eventually im gonna buy a hosting and a domain with it but how.
>>107563381yeah (((they))) don't want you to buy it.But you can buy ltc and swap it with monero.
>>107563381and if you only have cash find a bitcoin atm and do the same
retoswap to swap your bitcoin/litecoin for xmrhaveno to get more xmr (it usually requires an initial xmr deposit)
>>107563381Your options:>1. Buy XMR via paying cash by mailRetoSwap/Haveno have this>2. Buy XMR directly from an exchangeThis works, but the government will know that you bought XMR, and the exchange WILL record which outputs they sent you, and they'll share that will the government as well. So in order to fully anonymize your coins, you have to 'churn' them by sending them to yourself a few times. >3. Buy LTC/BTC from an exchange, then swap them for XMR using a centralized swap serviceThe same thing applies as in the above case >4. Buy LTC/BTC from an exchange, then do an atomic swap for XMR using RetoSwap/HavenoThe problem is you already need a little bit of XMR to use as collateral for an atomic swap in most cases. This is more private because anybody can swap through these services and there's a low chance whoever you buy from is working with the government to record metadata about your transactions.
>>107563381If you're not a burger you can buy XMR directly from Bitfinex but they are a KYC exchange.
>>107563683If you're a burger then you can do the same with Kraken (also KYC)
>>107563409>ltcNo nothing of crypto, but why buy LTC when you can buy any coin and swap it for monero?
>>107563695because the best of these coins you can swap for monero is ltc ? (no fees, fast, easy to buy and swap from anywhere)
>>107563665Which would you recommend? It seems most option fuck you over with there being a high chance of the transaction being recorded, so why not save time and just buy from an exchange?
>>107563381Buy an ad.
>>107563381someordinarygamer made a video about how to do it recently. i was going to link it, but he refuses to use video titles that aren't vague bait. go search for it if you want.
>>107563381>buy hosting with it>get one abuse email sent to the host>get shut down with no recoursethanks
>>107563731>Buy an ad.
You can buy Monero on Kraken crypto exchange.
>>107563381Mine it. Trade electricity for XMR and use your utility company as the proxy
>>107563665>>107563728Just buy from the exchange. Here are some general best practices for better privacy:>run your own node>configure your daemon/wallet to use Tor>don't spend all your coins at once (e.g. don't withdraw 0.033354 XMR from the exchange then deposit 0.033354 XMR elsewhere)>churn a few times to increase the anonymity setIn the future, Monero will use full chain membership proofs to essentially increase the ring size to infinity so no more churning will be needed, but right now, XMR's biggest chainalysis vulnerability is the EAE attack, which requires the cooperation of exchanges and services
as a burger. how do you buy gripto without kyc?even if you use a non kyc exchange you will have to use a kyc exchange to onramp your money right?
>>107565185Under federal law, it seems you can buy it with cash and no KYC for small amounts. It's about the same limit as getting a money order with no ID. Money transmitters aren't required to KYC people for such small amounts.Of course many 'bitcoin ATMs' that let you insert cash to buy crypto are much more restrictive than the law strictly requires. Probably because it'll sound good if a court case ever comes up. 'Your honor, our policy goes above and beyond the requirements set by Congress/regulations,' etc etc.Never mind that buying and selling something is not 'money transmission,' but nobody wants to have to prove that in court at great expense.t. former BTM operator>the enforcement for FinCEN flew in their leading expert and told us that a company that sends or sells bitcoin in any way or for any reason is a money transmitter.>We disagreed then, and do now. They define a Bitcoin transaction as "sending a substitute for real currency to and through many places (all nodes) to arrive at the receivers wallet.">They are wrong primarily because a Bitcoin tx does not contain any BTC. It's a request form that nodes document and miners approve, then nodes allocate BTC without moving units.>bitcoin never moves location, any change in ownership is not an effect of transport where a third party is in possession.> Unfortunately any case that has been seen as a threat to the narrative has been offered almost unbelievably lenient plea deals. This is why there's no case law on the subject. The DoJ uses a false premise to begin any case about what Bitcoin is that includes how it's sent.
>>107563381Just sent you a DM
>>107565185CoinATMRadar shows cash on-ramps in your area.
>>107563741The type of host that accepts XMR as payment is probably a pretty atypical host tbhdesu
>>107565815There's quite a few, and despite accepting XMR and being "privacy-friendly", for the most part they follow the law and will shut you down if you try to run an illegal darknet market or CP forum, at least as far as their ToS goes. https://kycnot.me/?categories=hosting&verification=verified&verification=approved&verification=community
>>107563381Look up nowhere.moe and follow the onion link. He explains
>>107563665>you have to 'churn' them by sending them to yourself a few times.This is superstition and you don't know what you're talking about. Churning won't affect an EAE attack much. Monero can be traced in a way similar to cash. Just make sure you use your own node and it won't be egregiously bad.I'll put it this way:Say that for transaction that has 13 inputs, and each of those has 13 inputs that created them, we could generate a tree of arbitrary depth representing this chain of decoysAssume that there is an output known to be created by/for John Doe used as a decoy in 1/1000 of all 2-depth-layer transaction trees (we know it was made for John Doe because he gave us his ID)If I sign up to exchange B and send it an output, and a John Doe exists in the 2-depth-layer tree associated with that output, then he expects to not see another such transaction from me until i've sent another ~1000 transactions. The chance that I make 2 transactions with both containing a John Doe within those 2 depth layers is 0.1%Of course, if you have an exchange with many accounts and transactions, 0.1% events happen very often, so it's a false positive. But if enough of these mistakes pile up and get associated with each other then the analysis can offset the false positive rate and become useful. Now we can investigate John Doe to find out how he is related to the money trail that resulted in these monero ending up at this exchange, if needed.
>>107563381Did you finally get chatGPT to teach you how to ransomware, jeet?
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