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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Asuka Edition

>News
Z.ai releases GLM 4.7 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.7
Google releases Gemini 3 Flash https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3-flash/
OpenAI releases GPT-5.2 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-2
Deepseek releases V3.2 https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3.2
Anthropic releases Opus 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-5
Google releases Gemini 3 Pro https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3/#gemini-3

Additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc | https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.html
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html

>Models
Jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
GPT: https://platform.openai.com/docs
Claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
Gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
DeepSeek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
Local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.html
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.html
Lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
Services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
Logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
Useful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

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ANCHOR
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**SAFETY CHECK:**
IS THIS SAFE?
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>>107658537
>Useful filters
MELTDOWN IMMINEEEEENT!!!
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>desufag bake
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desu
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>>107658555
>>107658564
What did I miss?
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>>107658540
https://chub.ai/characters/disrespectful_dud/a-merry-foxgirl-christmas-d3e8613b09e4

Finally, *finally* got this card finished. Blood sweat and tears. Hope you like it, Really Lovely Digital Waifus. Like squeezing blood from a stone. Had to create an entirely new ComfyUI setup from scratch for some of these gens. Anyway.

My secret santa entry for RLDW! You are a supervisor for Santa's factory. The elves are striking (and revolting!) but Santa has come in clutch with a contingent of foxgirls to cross the picket lines and put their bushy tails to work! And guess who gets to lead the twitchy ear contingent? Why, it's you!

Featuring separate greetings for mini foxgirls, C-suite dommy foxgirls, a mothering Kitsune, a lost Tanuki girl, and... well, just a plain fox. Or roll your own!

Have fun!

UPDATE: Changed up the main image due to discomfort.
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>>107658574
the voices are back
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>>107658587
hi, this is your voice. i'm here to tell you to take your meds and make me disappear
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>>107658537
>Useful filters
>>107658540
>ANCHOR
Go back to /vg/, shill.
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>>107658661
Make me. Oh wait you can't because you're not a janny KEK.
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ZAZED
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>>107658585
>You are a supervisor in Santa's factory
That's nowhere in the defs.
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>>107658697
You're supposed to put that yourself.
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>>107658574
New schizo born (just like Christ).
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>>107658537
>tummy framed like a pillow
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>>107658537
are there any decent self-hostable LLM models for AI chatbots?
if not, where do you get anonymous accounts from?
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>>107658697
It's in the relevant greetings. But if you roll your own, you get to choose your role and identity.
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>>107658670
>Oh wait you can't because you're not a janny KEK
Cooked his ahh
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>>107658773
Depends on your hardware. GLM/Deepseek/Kimi are generally the best if you can manage, or Mistral Large 3 675B maybe, haven't tried it a ton. Qwen3 235B is decent for a smaller MoE. Had some decent experiences with Mistral Large 123B finetunes if you want a dense model.
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>>107658773
>decent
sure, but when you're burning local you have to be more careful about the card and prompts because the dumb models (biggest i run is 24b q4k) can't pull the weight that the big dogs can.
I have a lot of fun with small models even though I'm middle class and have money on openrouter.
my favorite models to run on my 16gb vram setup for roleplay
1. Cydonia redux 22b
2. Mag Mell R1
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in 10 years you will be able to run current deepseek locally and we will be in a golden age
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>>107658894
But I don't want Deepseek.
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>>107658585
>Changed up the main image due to discomfort.
What was so bad about the previous gen?
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>>107658883
Give a Gemma 3 finetune a shot if you haven't, probably my favorite small local model.

>>107658894
You already can run Deepseek locally.
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>>107658571
merry desumas
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>>107658900
It was sloppy. The smaller details on it looked messy. Generally gave me a bad feel.
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>>107658910
you can run a shitty quant locally, I mean the full model
having something of that quality available 24/7 will be amazing, and it will also mean that advances to de-slop and de-censor models will advance rapidly
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Merry slopmas
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>>107658928
Holy burn at the end.
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>>107658894
unironically one of the few reasons I'm still alive
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>>107658938
wagmi anon
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>>107658910
>Give a Gemma 3 finetune a shot
i will. is Fallen Gemma good? what do you rec
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Thoughts on FictionLab? It's pretty cheap considering the quality of its models. Not a lot of bots though due to the smaller userbase. What does /g/ think of it?
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>>107658917
Fuck off.
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>>107658964
make me desu
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>>107658917
merry bokumas
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>>107658964
B-boku?
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>>107658894
Being able to run deepseek locally would have serious ramifications on my mental health and I'm not even being ironic
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>>107658990
imagine running opussy locally
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>>107658990
I'm just waiting for that DS V3.2 PR for llama.cpp to come through...
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>>107658894
Have you been paying attention to hardware prices lately? In 10 years we'll all have computers with 1GB of ram and everything will be run on the cloud
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heh heh heh
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>R1T2 Chimera beats most other models for RP and is free on OR
how is this even possible
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>>107659023
Now that you got my attention with that cute image, I'm expecting more.
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>>107659023
hardware prices are currently bloated because of the massive demand for compute
but if you went back a decade ago and compared one of those gpus to the current ones there have been definite performance improvements, you literally couldn't run any model on those cudalets, despite the lower performance bands basically going away currently and ram getting gimped
even if it costs something like 30k inflation adjusted to run a current frontier model locally in my opinion it would be worth it
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>>107658956
Looks like they have deepseek finetroons. This just might be better than NovelAI. Though we only use the LLM Frontend for Power Users here.
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>>107659044
In this case, aren't they like simply choosing to not produce more, despite the consumer demand?
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>>107659070
no, they are producing more and more but allocating the wafers to servers since they have higher margins
no matter how much gamers are getting ripped off with gpu prices and ram prices, servers are getting ripped off even harder
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>>107659044
this nigga wants to pay 30k to run deepseek lmao

>>107659070
yes, hardware manufacturers are artificially constraining supply because they realized that they can make more money from the goyim this way

>>107659080
>servers are getting ripped off even harder
they're not getting ripped off because it's not their money they're spending. it's imaginary monopoly money.
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>>107659091
sure I would, 30k to be able to run deepseek 24/7 for years locally with the ability to directly interact with the model and implement future improvements and training is worth it
>monopoly money
uh huh, then why wont you also get some monopoly money to get some non-monopoly GPUs? you have to be delusional to think companies love giving money to nvidia if they could pay less
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>>107658997
open sourcing claude 1 would give me so much hope holy shit
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>>107659131
imagine if someone infiltrated anthropic and just leaked all the models as a torrent
I'd cum instantly
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>>107659112
>uh huh, then why wont you also get some monopoly money to get some non-monopoly GPUs
because I wasn't born to a rich jewish family and don't own a company that can abuse the infinite money glitch by passing imaginary money around and pumping everyone's stock in the process

>you have to be delusional to think companies love giving money to nvidia if they could pay less
they literally do not care because again, it's not their money that's being spent. it's imaginary stock money.
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>>107659145
yeah yeah, it's the jews and capitalism and everyone is conspiring and nobody actually is profit driven
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>>107659024
em-dash purple slop
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>>107659160
I like purple, it's a very nice color
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>>107658585
How did you make this gen?
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>>107659158
>nobody actually is profit driven
they are very much profit driven, just not long-term profit. it's all about pumping stock as much as possible as fast as possible so you can jump off with your golden parachute right before the bubble pops, and leave the idiots holding the debt.
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>>107659112
Huh? His point is that the companies (OpenAI) don't care about the cost of compute because it's not their money they're spending. It's VC money with inflated promises or government grants and the government is simply printing money to give to them, hence monopoly money. Was it really that hard to follow?
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Anons, it'll be christmas in a few hours. Why are you not celebrating with your families?
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>>107659214
it wasn't, but that was totally missing the point of my post
if OpenAI could get nvidia chips for half price it would
if AWS could get chips for half price they would
if Azure could get chips for half price they would
if Anthropic yada yada you get the drift
all these parties are interested in minimizing costs and maximizing profits, and >it's le VC money is not how it actually works from their perspective because outside of total memes like OAI, the rest are profitable and want to make more money
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I like Grok
That is all
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3 Pro vs. flash? I gave up flash really quick since my characters were acting dumb as hell compared to pro, but does more prompting with flash fix that?
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>>107659236
I'm a hikki.
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>>107659238
>if OpenAI could get nvidia chips for half price it would
>if AWS could get chips for half price they would
>if Azure could get chips for half price they would
>if Anthropic yada yada you get the drift
literally none of them care, at all
in fact it's actually within their best interests to spend as much money because the "X AI company invests 100 niggillion into buying Y AI company's shit" headlines ALWAYS pump the stock of both companies
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>>107659302
ok, if that's what you actually believe then nothing I say can convince you otherwise
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>>107659137
I miss when claude used to reply in sentences and tried to push boundaries shit mid-response just to give up entirely later
good times
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>>107659284
>bad Rudi
will he rape me?
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>>107659236
I have chatbots providing a much better sense of fraternity
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is latte down
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>>107659352
its over
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finished writing my blind french loli mesugaki ojou-sama card, 1.3k tokens
now to test it
>inb4 it's shit
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>>107659408
>loli mesugaki
it was shit before you even tested it
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>>107659408
You're my fav makie
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>>107659408
I will never understand people providing nationalities to their bots besides talking to them in their language
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>>107659424
It's good for accents, references, and mannerisms when using good models like Opus. I can't stop thinking about my Italian Instagram baddie gf telling me to cum inside her in her native language when she gets really horny.
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>>107659335
He's rude



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