Microsoft has a goal to eliminate every line of C and C++ by 2030That's a good thing
>>107640627>these people say xthen i think we should do the exact opposite
>>107640627>1,000,000 loc>per monththat's 100 loc per minute on an 8 hour day.windows is fucking done.
>>107640627>microshart shartsand why should I care
>>107640627They7re gonna replace c++ with hot curry and poo
>>107640627Rust probably. Its going to be great when the windows codebase completely collapses.
>>107640627oh no.....
>>107640627No is not, only a complete idiot like you would believe is a good thing.
In 20 years (or less) there will only be Linux nerds and phonetards.
>>107640756also BSD. or maybe only BSD since linux also got infected with rust.
>>107640627Windon't
>>107640788 (checked)>also BSD. or maybe only BSDWhich one?
>>107640627> loc as measurement of productivitythis guy is a midwit, he’s likely a terrible manager and anyone who subjects working for him is gonna have a terrible time
Pure insanity. This kind of decision making is common among those with a deeply held, delusional faith in the Cult of Rust. Take battle tested code, and re-write it (without a clear benefit to the end user) at a recklessly rapid rate. Then force others to adopt that rewritten code before it is ready or properly tested. All while holding a delusional belief that your new Rust code is superior in all ways, and is inherently bug free thanks to the divine nature of Rust.
>>107640627My favorite thing about windows is the lost technology between windows versions.There is handful of supreme sound programs that have stopped working between OS's because some fucking retard has crippled the infrastructure of the sound programs.Then consider the other operating system specific programs.What I am trying to say here is that this is a stupid idea.
A more valuable type project to work on is to fix the broken and lost technology between windows operating system OS.It will make about the same amount of money which is nothing but it will also make some users extremely happy.
>forced telemetry spyware>forced ads>forced ai>forced updates that break features that didnt need to be touched>no one knows what they are doing anymore>almost everything is coded and tested by AI>morale for windows users is at an all time low>upper/senior management at microsoft is completely apathetic to this and just keeps enshittifying their product as much as possibleWhats the next step in their master plan?
>>107640870this is not a rust cult thing unfortunately, its an ai cult thing
>>107640627fucken lmao
>>107640901one thing i appreciate more and more about linusdo not break userspace
>>107640627Next level humiliation ritual.
>>107640922I apreciate linus's no bullshit approach to maintaining linux and making sure that things actually are proven to not only work but provide a clear benefit before being added. It makes sense that he is like this when you remember the entire reason he does anything like linux or even making git is the idea of "this type of thing should exist, i want to do it, it doesnt seem to exist yet, no one else is making it, il do it myself". He designs from the mindset of the user.
>>107640901they don't have a "master plan."there is nobody at the wheel. nobody gives a single shit about the project. all work devoted to the project is done with political intent. the project is not important. the ladder rungs of Microsoft are. the resume ticks are.do you think >>107640627 gives a single shit about the quality of Microsoft code? no (or if he does, it is so far down the list of other things to care about that it is not even worth mentioning). he drank the Kool-Aid of AI development being the future, and he wants to use his political rung within Microsoft in order to commandeer one of the largest AI-fueled developments ever. if he is successful, it will be a massive boost to his career. if he fails, oh well, onto the next career shift. it is an obvious risk to take for a midwit career ladder climber, you almost always take the risk.
>>107640627Linux is not going to follow the same practices, right? Right?
>>107640986yeah but eventually shareholders are going to have to hold their feet to the fire right? or are they just going to make so much money in the AI bubble they wont have to care until it pops.I feel like the way things are going there is going to be a bunch of breaking points of straw that broke the camels back for more and more windows users to just abandon it if things only keep getting worse.
>>107640627C# supports AOT compilation now and can do some neat stuff these days. I don't think it's "system level" language enough to rewrite the entire operating system but it could probably help to debloat some of the shitty bloat apps at the process and service level.
>>107640901A hostile takeover of linux>rust in kernel>rust drivers are mit licensed>proprietize drivers by rewriting windows to rust>nuke india>???>profit
>>107640999Microsoft Windows is the predominant operating system in use across the world. it has not achieved this majority position by being technologically superior to the competition, but by marketing, and by having agreements with computer manufacturers/retail shops where Windows is the default operating system in use. they have also done a lot of marketing.think of the actual average computer user. they do not give a single fucking shit what their operating system is. they care about their system working. if they had learned Linux, they would push through its issues in order to make it work, because all they care about is their system working. when Windows fucks up, they will work through the problem, or around it, in order to get their system working. it is less effort for them to continue to use the buggy system that they know to get work done than to learn a new system.Windows, if it continues to fuck up, will absolutely die, but only by having the curious youth decide to avoid using Windows. curious youth do not have important shit to do with their lives, so they can afford to waste the time needed to learn something like Linux. when, eventually, a superior OS arrives (maybe a Lisp machine, maybe a Smalltalk machine, or whatever the fuck), these now-aged youth will continue to use the shitty Linux because it is what they know, and they have shit to do at that point in their lives.Microsoft will not die. they have Azure. they have .NET. they have their shitty database. they have many niche projects in the business space that are relied upon by many, many industries.
>>107640994It's not, for the most part. If AI is used it's surely without a goal in a million lines of code volume.Who knows what the gnomes will do tho.
>>107640627Microsoft is FUKT. I know someone at azure who changed a comment line and it broke the service. thats why they can only deploy one region per day.
>>107640882>There is handful of supreme sound programs that have stopped working between OS's because some fucking retard has crippled the infrastructure of the sound programs.>Then consider the other operating system specific programs.link to read about this?
>>107641045>>rust drivers are mit licensedis it actually true that MIT has a license for drivers written in rust that are in the linux kernel though? Im sorry I just dont believe that
>>107641118It was you wasn't it?
>>107640627strong-arming 90% of PC's into running on an AI generated Rust rewrite of 30 years of spaghetti code would be an incredible show
