Why are they taking away our optical drives?
>>107563812??
>>107563812Because they charge $300 for a 4K Bluray player that couldn't even burn a disc while PS4 costs $400.
>bought an external USB BD/DVD-RW drive "just in case">have never once used itmeds.
4 GB of storage is a bit too small, an sd card has 16 times more capacity.
>>107563885I have a bunch of family photos stored in my 20 years old CD. It's nice to know that it would not disappear any time soon due to flash storage being an ass.
>>107563812You will own nothing, goyim.
>>107563885I got sent one instead of the $5 keyboard that I ordered. they told me to keep it and sent the right thing.
>>107563812Honest question: What's the use case, apart from imagining old media?
>>107563960So that you could own your software and later sell it. We should have 1tb blu ray discs by now in our computers.
>>107563960Cold storage.
>>107564024You don't own it even if it's on plastic. You license it, unless you are a FOSS chad.>>107564033Tapes, HDDs, etc.
>>107563812it gives too much ownership into your hands, they want to sell you subscriptions instead
>>107563812My table has a build in optical drive.
>>107564482If that was true then USB and TF/SD cards would be kill too. They're faster than CDs and don't require as many mechanical components which saves costs and resources. If CDs were faster and had higher storage capacities then it would be more dire.
>>107564570What media comes on USB or SD cards? Movies? Music?
>>107563960Having 5.25" and 3.5" drive bays are pretty useful for expanding front IO if your case isn't that great.There's a lot of massive PC cases out there that are strictly for cooling which is fine, but it would be nice if they let you customize them more like you could back in the day.
>>107564570They killed media card slot inclusion in PCs for some reason. You have to look for a good USB hub that won't fry them these days.
>>107563812Is there a (non-niche) need for internal optical drives anymore? I haven't used my external DVD drive in over a year, if it were an internal drive it would just be sitting there just doing nothing and taking up space 99% of the time.
>>107564708Yep they are. My 25 year old case has front USB C thanks to those drive bays. Unironically has better front IO than most new cases, since it has usb c and usb a plus card readers thanks to those front panels.
>>107563812Same reason they "took away" that 3.5". USB drivers are good enough and ubiquitous enough that you don't need a SHTF drive anymore.
>>107564708>>107564866I've integrated all that shit into my table kek. I have a cutout with a 3.5" card reader like your pic under the edge of my table. Easier to access too then the front of my PC and can use a airflow focused case. Even mounted my BD drive... >>107564563
>>107563960watching old dvds/cds/blurays without your smart tv reporting you for not paying for a netflix subscription. keeping backups of old software and opperating systems so you can rebuild your system in case it gets bricked, or you want to build a new one without begging your masters online. >>107564880>WHY DO YOU NEED FLASHLIGHTS, THE ELECTRICITY IS STILL WORKING, JUST USE YOUR PHONE FOR A LIGHT IF A PROBLEM HAPPENSNo, I dont think I will. it's a tool, it's cheap to own, theres no legitimate reason NOT to have it. I have a section in my workshop dedicated to non-eletronic/manual tools. Do I use them? no, never. But it's good for them to be there just in case. Why should I not have them? Because some jew wants to sell me a subscription to a maker space where I can rent a scew driver? Fuck you.
>>107563812they can't monitor your optical drives.
>>107565504They have and will continue to
>>107564188HDDs aren't good for cold storage, especially compared to a stack of M disc BDs
>>107564775installing old games?
>>107564188>>107565527Use tape.
>>107565551>spend $2000+ on a tape drive>spend ~$150 on a mdisc BD driveidk anon, the choice was pretty easy
>>107565527M Disc BDs are a lie!https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/yu4j1u/psa_verbatim_no_longer_sells_real_m_discs_now/
>>107565551>places a neodymium magnet next to your tapemuh bad
>>107563812I have that exact same model of computer. It even has two optical drives.
>>107565551Tape is expensive and slow
>>107563812because normies aren't using them anymore, they are streaming and downloading everything in the internet. optical drive chads can still build their own PC with an optical drive AND get everything exactly the way you want
>>107565576yeah, my old dimension had a separate CD and DVD drive in it
>>107565584>Tape is expensiveYour data isn't?
>>107565587i lament the day they stop making optical drives entirely. i know it's gonna happen someday.
>>107564188>Tapes>HDDsmagnet would destroy both. CDs arent magnetic and thus are safe from magnets.
>>107565590It has two DVD drives. A burner and a reader. Top one is actually a DVD-RAM drive as well.
>>107565592I can store it on optical disk for cheaper.
>>107565567>>107565602Actually takes quite a huge magnet to do anything, easier would be a AC magnetic coil eraser. Even for HDDs that still wouldn't do anything.
>>107565617it's enough to damage some of your data, rendering the backup worthless
>>107566128Not really, you need to be really close to the magnetic surface to actually change anything with a conventional magnet and it needs to move. Like swiping a 50 gram neodymium magnet against the magnetic tape itself with its corner.
>>107563812
>>107563898Enjoy your disc rot, fagass.
>what's a CD?
>>107563812they don't want you watching those dodgy asian svcds
>>107563960You could use it for cold storage as another anon mentioned--family photos, password manager database, 4chan maymays, Japanese animes, etc--as well as using an image on the disc as a keyfile. However, the only usecase I actually find myself using is just to burn mixes onto them. I like burning them to give to friends. I prefer to have a disc drive (for the aforementioned use case) and (micro)SD card slot since the latter is sometime required in the process of jailbreaking handheld consoles.
https://pro.sony/en_GB/products/optical-disc
>>107566763I have CDs from the 90s that work fine, fuck off and rope tranny.
>>107566763>He believes the disc rot meme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlX7NwTq9Zo
>>107567135I have CDs from the 90s that work fine, and I have CDs from the 90s where the top layer has begun to flake off for no apparent reason, rendering them unreadable. These CDs are all stored in the same cases in the same environment, but with markedly different results. Don't rely on one medium alone for data you want to retain in perpetuity.
>>107567077if we are talking super important stuff very low file sized stuff like password manager databases it makes more sense to just use free cloud services. Especially since you don't need to dispose of a coaster every time you update the file.>but le big techThey are encrypted anyway and if you are extra paranoid you can put the encrypted database in an encrypted veracrypt file. They don't make any money or get any data from people abusing their free tiers like I am recommending. Blu-ray is great for making backups of bigger stuff like pictures.
>>107563812I can look up and download an album from Redacted faster than it takes to stand up, go to my shelf, find the CD, bring it over and loading it in my CD player.
>>107566763>>107567135>>107567462bit rot depends some on how you store it (use it to play catch with your dog and the data layer will inevitably come off), but it also depends on the manufacturer. Some manufacturing runs were contaminated and are prone to chemical defects getting under the layer which can cause them to oxidize and get eaten up over time.I have a disc that was playing fine for a long time, then half a year later reading the last track became harder, another half year later the last track is now unreadable. No visual defects whatsoever on the disc.and don't even get me started on the PDO UK Laserdiscs.
