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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 217, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget: 9600X, 7600X, 7500F
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
AVOID Shittel

>COOLER
AIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Premium: Lian Li GA II Lite, LCD: TRYX Panorama
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.

>RAM
Gaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: NM790
Mid range: SN7100
Premium: SN850X
Flagship: SN8100

>GPU
1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$250
1440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB
4K:Used RTX 4090, RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090 ti
AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b

>PSU
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2

Prev: >>107630936
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First for get a fucking job OP
Don't need a thread immediately at 301
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It's so incredibly over
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>i7-9700K
>RTX 2080
>G.Skill 2x8GB 3200 MHz
Realistically how long can I last on this build? I am a waitfag that might be waiting a lot longer than I thought I would given the component pricing in my country now.
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>>107636588
nicotroon is a nepo hire at an indian gas station
he would never get fired for shitposting at work
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>>107636611
You're kind of fucked unless you're willing to stay on DDR4 Ram.
And by fucked I mean fucked under the bed sheets by a big black anaconda in a African slave camp ran by homosexuals fucked anon.
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>>107636611
upgrade the gpu right now and worry about the rest later
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>>107636611
>>>G.Skill 2x8GB 3200 MHz
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Who's gonna tell him about the ddr4 prices?

my roll counts:
13, 10, 14. I'm guessing they want 10. I guessed wrong.
12, 8, 12-13. I'm guessing 8.
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>>107636551
Can we go back to using pics posted in the thread as OPs rather than these really retarded images where some dumb nigga has spent more money on fans and RGB than their GPU?
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>>107636767
Are you a bot? Who even would say that at this time in 4chan's abortion operation?

roll sums:
8, 3, 10. Like what, I don't even. I'll guess 3.
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>>107636767
Okay post your PC (must be all AMD) and I will use it then
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>>107636611
>2x8GB
It's over.
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>>107636796
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More bots getting through?

>>107636796
>>107636799

roll sums:
13, 5, 1. I don't even. I uh. I'll guess 1.
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>>107636816
8^) dat saggggg

shouldn't matter, but funny.
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>NEWS
https://www.jpost.com/business-and-innovation/tech-and-start-ups/article-880828
Nvidia to invest billions in Israel to build a new campus there. Jensen says it's their second home.
>With the official announcement, Nvidia founder and CEO Jensen Huang said: “Israel is home to some of the world’s most brilliant technologists and has become NVIDIA’s second home. Our new campus will be a place where our teams can collaborate, invent, and build the future of AI. This investment reflects our deep and enduring commitment to our families in Israel and their unique contributions to the AI era.”

So TLDR if you buy an Nvidia gpu you support
1. Genocide of innocent civilians
2. Child Sacrifice
3. Pedophilia
4. Jewish power and control of western governments and institutions
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Alright lads, do I get a 9070 XT or a 5090?
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I'm on an Asrock X470 Master SLI/AC and never bothered to update the bios, now I'm about to install a 5700X3D on it, do I just flash the latest bios of that board or I need to pick an earlier one? Anything else I need to be careful about to not brick my PC?
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>>107636862
10 x 1080Ti.
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I>>107636838
I'm not on the Epstein list. Goes without saying my GPU is a Radeon and not GeForce
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I don't think these are human posts:

>>107636862
>>107636872
>>107636838
>>107636876

roll sums:
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>>107636876
Maybe if they supported 10x SLI
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>>107636767
Agreed
Plus my old PC is much cooler than OP
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>>107636912
STOP POSTING THESE FAKE AI VIDEOS OF MY WIFE :(
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>>107636890
No just half are the nicotranny drone living on welfare
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>>107636916
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtpRgEGKWlQ
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>>107636872
https://download.asrock.com/TSD/InstantFlash/BIOS10.pdf

https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X470%20Master%20SLIac/index.asp#BIOS

just pick the latest one

latest stable is 4.9 if you don't want to use a beta bios
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>>107636933
It's weird. None of it makes any sense. It's completely incomprehensible.

roll sums:
3, 12, 7. guessing... 3???

I'm rainman!
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>>107636956
dog I literally don't understand the dice game. why was 3 the answer???
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>>107636890
they live inside your ram
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crabs did this
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reminder that every X3D AM4 CPU is selling not for more or even double what they did sell brand new
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I just can't see how any of this shit is real
It all ties to this HBM shit and Nvidia have bought the most of it and the manufacturers do not have anywhere near the amount that Nvidia has bought to even manufacture
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>>107637018
the ones that have survived :^)

dice sums:
6, 15, 2-3. I'll try the last one.
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>>107637003
Love the crabs
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Why is she so fucking ugly
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>>107637043
They're more than that.
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>>107637060
Realtime qwen image edit diffusion of frames to restore the slaves to their homelands (off my screen).

roll sums:
12, 12, 10. guessing the 10... yeah, it's always one of the same ones if the same. idk why.
9-10, 3, 3. so I guess it's one of the 3 ones. trying the final one, no idea...
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>>107637089
Wtf
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>>107637089
so the rule is "moar blank dice"?
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>>107636551
I like how clean this looks. Probably all this moving air don't let dust to settle.
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>>107636956
Inane ramblings of a schizo tranny.
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>>107637060
american
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>>107636551
Do you guys think that the prices of other components will go down as people quit building? I'll eventually want to upgrade from AM4, so I wouldn't mind grabbing a PSU, case, cooler, monitor, etc. a few years in advance at a discount.
>>107637018
Even this 5700X3D? What would I replace it with in this market?
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Do 80Plus Bronze PSUs have a bad reputation in terms of reliability and safety compared to silver/gold/etc?
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You know what, I just realized I don't care anymore, 7 years of being stuck in a cramped case has forced my hand.

Behold my technological terror.
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>>107637196
Kino
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>>107637188
lol
lmao
Bronze, gold, plat ratings are only about their efficiency.
They're all reliable and people somehow forgot that the ratings are only there so they don't spend more on an electricity bill.
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>>107637003
They're behind every panel.
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>>107637183
No, the other parts production will be slowed down or just put more in warehouse, less refreshes or product updates. Enjoy the stagnation >>107637188
Dawg just use AI to even give you the basics. Do not buy below gold or reap the rewards of shitty capacitors and rail noise and spikes.
>>107637196
Cmon kohai even my 5 HDD+ tower has better cable management than that
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>>107637204
I was under the impression that higher efficiency ratings would be correlated with better materials and build quality, and thus a reduced chance of the PSU dying too early, or zapping the entire built into an early grave.
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>>107636576
I don't have access to a VGA adapter yet (they're really hard to find and I need a new card) so I'm banking on one of my fan hubs (PWM or manual 3 pin) doing the job.
>>107636795
I tried there at first but it didn't clear, I've found a compromise for now though. I'll test the temperatures before adding the third fan, clearance may yet be an issue.
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>>107637239
PSUs lasts a long time. By the time yours 'dies' you would have replaced it already.
I have bronze PSUs in my server that's been in use for 25 years.
You're worrying about a nothingburger.
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>>107637183
when there's slowdown companies just make less product

CES is going to be a shitshow next year

there are no major launches of anything outside the 9850X3D which will be like $600

No new monitor tech, valve are gonna release the steambox with no ram Valve just ended all production of every steam deck except Steam Deck OLED
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how is 2nm looking?
still as expensive and faulty as 6 months ago?
6090 = $3000?
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>>107637196
took me ages to get past this boss on Elden Rin
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>>107637240
That tape better be electrical tape.
Also just zip tie the fans around the GPU. there's a small gap between the GPU and motherboard. It's what I did to my HBA cards.
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>>107637221
>cable management
Tired of doing that in an RG4T, there is a hard limit with this many drives. Technically it is even worse given this is a Zalman Z3 chassis, but I'll reference my 2015 photos later. If I can get my HAF 932 de-tarred it might solve all my problems.

I just need to make sure everything is working and nothing catches on fire first. Pragmatic needs have come first and I need easy access to my parts. Otherwise I work on it all day as I did today.

My biggest worry right now is not all of the 3 pin fan headers making contact with the controller and the exposed GPU heatsink. Cable management can come later.
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>>107637335
just buy a bigger case dude
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>>107637330
It's regular 3M duct tape for now given someone took my electrical tape, necessary for the load. Hopefully the residue won't be a problem as I only taped the plastic shrouds on the fan and backplate.

I'll try zipping up the card through the rear given I did manage to pop put the remaining slots with some minor capacitor bends and all around on the third fan if I do add it.
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>>107637221
>Do not buy below gold
It's getting difficulty to find golds anywhere these days that aren't at an unnecessarily high wattage.
>>107637292
I've been worrying because my Corsair RM550x caused a spark on the motherboard last year and I had to replace it, and before that, my GPU randomly died despite not being old, and now my aftermarket CPU fan is constantly at max RPM for no identifiable reason as if it were overclocked (even though nothing in my PC is). Now I'm not getting video signal on boot (GPU or integrated) unless I unplug the PC from the wall at the end of each day, as if it needs drained capacitors to even supply power properly.
I'm rather suspicious of it. This is rather stressful.
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>>107637354
I did, but it needs further disassembly and decontamination before use. I have to douse it in alcohol and acetone before repainting it to try and purge the smell.
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>>107637382
oh you're the haf guy yeah it sucks the case is a biohazard
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>>107637374
Stop plugging in your PSU directly in the wall. Buy a UPS. My guess is that your place has dirty electricity and it fucked your PSU. Bronze or gold or plat will shit itself eventually when it's not protected.
But now what your PSU is fucked stop using it, buy a new one and buy a UPS along with it.
Consider that an expensive lesson to protect your electronics using a surge protector/UPS.
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>>107637018
I just sold my 5800x3d and ddr4 ram in a bundle for $700. I had it just sitting there after I upgraded to am5.
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>>107637417
God dammit. I thought these things had been sorted out and designed to filter out dirty power and surges by now.
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>>107637449
I wish I could have a system this clean for the last 10 years. Maybe I need aftermarket cables for my Seasonic PSU.
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>>107637374
Just get this bro

Future proofed
New condition
There's cheaper PSUs on woot but they're 'factort reconditioned ' which im interpreting as open box returns from Amazon

Same goes for GPUs there but take your risk

Fuck you "system thinks is spam"
I'm trying to link Woot to help an anon out on cheap deals
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>The dream once might have been to own a home and maybe that dream got adjusted to "Well I'll just try to buy a nice car instead", That gets adjusted to "I'll just buy a nice computer instead, I can afford that". People will just continually adjust to what they think is achievable. They adjust their ambitions and now these companies want you to subscribe to your computer too.


Damn Steve why you gotta depress me like that.
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>>107637472
It's got some years on it. Bought the FX8350 new in 2012. Built on a Crosshair V Formula-Z.
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>CORSAIR RMx Series RM850x 80+ Gold Fully Modular Low-Noise ATX Power Supply, ATX 3.1 Compatible
On sale for 150 CAD, cop?
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>>107635190
I've seen anons mention using generous amounts of thermal putty to choke the chokes
this is less permanent than superglue and should function pretty similarly on top of being a replacement for your stock thermal pads
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>>107637508
>Oh man computers are expensive, maybe I'll treat myself to some fast food instead. It may be made of ground up horse anus and edible plastic but at least it's chea-
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I wouldn't mind if we went back to Unreal Engine 3. Batman and Mass Effect Legendary Edition still look really good.
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>>107637548
Sure
Double check it has 10 year warranty
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>>107637512
why is in every case the backplate of the cpu open like that?
cooling?
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>>107637599
Cooling and swapping out cooler via brackets though sometimes it doesn't work out
Otherwise it's a bitch to take out the entire seated mobo if you wanna repaste or redo cooler
Like my current case, I'd keep it forever if it didn't have that issue
I might Dremel it when I stop being lazy and rubber gasket the shit out of it
Or use electrical tape for the rough edges
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>>107637508
Bit dramatic, isn't he?
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>>107637599
some coolers require you to use a backplate and you need the back exposed.
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>>107637508
Just do the poorfag thing and use one of those pay later normie apps like affirm. You would already be ahead of most normies who blow all their money on overpriced cocktails on their days off.
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>>107637616
>>107637639
oh so it's an Intel thing
got it
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>>107637672
Depends on cooler
>>107637512 is an AMD motherboard and the cooler had it's own backplate.
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>>107636611
Ive got that same build except 32gb ram and I have been wanting to upgrade for a while just for the sake of it, but stop myself every time because I dont really have any vidya I want to play that I cant.
I think with the vidya drought we might be able to ride this out for a few more years bro
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PC gaming as a hobby is effectively dead. Majority of consumers will never have a PC faster then what they have now. Companies wont make demanding software anymore since basically nobody can run it
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>>107637726
Your PC only needs to be on par with PS5 and thats not difficult since thats just post 2020 machine.
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So the 2-120mm fans on the GPU actually didn't perform bad at first, I foolishly forgot to plug in the power connector for my DC fans so it ran with only the CPU/GPU/exhaust PWMs but it didn't go past 70C on the hotspot running SDXL. Fans were at 600 RPM on the CPU.

The bad news was when I ran Superposition 1080p extreme, where I quickly encountered thermal throttling once a few minutes in. The fans clearly need to speen faster but they did not given it is a GPU focused benchmark, this is what I feared would happen. 96c on the hotspot with 950mv undervolt, thank god I temperature limited it to 80c in afterburner.

I will need to find a VGA to PWM fan splitter to plug directly into the card and use 3 fans at that, likely 800-1000 RPM at least. Otherwise the hard disk buzzing is the loudest thing in the box.
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>>107637726
>It's over. PC gaming has fallen. Billions must not buy.
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pcbros...we got too cocky...consolechads are laughing at us now...
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>>107637508
A sloptuber said ts, don't remember who
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>goodram cx400 back in stock
>2tb now at 780 pln
I should have boughted at 549
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>>107637726
who cares about gaming?
Piracy will not be possible online anymore since they can literally see everything you do on the server.
goodbye privacy.
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To truly be set for the next 5 years minimum I have to spend another $1000.
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>>107637805
This is when living in a third world country feels decent
Although the current president of my shithole is jewish so this might change overnight :(
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It'll eventually get to a point where gamedevs say we are only releasing it on PC on GeForce Now.
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>>107637822
i can imagine a future where nvidia bribes companies to only release on geforce now
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>>107637822
No, they just go back to console exclusives like they used to. PC pirates too much. PS5/Switch2/Xbox are all super locked down there is no piracy to this day.
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If you think about it, gamers funded all this ai mess
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>>107637837
consoles wont exist either they will become prohibitively expensive. The only tech people will have is a phone and TV
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>>107637879
>As of late 2025 (around September/November reports), the PlayStation 5 (PS5) has sold over 84.2 million units
those units didnt magically disappear and they have a fuckton more in warehouses.



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