>Use KDE gayland, everything is slow, low fps, input lag, weird frame pacing that doesnt feel smooth even with a smooth frametime graph in games>Use X11 with Xmonad Tiling window manager, It just werks, everything werks, no latency or input lag>High FPS, gaming just werks and I get 20fps+ more than gayland for some reason and its buttery smooth>Fast with zero bloat, Configure everything to my likingAt this point, I wont even use any desktop environment on linux if it isn't X11. Even XFCE is dead to me because it has wayland support. I will never support anything wayland based on linux.I'm X11 pilled.
>>107643396>ITT: NVIDIOT tries to convince himself his purchase wasn't a total waste of time
I have an all AMD pc doe
>>107643432>ITT: NVIDIOT with very old novideo card4060 laptop works on wayland with no problems
>>107643396This is the way, white man.
>>107643396>KDE + WaylandWorks supper fluid on my machineIt's a (You) issue.
>>107643396>contrarian + NEET>probably some (((bleeding edge meme distro)))>having issues>blaming kde>blaming waylandmany such cases
>>10764349614th gen i9 + 4080 laptop hereShould I do it ?
>>107643529Why does my computer get like 20 less fps and seem worse on wayland then?This is a big problem. I have an AMD PC with a 5600X+6700XT.
>>107643518Now try without compositor.
>>107643539It's a known fact, that wayland is having performance issues with games but it is not severe.Work arounds like running dedicated gfx server just for steam or whatever are also an option though.But what you're describing in your post is clearly not how Wayland+ kde behaves.In fact, wayland+kde is even more fluid than x + compositor.source: i switched from X to wayland kde on debian.
>>107643564Its broken by design because wayland still uses X11 even as its own display protocol it has to rely on xwayland bridge.It is an embarrassment to the linux desktop, for what? HDR? People who cant buy the same model monitor?
>>107643599It uses X11 protocol for legacy applications only, it has nothing to do with X11 implementation itself.There is no X11 code in wayland.
>Use KDE + Wayland>Turn on HDR>It works
>>107643704Xwayland is an Xserver. It has to rely on this for everything LMAO.Wayland is a functionally broken and unfinished display protocol
>>107643396How dare you? How dare you say the truth? What about the feelings of the children lovers >:(
>>107643762>It has to rely on this for everything LMAO.No, it has to rely on that for legacy software.(Notice how there are no X11 Unmanaged Windows or X11 Windows in KWin's Debug Console. Why is that? Is it perhaps because I am not running any legacy software?)
x11 werks
>>107643818Except when it doesn't:>>107643759
Its funny how wayland troons always try to deflect and say wayland is the future while ignoring everyone elses usecase, as if everyone is going to switch to guhnome or kde plasma.They are trying to force everyone into a bloated mess that is dubious compared to xorg.
>>107643824Issue closed. Usecase unclear. You don't need that.Who needs features in 2026
wayland bros i dont feel so good
>>107643824No one cares about HDR, it's just excuse to shill Wayland like muh security before. I have HDR and dont use it. I want to see how others see the screen, not enhance it in any way.
>>107643827It's not as if Xorg is free from being a bloated mess either though. It's hundreds and thousands of lines of code that regularly gets security vulnerabilities found in it and is in fact more bloated than Wayland because of its monolithic nature.Wayland detractors want to apply one yardstick to measure against whilst conveniently using a different metric to measure their own back yard.>>107643838Every other operating system cares. Just because YOU think Linux should be inferior does not mean "no one cares".
>>107643835>Wayland solves no issues I haveEVERY SINGLE "Wayland is the anti-christ" article. Okay, keep using X11 then. Wayland solves real problems for other people though.
>>107643396>Use X11 with Xmonad Tiling window managerEvery time you run sudo pacman -Syu it breaks the entire computer.
>>107643838>I want to see how others see the screen, not enhance it in any way.Then you should be using HDR with the metadata passed through to your display that guarantee's you are seeing what others are seeing
>>107643859Name one. No, "HDR" isn't one. It's just the new "3D" gimmic.
>I have HDR and dont use it. Said no one with a monitor actually capable of it.
>>107643838>>107643828>>107643818I'm dying
>>107643564So there is away to escape the input lag on Wayland/gnome, or am I fucked?
>>107644006>WaylandThe problem lies between the keyboard and the chair.
>>107643941That's like saying "Color TV" is just a gimmick
>>107644006I don't know. Both use the same libinput stack. Did you benchmark and profile the latency and is it smaller than your penis?
>>107644044It's more like saying curved displays are a gimmic.Do you really believe that HDR will somehow make you see more colors? If you do, please have your head examined.
>>107643396>uses krasdeNgmi
>>107644087Do you know what HDR is?By the very definition it is a higher dynamic range than standard definition. You sound exactly like the people that thought we should have never moved on from black and white / monochrome TVs because it was better because…uhm…reasons.
