHING IS DIVERTED TO COMPLETE ORDERS FOR AI COMPANIES. THEY DONT CARE ABOUT LOW GRADE BINNED CHIPS OR LOW CAPACITY DRAM/NAND
>>107549645It's a fact they're not using them. The power grid can't support all the AI GPUs that Nvidia is shitting out.
>>107549941Apparently so. I figured if you have to make RAM for mobiles regardless (and they do) then might as well make it a batch of 8 or 16 but apparently the process is different somehow in ways I don't understand.Is it really that much cheaper for them to manufacture 4 versus 8 or 16?Sounds like scrounging bottom of the barrel type stuff to save some pennies on BOM costs.
>>107546341SAAAR I ASK CHATGPIT FOR SOFTWARE EFFIENCIES SAAAR RAKESH MAKE GOOD OS FOR YOUR PHONES SAAAR PLEASE GIB H1B VISA SAAAR
>>107549899They are producing 16gb ram chips and selling the defect ones as 8gb or 4gb depending on how bad defects are.Basically reselling the leftover trash to consumers. This is btw how it works with all hardware where you have same thing with different specs.
>>107549956They still want to recover some easy and steady cash flow I wager, plus smartphones work as a tangible, physical ad in this day. No wonder Mark ASS nigga Lee gets sponsored non stop and has like 2-3 phone reviews every single week
>>107549979So they're producing more defective RAM than ever and now they have to offload it somehow, another words?Damn those poor yields, you'd have thought they'd have turned it into an art form by now.
>>107546313Deep down in the supply chain, the bew EUV machines apparently also kind of suck and constantly break because the Zeiss optics they use is inaccurate as fuck. The intellectual brainrot of our current age affects all levels. Old technology was truly superior
>>107550211That's how it always is, lower-end hardware is a byproduct of failing to make higher-end hardwarehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_binningSometimes they're extra greedy about it and don't even bin the defective oneshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_900_series#GTX_970_hardware_specifications
>>107546341People here are laughing at this but if you think about it for second.It might actually do something positive in long run.People will try to use AI which will not work since it will produce garbage. People will try to use jeets which created one of the most hated piece of software in history of humanity Microsoft Internet Explorer but this will also fail. Boomer coders will have to return and teach young pathetic JS and Rust coomers to handle C again. Then i waked up... it's a dream but what if ?
>>107546409I upgraded my stinkpad from 8 to 16 gb and it's been utterly useless for my usageCouldve saved 18 eurobucks
>>107546954100 Firefox tabs
>>107549948Nvidia is building up a supply that will go to china when the ban is lifted.
>>107550757Unless china gets their own gpu that is comparable in performance first. They are starting on dram but it's not up to the same mhz nor timings yet
This is the first step in the full jump into the cloud. >we have no more ram, but with azure you can run windows in cloud with 1GB
>>107546341With jeets taking over software? lol, lmao
>>107546313I voted for this
>>107546313How is it possible phones need so much RAM?What the fuck is wrong with modern developers.Let's use 20 layers of abstraction for my web app that shows you what day of the week it is.
>>107546341No, you're just going to be told to accept your new phone being slower than your old one.
>>107546616I just opened 15 tabs and my computer's entire memory usage went to 3.3GB.
>>107550928My S23 is idling rn at 4.8/8GB, an additional 1.1GB is reserved for undisclosed reasons as wellfuture looks so grim
>>107551327My desktop with Steam and Chrome (forma de 6 tabs) open is using 3GB total, but I'm using Linux like a normal person.
