I'm LMAOing so hard over the tards who said AM5 early adopters are dumb.
>>107620274Wait, you're saying I could sell my 5800X3D for how much?
>>107620274>$8005800x3d owners can now upgrade to am5 for a low cost even with inflated ddr5 pricing
>>107620310Yeah, poorfags have no excuse for AM4 anymore.
I'm happy with my $150 Aliexpress 5700X3D.
>Amdrones so retarded they can just swap to a 13900k or a 14900k or even a 14600k (it was free)slopped
>>107620274Fucking retards. If you want to stick to DDR4, you should be buying Intel as they have the best CPUs that can use DDR4. All the way up to 14th gen can use DDR4.
>>107621146I actually did not know Intel past 12th gen supported DDR4. That's cool, but their chips are still inefficient shit that may or may not fail and a 5800X3D is still better for gamingI was curious after seeing this thread earlier and lol at pic, we are so fucked. Thank god i'm sitting on 128gb already
>>107620274You could still buy 5700X3D for 250€ this summer. But since AMD stopped their production their prices rose to an insane degree. And it's because 5700X3D and 5800X3D are the best gaming CPU's you can get for AM4. Just like for example an i9 9900K costs more than a Ryzen 7 5800XT and new B550 motherboard despite being worse. The best cpu of a platform will always be overpriced.
>>107621209>5800X3D is still better for gamingIt's not. Though to be fair, The 14700K is using DDR5 which it definitely performs better with than DDR4, but even if the performance is a lot closer to the 5800X3D using DDR4, it's still worth it over AMD because the 14700K is still produced and priced reasonably. The degradation thing is a non-issue with an up-to-date BIOS.
>>107621209>>107621348Both are a joke. Just get a 9800X3D.
>>107621209>>107621348Here's the 13700K with DDR4. It's about the same as the 5800X3D, so you can expect the 14700K to be slightly better. Value obviously is a lot better with Intel.>>107621364Retard. This is about people who want to keep using DDR4.
>>107621348>CPU load 20%Something odd is going on. The CPU isn't even getting pushed but the GPU is maxed out.
my am4 just works lel, and now with markets ram fuck up its worth even more
>>107621396Yeah, I just noticed the benchmark videos I found for the CPUs were retarded and used 1440P and 4K for the tests, so all the games were GPU limited. Whatever, point still stands.
>>107620274if you don't have a 9950X3D or better, you don't deserve to talk to me
>>107621383>AYYMD gets worse 1% and 0.1% lows than shinteloh no no no ayymd sirs... i thought muh 3d cache was supposed to fix gaming...
>>107621451It does, 5800X3D is just a early access beta test product.
>>107621451It's not a magic bullet to every game, even though it helps many games with no action required on the developers part.Though for others the developers could do some work to improve the performance when more cache is available.
>>107621348>>107621383How skilled do you have to be as a developer to create a game that is both GPU limited and highly dependent on the CPU at the same time.
>>107621451something is very obviously wrong with those benchmarks.
>>107620319I'm loaded and still use a 3900x. I have no use for anything more powerful. Would consider a 5950x if I saw one come up cheap, simply because everything else in my system is peak AM4 (X570, PCIE 4, quad channel ram etc) but it would have to be reeeeeally cheap because I don't really need it.
any way to drive idle temps lower on a 9800x3d
>>107621209Friend had a 5800X3D that literally failed just a couple weeks ago. Me being a ni/g/ger he naturally spammed me for help so I complied. Spent a lot of time testing out every single potential failure as it only crashed under load without giving any error message.Tried switching RAM, SSD, PSU, even fucking motherboard. But in the end it was the CPU. Which is supposed to be rare as fuck but hey apparently it can happen
>>107621412okay i take it back you poors, i give you permission to respond
>>107620274gaymers are so fucking braindead...
>>107620319>implyingActual poorfag here, and my final cope is that 5800X3D is overkill to my usecase, I don't care about AAA slop with ultra settingsI literally shouldn't need more than picrel for the next 10 yearsYes I missed the opportunity to build a more powerful PC for much cheaper, but I couldn't have predicted the AInflation happening just when I finally got a job (and will still take at least an entire year before I actually build my PC)
>>107621594I'd say kiketubers have been very silent about Zen 3 degradation, but they happen often. The only one I know that did a video about it was TechYesCity, where he found a degraded Zen 3 CPU, never overclocked but unstable on default settings.CPUs do degrade, but Zen 3 seems to degrade fast as they pushed voltages too high.
>>107620419>>107621146yep>>107621209>that may or may not faila lot of people want this to happen (for some reason)but it's not happeningany reports of degradation you see after 2024 are from retards who don't know how to update the BIOS or bad RAMhttps://x.com/mpr_reviews/status/2001598368510779760>>107621383i hope you realize none of these benchmark channels are realthey don't actually own all the hardware they publish on their channel>>1076230375800X3D is the least likely to degrade since the max VID is like 1.35 V at 4.5 GHzi had a 5800X sitting at 1.45 V for years and it's still finebut that's a sample size of 1, it's not like AMD would acknowledge the problem if it existed considering how they've treated the exploding AM5 CPUs
