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>use case for HDR
>use case for 4K
>use case for high refresh rate
SHUT THE FUCK UP.

It's not my fault you are a broke code monkey college student that's going to get replaced by AI in 5 years. These technologies make everything better.
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Incredibly weak bait that will still get 100 replies because this board is retarded. 3/10 try harder next time. thx
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>>107561278
60Hz looks better than the rest so what are you trying to show us again
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>>107561278
>no neets
>no browns
Be like 2 dudes trying to fill a catalog.
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>>107561296
>this passes as a 3/10
Bait really isn't what it used to be.
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>>107561278
>>use case for HDR
broken on windows even more broken on linux
>>use case for 4K
non-uniform app scaling on windows absolute shitshow on linux
>>use case for high refresh rate
60Hz CRT still remains the unbroken peak of motion clarity
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Why is 120 Hz ahead of 144?
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>>107561278
>got a KTC M27P6, recommended in the (PC build general) 4k, HDR, 160Hz
>colors worse than my ancient 144Hz 1080p Acer
WAOW, so that's the power of money and technology. fuck off, retard
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>>107561916
>listening to /g/tards
>listening to /g/tards in one of the retard containment threads telling you to buy some literal fucking who chinesium monitor
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>>107561422
what's a minbroken crtroon to do but lie and repost ancient misconceptions
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>>107561954
>480Hz
>still blurry trash
cope
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>>107561964
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>>107561954
Yes, because every piece of software and context runs at 480fps
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resolution matters less than pixel density and viewing distance
hdr requires heavy work for it to even be viable and as an end user i don't want to run my oled and burn it in for no real benefit, i want my screen darker
more than 250hz isn't really perceivable since the speed something needs to move at to benefit from that clarity is way faster than the eye can even latch on
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>>107562403
Irrelevant, if you're uninformed don't voice your opinion, it's that simple
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>>107562558
If you are so informed enlighten us with your sacred wisdom. How exactly does a 480hz monitor help me when my content is 60fps
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wanting your screen to hurt your eyes is dumb
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>>107561278
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no pain no gain
posted from my AlphaSmart 3000
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>>107561278
I bought a phone with high refresh rate, first thing I've done is enabled power-saving to limit it to 60Hz because I could barely see a difference when I looked at it very hard and yet even though I could not see it, my brain was going "reee 120Hz is unnatural, we have to go back".

Heck, even then 60 FPS really only works for games, 60 FPS with movies makes them look retarded as fuck. I don't get it why y'all niggers need more.
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>>107562972
because unlike you we're not actually niggers
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>>107561422
>broken on windows
Not since 11, you can use a custom SDR to HDR curve too.
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>>107562986
I feel more like that with every passing day.
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>>107561278
>tfw only 144Hz
uwu
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>>107563085
Fucking poorfag.
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>>107563090
I know... Best my LG C5 can do.
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>>107563001
Yeah, proove you can see more than 60 FPS. You can't, it's made up fake shit
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>>107561422
One on the right is 10 times cheaper, uses 10 times less energy and doesn't suffer from color bleed.
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>>107563123
Who gives a shit, not even the reasons people use CRTs or panels.
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>>107561916
did you go through all the settings?
that doesn't seem right, by all the numbers that screen is great
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>>107561278
>high refresh on sample and hold displays
lol
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>>107561987
All he was offering was the truth.
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>>107563215
>Your point? Muh motion clarity? You realize why high refresh is important?
It's bait you tard
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>>107561278
Can we also ban oldfags that still recommend CRTs because they have such poor vision they can't see anything better than 720p?

And and the aifags that have a dozen different general boards for the same fucking thing?

Oh, and the ones that say tranny so much they sound like a fucking edgelord pokemon.
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CRT fags still coping over this?

https://blurbusters.com/crt-simulation-in-a-gpu-shader-looks-better-than-bfi/
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>>107563231
Based, at 480Hz on an OLED it looks really good.
t. tried in store
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>>107563237
Even at 120Hz it helps already.
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>>107563237
>in store
lol
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>>107563244
I have an OLED, just not one capable of 480Hz, the only ones aviable are the ones that run 4k 240Hz or 1080p 480Hz.
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>>107563251
>aviable
available*
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>>107563251
That's a DP limitation tho?
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>>107563231
Why would people cope over a cope shader?
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>>107563304
Ask them
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>>107563304
No idea, who knows what goes on in the head of a CRT nigger (not to be confused with a chad CRT user).
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>>107563304
Software solutions are more flexible then hardware ones.
With VRR, it would make zero difference and in this case the hardware solution would actually be worse, would only work with v-sync and actually adds latency.
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>>107563385
>>Software solutions are more flexible then hardware ones.
>>With VRR, it would make zero difference and in this case the hardware solution would actually be worse, would only work with v-sync and actually adds latency.
>replying seriously to obvious bait
why
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>>107563395
Bored.
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>>107563177
yeah. the root of the problem is the brightness. with default settings it's a lot darker than my old monitor. after enabling HDR and setting local dimming to low, the bright areas look as bright as on my old monitor, but the blacks aren't as dark. in addition there's some weird stuff going with bright areas on dark background. they aren't as bright as they should be (subtitles on a black bar for example). I guess this is local dimming related, but without HDR and local dimming it looks like absolute shit
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>>107561916
>>107563177
>>107563417
It's a small IPS screen with shitall dimming zones, it will look awful with HDR no matter what you do.
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>>107563436
This. Only OLED and bigger MiniLED can do proper HDR. Fact (for the time being).
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>>107561278
the human eyes can't see more than 30 fps
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>>107563448
Bro just switch on FG in your head!
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>>107561916
It's probably a broken unit or more likely you have no idea what you're doing and fucked up the configuration somehow. The latter is VASTLY more likely.
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>>107563472
>the configuration
there aren't many settings to play with
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>>107563504
What on the PC side?
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>>107563527
enabling HDR in windows. what else is there that could be related?
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>>107563542
Calculate your Windows SDR to HDR brightness slider and set it to that.
Maybe run HDR calibration?
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>>107563542
First trap for the ignorant. HDR in Windows uses a bad gamma curve for SDR (desktop) to HDR conversion and the result is raised black levels basically, it makes the entire image look low contrast and washed out and it's not the monitor's fault.
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>>107563583
This is only in games / media and only if you don't use AutoHDR (sucks), RTX HDR or your own wrappers (for games that don't support HDR).

You can use a custom curve, but it's pointless for actual HDR content.
https://github.com/dylanraga/win11hdr-srgb-to-gamma2.2-icm
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>>107563656
>This is only in games / media
No, it happens in all SDR to HDR conversions that Windows does, like on the desktop and for any normal program running in sRGB / SDR but displayed with HDR enabled. It fucks everything up.
>AutoHDR (sucks)
Yeah it does, it also has raised gamma and raised blacks for some godforsaken reason and it sucks that it's not adjustable. RTX HDR can indeed be configured to output an image with correct gamma and of course so will native HDR implementations in games, properly made / configured wrappers and video players with proper HDR support.

>You can use a custom curve, but it's pointless for actual HDR content.
It's worse than pointless, because if you use color correction to fix it then you can actually fuck up some of the programs which would otherwise output correct HDR instead (you will get crushed blacks in them). You'd need to turn the color correction on and of depending on what you're viewing, which is a pain.

Frankly the whole SDR to HDR conversion situation in Windows is such a fucking shitshow I just recommend turning HDR on ONLY for actual HDR content and sending SDR as-is to your monitor, which will display it correctly (assuming you've got it in the right color space so it clamps to sRGB). It sucks that you have to twiddle with settings no matter what but it is what it is in the end, better than getting a bad picture in some situations.
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>>107563915
I'm running always on HDR on an OLED with hardware calibrated display profiles for both SDR and HDR, plus system wide RTX HDR (+video). Looks and works like a treat.
So I can't really relate to the pain.
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>>107561278
use case for this thread?
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>>107564043
Shitposting
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>>107563989
Then you're almost certainly getting a fucked up, incorrect image if you're relying on Windows to do SDR to HDR tone mapping. OLED is entirely irrelevant because it's not the monitor doing the conversion or something, Windows is going to output incorrect gamma no matter what screen you plug in. Still if you're happy with what you're seeing then all is good, if you're just consuming content and not doing color grading or making art yourself or something then it's fine if it looks good to your eyes.
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>>107561964
CRT needs to be flickering, neither are optimal and have their own set of issues.
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>>107564109
Don't know if something is helping it or not, but I can't tell any difference dragging SDR content between my main HDR monitor and secondary SDR one (which is a 5 year old professional IPS display, also hardware calibrated) outside of black obviously better on the OLED.

>OLED is entirely irrelevant
Just for additional information.
Considering the underlaying problem, I'm sure it would look even worse contrast wise on a display with limited backlight zones.
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>>107562821
whats the source for this and why isnt shit like this more popular

fuck jerking off to women getting fucked by other men i just want to see hot chicks who are talented at dancing, covered in oil
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>>107563448
here we go again with this retarded cope.
Literally anyone can compare a 30 hz monitor to even 120 and see a massive difference. People play competitive games at up to 360hz for a reason.
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>>107564203
>I can't tell any difference dragging SDR content between my main HDR monitor and secondary SDR one (which is a 5 year old professional IPS display
Not much of a surprise I'd say, if it's a bog standard IPS with no local dimming then the backlight bleed and IPS glow are probably so bad that the OLED would look better even with incorrect gamma and raised blacks.

>Considering the underlaying problem, I'm sure it would look even worse contrast wise on a display with limited backlight zones.
Depends on the scenes, if it's something that really brings out the haloing then yes, definitely. If it's a very bright scene instead, then probably not because raised blacks wouldn't be much of a problem and the LCD screen would be able to sustain much superior full-screen brightness. All these things come with their own sets of shitty caveats.
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>>107564301
>Not much of a surprise I'd say, if it's a bog standard IPS with no local dimming then the backlight bleed and IPS glow are probably so bad that the OLED would look better even with incorrect gamma and raised blacks.
Well it's still SDR content, so basically it's displaying as it's supposed to, if you can't even tell it apart from a pro grade non-HDR display.
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>>107563231
so how the fuck do i use this besides buying the $20 program on steam
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>>107564346
It's a shader, what do you have to buy from Steam?
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>>107564353
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3448910/Vint_Realtime_Video_Interpolation_and_CRT_Emulation/
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>>107564353
oh i recognize this file extension. i guess you load it into reshade right? i never really got too familiar with how reshade works
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>>107564382
Topkek
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>>107561278
usecases?
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>>107561916
>ktc
never heard of this brand
you got trolled
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>>107562972
>my brain was going "reee 120Hz is unnatural, we have to go back".
this is why I have a preset in mpv that downgrades 60fps videos to 30
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>>107562986
>>107563065
Meant what?



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