Decades ago Asrock released this. This is the AM2CPU board that you could put on certain Asrock Socket 754 and Socket 939 motherboards that included the Asrock Future CPU port. You could then upgrade those motherboards into AM2 motherboards with this add in card that has the new AM2 cpu socket and new ddr2 slots.Imagine if we had an AM4 motherboard like this. And then once AM5 came out you would just put in your AM5 add in card and now your AM4 motherboard supports AM5.
Imagine buying a 2008 45nm Phenom II CPU, and then having brand new motherboards with upgraded shit like USB3 chip and SATA3 on them until RYZEN?God AMD is a based as shit company, and that AM4 shit where you overwrite the old BIOS with one that works with the newer chips is also based as hell, you buy a motherboard in 2017 and are able to run newer chips than what existed.
>>107651456AM2 was also based. If the MB maker supported bios updates you could put a Phenom II cpu on it. Imagine buying a 90nm Athlon X2 cpu in early 2006. And then in late 2010 buying a Phenom II X6 cpu for it. And you could probably stick with it until Ryzen.
>>107651507Yeah the AM2 support was incredible, keeping your DDR2 and everything but getting a Deneb/Thuban core holy shit.
>>107651294intel had fpga to slot1 adapter long time a go
>>107651294How much cheaper was the CPU upgrade board than a new motherboard?
>>107651512Socket A, AM2 and AM4 are the three AMD platforms that had 5 gens of CPU support. Only intel socket post 2000 that has that sort of support is the legendary LGA 775.
>>107651294Fuck man. Upgraded a 939 socket CPU with ddr1 ram to an am2 cpu with ddr2 and was able to change an AGP GPU to a PCI-E GPU without ever having to upgrade the motherboard. It was also the only way to use an AGP GPU with am2. And you could just upgrade that gpu without changing anything else.Good days. AM4 may have outperformed it with upgradability but back in those days it was really unique.
>>107651565It was a 29€ add in card when AM2 was brand new socket.
>>107651542I think you mean the adapter to put a normal PGA Pentium 3 into the early Slot 1 Pentium 3 motherboards. As far as I know they started out P3 doing the same they did on P2, but then backtracked and went with standard sockets.Back in the day Intel did a lot of stuff for sticking the new thing in the old socket too. I don't think they ever made something for putting a 386 into a 286 board (though a 3rd party did), but they made special Overdrive processors that had all pin translation, clock generation/multiplication, and voltage conversion as needed to put a 486 in a 386 socket, a P5 in a 486 socket, and a Pentium 2 in a P5 socket. These also had a heatsink and often a fan glued on top of the CPU so it was a consumer-friendly one-step drop-in upgrade.
>>107651603Wow that is cheap. Also AM2 lasted fucking forever.
>>107651294Did you have to take out the original CPU and leave the main board RAM slots empty? It would be even cooler if you could keep the old too and have multi processor, or at least have more RAM slots.
>>107651653I'm pretty sure you had to leave the original cpu socket and ram slots empty as you can see here >>107651309Also mixing different DDR spec ram doesn't work. Asrock made DDR1 and DDR2 LGA 775 mb (and even later made a DDR2 and DDR3 LGA 775 mb) You couldn't mix different standards of ram. You had to go either DDR1 or 2 not both.
>>107651653You had to physically change all these jumpers to switch between the two. I think you could theoretically leave the other hardware in it as long as it physically fitted (spoiler: it most likely didn't) but you had to change the jumpers anytime you wanted to switch.
>>107651294It looks like a cool novelty but I doubt it actually makes much sense. So instead of buying CPU + RAM + mobo, you buy CPU + RAM + adapter board. The only money you're saving is whatever the price difference is between a new mobo and the adapter board, which probably isn't going to be much.
>>107651507I lived that. Went from an X2 4200+ to an Phenom X6 1045T. Although I believe you needed the AM2+ and not the vanilla AM2.
>>107651685Not mixing RAM standards makes sense. Still it would be cool if it made something like NUMA where each processor manages the RAM attached to it.
>>107651725Vanilla AM2 mobos also worked if the MB maker supported it. Though for vanilla AM2 most of the time the Phenom II support could only be achieved with a beta bios. MSI K9N Neo V3 is an example of that. ASRock AM2V890-VSTA also had an unofficial bios which gave you Phenom II support.
>>107651815There were also few vanilla AM2 mobos that got you Phenom II support without a beta bios or unofficial one. The Gigabyte GA-M59SLI-S5 (Rev. 1.0) supports up to Phenom II X6 1100T and it's a 2006 released AM2 motherboard.
>>107651507I'm pretty sure my asus commando can do that, the only issue is being limited to DDR2 and PCIE 1.1, phenom 2s are fast enough to support GPUs that need more bandwidth.
>>107651984*asus crosshair, commando is a 775 board
>>107651988Crosshair didn't get Phenon II support. Asus only supported it up to Phenom I
>>107651999I read that it supports AM2+ CPUs but I guess that's meaningless unless the bios got updated. You saved me the trouble of dismantling my XP system at least.
>>107651456Phenom II was Core 2 Quad level, so not that good when you consider it was up against Sandy Bridge / Ivy Bridge / Haswell.I mean they were so far ahead they pretty much completely gave up on researching new CPUs and just released the same thing with a 200MHz clock bump every other year. They had literally 0 IPC gains, all they did was put more components from the motherboard to the CPU and axe things like overclockability (except for select premium CPUs, which shipped with unsoldered heat spreaders so they overclocked horribly bad due to thermal issues).
>>107651294I get the appeal, but the savings over buying a new motherboard seem minimal>What if you bought a high end motherboard?The type of guy to splurge $500+ on a motherboard isn't the type of guy to get concerned with having to buy a new one 5-10 years later
>>107652123>unsoldered heat spreadersIntel was so Jewish for that, I'd be seeing people having cooling problems on Haslel, meanwhile my FX-8350 was having a stupid high TDP with OC, but the thing was actually easy to cool because it was a large soldered heatspreader.
>>107652123>when you consider it was up against Sandy Bridge / Ivy Bridge / Haswell.Phenom II released in 2010, Bulldozer/Piledriver were the competitors to those CPUs (and were shit)
>>107651317>>107651309how the fuck would you fit that back in the tower?
>>107651718>The only money you're saving is whatever the price difference is between a new mobo and the adapter boardAnd your GPU since one board used AGP while the new one only had PCIE boards. So that's some $2-400 saved depending on how good GPU you had, and $30 for the upgrade board instead of $130 for a new motherboard.meaning you saved $3-500. doesn't sound so bad now.
>>107652171Pure AGP systems could cope until ~2009 by which point a good GPU was sub $200
>>107652150>Phenom II released in 2010, Bulldozer/Piledriver were the competitors to those CPUs (and were shit)Read the fucking context you mental midget. He was talking about using Phenoms up until Ryzen. That means he was putting his Phenoms up against Sandy/Ivy/Haslel/etc.
>>107652182or you could get the upgrade board and save $200 on a new GPU and $100 on a new motherboard.
>>107652182>>107652196also, adjusted to inflation that $300 would be like $450 today. no matter what way you look at it, that's a lot of hours spent flipping burgers.
>>107652207Wages back then were the same as they are now (thanks 2008) so your money went a lot further
>>107651294lol pc's are dead people are going back to am4 for fuck sakedowngrading ram and going back to 2015 sockets
>>107652220>pc is dead because people are buying pcs
>>107652220Even more of a reason to bring this back. People are going to AM4 but if this was an option once ram prices went down they could just go to AM5.
>>107652246Has anyone here tried those ddr5 to 4 or sodimm converter things do they work alright?
>>107652291That's not how it works Anon, the So-Dimm riser cards are for hooking up laptop RAM to a desktop CPU, DDR4 is a different technology for the mem controller to work with.
>>107652300oh bother, anyways pc's will be dead by 2030s all according to plan
>>107652171Damn, that was so far back that that AGP was still in use? I guess it makes more sense then, but did it make any sense to upgrade your CPU while still using AGP? I never used those generations of AMD CPUs, I went straight from Socket A to LGA775.
>>107651309>>107651317>>107651294
>>107652596Lol
>>107652157It's shorter than my current heatsink so I'd say you'd fit it by simply not having a problem
>>107652468>Damn, that was so far back that that AGP was still in use?Socket 939 had both AGP and PCIE. I'm only guessing here but 754 probably only had AGP. By the time you had to move from 939 to AM2 (which gave you 0 performance advantage by the way), AGP cards all used PCIE bridges. I remember having the AGP x1950 Pro on my s939 machine with an athlon 64 X2. It was the strongest gaming build I had for a very long time, but had to get rid of it in a few years when moving to a Core 2 Duo and only had a midrange card on that.
>>107651685DDR2 and DDR3 mixed motherboard was very common, especially G41 chipset it limits only 2 RAM slots.Gigabyte, MSI, ASUS also made own combo MB.
>>107652969G41 DDR2 motherboards were so based, the budget builds you could do back in 2010 were really incredible, you could buy a brand new board, and then eBay 4GB of RAM, a Core 2 duo, Pentium, whatever you could get cheap, some cheap ass video card and it was fast enough, I was using an Optiplex 745 from 2014 to 2017 so if I had built such a thing back in 2010 that would've been a hell of a value, it's probably one of my biggest tech regrets other than doing an LGA 1366 build, cause the G41 build would've been in my budget
>>107651294>imagine instead of buying a new board for new cpu and ram, you buy an extension board for new cpu and ram (won't work with the old ones)
>>107651294I had an Asrock board years ago that had both an AGP slot and a PCI-express slot. Seems they're the only ones that do shit like that.
