How bad would a modern phone camera be if it didn't have a bump?Can it even be done?
Sure. A phone with no camera.Question is why they won't make one.Interesting!
>>107595967Watch any normie phone review. It's 90% comparing the camera to other phones'.
New must be better than old, so bump will always be better than no bump, their hands are tied
>>107595967Would have to be an ultrawide if you want a thin camera but with a large sensor.
>>107595967htc dream had a little hole. using it was truly a dream. like using any hole is really.
behold
>>107596029You know, it sure was pretty.
>>107595967>phone manufacturers bitching about the 3.5mm plug making phones needlessly thick>it was actually the camera all this timeI'm sure they'll blame the battery next when these excuses stop working.
>>107596098The USB-C port is already too thick for the new generation of tri-folds.Samsung had to make the panel that holds the port thicker than the other two.Honestly I never transfer data from the port, I only use it for charging. I wouldn't mind a much thinner magsafe style charger instead.
>>107595967>lust provoking image>time wasting question
pretty bad, i don't miss the flush cameras, they always got dust in on my iphone 4 and 5
>>107595967>How bad would a modern phone camera be if it didn't have a bump?Flagship phones use periscope designs to 'cheat' with longer focal lengths. But even if you kept it to a shorter focal length (think 22mm equivalent) you'd still have to contend with the physical limitations of optics. See picrel.Problem is that people expect subsequent phones to have greater zoom capabilities and higher resolution imaging. You can fake zoom by cropping in on a higher resolution sensor but those sensors require more space (which then requires additional distance between the lens elements and the sensor which requires even more space). Option 1: Take the thinnest portion of the iphone air and make that flush across the entire phone. Cramming all of the logic boards into a super-thin of a section is probably possible in a few years with subsequent die shrinks but then you'd be removing large portions of the battery. And that's before you reconfigure physics to fit a lens stack in there. You could probably do it with a really shitty basic lens system, but heat dissipation would become a huge issue with components in such a thin space.Option 2: Take the middle 'bump' from the iphone air and make that flush. Overall phone will be thicker but there won't be a lens bump. You'd still run into issues with cramming telephoto lenses in (even with periscopes) but you could probably get a semi-decent wide angle in there. This could likely be done today. But then this imaginary phone is now thicker than the iphone air and would be DOA for being thicker than the previous phone with a shittier camera (but better battery life). Theoretical far-future Option 3: After die shrinks + battery density increases, cram a relatively low-res sensor in with a wideangle lens. Have phone take burst of photos, run it through a number of proprietary AI-upscalers, generate a telephoto equivalent based on that data, and somehow do it in a way that takes less than a second.
>>107595967yes, you could put a bigger battery and make it flatlike what is the fucking point of absurdly slim phones if then everyone uses a case thick enough to protect those cameras?
>>107596029For fun, here's the 4s scaled next to the air. If Apple wasn't obsessed with inventing The Thinnest iPhone Ever! they probably could've had a sweet flush phone partway between these two.
>>107596288Making it flush with battery to the thickest point adds more weight than you might think.>pfft but I'm not a weak bitch I'm not afraid of a heavy phoneSure but the larger the phone is the more unwieldly it becomes. Most people don't want a phone the depth and weight of a 20000mAh battery brick. I have a brick that's about the same footprint as my phone but much thicker and it'd be miserable to use.Applel went with the segmented design on the air because from the user's perspective, the part they're actively holding is the thinnest part. I'm sure they did a ton of user testing with various thicknesses and preferences before arriving at the design they went with.Sometimes comfortable designs look retarded.
>>107596422how about not making the screen that big? they are fucking phabletsand thinner is not more comfortable, again people add big cases, its the weight the problem
i've seen macfag cope before but this is a new level this is qualcomm no bro Snapdragon Elite Gen 9000 AI Strix is gonna be great levels of cope
>>107595967they do this on purpose so you cant put your phone on flat surface without scratching it or buying faggy case
>>107596454Don't necessarily disagree but I'm some someone from marketing ran numbers on the number of people willing to buy a smaller phone. They discontinued the iphone mini because of poor sales and that was a somewhat flush phone with a less pronounced camera bump.>>107596547apple doesn't really push their cases hard, it's always 3rd party that pushes the cases. And apple gets $0 from most of the third party case salesmen. So it's not that.
>>107596258listen to yourself defending garbage design. absolute cooksucker
>>107596387>they probably could've had a sweet flush phone partway between these twoThe iPhone 6s?
>>107596106>The USB-C port is already too thick for the new generation of tri-folds.You know what that means. Mandatory wireless charging!
>>107595967Make the rest of the phone 1/8th inch thicker to match the camera.
>>107596258clown option: Network with nearby phones to share cameras and composite the image together from them similar to how telescope arrays work.Shitposts aside, I'm honestly somewhat surprised that they don't put sensors on two bands further apart. I suppose it's only a matter of time until a phone shaped like a dog bone becomes a thing. It's the only "real" way to cheat the physics.
