So are we going to boycott ram company brands that refused to boost production when they had the factories/machine to do so? Can we get some names of the tech companies that refused to shore up ram production for consumers? Starting with OpenAI for starting the price hike? I've already switched to Deepseek.
Samsung is one of the companies we should boycott.
>>107574924Boycotting is useless, the AI/ML companies already place their bid in. There isn't much demand for UDIMM to begin with. Outside of Windows 10 sunset. Nobody is getting their hands on UDIMMs. DRAM production is being allocated to produce RDIMM/LRDIMMs and HBM.
how often are people buying ram that this shit is suddenly an emergency? I put 64gb in my workstation a few years ago when pc hardware was super cheap, and I can't imagine that being "not enough" in the next decade
>>107574924Will boucott ram companies and... won't buy any products that we couldn't afford anyway? Besides you can just use your old computer. It's still good.
no they are boycotting us to provide companies that have more money
>>107574976The demographic who is suffer are prosumers who can't get their hands on RDIMM/LRDIMMs for their systems or have to pay through the nose for it.The prices on DDR5 RDIMM/LRDIMMs are really crazy. If you think DDR5 UDIMM are bad.
>>107575082so basically the people complaining about AI RAM $$ are the ones trying to buy ram to use for AI?
>>107574924Just threaten to let Kim walk all over Worst Korea and see that they suddenly scale up RAM production tenfold
>>107574976It's the holidays. We can't afford to buy good gaming computers for our kids. When ram normalizes, we should punish the ram companies that turned their back on us.
>>107575205>ram manufacturers prioritize selling to big companies who pay them more money>we'll get revenge by making sure they don't want to sell to random dudes with no moneyexcellent planalso what the fuck is this new captcha shit
>>107574924The prices got in the way of one of my simpler builds (for my parents), but the prices on the Threadripper build I've been planning have largely been unaffected as prices were already retardedly high there.Save any boycotts for when prices normalize again, you can really put the screws to them then.
>>107574976because they shouldn't be paying 3-4 times the price you did for the same amount of ram just because sam altman and the cuck crew are trying to force glorified chatbots into every crevice possible to inflate their wallets even more
>>107575239I'll just buy ram from a company that didn't decide to not shore up ram production even though they had the capability to do so.
Shouldn't Sam the sister diddler be sued for antitrust practice since buying 40% of the ram production fucks up all other AI companies?
>consumers, the 10% of the entire market think they're changing the world by boycotting>huge ass corporations go: oh neat, even more for us
>>107575310The one getting sued should be mciron but we all know nothing will happen.
>>107574924how exactly? are you going to refuse to buy products you can't buy anyway? you don't make them any money in the first place retard, the enterprise supply chain is what actually pays their bills. they're not going to increase production because they're not going to take a capital risk on ai. and they're still going to make all the money.
>>107575257they're aren't any.
>>107574924Boycott what? The RAM they aren't going to be selling?
>>107575257And which company is this?
dram is in everything electronic. not just computers. you'd have to boycott fridges, cars, etc.
>yes goy boycott so I can horde more and more ram!
Oh no, big evil corporations are targeting gamers again. jfc.
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>>107575205>our kidsyou use a computer lmao dont pretend you could ever reproduce
Remember, China is planning to invade Taiwan in 2027, so RAM prices are never coming back down.
>>107574924Boycott the AI companies.No revenue means they collapse and cheap hardware enters the market as they liquidate.
>>107575169yes. there's also bandwagon effects. people are now conscious of the lack, so they want in on the action.
>>107576553Anon might have a sibling that has kids.
>>107574924> refused to boost production when they had the factories/machine to do soImagine that you make 100 candies each month and sell for 1$ per piece, but suddenly your candies became very popular and people are buying for $2 each - why would you want to boost production and sell for $1 to get the same $200 per month?What you actually want is to decrease production to 90 candies and people will buy them for $3 each, so you not only sell for more, but also spend less time cooking.
>>107576918Now factor in competition from other candle makers.
>>107574976Because not everybody reaches time to upgrade at the same time? We get it, you upgraded your pc a couple years ago so now you're set. What about those of us who bought a PC 6 years ago and were looking to upgrade between now and 2027? Because our timing was different, we deserve to get fucked? I hate your stupid crab in a bucket mentality.
>>107576999There are few and they are your friends.
>>107574924Kek. Is Steve the '90s grunge band member wannabe' Gaymer Neck-us also doing factory tours like Linus Tech Tips?
>>107576529jews pushed hard to outlaw boycotting israeli companies for a reasonit can spin out of control
>>107577077I'm not trying to gloat I just don't understand what a computer from 2026 will do that one from 2019 wont, if it was still doing it fine 6 months agoif it's video games or windows 11, yes they do deserve to get fucked :)
>>107574924I'm gonna do a girlcott instead
>>107577989Because this laptop is getting old, the battery is degraded, the fans are running too hot, and I had been planning on upgrading to a more powerful desktop next year not anymore. Are you incapable of imagining situations other than your own or something? How would you have felt if you didn't have breakfast this morning btw?
>>107577989For me it's virtual machines and self hosting
>>107578042"my laptop is breaking" is a good answer to my question, thanksI haven't used laptops primarily in a while so I didn't consider that
sam oltman
>>107578042You're arguing with an autistic person.
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>>107575205I have kids. They want a Switch 2 and a new M5 iPad. They don’t care about computers at all.
>>107574924>Boycotting something you can't buy in the first placeHow are you gonna do that, buddy?
>>107575310>>107575324a few people and companies SHOULD be sued.
>>107574924Just wait until it backfires on essential institutions.
>>107578136Nta but I have been fucked over by my parents' lack of financial planning and spent most of the previous decade trying to stay out of poverty since I was pretty much on my own after highschool.I finally became financially stable and was saving up for a proper computer (haven't had one since 2014 but that one got wrecked in a house fire) and I get hit with supply chain bullshit, AI slop and happenings all over the globe since COVID also slowed down my recovery When everyone was enjoying cheap hardware I was working 10 hour shifts from 5AM to not starve :^)
>>107574924I'll say it again, anti-monopoly laws
here are the people responsible for the ram shortage:>>107576452>>107573710>>107575373>>107576396
>>107576707Retards who refuse to think will never give up AI. We have to consider a different avenue. I am hoping for the AI bubble to pop.
>>107574924>when they had the factories/machine to do so?They don't.
>>107574924>boycott companies that don't want to sell you their productThey don't want you to have your own capable computers, they want you to have thin clients and pay them to run software
>>107575169Not just the local AI modelers, but also self hosters, CAD creators, vid editors, photographers, 3d printe manufacturers, virtualizers, etc.
>>107577280This is the point that is being made as an antitrust issue.
>>107574924We should just buy from Chinese companies, but orange man is trying to prevent the yanks from doing so.The Chinese can make it.
>>107579495Its not every day losers generating porno on local shite. Its corpos and politicos letting the corpos go wild.
>>107578419Both of those have RAM inside retard
>>107574976I feel like I lucked out with my 64GB 6600mhz of RAM too. It was around $300 for me and now it is going for $1000. Crazy.
>>107574996This Let's see if it works out for them. Oh no Oracle just had another dump ohhh nooo.
>>107579495why do I reply to bait2/4 of those are purely local, and anime diffusion is easily done locally as well. this problem is becauseA.) Fabs are bottlenecked with orders for major datacenters and AI companies (mostly making memory for giant ML-oriented cards), and it's not as profitable for them to make consumer RAMB.) Said AI companies and data centers also need RAM in addition to graphical memory, and since they caused the shortage they were quickest to act on it, buying up as much RAM as they can afford, buying consumer RAM, buying anythingC.) The great Satan has decided that us peons no longer need personal computing. I expect within the next 5 years my house will get raided and my 128gb of RAM confiscated at gunpoint. When this happens, I have nothing else to live for, so the federal agents should write down somewhere that I can accidentally my entire house if it comes to that
>>107574968boycott is never useless, this is a permaconsumer cope. why are you addicted to buying slop? heroin would be healthier.
>>107581477boycotting in this case is useless because these corps are pivoting away from consumer sales.think, anon. what are you boycotting? they already won't sell to you. you boycott a thing that is being denied to you. surely you can see how retarded this iswhat is needed are enforcement of anti-monopoly and antitrust laws. it can be argued that these companies are stifling competition by purchasing all available inventory. or something else, but I can promise you boycotting isn't the answer. that's like saying "we're going to boycott all companies that make precision high-speed GPS for missile targeting because we can't buy them as consumers"also this new AIDS captcha gives "no valid captcha" when verification isn't required. hiro stop intentionally killing the site
My techgros, wouldn't that open the market for new companies in a tear or two?
>>107574924so glad I stopped watching youtube in 2022. I usually just read scientific journal stuff but got a bit into youtube videos in 2020 and 2021 during lockdowns while coding WFH, but then realized wait what am I doing? these people are fucking retards.. isnt this guy like a multi-millionaire crying poor mouth while still being a super left winger with permanent trump derangement syndrome? who would watch this crap
>>107581747If those companies source suppliers, sure.The turnaround for operations can take a decade or longer now.What is happening is industry capture through investment dollars.The bailout cash has consumers less than useful, and the stock market prop up to continue transferring the remaining wealth from the middle class through inflation to force the purchase of cloud based technologies.The goal is to make compute similar to the copper age, with resources reserved for the select few vs. the Iron age which saw the common gain the ability to use force in equal measure.
>>107574924All of this is the fault of Sam Altman. 100% open ai.Ai that has used any copyrighted material in training should be illegal to use for commercial purposes
