I have linux fatigue>install linux mint, its ugly and nemo is slower than windows 10 file manager, unusable>install debian 13 with MATE, faster but uglier but no app store>install debian 13 with XFCE, faster but no app store and uglier than MATE
>>107565331>GTK based distroHere's your problemInstall Kubuntu
>>107565331Why would you as a noob coming from Windows use something like Debian? Debian is for servers, autistic foss wizards and oldfags. If you're a noob coming from Win10 then just stick with CachyOS or something
>>107565331Why didn't you just use Plasma, or download an app store for Debian 13?
>he needs an app store go back to windows, negro. also, what is a theme.
>no app storeThat's the norm.>>107565392>CachyOSIs Cachy a fork or just Arch with installer, like Endeavour?
>>107565392honestly, why are a retards and windows' refugees jumping on debian? kek, just install fedora, debian isnt for you, not yet.
>>107565411>That's the norm.Since fucking when? Distros have come with software centres preinstalled for over 20 years.
>>107565331>using a gui file manager>using a desktop environment>app store lmao
>>107565441What planet are you from? Only a select distributions do the app store thing. And I don't remember seeing one in 2005.
>>107565400Ricing will never make Cinnamon look any better than KDE or even GNOME.
>>107565453>Only a select distributions do the app store thing????????????????Do you use fucking LXDE?
>>107565469Only Fedora and Ubuntu and such have app stores. Do you have a point to make?
>>107565477Holy shit dude, KDE Plasma comes with Discover and GNOME comes with GNOME Software. These are by far the two most popular desktop environments and are available on 99% of distros. Even Cinnamon comes with the Cinnamon Software Centre. Distros like Manjaro also come with pamac instead of Discover/whatever.How under a rock are you?
desu I guess I can understand the appeal of an "app store" but that seems to be more of a walled garden phonefag thing that I never needed/used on desktop (not on Windows, Linux, or anything else) i mean like wtf is so hard about typing sudo apt install [thingiwant] every now and again. I think Fedora KDE comes with all that htough
2/3rds of the shit in the Mint Software Manager are horribly outdated and shouldn't be used anyway.If you had noticed this you would already be used to installing things properly by now.
>>107565535>why would you want to see screenshots of the program before you install it?>why would you want to type "NVIDIA drivers" into Discover instead of memorising some retarded package name?These app stores are also just graphical frontends for apt/dnf/PackageKit/etc, so how are they walled gardens? If you dislike graphical applications so much then you should forego desktop environments entirely.
>>107565568>installing things properlyWhat is the difference between running sudo apt install audacity, and installing Audacity via an apt frontend?
sudo apt install audacity
>>107565573>These app stores are also just graphical frontends for apt/dnf/PackageKit/etcNo they're not or else you would see thousands of irrelevant system/background/CLI-only packages that nobody wants to see in their app store.CachyOS comes with an actual "frontend for Pacman" called octopi but it's literally just that. A frontend for Pacman. There are no pictures, just a list of package names for you to search and choose from.
>>107565573>These app stores are also just graphical frontends for apt/dnf/PackageKit/etcsynaptic is, Discover is an entirely separate category of program. It only has GUI apps and has pictures and ratings and crap.
>>107565615Just give me the full list of goalposts you intend to saturate this thread with.
>>107565331I don't have Linux fatigue, I have freetard fatigue.Linux, in a vacuum, isn't terrible. It makes a decent embedded OS, and the pricetag is hard to beat.Freetards are what make it shit, with their claims that it can do things that it provably can't, and Apple-tier replies ("you don't need that", "you're holding it wrong", "you're just a Winblows shill", "my OS is my personality", "but app stores are good", etc.) to legitimate criticism.
>>107566042>but app stores are goodOffline installers exist via .rpm/.deb/.flatpak/.run files, plus there's AppImages; if you really would rather download programs from a web browser, you totally can.
>>107566075>16 different packaging formats are totally cool>none of those 16 different packaging formats will work on the next release of the distroNo thanks, sticking to MSI and DMG.
>>107566094>16 different packaging formats are totally coolWindows has multiple installer formats, such as .msi files and .exe files, so I'm not sure what your argument is.>none of those 16 different packaging formats will work on the next release of the distro??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>>107566042>"you don't need that"Probably the most common one. A lot of sour grapes
>>107565331Install Windows for a while, you'll be back soon.
>>107565331What are your specs?Btw, you can install any AppStore, but I'd stick with sudo apt install xxx for your system packages, just enable Flatpak and get Bazaar (it's a bit controversial, but it's open source and extremely fast) for your Flatpaks only.
>>107565331>no storeJust use the friggin command line! Seriously, after getting used to it, you won't want to install packages in any other way!>t.fellow noob
>>107565331Here's the truth, Linux is absolute dogshit. But it gives you the tools to cope unlike the other options. Use those tools, install something like Arch and just learn the nuts and bolts of your system from the very beginning. You'll find all you really need is DWM and some terminals, and that it's the only viable way to use Linux on the desktop.t. 7 years on gentoo
>>107566226Discover works with Flatpaks. I'm not sure why you would want multiple app stores.
>>107565331FAGGOT "taste">>107565400>theme.*DE
>>107565379>krashes
>>107565331It's an average case of a retarded user. Install arch and dwm, set it all once and just use it as is.
>>107565453>I don't remember seeing one in 2005.i guess you weren't using linux in 2005
>>107565331time to install arch buddy
>>107565615I suspect what you may be looking for is Android
>>107565331Install Free/Open/Net BSD, be a software hipster and come back once you actually appreciate how well modern Linux works.
>>107565449
Unironically Install bazzite, the rest of the sysadmins will use nixOS.The problem with modern linux distros is that you have a lot of fragmentation, flatpak is a major step in the right direction to unify the linux desktop into a unified app system that is open source.The reason why steamOS is so good is because its immutable and has A/B partitioning with flatpaks, you can't fuck it up. Just use bazzite which is based on fedoras atomic immutable tech.Ideally, steam would already just ship steamOS as a full distro on their website with a "deck" iso edition and a "desktop" iso edition but valve is sitting on their asses.
>>107567016Post beef.
>>107565331>nemo is slower than windows 10 file managerdelusional>no app storeniggerbrainedGo back to /r/pcgaming
Gnome and kde are only ones you should even consider. You are a retard.
>>107565462Kde looks like shit,cinnamon looks way better already.
>>107567564Cinnamon has no blur or transparency, its start menu is ugly, and also no HDR lel
>>107565331so use windows. what the fucki have >you told me i HAD to install linux and that everything would just work but it doesn't!!fatigue
So fuck off back to your telemetry box.>>107567722This
>>107565331You know you can download shit and change it into what you want right? That's sort of the major draw of Linux.Open the terminal. And google what you want. A helpfull little AI will hold your hand through it.
>>107565331nigger
>>107565331>app storegr8 b8 m8
>>107565331come home white man
>>107565379This.
>>107565331skill issue.
>>107565331>MATE >ugly kysian agents at your doorstep
>>107565331just use the ugly software that works and stop being a fag who needs to rice their desktop. it's a computer, not some art piece.
Fedora with KDE will give you the best experience with the best balance of up to date software and drivers without your system breaking OP.
>>107565331Mint xfce has none of these problems
>>107569606Can it scale well?I was trying out Cinnamon and it couldn't scale under multiples of 100
>>107569616I don't know I just use 100% scaling
>>107569636Low resolution display?
>>107565331>no app storehow incredibly gay
>has no app storeUse your package manager, faggot.
