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I recently got my laptop back after it was seized by the LEA. They found nothing since I had FDE using Truecrypt but now I'm worried if they tampered with my device or installed a backdoor. I have placed it inside of a faraday cage and I'm thinking whether I should get rid of it. My mom's also asking a lot of questions which makes me think the house has been bugged. Currently posting from my phone which hasn't been compromised. My parents foolishly allowed the agents to take my laptop without a search warrant while I wasn't home and now they're trying to make me confess for my sins. What should I do? I'm obviously getting a lawyer within the next few days, but does /g/ think my laptop is safe to use, or should it be destroyed?
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>>107552318
the fuck did you do?
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>>107552340
I did nothing wrong
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>>107552318
1. What did you do?
2. What do they say you did?
3. Why don't I have a gf?
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>>107552414
are you a miner attracted person?
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>>107552435
>nothing illegal
>undisclosed. I don't know if I'm still under investigation or being watched or if what they did was entirely legal. I'll have to consult a lawyer first
>probably because you're on this site. it's not the only reason but it's a big one for sure
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Antisemitism IS illegal tho. You asked for this.
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>>107552318
>/g/ fag under investigation posting Lain pictures
Pedo confirmed
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>>107552472
no but for once I am glad that the schizos on /g/ helped me. I knew there was nothing wrong with truecrypt and that the constant veracrypt shilling meant it's probably backdoored. also the security audits by a (((former google employee))) showing it had 2 big vulnerabilities which were fixed in veracrypt, LMAO
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>>107552318
yes you are compromised nuke it all.
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>>107552318
>whether I should get rid of it.
always get rid of it
sell it on ebay

the analysis youre supposed to do is risk vs cost
and a good opsec is worth all the gold in the world
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>>107552536
that's what I thought but how should I buy a new one? if I'm constantly being followed or watched, aren't they going to preemptively backdoor every delivery I make?
I am not exaggerating or being a schizo about the stalking. Literally the only time I left my house in over a month, my laptop gets seized.
I have also limited my online usage until now.
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>>107552602
good observaton.
but if you buy your hardware in a store, in-person maybe you can go around that.
maybe even go to another city
they can follow you but wont know where you will get your new laptop, in advance
maybe buy something used in a pawn shop, something before the era of hw backdoors
it would be kinda messed up if you buy something specifically to evade surveliance only to buy an ex-spook, or already backdoored laptop. but it think its unlikely
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there's no reason for anyone, including governments, to do anything requiring secrecy on network connected communication devices

it'll all be globally public one day, the only task until then will be obscuring who/what/when/where/why
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>>107552720
i disagree.
it is important for a country to have control over, and insight into the communications of its citizens
you want to be able to catch pedos, criminals, gangs, murderers, subversives etc.

the problem lies in the control structures of western governments and the lack of incentive to actually serve to the people they represent
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>>107552751
you haven't contradicted my premise
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>>107552786
depends on the scope of secrecy
if the target knows their comms channel is comped, they will use alternatives, obviously
plus even now i think its common knowledge that secret services snoop on people's data
the feds do wiretaps since back when we still used wires
id say surveliance is not secret in its global scope since the public learned about the capability
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>>107552318
>Currently posting from my phone which hasn't been compromised
actual retard
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>>107552658
what if they backdoored my home router as well?
or maybe they're getting live info from my ISP.
all tech shops near me could be compromised.
I guess my only option is to travel very far.
I could also format my hard drive and continue using my laptop. they couldn't have installed a hardware backdoor, right? I'm just not that interesting for them to waste so much time for potentially nothing to gain. besides, formatting my drive will wipe everything and I can continue using it for legal stuff only.
>>107552813
it's the only device I have which wasn't at my home during their search.
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>>107552318
Get a new laptop.
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Sighs.
Dude, if you're not a schizo and have compromised devices you use them as reverse honeypots.

That is, you look like a completely innocent, joe-jerkoff, vanilla, boring motherfucker you can.

They want you for technical knowledge? You're literally googling how to install a new browser or game emulator.

They want you for drugs? You only watch cooking channels and search for foreign snacks.

They want you for crypto and dark web shit? You're only watching sports channels in Youtube and google how to bet online.

They want you for some degenerate porn? You have a big crush on whatever celebrity is in fashion right now and her mildly risque pictures.

Hide in plain sight.

OPSEC and Tradecraft, dude, distract, misinform, redirect and use to your advantage. You now a valuable asset to deploy your own countermeasures.
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>>107552876
>what if they backdoored my home router as well?
>or maybe they're getting live info from my ISP.
they probably did both
>all tech shops near me could be compromised.
depends on how badly they want you.
depends how many tech shops there is around you
if the only seedy tech shop in a 20 mile radius has like 4 models on sale
and they want you quite bad
it is well possible their shit is compromised
if you live in jew york, the logistics of pulling something like that off kinda preclude something of the sort happening
too many model you could buy, too many possibilities for you to chose from, and all that would need to be done in secret. i dont think its happening

>I could also format my hard drive and continue using my laptop. they couldn't have installed a hardware backdoor, right? I'm just not that interesting for them to waste so much time for potentially nothing to gain. besides, formatting my drive will wipe everything and I can continue using it for legal stuff only.
i think its the best thing to do. just retire because they will always have an eye on you
but at certain moments their surveliance will be less pronounced
if its political shit youre kinda fucked. once theyre convinced you cannot do to them you'll be victim of a failed robbery, with the freak chance that this exact day all cameras in a 100m radius were out of order
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>>107552876
>what if they backdoored my home router as well?
get a new router.
>or maybe they're getting live info from my ISP.
encrypted tunnels
>all tech shops near me could be compromised.
go to a costco and grab a random computer. have possession of it the entire time and buy it. an entire commercial lot being hardware bugged just to get (you) is very unlikely and would be a bigger problem than whatever you've got going on.
>formatting my drives
only if you overwrite the data, and bad sectors could still exist, trust the software etc etc. if you insist on continuing to use your hardware, you'd be better off nuking the drives and replacing them with new ones.
>it's the only device I have which wasn't at my home during their search.
unless youre running graphene, you'd be very foolish to have complete trust in your mobile device being uncompromised.
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>>107552969
>t. glowie
>infuriated by the absolute amateurishness of his assignment
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>>107552318
first of all your parents betrayed you, what are you gonna do about that?
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God damn I love not being a criminal.

>nothing to hide
>not hurting anyone
>sleep easily at night

Comfy. Thanks for the reminder OP.
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>>107552318
>My mom's also asking a lot of questions
maybe she is the one recording you and gonna rat you out
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>>107553111
>trips of purity
blessed post
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>>107553111
there are so many laws that everyone is criminal on bunch of them every they, clearly you have no idea
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>>107552318
Just move out
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>>107552318
This OP glows, it's a gaint psyops.
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>>107552318
>hey found nothing since I had FDE using Truecrypt
What reason do you have to trust this?

>Currently posting from my phone which hasn't been compromised
you think this, why?
Zero click exploits exist, and a common infection vector is shit like whatscrapp...

>What should I do?
What did/didn't you do?

>but does /g/ think my laptop is safe to use, or should it be destroyed?
It's likely safe. Your local plod are prolly not very computer savvy. If it's been long enough to have moved to someone competent, a decent investigation, and longer, be concerned.

If there was any hope of using that as evidence against you, they wouldn't have given it back. Unless it is compromised.

Legitimately, It's probably fine. But you prolly should treat is as per the GCHQ of invasion of the guardian offices. Tho on the other hand, if you leave it intact you can potentially begin to analyses any malware they leave behind.

When the police unlawfully destroyed the contents of my netbook and really failed hard in installing a backdoored OS I discovered the credentials they use to login are hardcoded. Which means I can now use any computer they've installed their malware on.
Dipshits.
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>>107552318
It's over, they know
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>>107553204
total kino
what a bunch of dildos
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>>107553204
>Unless it is compromised.
Which competent defence could argue is entrapment, btw
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>>107552971
>once theyre convinced you cannot do to them you'll be victim of a failed robbery, with the freak chance that this exact day all cameras in a 100m radius were out of order
I'm never leaving my house ever again
>>107552997
>unless youre running graphene, you'd be very foolish to have complete trust in your mobile device being uncompromised.
I'm using grapheneos. even if I wasn't, it's still the only choice I have for an uncompromised device
>>107553093
>first of all your parents betrayed you, what are you gonna do about that
I don't think they did. They are fairly old and innocent(don't have anything to hide or care about opsec kind of mindset). I think they just got convinced that they're doing the right thing by a charismatic agent and forgot to exercise their rights.
>>107553113
>maybe she is the one recording you and gonna rat you out
she wouldn't do that. I know my parents and I love them. she is just worried like any mother should be.
>>107553204
>What reason do you have to trust this?
well they returned, so I guess they got nothing on me?
>107553227
>Which competent defence could argue is entrapment, btw
thanks for letting me know, I will consult a lawyer this week.
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>>107553227
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>>107553257
>>once theyre convinced you cannot do to them you'll be victim of a failed robbery, with the freak chance that this exact day all cameras in a 100m radius were out of order
>I'm never leaving my house ever again
dont let it go to your head.
you would need to be on the level of some snowden or something
but yeah, thats how shit gets done

and staying home wouldnt help.
home invasions are a thing
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dunno OP you seem a bit skizo.
Depending on the country secret surveillance on a citizen which is not formally accused of anything is something reserved for mafia / terrorism / cartel drugs / glowie targets. A judge must give authorization on some pretty substantial case
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>>107553257
whats your monthly marijuana use like
>inb4 its illegal in my locale therefore im stone cold sober mr fbi
dont use cannabis when dealing with opsec. the paranoia is real.
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Waste their time and money without breaking the law until they get bored and leave you alone.
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>>107553462
I'm not using marijuana. it's just hard not to be paranoid. I thought I made zero mistakes, and yet one day my laptop gets seized out of nowhere.
also it's very tough to ignore it all and just start living normally after everything that happened, especially using your laptop like usual after it was inspected for weeks.
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>>107552318
destroy it. It's not paranoia if they're really out to get you
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>>107552318
it is, all (((portable))) devices are, after all. they are watching you and your family, theres no escape, they are plugged on your router, working with your isp, and mobile data provider and hearing you through your walls.

good luck, you'll need it.
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>>107553462
>>107553539
also made me wonder why they would seize only the laptop and not all my other devices
>>107553612
:)
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If they didn't van you already, and you did nothing much wrong, they don't care. Fuhgeddaboudit.
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>>107553548
>It's not paranoia if they're really out to get you
Actually just because you're paranoid DOESN'T mean they're not out to get you. (((They))) clearly are.
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>>107553539
>it's just hard not to be paranoid.
I've been accused of being 'paranoid'. But when consistently, you turn out to be provably correct, is it paranoia?
Folk accuse me of foil hattery, I tell 'em don't be stupid. You want a mylar-lined armadillo helmet.

>I thought I made zero mistakes
I will put my money on multiple.

>and yet one day my laptop gets seized out of nowhere.
Not outta nowhere. Bullshit doesn't just happen. Cause and effect. Tangible, tracable threads.

>especially using your laptop like usual after it was inspected for weeks.
Not an incredibly long time, usually these sorts of institutions are backlogged with cases...
It may be different there.

If you actually want help, y'gonna need to be 'relatively' honest... It is phrased this way for a reason.

Who, took what, under what premise?

For a good example, I personally had my local council 'eager' to return funds they owe me. Six weeks into them being eager, I grew impatient. I may even have become unreasonable.

They blocked my email.

I created a few dozen gmail accounts, tapped over to the spreadsheet and once I've got something that can execute code automated some messages: You can give me my money now.

Every ten min.
They called the police, who turned up six weeks later to impound all my hardware. Got up here, decided they CBA to go get a bigger truck and just take the netbook off the coffee table in the living room (large fails: Wasn't the target machine. That was in secured storage before they had me in a cell. They didn't want my machines, that can only prove I visited gmail. They want google's logs...).
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>>107554704

They kept this for 3x years, few week under, before they even looked at it. Their "investigation" consisted of throwing it at a 'CSAM Specialist' who apparently cloned my drive (standard forensic practice) and proceded to locate a NTFS partition. My temp download directory, actually shared... Completely missed the LUKS with the OS, and my /home.

The tool of favour appeared to be avast, from winhoes, modified with a fingerprint list for CSAM.
The "worst" thing they had on me when we walked into the courtroom was a 2GB .txt file of common passwords. Incorrectly diagnosed as a "sendmail exploit". And trivially deflected with "You augment this to the system dictionary to prevent users from creating a password that *will* be attempted autonomously".

I swear. If I wasn't standing there saying: I did this.
They wouldn't have been able to prove it. As it happens, it didn't matter much either. Suddenly with a judge paying attention, the council actually paid me, and after I sucessfully proved a system setup and designed to recieve email isn't functionally harmed by recieving email, that took a lot of brunt. They pointed: Waaa. 3million.
I didn't even need to stamp on that one. Judge did it for me: Over what timeframe? Why did you not block them?
They were, but then we diverted them to count them.
Self-invalidated...
They kept rotating charge after charge, tho. When it got low enough I let them think they score a win. Comes down to assigning restrictions to my conduct, I threw far too much real world at that for them to cope. Ended up definining my own restrictions for them. Needlessly to say, that wasn't inconveniencing me any.

But when they had my netbook, they was that confident of a conviction they nuked it and installed some backdoored *nix.
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>>107554773
Or. Tried. I really not worked out how they've fucked this up. This bad.

The /boot is 400kb of partition. Containing a 4.2GB .iso.
I had to hexeditor that motherfucker out of there, the data is intact.
Needless to say, that doesn't boot. But extracting the *.iso it's IIRC a RAT'd 'buntu they was using, some off the shelf commercial tool they was drastically overcharged on the license for.
And in the configs was login credentials...

Unfortunately, everything on that drive was now toast. At some point I need to clone that off, tho, and fire up the ol hex editor and get that original partition table rebuilt, and just hope that my /home is far enough across the platter to be unhammered...
I was far too foilhat to back up the seed phrase for the wallet with 9BTC... But they might still be there..
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>>107554773
>>107554824
what country?
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>>107552318
Well you're fucked now because they have seen your post.
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>>107552318
You shouldn't destroy the sevice if you are going to get a lawyer. You need to have proof of your own innocence.
This thread is obviously a fantasist thread made by some 14 yr old jerk off.
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>>107555492
*device
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>>107555492
>You shouldn't destroy the device if you are going to get a lawyer. You need to have proof of your own innocence.
there's this thing called 'plausible deniability'
nice try glowie
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>>107552521
Pedobear is everywhere



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