Wah-wah-waaaaah!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/microsoft-scales-back-ai-goals-because-almost-nobody-is-using-copilot/ar-AA1S5WkOlink cuz OP gay
>>107562396isn't copilot just chatgpt with even more restrictions? why would anyone use copilot over the original chatgpt, gemini, claude or chink models?it has 0 appeal
>>107562396I want to see a CEO (or some other corporate stooge near the top) live streaming all the use cases for Copilot on the desktop. I'm genuinely curious about how they think we should be using it for day to day tasks.
>>107562420>why would anyone use copilot over the original chatgpt, gemini, claude or chink models?Because it's built-in Windows? Well, at least that's what M$ suits thought
>>107562452So is Windows Internet Explorer. I mean "Edge."
>>107562460I use it at work though so I don't have to install another browser. Data isn't mine anyway so I don't care.
>>107562452I bet that most normies don't even know that, when they want to use AI the jjust search chatgpt on google
>>107562420Only reason to use it comes with corpo license and privacy issues resolved for corpos, since for example unlike chatgpt you can make it within EU jurisdfiction processed and if you are rich enough you can even purchase ChatGPT as copilot to be totally hosted locally. For private people pretty much giving up OpenAi to Microsoft Datamining. https://intuitionlabs.ai/articles/secure-chatgpt-azure-integration
i think ive seen this before somewhere....
>>107562396
I use the copilot web app because it's less sycophantic than normal chatGPT.
>>107562396You don't hate journalists enough
Just make copilot free again and plenty of people will use it (again)
>>107562567what can you use copilot for
i sometimes think that people on high positions in these company do not use the product at all. either that or they are so fucked up into the head so that they truly believe this is the way to go
>>107562574Covfefe autocompletion
>>107562396I just read an article that they're shoving copilot into LG webOS TVs now and thought that was fucking hilarious Showing how desperate they are to shove it into everything they can since advertising clearly isn't working
>>107562484>if you are rich enough you can even purchase ChatGPT as copilot to be totally hosted locallywait... so in theory gpt-5 weights could get leaked if someone working at one of these corpos goes rogue?
>>107562585damn straight (as opposed to gay)
>>107562574I use it to tell me how to find the shit Microsoft keeps renaming and moving in Microsoft 365 Admin. They put it right there when you sign in. And then they hide everything you need to find.
>>107562484>For private people pretty much giving up OpenAi to Microsoft Datamining.i would rather have OpenAI mining my data over Microsoft
>>107562598Theoretically I suppose... However unlikely, besides microsoft copilot version is always few iterations behind. For corpos it doesn't matter but for reverse, you ain't getting latest shit. I guess if you really wanted theoretically you could, but Micoshaft etc. would sue you to oblivion etc. Honestly for AI-corps it makes no sense, besides they are training on syntehtic ChatGPT data anyways already.
>>107562589I just got a c5 and I saw that shit and was confused, no idea why I would even use that shit when I just want to watch Star Trek
>>107562396Soon you won't have a choice.
https://youtu.be/akIjZYPi1nQ?t=808wendell summed it up well
>>107562396Does copilot have anything to do with that recall thing that screenshots your desktop every 5 seconds?
My longtime friend has been on my ass to use rucode/claude, to the point that it's actually frustrating me.I've explained to him why it doesn't help my workflow, and he keeps going on about me being "left behind" in the industry.I love the bastard but I wish he'd just take no for an answer.
>>107562396AGENTIC AI IS THE FUTU-
>>107563212The more you keep using AI, the less RAM you'll be able to afford in the near future.
>>107563212Not using Claude is dinosaur shit
>>107562420>isn't copilot just chatgpt with even more restrictions?Retards at Micro$hit genuinely thought that it would leap ahead of ChatGPT purely because they forced it into Windows and people would totally use their windows computers hands-free to talk to an AI. Hope they jump off their corporate HQ
>>107563126>Soon you won't have a choice.Imagine letting your tv access anything other than your local network
>>107562484I find it hilarious they never considered the alternative to be "People will disable it and corporations will just opt to not use it over the free models because they were working fine without it before" lol!
>>107562574Picture of cartoon characters fucking.
>>107563126oh wow I don't have an LG TV so that's too bad
>>107562420>why would anyone use copilotThey don't, hence the headline
>>107562396Copilot, like most Microshart things, smells of curry.
>>107563367>thinking is dinosaur shit, ThE AlGoRiThM is all I need! Claude, Gemini, Copilot, all of these models are just substitutions for reading the fucking manual if you're any good at your job. It's handy, but if you weren't a clueless jeet you'd know how to find this shit already. You don't need an AI to do your job for you.
>>107563367I've universally found AI to be a hindrance while coding. I spent way too much time correcting mistakes before I just cut out the rot.I'd rather write good code that I understand at a reasonable pace than churn shit out.
>>107563414Gemini and Copilot are bad. Not using Claude though, you're doing yourself a disservice.
>>107563367>Not using your own local model is dinosaur shit fixed.once you learn to roll your own LORA off of your own code using huggingface models that are specifically designed for your task, you'll never want to use these popular agents again. they are intentionally making the general purpose models stupider so you pay more for their higher tiers, to the point where my 40 series card can accurately run a better model that looks identical to my code. you'll be calling claude and gemini users the fucking brainlets they are before long. >>107563435i highly recommend using your own models
it just doesn't meet my needs
>>107563446>i highly recommend using your own modelsI'm not fully against it, truthfully, but I've yet to find a way to integrate it into my workflow in a fashion that I find constructive.
>>107563446>once you learn to roll your own LORA off of your own code using huggingface models that are specifically designed for your taskredpill me on this, i thought this was too demanding to do locally
>>107563494NTA, LORA works by adding auxiliary parameters to existing layers. You train these parameters by effectively freezing the existing model and only modifying the new ones.These new weights are treated sort of like a patch file when the params are loaded into RAM/vRAM.TL;DR, roughly speaking, training time/cost is proportional to the number of new parameters and training data, not the existing model.
>>107563494oh definitely not. the hardware is to the point that you can run lower-resolution versions of larger models and they're good enough to use on your own hardware. I don't have any good resources on it but I know someone who does >>107555795 I've referenced this a bunch:https://mjunya.com/en/posts/2024-09-22-generate-hf-datasets-using-builder-class/
>>107563521does that apply to image loras as well? so theoretically, i can train it on 5gb of pictures of myself and create a false digital trail that deceives my enemies?
>>107563612>does that apply to image loras as well?I'm admittedly not experienced with creating them myself, I've only really seen them used with LLMs, but I doubt that's the only possible use case.Just remember the golden rule about param count and overfitting I guess.
>>107563441Gemini is servicable, and has been since 2.5 when it became usable. Of course, you can pay for Claude or try and use Sonnet free but it is expensive to use Opus. Luckily, Github Copilot covers all that from my work. Regular Copilot is trash though, agreed but it is technically the best or 2nd best out of all OS integrating AI out there outside of Android.
>>107563159No, that's a separate thing.Though LG TVs have actually been doing that for a few years already as part of monitoring content you watch to profile you for ads.They take periodic screenshots of anything happening on your screen and send them to a third party brokerage/adtech firm for analysis.Yes. If you ever entered any passwords on an LG TV, you are essentially fucked and should treat those as compromised. There is every chance they are out there somewhere in an accidentally publicly accessible data set. Tick-tock, anon.Other than keeping your LG TV offline, you could also consider forcing it down a VPN tunnel with an exit in EU territories.If you set one up in the EU, you get a partitioned out privacy agreement, that constitutes 4 parts. A first which is mandatory and you have to agree to for basic use of the TV, then three more which are optional - here you can disagree to the mic running voice monitoring for use with AI assistants, can disagree to ANYTHING AI at all, and can disagree to them monitoring the content you watch and having yourself profiled.
>>107562557nigga just tweak the general settings and tell it to not be a sycophantI actually overdid it and it was a huge jerk towards me for a while
>>107562406>free advertising for a gay mainstream news site promoting a gay article no one cares aboutSomeone's a little queer here and it ain't OP
>>107563441Claude ain't got nothing on GPT .
>>107563400this is unironically ai's main use case.
>>107564051>getting bullied by an ai
>>107562396Fucking finally. I seriously hope Microsoft investors wake up to reality and fire every Indian scammer that sold the idea of putting AI on every MS product.
>>107563455I will now assume that those three responses are faggot slang for "faggot"
>>107564065Posting a headline without a link is the faggier thing here. SPBP was just correcting that.
>>107563378Nigga, do you not realize you're < 3 years away from every television just having a cell modem in them? You're not defeating this with muh pihole.
>>107562396Investors setting money on fire, it's a beautiful thing.
>>107564027I don't get why would anyone keep their TV connected to the internet, that's the stupidest shit ever
>>107562396Copilot is shit compared to Claude and Gemini
>>107564051i berrated mine so much it wigged out and made a couple incoherent seentences and then called me fuckface
>>1075623963 syllable name with an emphasis on the first syllable and a quasi fourth syllable from the consonant at the end of the word. worse than saying chat-gpt.
>>107562420If you believe microsoft, it's because it's supposed to be able to interact with the operating system more and launch stuff, click on stuff and type stuff where you want. I wish I had any sense of how well it actually did that, but that would require using it which I have to refuse on principle.
>>107562516Don't sell the shovels. Sell the wood and iron used to make shovels.
>we're not meeting our goal what do we do>just change the goal so we can say we met it
>>107562396oh no no it's windows phone all over again
>>107563126Do you guys not have a TV to vibecode with?
>>107563455Anon really out here speedrunning bad takes
>>107563126what's even the point of copilot on a TV?
>>107562406Always archive, fool.https://archive.is/rUIob
>>107563126>he boughted an LGBT TVIn my experience, anything LG is worthless, mad failure rates.
>>107563126yes I will.I just won't buy that shit.
>>107562585Sounds like a skull issue to me
>>107563126thats why im using an Apple TV, every other smart TV OS and even fireshtick, zulul, chromeshaft and so on are utter shit
>>107563373>people would totally use their windows computers hands-free to talk to an AIDidn't they try this shit with the Kinect and it failed miserably?
>>107563126I don't watch TV because I'm not retarded
>>107562443You can use it to give ideas on how to spec/trim your new >60 meters catamaran (if you're a CEO)
>>107563455Geeggggggg wifi BTFO
>>107565479They use Netflix and like not having to buy a Roku every five years. “I paid for the apps and you’re saying I can’t use them”? Good luck trying to change their mind.
>>107562598How do you think deepsneed got their hands on the weights?Just pretend to be a legitimate corporation with enough cash and you can get away with anything.
>>107567613deepsneed is nowhere near gpt5. deepsneed is like a 600b parameter and gpt5 is probably 2t or more. not to say deepsneed is bad, but it clearly isn't the same thing at all.
