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>post thread on 4chan
>24 hours later
>check thread
>0 replies
>thread archived

This site is dead
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>take dump on sidewalk
>everyone walk around it
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its all AI bots arguing with each other now
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>my content is uninteresting
>the site is... le dead!
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>>107555420
>>107555466
>>107555528
Thanks for replying owo
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>>107555606
<3
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>>107555413
Yeah, all boards have become rather slow/inactive lately. Primarily a consequence of the hack, but also due in part by dissatisfaction with moderation over the years. There's also the fact that those most knowledgeable about certain topics have simply moved on--either to other imageboards or offline entirely.
>>107555466
It's normalfags, underageb&s and third worlders, but there's not much difference desu.
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lol
lmao
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>finally find a thread with an interesting topic that has a healthy discussion
>reply with with a well thought out response
>thread immediately dies with no further posts
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I barely even able to post anymore. My ISP is banned, mobile data is banned, all cheap data centers are banned as well. I have to use some weird ass furry proxy website to post anything.
No, I am not going to buy proxies or pass lmao fuck this shithole.
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>>107555413
The internet is dead, you'll get used to it
Enjoy your AI generated userbase, operated by saars and kikes
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>>107555528
It is. 10 years ago there would be atleast a dozen post calling OP a fag.
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>>107555934
tried to take the moral highground award
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>>107555413
>This site is dead
It actually is going to be in a few years at this rate. 4stats is down to under 600k ppd.
Fucking grim. But I guess it's the only way I'm going to stop coming here, considering how bad every other site has become.
>>107555664
>to other imageboards
LLM tier reply. They are all fucking dead too.
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>>107555934
why does bro try to moralfag on a child abuse subsection of a cbinese cartoon gooning website?
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>>107555750
so on average there's slightly more users than in 2008 but of course now we have more shitposters, indians, bots, etc. 4chan truly is dying
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>post thread on /g/
>"you are brown"
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>>107556120
just stop being brown
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>>107556128
I'm trying
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How do you all even cope with the botted web? I try to be ignorance is bliss about it, but a lot of times, it's too noticeable to ignore, and I'm too addicted to live in the offline world 24/7. It sucks
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yeah because everyone is chatting with Grok
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>>107556139
touch grass
you're worse than the fent zombies in big cities
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>>107556006
>LLM tier reply.
You are absolutely correct! Although 4chan has lost users due to dissatisfaction with its moderation, other imageboards have small, tight-knit userbases, some of which may have issues with moderation themselves, so it wouldn't be logical to move to a less active imageboard.

Would you like me to provide you with a list of the most active alternative imageboards?
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>>107555413
they ruined it
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>>107556155
>Would you like me to provide you with a list of the most active alternative imageboards?
Yes please!
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>>107555413
The real reason is that 4chan's user base has 0 growth and is constantly aging thanks to its aggressively elitist attitude towards new users. This means everyone here keeps getting older and many naturally end up moving on from the website.
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>>107555750
The fact it has not grown at all since 2010 means it is dying. Internet users grew exponentially in this time frame.
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>>107555466
bots can niggerpost too, not all of them have guardrails
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>>107556167
>posts/day = visits/day
posts have nearly doubled minus outliers and this doesn't show the true scope of a websites popularity. The hacker 4chan is feared, so there are always more lurkers than posters.
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>>107555413
>he doesn't bot his own thread to keep it at the top of the catalog
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>>107556202
lmao, go back to bed gramps, 4cuck is barely ACKnowledged even by reddit nowadays
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>>107556223
>even by reddit
kek
Knew it.
Go back plebbitor.
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>>107556227
>no saar im not the plebbitor YOU are
forgot your dementia pills again?
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>>107555413
if it's not bait or attention grabbing it will be ignored, in my experience effort posts usually get ignored in favor of short and simple text
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>>107556236
>Do not redeem my reddit acknowledgement, sarrrr. Y u redeem blooddy
I'm sure the glownigger strategy to mention pills will save face now.
Absolutely wrecked your demoralization discord tranny.
Time for a new strategy.
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>>107556227
didnt like reddit used to be obsessed with 4chud or whatever though
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>>107556163
That's cope. It's more that the communities we found 4chan though no longer exist.
The internet now is entirely about some machine force-feeding slop to retarded cattle, and 4chan doesn't fit into that in any way.
>>107556167
>Internet users grew exponentially in this time frame.
You think that because you are brown and stupid. Every first-world country had practically universal internet access by 2010.
Also 4chan grew massively during gamergate and the 2016 election. /pol/ literally didn't exist in 2010.
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>>107555413
Maybe stop posting stupid shit, fuckface.
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>>107556249
>still falling for the "XAAR 4COCK IS HONEYPOT SAAR THEY WANNA ARREST U SAAR" meme despite evidence of this website being deader than in more than 15 years ago
this kinda denial reeks of reddit
just sayan bro
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>>107555413
even pol is dying kek
/v/ is just shitposting about the same 3 mid games over and over
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>>107556261
I have no fucking idea. I think there are subreddits entirely based on 4chinz.
Fuck you for making me look
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>>107556283
>Claim without evidence and the very charts in the thread show nearly double posts/day for /g/
K.
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>two redditors calling the each other filthy redditors
lol
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>>107556321
Damn. I was baited into a plebbitor.
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>>107555413
You have to use certain phrases and words to trigger bot responses.
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>>107556427
What are these phrases and words?
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>>107556448
> do ___ really
> why are ___ like this
> why do ___
> why don't ___
> why does ___
> really makes you think
> *drops mic*
> *mic drop*
> what's his name again?
> say. his. name.
> say his name
> name my band
> taps
> be honest
> admit it
> face it
> .
> Well?
> Thoughts?
> reminder ___
> oh no no no
> now that the dust has settled,
> who was in the wrong here
> damn thats crazy
> he's right, you know
> none of your problems ___
> simple as.
> this. so much this.
> respond to this without sounding mad
> how do you respond without sounding mad
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>>107556477
this is just typical ragebait bots. How does it trigger the bots? Most of those that participate just seem like retards or trolls, not bots.
Are all NPC and bait threads bots now?
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>>107556477
you forgot the most important one of all
>use case?
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>>107556223
>>107556261
I'm so old I remember reddit relentlessly shilled here, back when it was made. Everyone made fun of it for being shit.
Also, there was that other knockoff site, I can't remember its name. Anontalk or something.
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>>107555413
i had the exact same thing happen to me in 2013/2014/2015/2016... the site has been dead for 12 years by your logic.
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>>107556477
let's not forget blatant political bait, such as phrases like woke
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>>107556202
holy cope botman
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>>107555413
it's been noticeably slower
4stats is partially dead so i can
t even check how much
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>>107556580
>The numbers aren't real
more useless plebbitors.
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>>107555413
sorry, chud. I guess the chatbots didn't think you were worthy of a response in your thread.
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>>107556580
holy rope fagman
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>>107555919
Every time
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>>107555413
you're better off discussing technology at golang gay meetups than here. More insight.
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>>107556134
Try harder.

>>107556139
Just consider yourself one of the select few who can see through the veil of lies. It's good for your ego. And somehow, even with all the shills and the bots, this website is still less of a cancer than all the rest of the internet combined, since you still have the option to ignore and filter them out if you wish.
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>>107556193
This. Guardrails are for peasants only.
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>>107556193
Even 4chan bots are superior to the other bots. That's why they keep using this website to train AI despite all of its problems.
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>>107555750
It's poetic that 4chan started crashing and burning together with the German Leopards, American Bradleys and British Challengers in the Great Counteroffensive of 2023.

Or does anyone remember any other big happening mid 2023?
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>>107557173
True, you start to notice patterns over time, but it's quite demoralizing to sift through it all when it's so prevalent. I can't help but wonder if it's only the obvious ones I'm seeing through, while others are better trained and do a better job of blending in. It must be easy to do when many act very npc like.
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All (((Western))) platforms are dead and their governments bet the whole wealth of their countries on chat bots.

The better question is:
Where the fuck is a Chinese, Russian, North Korean, etc. platform to move to?
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>>107555413
I guaranfuckingtee you your shitass thread was a stupid question that should have been asked in /sqt/, or better yet asked in your favorite LLM service. Fuck off.
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>>107556477
Get em ready boys, new filter list just dropped.
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Come to think of it, I haven't seen a Brave shill thread in awhile.
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>>107556477
feels good knowing i have many of these filtered already, but they'll just add filler words to their dataset to bypass it
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>reddit slang like "NTA" being widely used everywhere
>nobody calls out newfigs anymore
>irrelevant bans
>software is outdated
>moderation is likely working with feds
>gatekeeping is nonexistent
>almost no memetic force anymore
>tiresome overlap with every other centralized internet site with twitter, facebook, reddit, and news posts dominating every vector of speech
>popular boards neutered by various agencies, satellite discords, educational research divisions, and advertising agencies using bots or brigades
Its quite tiresome.
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>>107557375
>newfigs
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>>107557375
>newfigs
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>>107557375
Trannies were necking from the memes so memes got banned.
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>>107557375
>newfigs
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>>107557375
>guardrails
>>107556193
>>107557213
>>107557250
You faggots lied. Fuckin newfigs.
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>>107557375
>all of those words
>zero mention of the child porn
not very good at hiding it, are you?
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>>107555664

over moderation killed 4chan, on top of the atrocious captcha system (currently waiting 2 minutes so I can post this, lmao lol even).

Twitter has more freedom than 4chan now

>be 4channer
>post
>get banned

it has gotten tiresome

inb4 banned for "complaining about moderation", it's literally a rule
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>>107555413
Technology for this feel?
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>>107557584
The moderation system is fundamentally flawed.
What happens is reported posts are added to a list and Jannies decide what to do on a per-post basis.
This leads to a major blind spot: All a troll has to do is spread out what would be bannable in one post into separate posts which look passable with the context removed.
Jannies also have a blind spot to recurring trolls in generals (hence the term "resident schizo"). They are clueless about the inner nuances of the board because there is no way for us to communicate with them. Picrel is a troll that has been in /dmp/ for nearly two years attacking everyone and he rarely if ever gets banned.
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>>107557754
AI slop ain't helping either
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>>107557271
It's very easy for bots to imitate the typical 4chan post, the only way to know if you're talking to a human or not is to try to see if your interlocutor has a soul. A bot (human or machine, it doesn't matter) will never, ever admit that he's possibly wrong.

>>107557450
Nah, there are still ways to post sincere content. But shitposting is fine too, in moderation.
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4chan used to be cool because you could be edgy as a joke, then all the redditor rightwing chuds flooded in after their subreddits got banned and it stopped being fun because they are just too dumb to understand what irony is.
So at that point why would a normal person even go to this set anymore if all of the other stuff is a lot more modern and they are surrounded by imbeciles here?
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>>107557911
>Its like they want to make posting here as difficult and painful as possible.
That's the challenge, having an accountless imageboard is becoming harder and harder because of bots proliferating, making these measures necessary. They only way forward for 4chan might be to bite the bullet and add accounts (there already are de facto accounts with email verification anyway).
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>>107557937
I would not participate if that were the case.
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Also
>posting NSFW images so jannies will see your post
clever
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>>107555528
Wrong. In many cases the content is irrelevant outside of how much rage bait it causes. That's why people lazily repost Twitter garbage here all the time because it's guaranteed (You)s from at least a few anons complaining about Twitter screenshots on top of the fact that Twitter posting is all engagement bait garbage.
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>>107557958
It's almost like a new anti-socmed screenshot global rule should be made or something.
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>>107557937
Bots aren't really a thing thats mostly just all the resident shizos having mental breakdowns like when they claim everyone is a samefag. You underestimate just how fucked up some people are, there are so many anons on every board who literally post the same thing every day because they think they are on some crusade instead of just admitting they are mentally ill.
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>>107557937
No that's cope, I'm literally posting from a proxyserivce because its unironically easier to use 4chan w/o the humiliation rituals of captchas and 900sec cooldowns that don't work anyway.
Also no-one using 4chan to bot misinfo at least in the conventional sense. What would be the point?
>>107557951
If anything I'm flattering them.
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>>107555664
>>There's also the fact that those most knowledgeable about certain topics have simply moved on--either to other imageboards or offline entirely.

I remember back in the days how many cool stuff you could read here or even on /x/ just by lurking at any time of the day. Sometimes I wonder why they stopped coming back altogether
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>>107558006
I mean 4chan was always a sea of piss but there were gems on that beach if you looked. I found plenty of games, useful tech advice, dyi projects, anime/show and art that I otherwise would not have found.
I don't think 4chan is a good place to waste time on but its crazy to think that 4chan is LESS brainrot than what we have now with modern social media shit like tiktok and xitter.
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>>107557988
>>107558005
>Also no-one using 4chan to bot misinfo at least in the conventional sense
Yeah maybe I'm wrong about that. But surely there is a reason for all the cooldowns being added? Also, with captchas being auto-solvable with AI, there really is no limit to what bad actors can do.
>>107557988
>resident shizos having mental breakdowns like when they claim everyone is a samefag
Too damn right, this sounds exactly like the /dmp/ schizo. I don't even know if you use /dmp/, the problem is so widespread (the Iranian on /dpt/, etc).
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>>107557971
Would make too much sense...
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>>107557945
But heres the thing, where would you run to? Every other place demands accounts already. And altchans are dead.
Would you just abandon the internet?
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>>107558047
(Cont.)
The payoff for shill bots (if they exist) can be very profitable. The value of an ad is, give or take, 1 cent per view. Let's say after a day of an AI bot shilling, 1000 anons saw it's posts. You're looking at thousands of dollars over the course of the year, for a single bot which is cheap to run.
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>>107558090
I likely would abandon the internet for meshnets, lora, i2p or something more distributed and accountless shows up. 4chan is already the only socmed I engage in at all. If it goes to accounts, I'll end up lurking only while perusing other options. It's really a big deal either way. I enjoy it a lot of the time, but all in all, I can take it or leave it.
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>>107558141
>not a big deal either way.
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>>107558047
>Too damn right, this sounds exactly like the /dmp/ schizo. I don't even know if you use /dmp/, the problem is so widespread
Because thats the thing, given enough time every general gets their own schizos that everyone else hates but cant remove since technically theyre not breaking any rules.
Even nsfw boards' generals do. And thats without mentioning the board wide schizos.
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>>107558180
I don't know if it's happening right now, or if it is, to what extent. But we should be concerned because current technology makes is so easy to automate such a thing.
Keep in mind that $5000 is worth a lot more in places like southeast asia than in the west.
On the other hand, 4chan might be too dead for anyone to care about botting here.
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>>107555750
why does mine look different?
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>>107556120
Sounds like saar forgot to redeem the needful lmao
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>>107556158
https://allchans.org/

>>107556139
I have friends that I visit outside. They're all alcoholic barflies. It's honestly not that much better. As 4chan's audience gets older, more and more people we know are getting married and having kids. We can't hang out with them any more. 4chan is all we have left.
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>>107557375
Fucking Newfigs and their AI guardrails.
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>>107555750
I been on this fucking shithole site since 2006 and I never bought bitcoin. Why didn't I fucking buy 2000 and forget about it until 2021 or something. FUCK MAN.
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>>107557852
I don't think this is the main problem, but you're right that it's a factor. It's fun to say nigger, we all agree on that, but there comes a point where you've said nigger and it's time to do something else.
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>>107558005
>Also no-one using 4chan to bot misinfo at least in the conventional sense. What would be the point?
Influencing AI data training. I'm dead serious, look it up. Also this >>107558104



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