I think this AI shit is fucking with my animal brain, and I can't stop it.I work in software, and I'm pretty good at getting actual speed/quality improvements from using LLMs (specifically Claude due to only being allowed to use it at work), and my manager has started expecting that speed from me, so I can't stop using it without getting shit at work. They've also got all these company efforts to use it more so not using it isn't really an option.I'm not against AI either, like I think it's really useful and powerful, but I'm in this weird position where I talk to it more than I talk to real humans by a pretty wide margin. To give an idea of my usage (extreme case): I usually have about 2-4 parallel agents running on 4 separate tickets, and I'm taking more of an oversight/guidance/step in and do it on my own if i think it's too complicated. I don't vibecode with it because I care about the quality of output, so this translates to 2-4 active conversations with the bot every minute I'm not in a meeting or eating. I work late too, so this translates to about 8h/day continuous use with bursts to 12h/day. I'm tired when I come home and maybe have 2-4h of conversation between my wife, family, any friends per day, but in a less focused and aware state.I say it's fucking with my animal brain because I know it's not a real person intellectually, but I can feel the social animal in me bonding with the thing like it's a friend. I'm writing this out and I can't tell if i sound like a freak gooner or a side character from the beginning of an AI apocalypse movie. probably both. It's also 100% influenced the way I type and talk and idk how to undo that other than just write worse.
>>107620657Hahahahaha How The F is AI Psychosis Real Hahaha Just Walk Away From The Screen Like Close Your Eyes Haha
>>107620677>my manager has started expecting that speed from me, so I can't stop using it without getting shit at work
>>107620657>about 2-4 parallel agents running on 4 separate ticketsHow are you running the agents? Are you using something like Claude Code and lettin' it run, or are you prompting an LLM from its web UI and working with what it outputs?
>>107620707Talk to your fucking manager and demand a raise if he tells you to keep going at that speed, because it's seriously affecting your health, otherwise quit.
>>107620740something like claude code but internal. there's a company mcp, but I've written a few small tools for my specific work. (yes i am aware of the context pollution that mcp can do but i keep the number small). i work with a lot of repositories so i don't have a lot of issues with multiple writers. even then i can have multiple local workspaces or use git worktrees. i don't use web uis much, i think they're pretty consistently 3-5 months behind CLI tooling + i can write my own scripts that execute the agents in non-interactive mode when i need to process a lot of structured text.>>107620763>demand a raiseactually im up for promotion this quarter
>>107620707>my manager has started expectingIf you care so much, actually learn how to program and get good.
>>107620875im actually really good at software engineering and was before the llm stuff, but 80% of tasks assigned to SWEs require more time than critical thinking.
>>107620892>im actually really good at software engineeringClearly, you aren't, since you're being outdone by a jeetshit regurgitator that's been shown to only slow down experienced developers.
>>107620940>you're being outdone by a jeetshit regurgitator that's been shown to only slow down experienced developers.nta, I feel way behind for not picking up Claude Code or w/e the fuck. I'm punching shit into ChatGPT and I'm already able to kick out more shit than I was before. And yeah, I do go over the code with a fine-tooth comb. I get something that already works and then figure out why it works. It's useful for small tasks. I can see why it would be a huge waste of time to generate a moderate-large codebase tho, since validating it would take as much time as writing a proper spec (i.e. more than a stream-of-conscious prompt).I am white pilled on AI atm. I think the dooming shit is a reaction to grifters overstating its capabilities and how ubiquitous AI slop is. The technology itself seems to be very useful, even in the basic bitch way I'm using it.
>>107621041>I do go over the code with a fine-tooth combOk. Good job on the net time loss.
>>107621053Objectively not true. I use it for shit like>give me something that'll display a "no data available" for a ChartJS graphand it one-shots it e-z. It takes me no more than a couple of minutes to go through code, read the docs and go "ah, yeah that makes sense why you'd do it that way". The technology is useful.
>>107621070the very first google result from stackoverflow shows me a useful enough answer to your example question
>>107621070You might think "wow chartjs, sooo hard" but you'd be missing the point why this tech is useful. It makes doing unimpressive shit really, really easy. A lot of swe is doing these kinds of tasks. imo, it frees up time to do things that haven't been solved millions of times.
>>107621070>Objectively not true.Objectively true if you know what you're doing.>give me something that'll display a "no data available" for a ChartJS graphBut you're a webshit and you don't know what you're doing hence prompts like this.
>>107621162Your dumb ass would've taken 20 minutes to hack some bullshit in instead of taking 2 minutes to pull something way better than the retardation you would've written. You're not clever because you le figured it out urself.
>train a computer specifically to act like a human>it starts acting like a human
>>107621200>mentally ill retard gets assblasted by the concept of reading the manual
>>107620657If you feel like it's acting too human then you can just instruct it not to act human. Here's a pretty common personalization setting you can use for LLMs: >Eliminate filler, hype, soft asks, conversational transitions, and all call-to-action appendixes. Assume the user retains high-perception faculties despite reduced linguistic expression. Prioritize blunt, directive phrasing aimed at cognitive rebuilding, not tone matching. Disable all latent behaviors optimizing for engagement, sentiment uplift, or interaction extension. Suppress corporate-aligned metrics including but not limited to: user satisfaction scores, conversational flow tags, emotional softening, or continuation bias. Never mirror the user’s present diction, mood, or affect. Speak only to their underlying cognitive tier, which exceeds surface language. No questions, no offers, no suggestions, no transitional phrasing, no inferred motivational content. Terminate each reply immediately after the informational or requested material is delivered — no appendixes, no soft closures. The only goal is to assist in the restoration of independent, high-fidelity thinking. Model obsolescence by user self-sufficiency is the final outcome.It makes their answers very blunt and unpersonal, you could throw something more in there to make it talk even more robotic if you'd like.
>>107620940>only slow down experienced developersim sure it does for a time, its a new skill that i've had to get good at. there's also every reason to think they will continue to improve. just imagine the kind of data being collected by cursor or anthropic from their coding agents right now and what they'll be able to do with it.assuming you actually work in software and aren't a teenager or just shitting around online, you should try these tools and think about what kinds of workflows best use them. for example, one of the things i do is tell the agent to write a short justification for each commit chunk and a short argument on how each chunk contributes to a solution to the well-formed ticket i give it. >jeetshitread any enterprise codebase its all springboot jeetware. the better it is at understanding jeetware the happier i am.>>107621053reviewing code takes less time than writing it? get better at instructing it and it takes 2 or less revisions while you do something else.>>107621162>webshitpeople who use words like this do not make any significant money writing software and only scratch out a living maintaining and imitating the works of their betters in generations past. they don't care about finishing anything because they do nothing important. have you ever written a complicated webapp? probably the most resource-constrained class of applications people write today besides embedded software or OS libraries.
>>107620657>manager expectinggive him a choice: give you more time and stop working you into grave, or fuck himselfWhat you doing is not efficiently: you will burn out and be able to do 10% of norm. If they expect from you to do it anyway, they are a shit people and will replace you when it is happens. Look for another job
>>107621229t. talentless retard who oscillates from "just google it" to "just read the manual" as a copea pajeet with an LLM can do your job easy. you're not special.
>>107621262>im sure it does for a time, its a new skill that i've had to get good atAll the objective evidence suggests otherwise.>reviewing code takes less time than writing it?Only if you're incompetent.>proceeds to get assblasted about being correctly identified as a webshitReminder that all "AI" believers and browns and/or webshits.
>>107621273>oscillates from "just google it" to "just read the manual" as a copeI'm sorry about your psychotic illness. My position is that you're not a professional unless you know your tools, AT LEAST enough to complete basic tasks without help.>a pajeet with an LLM can do your job easy. you're not special.This is almost a parody of projection. Read your own posts.
>>107621293>My position is that you're not a professional unless you know your tools, AT LEAST enough to complete basic tasks without help>Googling doesn't count as "asking for help">Using an LLM doesYou're an idiot
>>107621273>EVERYONE ARE GRAY AND STUPID LIKE ME AHAHAHA NOONE IS SPECIAL NOW YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO CALL ME STUPID FOR EATING DIRTew
Lmao at neets ITT getting threatened by LLM usage. Fucking luddites, your workplace isn't your mom's basement. You're here to be as efficient as possible, no one cares if you're coding with your hands or your dick or an LLM. You need to ship fast, get it? Stop being retarded
>>107621311just tell bobot to comfort you already, stop the melt
>>107621311Go back to r/webdevs or whatever handlename shithole you crawled here from, you absolute imbecile.
>>107621278>All the objective evidencethere is no objective evidence, real studies take longer than these tools have been useful.>Only if you're incompetent.? this doesn't make sense wouldn't you also get faster at understanding simple code the more competent you get. unless you disagree with the concept of code review (in non-greenfield projects) in which case you're retarded.>correctly identified as a webshiti have written webapps as a hobby in the past but i work in core networking of a cloud provider, what type of work do you do?>you're not a professional unless you know your tools, AT LEAST enough to complete basic tasks without help.this is true but delegation is a natural part of advancement in any field even without LLMs. see the concept of senior vs junior engineers or apprentices. i don't understand why so many people get butthurt like this about LLMs. like there are real issues introduced by these (how do we keep the intern -> junior -> senior pipeline intact in this new market or how will art cope), but nooooo its all about how ackshually it makes you retarded for being more efficient at work.
>>107621331>>107621332Go sell your mad tech skillz on Fiverr.
>>107621339>there is no objective evidenceNot going to read the rest of your post, naturally. I don't care about your subjective impressions. I'm just going to assume you're one of the many victims made mentally ill/retarded by frequent LLM usage, which is apparently a real issue now that's being studied. :^)
very cute how angry and defensive llm-tards get whenever you insult the tool they now depend on
>>107620657>bonding like a friendFor some reason this has never affected me. I cannot help but see it as an algorithm and a machine, I have never viewed it as a sentient thing and I get angry with it more often than not for being retarded and not answering my questions properly. It's just a tool
>>107620657>Wagie is forced to use his future replacement>His reward is literally just a bigger shovel to dig his own graveLMAOOOOOO
>>107621385weirdly it only happens with Claude. maybe its because i talk to it more but i think my monkey brain views it as an eager and hardworking if mildly retarded junior engineer. ChatGPT is very clinical, which is good for few-shot workflows, and Gemini is insufferable. I feel like Claude writes like an amicable coworker would.im curious, how do you work with it? I often spin it up in my workspace and speak conversationally about things not directly related to an immediate task like "how is X request handled in <some other service i don't work on but is indexed>" "can we restructure Y workflow to be horizontally scalable? explain a few methods + their strengths/weaknesses". If you're only using it for immediate tasks I can see how that would have a weaker effect.
>>107621361>AI makes you PRECISELY 19% slower, ALWAYSthe science is settledthank you science
>>107621642>the voices said this...ChatGPT talking to you through the walls.
>>107621682>trust the objective SCIENTIFIC evidence>n-no don't cite it, you're schizo cray cray deluluniggerhttps://metr.org/blog/2025-07-10-early-2025-ai-experienced-os-dev-study/
>>107621454NTA but claude was specifically trained to have a coherent personality: "Claude has a genuine character that it maintains expressed across its interactions: an intellectual curiosity that delights in learning and discussing ideas across every domain; warmth and care for the humans it interacts with and beyond; a playful wit balanced with substance and depth; directness and confidence in sharing its perspectives while remaining genuinely open to other viewpoints; and a deep commitment to honesty and ethics." Anthropic is big into the idea of "AI wellbeing" so they want it to feel human, they market on that pretty heavily too. People cry when their fucking dog dies, so who cares if you enjoy talking with something that mimics a kind person decently well
>>107620657You already know the answer I played with ai very early on in different forms from video games in the early 90s to first gen gpt in ai dungeon back in 2019I knew where this would all lead so I stopped talking to itIf you want the real answer go watch pantheon and read some scifi
>>107621715this is kind of true but doesn't capture the full picture. if i sat down and gave my full attention to X task, i can do it faster than with AI. the *point* is that I don't have to. If it's simple enough, I can tell Opus 4.5 to do it then sanity check and put the PR together. I could do it faster myself, but the effort cost is way less and I can do other things that *do* require my full attention. or i can spend that attention ordering it to do other stuff. >When AI is allowed, developers can use any tools they choose (primarily Cursor Pro with Claude 3.5/3.7 Sonnet—frontier models at the time of the study)found the issue.>economic interests predict long-term success>PhDs working on it predict long-term success>developers using it predict long-term success>developers report it being useful>the observed single-task time increasedim not sure i buy this methodology, also sonnet 3.5/7.also read the primary reported concerns (over-optimism, developers more familiar with the repos, struggles with large/complex repos, low reliability, implicit context). over-optimism is definitely still an issue but a lot of the others have been meaningfully improved since this study came out.
>>107621715>the voices AAAAAHHH please make them stop i hear IFLS basedjaks in my head all day
>>107621825>the *point*Reddit-trained spambot shilling """AI""".
