Why are ""people"" (gamers) still so anti-VA? Modern VA panels have absurdly fast response times on par with IPS (faster actually except for black to black). On the plus side you get the blackest blacks, whitest whites and no backglow messing up everything. I understand OLED is superior to both and TN is the competitive choice but it's weird seeing how many people still tell each other to steer clear of VA when your average $200 VA panel is almost certainly better than a $200 IPS one.
>>107655967Do you think "gamers" even think about panels? Homie they just see spaceship design and the 280hz sticker and buy it.
>>107655967Because of the terrible viewing angles. I'm a human being and I move around I don't sit perfectly aligned with the screen
>>107655974I don't really think so but ultimately they are the ones spamming all the comment sections telling people to not buy VA
>>107655967And tell me anon, what good is all of that when you're unable to see it clearly?
>>107655998>don't put on your glasses>"deez monitors r sux"
>>107655967>I understand OLED is superior to both/thread
>>107656010There's still a big market for people who can't afford OLED/are afraid of burn-ins. For them I feel like VA is often the superior choice and they're being lied to by gaymers mentally stuck in 2015.
>>107655967i have a 24" 1080p VA because i wanted 240Hz, deep blacks, and it was crazy cheap. plan is to wait for next gen 32" 2160p OLEDs with RGB subpixel layout. VA viewing angles are a bit ridiculous even if you sit straight in front of the monitor but wanting to sit close to it for immersion.
I bought a VA mini led for media/gayming and one ips for anything else. You get the best of both worlds and still and up spending less than a single low tier oled.
>>107656039I own both an IPS and VA 280/240HZ monitor by same manufacturer. I did so because I thought I could play CS on the IPS and watch movies on the VA. I actually do all my competitive shooters on the VA and have the IPS to stream Youtube at 280hz.
>>107656053I've been meaning to get a mini LED is there actually a tangible difference in blacks between IPS and VA with mini LEDs from the little stuff I've seen they seemed about the same with VA just having the usual terrible angles
The only valid argument I see against VA is black smearing.
>>107656119Never tried ips mini led on a monitor, but I'm a bit traumatized from that tech because I remember buying some ips tv from LG that did have local dimming but the amount of zones was so small that watching any dark scene was a fucking shitfest in terms of blooming. I would probably only consider one if it has lots of dimming zones. With va blooming is naturally less of an issue but obviously not as good as oledThat said I'm not sure what everyone is talking about concerning shit viewing angles on VA because I'm not really noticing that on mine.
>>107656150It's hardly valid anymore. 2 years ago 240hz VA monitors entered the market for less than $200 which have next to zero smearing left. Lower refresh rate ones such as Samsung Odyssey series VA panels have no smearing left because their response times fall entirely within the 1/165 window
>>107655993We're talking about VA not TN, there isn't that much shift with viewing angles. You're sitting in front of your screen, right? You not trying to game at an obtuse angle, are you? Then you'll be fine
>>107656177MiniLED is based. My VA has uh a little over 1000 zones I think and the effect is great, there's a small amount of blooming with say text on a black screen but the monitor is tuned well enough that it isn't intrusive, it almost just looks like a blooming effect of the eye I used to have a screen with like 8 dimming zones though and it was the worst shit ever
>>107655967>Modern VA panels have absurdly fast response timesFalse unless selecting very specific panels and even then they are not fast>(faster actually except for black to black)it's faster but it's not faster, bad logic here4>>107655967>when your average $200 VA panel is almost certainly better than a $200 IPS one.the average low end va panel is fucking bad compared to the equivalent ipsVA is shit for monitors, completely unusable for TVs (even slower)for TVs if you are a gaymer you have to buy oled or you are a masochist retardfor monitors it's more complicated>>107656189>2 years ago 240hz VA monitors entered the market for less than $200 which have next to zero smearing left.they literally have smear and suck cocks
>>107656504[backlight glow intensifies]
>>107655967Gamers prefer VA though.
>>107655994>spammingThose are Indian shillsThose are Indian (or some other version of asian) shills every time.
>>107656700everything smearing every time you move, the gamers preferencegamers used to buy TN but they got downgraded to VA for the poorfag category and got doghsit instead, only paying a bit more gets you an IPSit's like you get downgraded all the timethis used to be common knowledge until brainrot kicked in howevernow you got zoomies and browns buying VAcrazy>>107656695use your panel correctly
>>107656955VA is faster
>>107655967what's weird is how much you care
>>107656254agreed, and what's crazy is it's become really affordable with chink companies selling their own monitors instead of letting western brands use their panels for double the priceI got a 250€ mini led 27 inch 1440p monitor off amazon that completely moggs every western brand va model at that price rang Crossing my fingers for cheng ram and gpu's
>>107657059the sky is green
>>107655967The smearing made me motion sick so I had to get rid of mine. I hate that the options are >Smudgey black smears on any motion>Light bleed and inconsistent color calibration>Burn in>EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAnd now they're all going to get 200% more expensive with ai labels slapped on them.
All screens are bad, go play real games in the real world and do real things
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>>107657402We really can't win
>>107657458>>>107655967 (OP)>>Modern VA panels have absurdly fast response times>False unless selecting very specific panels and even then they are not fast>>(faster actually except for black to black)>it's faster but it's not faster, bad logic here4>>107655967 (OP)>>when your average $200 VA panel is almost certainly better than a $200 IPS one.>the average low end va panel is fucking bad compared to the equivalent ips>VA is shit for monitors, completely unusable for TVs (even slower)>for TVs if you are a gaymer you have to buy oled or you are a masochist retard>for monitors it's more complicated>>>107656189>>2 years ago 240hz VA monitors entered the market for less than $200 which have next to zero smearing left.>they literally have smear and suck cocksjust stop caring.
>>107657402Some of the more recent IPS displays I've gotten have somehow made the glow much less noticeable. It's still there, but not as obvious as the distractingly uneven glow I got on a display from around 2015.
