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>"AI will take us to the future"
>look inside
>AI sends us back to 2015
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I voted for this
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>>107551007
Bright side of this problem: Microsoft will ditch Windows 11 and resurrect Windows 7 instead.
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>>107551007
> source
> trust me bro
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AI can put it to better use. In fact you don't need electricity in your house. The AI will make better use of that and help progress humanity.
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You can hardly open any browser tabs with just 16GB of RAM these days. YouTube tabs take 2GB each on Firefox.
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>>107551007
so my thinkpad t14 with 16gb of ram will be considered a "high end" laptop in 2026.

lol
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>>107551085
You don't need a source for that.
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>>107551104
no they don't
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I have 8 and never needed more.
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>>107551104
maybe stop using bloatfox then.
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>>107551007
Does this shit fuck with DDR3 prices? I got an old laptop I've been meaning to upgrade, because windows 10 on 8GB of ram sucks, I couldn't even imagine Win11 on 8GB
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>>107551104
This is due to JeetScript React bloat.
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Maybe we'll finally be forced to optimize for resource efficiency in software again!
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>>107551276
a 5 minute video is taking 2GB right now
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>>107551300
it seems used 8gb ddr3 prices on ebay and aliexpress have increased recently
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>>107551309
Optimization is a feature is a universe of anti-features
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>>107551104
Normies are going to install 1 or 2 programs that run in the background then wonder why their machine is so shit.
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>>107551073
Thatd be a pretty cool timeline, ram shortage btfos last decade of developer decadence and tooling and devs have to go back to laying sprites and static serving unreactive mvc
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>>107551323
idk what the fuck is wrong with your Firefox but i tried a few 5 minute videos and its only taking 300MB to 500MB of RAM even after buffering everything. I have uBlock Origin blocking ads
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>>107551406
it climbs after some time, it starts at 500MB then goes to 2GB, i even saw a youtube tab go to 5GB a few days ago. i'm using the latest firefox ESR with ublock

other people are reporing the same issue
https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1p8exko/youtube_on_firefox_is_killing_my_ram_for_some/
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>>107551007
>2015
Nigga, my PC is from 2014 and it's got 32GB ram.
I had 8GB in 2008.
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>>107551007
It's about time we had a hardware recession. Corpo devs have gotten far too comfortable with having infinite computing power forever.
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>>107551553
>Corpo devs have gotten far too comfortable with having infinite computing power forever.
Corporations will still give employees high-end work laptops that have much more RAM than average consumer laptops.
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640 KB ought to be enough
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>>107551640
50 bucks for that soon
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is it too late to buy 64gb+ sodimm ddr5
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>>107551007
Lmaooo! Fuck you, got mine 192GB in my Qubes OS adorned Thinkpad!
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>>107551085
i asked ai and it told me it was true
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>>107551007
At least the good news is that since they're reducing the hardware specs, they will proportionally reduce the cost.
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>>107551742
>they will proportionally reduce the cost.
hahahahahahaha
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>>107551749
Seriously. It's cheaper for them to manufacture, so the savings are passed on to us the consumer.
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Welcome to the Biden economy, folks.
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>>107551765
Where can I buy tickets to your comedy show?
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>>107551007
>my 32gb lunar lake will be considered ultra premium in a couple years
Neat
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>>107551007
If you guys were real patriots mail your ram to your nearest Data center. Do you want China to with the AI race???
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>tfw you fell for the 16GiB of RAM meme
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>>107551812
Ahh hahahahahahahaha!!!! My stable diffusion qube has 36GB assigned to it right as I type this very reply! What a loser, no wonder you're incel!
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On the plus side, hardware restrictions will mean developers start optimizing the software.
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>>107551007
This kind of reminds me of the GPU mining demand a few years back and how the market was fucked until mining became too unprofitable for most users.
I hope something similar happens with RAM for AI for a consumers standpoint.
For an anti-doomer perspective, we might actually get more polished software out of this and end up ahead when ram comes back down in price.
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feels good, I bought 32 GB DDR5 RAM for £100 2 years ago
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>>107551857
>we might actually get more polished software out of this
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>>107551831
Why are you genning shit with 2 year old tech? That image look like absolute shit, specially the hands at a micro resolution.
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>>107551886
... because I'm just starting, OK? I've been playing with LLMs for a dozen months and ignoring image gen until recently.
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>>107551886
>when I inspect the image at x500% zoom, a dozen pixels are wrong, this image is shit 0/10 would not bang
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>>107551323
>26696 tabs
you’re the problem
not youtube
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>>107551917
Jesus you must be blind or retarded to not see all that shit at first glance, quality its trash, just see this shit >>107551911 no coherence on the clothes at all and purposely hid the hands
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>>107551917
Perfection is my goal, and it is a journey worth undertaking.
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>>107551956
Either point me to local image gen resources or face a future of seeing my future shitty gens.

>:^)
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>>107551917
It's objectively shit, people were genning better stuff two years ago.
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>>107551085
what other source you need than your fucking brain?
if there wont be ram, where do you think laptop manufacturers will pull it from? out their asses?
either they will have to create an insane price spike or cut the specs, and we know that they will do ... both, so you will pay double for less
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>>107551104
then dont use faggotfox
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>>107552058
It feels so nice to be maxed out on RAM right now. I literally couldn't have bought more if I wanted to in the preceding year! Lmao this is going to be the biggest bull trap ever, I bet plenty of speculators out there buying now to ebay later.

Lmao suckers!
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>>107551831
>36GB
Bruh, an iPhone SE with 4GB RAM generates better looking images than that.
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>>107551007
good thing i upgraded my core i3 ideapad to 20GB in august

is 8GB really that bad though? 4GB is awful sure but i got by fine with 8GB before i started modding minecraft. even with windows 10 it never had problems just browsing the web and playing movies
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>>107552114
8GB is chromebook tier. Just enough to load YouTube or Facebook in Chromium.
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I fucking knew they'd go that route.
OF COURSE completely ignoring the fact that compared to 2015 (which was already bad) software and internet sites are bloated several magnitudes more by now.

GG
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>>107551007
How are windows laptops going to even be a thing when they need 4gb just for the system idle and 2gb for microsoft update running in the background? As soon as they open discord which their system will crash since discord requires 2gb ram on windows 11
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>>107551847
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>107551007
i thought AI needs a lot of ram.
how am I going to use my lappy if Windows will be using 50% of avail ram at start up plus AI now.
what % will be avail. to everything else
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>>107551073
This will be the funniest and most based outcome ever, but you just know they will push you to a cloud based environment full of bloat and AI shit that you will have zero control over it
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>>107552176
Sure, smartass. They aren't just going to let their products get worse. Customers would complain.
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>>107552214
>i thought
First of all, bad. Stop doing that. Just use AI for that and believe whatever it tells you.

But also, you're missing the bigger picture - companies don't care about AI on the edge (on your computer anymore). It's better for them, in every way, when you just send your data to their AI datacenter, under the terms of some EULA that says "We value your privacy; we sell everything you do to our 3210821602 partners with zero restrictions on what they can do with it, fuck you".
So guess what. That's what they're all doing now. Why give you privacy.
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>>107552228
Say hello to your new Cloud-hosted Terminal Services desktop!
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>>107552262
it's all about B2B these days. customers get fucked
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>>107551352
well fuck
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>>107552262
>They aren't just going to let their products get worse. Customers would complain.
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bring back 1366x768
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>>107551289
>>107552076
coordinated google shill moment
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>>107552483
>>107552502
Well excuse me for having optimism and excitement for the future of technology.
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>>107551104 here

>>107551289
>>107552076
>>107551406
I just switched to Vivaldi. Looking good so far. More competent reskin of Chromium than Brave, that's for sure.
Mozilla doesn't view it as a priority to fix the YouTube memory leak that has been going on for over a year:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1931717
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>>107551007
They will use this as an excuse to turn everything into a cloud based subscription service. Anything other than optimizing their shitty memory wasting software.
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>>107551974
ignore him buddy, carve your own soulful path
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>>107551007
like ethnically replacing white workers with H1visa holders, Ai companies realized that the only way to get mass adoption of their shitty product is to make the world shittier for everyone else so their garbage looks good in comparision. Nobody replaced white geniuses in the 90s with jeets because 150 iq chads are obviously > 80 iq jeet subhumans. but after almost 20 years of commoncore, the tech industry in california can only source locally grown 90 iq whites who cant even read at a high school level, so in comparision 80 iq jeets look like a good deal at half the price.
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>>107551323
I can open >100 pornhub tabs in less than 12 gb
yes, I'm a porn addict but we are talking about firefox performance
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>>107551974
I'm still on old models too, but apparently the latest hotness is z-image.
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>>107551930
that's some process ID number, not number of tabs
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Has anyone else noticed over the decades that as computer technology increases, the quality of computer programing decreases???

I think there are many reasons for this. One is it's you can hire cheaper programmers to write inefficient code and make up the difference with computer performance. Then this NEW software will have higher requirements, which drive hardware sales. This trend has gone on for decades, until it's reaching it's peak with LLMs. LLMs are not new or elegant or sophisticated. It's old 90's technology that's being super charged with modern hardware.

The delicious irony that ITT demonstrates so well is they've reached diminishing returns to such a degree that the trend may now reverse. With less memory available we may be forced to go back to better programing. Alas tho, everything has been re-geared and retooled for AI fueled vibe coding. With out a change in course I see this tail spinning into a death spiral very quickly.

When the dust settles tho, I wonder which ideology will rein supreme. Hardware focused computers, or software focused computers? Which will win out in the end I wonder.
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>"AI can't do anything!"
>something you don't like happens
>"AI did this!"



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