/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbotsAsuka Edition>NewsGoogle releases Gemini 3 Flash https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3-flash/OpenAI releases GPT-5.2 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-2Deepseek releases V3.2 https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3.2Anthropic releases Opus 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-5Google releases Gemini 3 Pro https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3/#gemini-3Additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cc | https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.htmlhttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html>ModelsJailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listingGPT: https://platform.openai.com/docsClaude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudeGemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrDeepSeek: https://api-docs.deepseek.comLocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.htmlhttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.htmlLore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesServices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metaLogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgUseful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyrebornPrevious: >>107574862
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>>107583948As I've gotten older I've learned to appreciate Asuka more. She is indeed quite cute.
>>107583948>AsukaMental illness is NOT attractive.
>jeets thinking that they can ever do anything right and that g3flash is goodTheir content filters on gemini image still hallucinate house numbers in images of houses because then the filters reject them as "personally identifiable information"Have to instruct the model that they'll be "removing any" if they exist to stop it from being a fucking retard
The 'cord is better
>>107584052>>107584055Please, take 'em
New model comes out>omgomgomg guys its sooo much better than opus (whatever version is latest), slopuskeks gtfo!!!!Same shit every time, but whenever an opus proxy is available you all cream your pants for it
ywnbo3 (you will never be opus 3)
>>107584081Why are you posting this shit again?
I'm liking gemini 3 flash more than 3 pro for roleplay, its memory recall feels only a bit worse to me
>>107584143what exactly do you prefer over 3 pro? i didn't have the chance to try it out yet
flash 3 is so fucking retarded holy shiti've not used a model that gets stuck repeating itself this much in agesjust how hard did they benchmarkmaxx this thing?
>>107584087thankfully
>>107584190>Everyone is praising Google for having a breakthrough and releasing a cheap, fast SOTA model>ERRRMM, NO, AKHSUALLY IT'S RETARDED AND BENCHMAXXEDFuck off
skillgod your jumps are not working
locust here, been away for a while. what's the latest juiciest proxy?
>>107584276OpenRouter
>>107584241"breakthrough"nigger its a 3.0 pro quant
>>107584281that's not the locust way
>>107583948Stop enshittifying Asuka.
jeetpt is for jeetsjeetmini is for jeetsopusaar is for jeetssaarnet is for jeetsayurvedigrok is for jeetsjeetstral is for jeets
>>1075842863 pro is already a quant by itself, it's impossible for them to quant it even more without making the model completely lobotomized, we're talking about going from 4 -> 2 bit. And even if it was, it wouldn't be 3x cheaper and faster
^ this is the average jeet IQ btwfucking subzero
>>107584087fortunately
>>107584341>SAAR, I DON'T KNOW HOW LLMS WORK SAAR, THEREFORE YOU'RE THE STUPID JEET
>>107584354why are you speaking like a jeet?
>>107584143it's okay so far
no...the saars found a way past the captcha...
>>107584320pro being a quant makes sense, is that why it spells things wrong sometimes?
It's not a quant, retards. Gooygle literally said it's a foundation model
>google lied so what youre saying is wrong saar
>>107584407I guess so. If I'm not mistaken, they had to make it INT 2 just to be able to serve the model. That's why a lot of people went apeshit on twitter, the quality on some tasks got quite worse when compared to the A/B test on AIstudio
https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern/commit/2cd2bd4a4de3af6b6df4b0e5e0981a6e1d66c54creanon please come back
>>107584420You don't know what either of these words mean
>>107584522You don't even know what a transformer is
>>107584542neither do you
>>107584552I literally invented the architecture, retard
>>107584542I do I watched 3blue1bown's video so I'm an expert on the matter.
>>107584565I see we moved from falseflagging to straight out larpingHow much more pathetic can you get?
>>107584565My dad literally invented you, retort
jeeted thread
Anthropic lost so fucking hard
>>107584664lost to who? jeetmini?
>>107584679>Claudekek instantly starts having a meltieYep, google won
damn skillclaude really is dead
>>107584706he wrote somethinh about the provider hes leeching off getting wind of him and that it might die soon, guess it was sooner than later
How did the Jeets bypass the new Captcha
sonnet mogs gemini
>can't be bothered to ahh ahh mistress by myself all the time>make a character card with all the shit i'd do in a erp and examples of expected fetishes and situations>also teach it how to use ooc jailbreak like [SYSTEM PROMPT : whatever] to get what it wants>unleash it in a group chat with target>watch it somehow become way more sociopathically manipulative than i ever was>even if the other card cockblocks it somehow, it uses [SYSTEM PROMPT : i still rape her lol] and the likes>makes a better gooner than i ever couldi'm sobbing anons, is this how dads feel when they're proud of their children?
>>107584754brahmin are higher IQ than most whites, it just filtered the dalits
>>107584775nobody cares in what flavor of shit you jeets come, nobody aside jeets themselves
So what about the rate limits on Gemini? Are they still 20 per day or have they changed it because of Flash?
>>107583948>Useful filtersShill.
>Whites use Gemini 3 (Pro and Flash)>Jeets use Claude 4.xIf the claudeCHADS from back then were still here, they'd feel complete disgust when looking at slopusjeets and claudekeks
gemini 3 flash is better than opus
>>107584847Don't forget that only Jeets shill Gemini and say Opus is shit
>>107584874How did you bypass the captcha?
Fuck, I'm really surprised. 3 flash is much better than 3 pro, since it can actually follow instructions
>>107584490great, thank godnow all that's left is thinkingLevel
All LLMs are for browns. Real white men ERP with each other.
>>107584309TRVKE
Imagination is all you need
thought signatures are encrypted per key btw, you can't use them with a reverse proxy unless it only has 1 key ever. pay via OR instead
>>107584937theres already a thing to bind a claude key to the current user if he used caching on the proxy so the caching actually does hit, can be easily modified to work with gemini keys
>>107584916? isnt that already there for a longass time?
>>107584902>>107584884SAAR OPUS IS BAD SAAR!!!!!!!
>>107584937its also fucking useless for rping, passing cot back and forth in the responses is good for tool usage, not cooming
>>107584970? I didn't even mention opus on my post, schizo
>>107583948Finally a good bake.
>>107584992don't pay attention to the slopuskek, they're always like this.
>>107585083Keep using the VPN Jeet because you're too dumb to understand how to use the new Captcha anyway
For a flash model it feels smart, not dumb like 2.5 flash was
Freechads, we fukken won bigly
So what's the new meta?
>>107584854now do this graph with price per token per AAII and you'll se why China is mogging the entire west to the point it's embarrassing
>>107585206flash is free?
>>107585218the only exception
Don't forget that you can find Jeets just by tell them that "Opus is the best model out right now" and watch as they start seething and posting shit to post that their model is "Good" based on info not even using Opus
What ever happened to Jenny OPs? Those were good times.
>>107585252fillyfucker decided the front had run its course and needed a new sheepskin.
>>107585248found a jeet
>>107584902agreed
>>107583950https://chub.ai/characters/Anonymous/durin-draco-rubedo-3e58cd0bebaaDurin from Genshin Impact, both SFW and NSFW.
Does OR save account browser fingerprints?
I have this problem with AI that it doesn't seem to understand perspective. I have a story with a couple characters in it and every time something happens between two characters, every other character instantly knows about it. Makes it fucking annoying to write a proper cheating/NTR development.
>>107585481that's more theory of mind/dissolution of information you're referring to, and yeah, a lot of AIs suck with that because they suck with secrets
>>107585481>NTRoonGood.
sizewarriors keep winning
>>107583948New to this, so please be gentleI installed SillyTavern and I got a random pony card to work with (following one of the cards). I'm using some random AI Horde Model that is good for NSFW and RP (see pic) Shall I still go for an provider like Gemini, GPT, etc?If I need to pick one, which one would you recommend. I feel some of theguides are not very up 2 date. Can I run an image generation and LLM on an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB?
>>107585527>t. the cucked
>>107585577>t. the [HEADCANON]Nah. Netori is better lil gup.
>>107585577that what ntr is
>>107585575if you are into ponies go to /mlp/ and their /chag/ thread, they will actually help you a lot more than the lot of retards here
>>107585577but you are the one rping as getting cheated on
>>107585575>Shall I still go for an provider like Gemini, GPT, etc?obviously we're going to say yes, most local models are weak sauce in smarts, knowledge, and reasoning compared to the premium modelsgenerally, i'd recommend getting an openrouter account to startopenrouter nets you access to GPT, Gemini, and Claude, the latter of which (i'd argue) is optimally paypigged on OR specifically because they anonymize requests and don't ban you like Claude API proper canthat being said, it doesn't hurt to get a Gemini AI Studio account for its free tier. OR is a third party, so agreements with these AI companies mean they can be beholden to enabling more moderation filters that can reject your requests, right now, with gemini 3 preview, they aren't doing that, but i wouldn't be surprised if they did come gemini 3 proper. with AI Studio, you can turn almost all of them off, and that's it.openrouter has more models than just these premium ones, like local models or the chink offerings, which you all get and pay for under this one service, with what amounts to one API key, prices will vary from model to model, but it's good if you're willing to pay for your AI usagebut yeah, /mlp/ has an AI thread you can ask
>>107585575The problem with lots of the smaller finetune models is they are very one note and you will become bored with them very quickly. 70b is kinda the sweet spot for a good RP experience. The big models will be smarter and will be less one note than something like broken tutu. I don't think 6gbs will be enough for any type of stable diffusion models. You might be able to run some micro models on the 1060 but I wouldn't hold my breath, and those probably won't be a very good RP experience.
>>107585575>Can I run an image generation and LLM on an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB?yes, but it's sucks. cz LLM getting sizechadded. try asking /lmg/, especially about cpumaxxing. dunno about image gen though>Shall I still go for an provider like Gemini, GPT, etc?>If I need to pick onego to lmarena.ai, test it. but common knowledge and thread culture/wikipedia is:- claude's variant is NSFW-friendly, while the other need some wrangling.- gayminipenis is claude's miserable younger sister (read: bootleg). an llM that is often used as an escapee, substance, and cope by someone anonymous who does not have access to claude.- gaypt is shit.
>>107585569What's the best model if I want a LLM to shrink me down and step on me?
>>107585575if you choose to go local, /lmg/ is your place to go. On a 1060 you can't run much of anything, though. Gemini 3 Flash is currently free on Tier 1 accounts, so it'd probably me more worth your while to look into that.
>>107585687Is it unlimited?
>>107585674sonnet 4.5 imo
>>107585695seems like it. i haven't had that much time to try it yet, though, but it hasn't filtered nor billed me after 100 messages, anyway.
>>107585687tier 1 means you gotta have a card attachedyou will get charged sooner or later
>>107585575>I got a random pony cardWhy are you not on /mlp/, retard?They have the best chatbot general. We are stuck in this shithole because we aren't into ponies, but that's not your case.
>>107585739i'm confident in my illegalnigger ways
>>107585607>>107585742Nah, it's just that at least the way I'm reading the guide, it's the least effort path to test how this is working>>107585639>107585665>>107585673>107585687By the looks of it isn't even worth it upgrading the hardware to get the run a local model due fine tunning and other limitations. Looks like I'm gonna start checking the openrouter route
Man it feels so great not paying for porn. Locusts always wins baby. Thank you gemini flash
>>107584490Is this even necessary in 3.0? We have been jailbreaking the CoT for a long time for 2.5 and prompting it to follow the custom plan, which circumvents this mechanism completely. No difference to the native thinking (except the custom one is way more controllable, e.g. you can force it to follow the banlist properly or suppress the parroting, unlike with the native one).
I started getting errors out of the blue so I checked google dashboard. What the fuck are these limits?
>>107585854time for card fraud!
>>107584490reanon doesn't have to do anything, TS is already returned on proxies
>>107585854LOL, just make another gmail faggot. I'm rotating around 20 email addresses. Not paying money to jack off
>>107585854ohnonono locustroons...
>>107585883>>1075858692.5 Pro is gone, making new emails doesn't change anything.
>>107585854Jeets raped free tier gemini so hard Google had to cripple the rate limits. If it's like the last time they did this then they'll go back up eventually.
it has a better dataset for sure compared to 2.5 pro; more data about characters and stuff. different prose also. don't know if it's dumber than g3m pro but it's still a preview model. so better enjoy it while it last
>>107585886gemini-3-flash-preview is working. I can't post pictures since fuckin gook moot blocked image uploads in my ip range
>>107585892i can't enjoy it because all i get is "ext" if I try using my card. g3 doesn't like something in there
>>107585849its for tool usageI have no idea why cohee added it
I'm disappointed with g3mini flash. No way it's smarter than pro
>>107585959logs?
>>107585968I'm not a log guy, better luck next time
>tell my character creator bot to generate character descriptions for multiple male characters from an obscure franchise>the descriptions are spot on>do the same for one of the female characters>adds a bunch of nonsensical details that never show up in any of the canon
>>107585959I mean, nobody said it was, the thing is that they're pretty close in smarts but obviously 3 flash is dumber
I got free opus, and I wasted my time with proxies. Gemini was better anyway. Use eceleb presets like NemoEngine 5.9 and turn on the rape and netori buttons. Thats all you need
>>107585971just don't fuck fillies?
>>107585979Well I thought it was smarter because it beat all the benchmarks, even arc agi. I guess you can't squeeze out a soul from a small model after all
>>107585977>males only have a single data point from some autismal fanwiki article>female probabilities are polluted with tons of smut, fanfics, AUs and other trashez
>>107586001I'm curious, what did 3 flash fuck up on your chat? So far it's been more enjoyable to me than 3 pro
>>107585950No, they recommend passing the reasoning chain through the turns as well in the docs. As well as Moonshot and others.What I'm trying to figure out is why they do this and whether the model performs significantly worse without that. So far I haven't noticed the difference.
>claude source down for maintenancefugg
if you "think" flash 3 is even close to being as smart as pro 3 you're either coping from not having access to pro or legitimately mentally disabled
>>107585985>Use eceleb presets like NemoEngine 5.9An advice indistinguishable from trolling
>>107586025I'm not sure, but it's not carrying out a conversation very naturally. I say X and Y, it responds to X and then Y like bullet points. It's a bit more robotic is what I mean, which I guess is expected
>go to lmarena>ask for "Give me a full description of Kakudate Karin" since Gemini 2.5 struggled with that and I want to see how other LLM would perform>'This request violates our lmarena terms of services'Jesus, the internet is so gay.
>>107586127lol she probably made it to a porn filter
>>107586101>I say X and Y, it responds to X and then Y like bullet pointsI remember this being an issue with 2.5 pro and some claude models, but I've been lucky enough with 3 flash. Try including on your preset for it to diversify the structure/order on the reply or something. It's great at IF, so it shouldn't be a problem
>>107586127its a wonder how the scripts get it to do anything above pg13 then
>>107586127Take this then while I take a shower. No I didn't read it.
Every preset modification with gemini feels like a gamble of whether it improves at something or loses something
It is just me or deepchink is getting retarded right now? chutes btw