https://thenewstack.io/rust-goes-mainstream-in-the-linux-kernel/> Rust Goes Mainstream in the Linux Kernel Turns out /g/ really is a bunch of nocoders and had no idea what the real programming community was doing.
Surely this will help the Linux driver situation
>>107564712I have the same opinion on Rust as I do on cock and ball torture.I think it feels too painful and I don't want to subject myself to that shit.If you or others want to put yourselves through that I'm perfectly fine with that though.
>>107564884I couldn't have said it better myself, anon.
>>107564712Forcing this convoluted, beginner-hostile language into the kernel just to appease the safety zealots is pure ideology over engineering. Linux will regret polluting its clean C codebase with Rust’s awful syntax and endless compile-time tantrums.
>>107564712As an embedded programmer, why is rust still not more widely used than c/c++?
>>107564884>too painfulRust isn't even a hard language. If you think so you have no business talking about systems programming lmao
>>107565138Because embedded programmers aren't retards.
>>107565156>Rust isn't even a hard languageLink your github with rust projects punk
>>107565138Because you need 32+GB to compile hello world. There is no spec. They're hostile to anyone trying to build a compiler outside of their control to support it.But the main reason? Go to the Rust Foundation website and look at who sits on the board of directors, who they work for and who is funding the foundation. That's all you need to know.
>>107565356This.
>>107565356>Because you need 32+GB to compile hello world.Another retard take from a nocoder.
>>107565664>instantly resorts to attacking the authorEvery time, they have no ability to argue against this because they can't win a debate on facts. Notice how he completely ignored the point I made about the Rust Foundation and where it gets its funding and who is in charge of it.Rust doesn't even properly support semi-modern AMD64 platforms. They can't even ship a compiler than can build natively on most hardware in current use for any project doing more than echoing on text in a terminal. It doesn't even have a spec or standards. It can't even really do what they claim it's needed for (memory safety). It's 100% a hostile take over of the FOSS community and the largest kernel being used currently. Which is also a take over of all other UNIX OSs in current use by-proxy since there is a lot of code being shared between projects like the Linux kernel and OSs like the BSDs.
>>107565356>Go to the Rust Foundation websitehttps://rustfoundation.org/about/hmmmm
>>107565799>It's not political
>>107565799>>107565819>It isn't a big tech take over of FOSShttps://rustfoundation.org/members/
>>107565836Have you seen who funds the linux foundation?
>>107565819Kill it with fire
>>107565138Oh and I should have mentioned anon. It isn't being used widely in embedded because they lie through their teeth about platform support. If you read their propaganda they claim it supports all sorts of platforms. In reality, it can not natively compile software on anything outside of AMD64 and _some_ ARM chips. Need 16-bit/32-bit platform support? Too bad. Can't do it. Even on modern 64-bit platforms your only option is often cross-compiling and for anything that isn't AMD64/ARM its not going to work.This excludes its use in a lot of OSs that require being able to natively build the software on the machine you're bootstapping. Projects like OpenBSD can't use Rust at all in its base system due to this. Since all supported platforms must be able to build from source.Even Gentoo on AMD64 was forced to switch over to using a binary by default because only recent top-end machines with more than 16GB of RAM can build anything Rust based if you opt to use the source based package.When they've (the Rust people) have been asked about this in the past their answer is always the same;>Use our -bin LOLIn other words: You're forced to trust what we're shipping. Basically, the plan they have going forward is requiring anyone wanting to ship Rust based software to end users to have their own large server farm churning away 24/7 or renting computing resources from them. Which they are all too happy to provide for money of course.Compare to C: Portable to just about everything and can build stuff from source on your machine in a timely manner. In return for burning all these computing resources for switching over to Rust you get a promise of "memory safety". When anyone with half a brain knows you will never be able to prevent security bugs using a compiler. It will never be a replacement for writing good code.Now C isn't great of course and has its problems. But at least it's truly portable and allows users to build from source on their own machines.
>>107565897Yes I'm aware and that's a big part of the problem too. This was not how things were before the 2000s and it should have never been allowed to happen. Both Linus and Stallman have failed us and broken all their promises. They both sold out a long time ago for money along with many other people in the so-called "FOSS community".There were many people that fought against this and tried to prevent this from happening. All have either been anhero'd, falsely arrested on trumped up charges or gave up and fucked off forever because they saw the writing on the wall. Meanwhile, people like Linus and Stallman went along, have made 100s of millions of dollars and blew smoke up everyone's asses while allowing things like binary blobs and DRM into the kernel.
>>107565988>StallmanBefore anyone comes along and claims I'm anti-FOSS because I pointed out Stallman is part of the problem. I will remind you that he spent years making millions in grant money while sitting in his comfy office at MIT doing nothing but making the odd blog post and ranting about shit without ever doing anything to legally back it up. He pushes a "FOSS license" (the GPL) but have you ever seen him go after any major big tech company for using GPL code for evil? The entire claim he made for working within the IP/Copyright legal system was that the GPL would become a virus and turn it against the people that would take our code and use it against us. But he did nothing of the sort and never used his influence and large yearly salary to go after these large companies that use GPL code everywhere without giving back and use it to spy on end users through various means.Then he was very happy to go along with a manufactured scandal that boiled down to a PR campaign to kick out and deplatform many long time contributors to FOSS projects. After he'd sat in his comfy MITnigger office for decades getting rich off the grant money he was paid directly from the US Government/DoD along with many of his fellow MITNiggers.A real idol of FOSS would have encouraged people to do the following things;>Release your code to the public domain>Leak any source code you have access to anonymously from big tech companies being used within closed source software>Follow the hacker ethics laid out in the 60s-90s and never code anything that would be used for evil. Like spying on your friends and family>If something you coded was used in such a way do everything in your power to expose it and make whomever used your code in that way pay for itAmong other things. But what do we get? Blog posts ranting about shit everyone already knows about. Stallman hasn't even wrote any code in decades now. But he's been more than happy to collect that Government grant money.
>>107564712>the real programming communityof which Rust programmers make 1%
>>107566374they have 41% attrition rate though
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rust is built on the idea that ram is cheap. Is it cheap?
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Jeremy Bicha.>SEX BAT BY JUVEN/VCTM UNDER 12; F.S. 794.011(2) (PRINCIPAL - 2 COUNTS)Pedophile.Rust developer.PPA for Rust.https://launchpad.net/~jbicha/+archive/ubuntu/rustMental health, pronouns and alter egos are at the very least trends in Rust. Also as the community Rust Discord server goes.Hector Martin.Insisting that Asahi Lina is not his alter ego.https://aturon.github.io/tech/2019/06/25/back-in-the-saddle/https://fasterthanli.me/articles/state-of-the-fasterthanlime-2024https://fasterthanli.me/articles/that-health-is-mental
>>107566702https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JeremyBicha>I am a United States Navy Veteran and spent 2007-2010 living in Bahrain. I currently live in Florida. I joined Canonical in 2022 but my Ubuntu story started much earlier.https://wng.org/articles/the-high-cost-of-negligence-1617309216>Florida prosecutors weren’t forgetting: The U.S. Navy discharged Jeremy, and when he reached U.S. soil, authorities arrested him. He eventually pleaded no contest to two counts of sexual battery on a child under 12 while he was under 18. His defense attorney asked for less than a year in the county jail. The prosecutor asked for 15 years in state prison.
