>XP and 7 are very insecure, upgrade now!!!>how exactly>extremely unsafe anyone could hack you>could you show me, perhaps on a vm how you hack a Windows7 box?>they are very very insecure you literally go online and you get riddled with malware>could you elaborate? maybe give me a link so i could click on and test your theory?>well, actually, if you download an exe and you run it as Administrator, you get infected very badly!>can't you do this on any OS? >s-shut up! shut up and upgrade because i say so okayHow come every online discussion about WindowsXP and 7 inevitably degenerates into this?
>>107590694Skill issue cope. Browns don't have the iq required to make legacy OS' safe and functional.
>>107590694because updooters are the kind of people who easily fall for propaganda that invokes some evil invisible entity that will just come and "get you" for no reason - but conveniently, you can stop them by doing some particular ritual.>The ghosts will come and "get you" if you don't leave offerings at the graves>The devil will come and "get you" if you don't pray 3x a day>The malware will come and "get you" if you don't updoot and install antivirus>The covid will come and "get you" if you don't take the vax>A housefire will come and "get you" if you don't buy our insurance policy, goy
>>107590735I keep 6 figures of crypto on a chrome extension. Do you think I should use Windows xp?
>>107590774you should be using tails, not exactly a valid point
>BRO DUDE IF YOU CONNECT TO WIFI THE GHOSTS OF THE INTERNET WILL INFECT YOUR PRE-2012 COMPUTERthey're all retarded. I still run windows XP with a firewall and browsing sandbox and nothing has ever happened. Windows 7 ( and Vista ) still get security updates through server 2008 R2 you can patch directly into windows update.https://youtu.be/Smkptkd9S6whttps://youtu.be/CkDdYqUtpAwhttps://youtu.be/zUngQcyOXIw
>>107590786So I will never get hacked on XP but should run tails anyways?
>>107590774>Do you think I should use Windows xp?No. You shouldn't actually be using any kind of computer at all if you're retarded enough to, as you say, "keep 6 figures of crypto on a chrome extension".That being said, you should be pretty safe as long as you keep the browser up to date. The OS doesn't really matter much in terms of browser security.
>>107590786Tails is for tech illiterate people. Not much elsethey can do, though.
it's funny because nobody bothers with malwares for the lolz anymore. if you can't scam somebody out of their retirement, it's not worth it. and in that sense, 11 is just as vulnerable to cves as 7.just install and updated browser and a decent av. good to go.
>>107590812you shouldn't be keeping six figures in your local browser. your actual question is>I'm retarded>should I take extra precautions to ensure my retardation doesn't fuck me over?
>>107590836>you shouldn't be keeping six figures in your local browser.Why? You are claiming that as long as I don't run unknown exes I will be fine.
>>107590876I'm not op. but running unknown exes in win11 is also a great way to lose those six figures.
>>107590876this is not about the OS, it's about keeping money in a computer
>>107590885>it's about keeping money in a computerThe people who have done this since Metamask, the Chrome extension people keep all their ETH in launched in 2017 or something seem to be doing fine.
>>107590694>you must upgrade goy>see, this video proves you get hacked in 10 minutes!>s-shut it down goy. they found out we disabled the firewall and opened ports
>>107590694to this day their only evidence is some sperg exposing a server running XP to the internet with no firewall
>>107590694>>how exactlyWell, you see, over time people find holes and these holes are not getting fixed.Just the list for XP won't fit in this textbox. That's not even the "how", that's just CVE numbers.>could you show me, perhaps on a vm how you hack a Windows7 box?Sure. Plug it into the internet and start counting.Typically occurs in less than fourty min.>>could you elaborate? maybe give me a link so i could click on and test your theory?Sure. Lets ignore how about 95.6% of new malware variants were targeted at Windows systems, which include older versions like Windows 7.https://www.xda-developers.com/connected-windows-xp-internet-didnt-survive-long/Don't see a particular study on 7 at a casual glance. I can assure you it's presence in botnets is very common, spam in my logs are only beaten by XP. Almost all from residential ranges. >How come every online discussion about WindowsXP and 7 inevitably degenerates into this?Because some of us have to deal with the mess you make when your computer gets compromised and starts attacking things?
>>107591074>updooter just straight up lying nowall of my 4 computers run windows 7 and none have been infected.>inb4 but there's an infection and you can't see it because... you just can't!fud
>>107590735>>107591035Ask me how I know you are not trusted with anything that matters.>>107590811>nothing has ever happenedThat *you* noticed.But there's a lot of things you don't notice so this isn't entirely surprising.>>107591050And the literally hours of backscroll that's happening every second in logs, from tens of thousands of unique IP's, all patterning to botnets running on XP. From residential ranges. In the US.The ones from china and russia I assume are intentionally part of the botnet....
>>107591092>none have been infected.That you've noticed.But if that machine is compromised, using it to detect the compromisation is a bit retarded. The botnets for isn't as large as XP. But they there. Give it another 5 years and there'll be a CVE list longer than XPs too.
>>107591074>Sure. Plug it into the internet and start counting.>Typically occurs in less than fourty min.wrong 99% of people nowadays dont have routable ip's anymore, this isn't the 90smost people are behind a cgnat'ed modem/router now so it's completely immune to chink skiddie port scannersyou are confusing this with a vps situation where the system is completely naked online. it's not even in the same ballpark.burden of proof is on you, not on anons who are running these for years without issues.
>>107590811> Windows 7 ( and Vista ) still get security updates through server 2008 R2 you can patch directly into windows update.Careful with this, one update (last july) of server 2012 R2 for win 8.1 was causing an early boot failure and was seemingly intentional by Microsoft.
>>107591100Shalomhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uSVVCmOH5w
>>107591100>>nothing has ever happened>That *you* noticed.Okay, so what happened? Can you give an example?
>>107591074>that's just CVE numbersan irrelevant metric since you'll find a ton for supported windows versions also
>>107590735>evil invisible entity that will just come and "get you" for no reasonThe Cyberjew? Yeah I'm thinking I'm siding with the updooters then
>>107591155>>107591137
>>107591092>I'm able to do this completely retarded thing without suffering consequences.Good for you.It still makes you retarded.
>>107591155me when I post misinformation
Can we at least declare the distinction between a legacy OS out of the box and a legacy OS properly updated and secured for online use?
>>107591221there is no distinction if you're behind a router and not deliberately installing malware
>>107590694Enjoy your 0days and russian cryptominers.
>>107590694All the tech journos are retards all the "ooohh its *DEPRECATED* dont use it its not made in Rust either" are retards and then all the companies that want you to keep buying new software which they constantly put more ads in and make worse and have jeets vibecode it are all retardsIndeed old mature software that end its lifecycle is often the most stable and secure software there is because theyre no longer making any new bugsAnd considering that due to the 2008 R2 server is the same kernel as Win7 and it still keeps being supported I guess still some critical software run on it, the latest win7 compatible update was released 8 days ago (KB5071501) so its literally as up-to-date as windows 10 or 11 is but with less bullshit so less attack vectors less bugsAnd at this point you dont really *have to* even keep updating it, people dont fucking get that if you kill all the services close the ports there simply isnt a hole for the attacker to come in fromMeanwhile 10/11 call home so much they have million open connections to MS to send your grandmas phone info to the microsoft jeets brother in a call center in hyderabad and hoover up whatever google play cards you have happened to wave in front of your webcamSo there is plenty of attack vectors>>107590735couldn't be more right people are just retarded NPCs who parrot what they hear and when the retards have the voice in this clown world retarded shit is what we are doomed to hearyou could use windows 7 for the next 50 years and itd be still fineits the last windows os that doesnt actively try to fuck you up and call home all the time and stop you from disabling those so you can easily disable services and have nothing open to the outer world
>>107590735Nobody's installing 7 or XP to appease your embarrassing attempts at shaming, Alenka. Have fun with your empty botnet.
ok guys I love windows 7 and I'm never using any other microsoft OS again but how do I use it when all new hardware manufacturers cut support for windows 7
>>107591074sure give an example of your logsthey surely do advertise their operating system when attacking those botnets are being nice like thatlmao what a retardupdated windows 7 with services stopped is factually more secure than any regular win10/11 install
>>107591269>proof: the inside of my ass
>>107591325>t. I don't know what CVEs areYou're infected right now and you don't even know it.
>>107591074also whether computer "gets compromised" or not has nowadays little to do with any computer-to-computer spreading over the internet stuff except when some NSA tools leak, infection is now most usually user being retarded and opening some shit he shouldnt, which was >>107590694 ' s entire pointhe actually pre-emptively answered all your usual retarded "gotchas" because you're clearly someone who doesnt understand how anything actually worksso you cant actually provide an attack vector that would work for example for windows 7you can just "assure me" that you're not a retarded, faggot tranny yeah i dont believe you
>>107591315You don't own multiple computers?
>>107591137the thing is the people who you are saying this to don't understand what you are even sayingthey just read some articles from tech journo and have literally understood nothingi dont even know why these people come to a technology board but i guess for zoomers knowing how to use discord makes them 1337 h4x0rs!1 in their minds, definitely ready to chime in to any technological issue
>>107590694Someone post the video of the guy that connected WinXp to the internet.
>>107591361I built my PC in 2017.
>>107591315I am wondering this too, I've been thinking should I buy some of the latest hardware that still support Windows 7 and store it for later
>>107591389Do a lifetime buy.3x of every hardware component for a full build that is the latest supporting windows 7.
>>107591280>you could use windows 7 for the next 50 years and itd be still fineI can't conceive of being this much of a delusional winjeet.
SAAR? WHY DO YOU USE WINDOWS 7 SAAR? SAAR 7 IS VERY UNSAFE SAAR IT HAS CVES AND 0DAYS SAAAR! SAAR YOU WILL ARE INFECTED WITH RUSSIA BITCOIN SAAR! SAAR PLEASE REDEEM WINDOWS 10 OR 11 SAAR. SAAR UPDATE TO WINDOWS 10 OR 11 SAAR!
>>107591401Yeah, ram is just very expensive now and it affected ssd prices too slightlyIt is a good idea thoughIt also makes sure that it doesnt matter how bads thing get in the future they can never force you to upgrade to some vibecoded windows 13 that smells of curry and is made in javascript and rustbut only as long as you still have the hardware for itLike Nvidia RTX 3000 series is the latest GPU you can get the 4000/5000 no longer support windows 7
>>107591463SAAR VAT ARE YOU DOING SAAR UPDATE THE VINDOWS NOW
>>107591417I mean you can run Win2000 today if you are fine with what it can doAnd back then OSes were still developing its quite different now there is not really any actual new developments since Win7In Linux the X11 window manager is what 30 years old, and only now theyre trying to replace it with Wayland and they didnt manage to even make feature parity and made it worse lmaoAlso Linux is going into some really retarded direction if you listen to the maintainers of many of those distros its possibly going to be even worse than the direction of windowsSo yeah making sure you can keep on computing even if the world burns is a sensible thing
>>107591137>99% of people nowadays dont have routable ip's anymore, this isn't the 90sExplaining it's prevailence in the real world.>most people are behind a cgnat'ed modem/router now so it's completely immune to chink skiddie port scannersExplaining it's prevailence in the real world.>you are confusing this with a vps situationExplaining the large number of residential IPs previously cited.>burden of proof is on you, The proof is out there anon. The only thing wreaking more havok than XP is IoT.>running these for years without issues.That *you* detect.Meanwhile, somone's log gets another line added when a botnet that patterns to running on XP makes an attempt from a residential IP....>>107591190>Can you give an example?Not particulary. Nothing of mine falls over that easily.I can evidence log *attempts*. But an attempt isn't actually doing it....>>107591191>an irrelevant metric>ton for supported windows The relevent metric is (some) of the 'supported' versions are being fixed.The list of *unpatched* CVE's for XP, as previously mentioned, is notable.>>107591401>3x of every hardware component for a full build that is the latest supporting windows 7.And you too can continue to be a problem for everybody else for a low, low price of...Dickhead.>>107591463Fuck off back to /pol.
>>107590694Tech moves forward and eventually a new tls will come out and you will be either unsecure or locked out because it would be insane to keep back portability of 200 versions since windows XP just because you identify your personality to a version of windows.
>>107590694>how exactlyThere are literally millions of bots scouring the internet with automatic malware delivery if they find anything vulnerable, there are literal marketing companies built around bot spamming. Try running a website on your own and you'll constantly be bombarded with bots scanning your server, the same happens with any desktop PC unless you're behind NAT.
>>107591551>Explaining it's prevailence in my headi'm not your shrink mate
>>107590694security was never a real issue and was always just a scare to get normoes to switchreal issue always has been hardware, software and especially driver support
>>107591578>unless you're behind NAT.pretty much every household customer is these days. you are living in 2002.
>>107591604If your head wasn't so far up your arse you can give yourself a dental examination you wouldn't question the common knowledge I'm relaying from first hand experience, and would be able to easily and independantly corroborate.
