MacOS anons, how will you deal with homebrew removing the --no-quarantine flag and them removing all deprecated packages (that fail MacOS gatekeeper checks) next September?
>oi you got a signature to install thatshithole company
>>107666947None of my packages will be deprecated so idk what you think I should do, gurpreet.
>>107666947i don't get it, apple fags waste their whole energy claiming their system is superior but then they have to live with the cope tool called brew? i don't get it ma dudes
>>107667359homebrew is am immensely powerful package manager, what is there to cope about?
>>107667401whats the amount of packages it provides, 10? 20? like its a joke bro, cant even compete with the broken mess that is the archlinux aur ecosystem
>>107667436Around 15.500 packages, good enough for me.
>>107667436Keep on simping for that aur that distributes malware fag
>>107666947I never had to use that shit. For anyone producing software worth using, coughing up the money for a signing cert is not a big deal. It's only a big deal for thirdies who sign malware with it and who mald when their cert gets revoked, their softwareinsta-disarmed the moment it's downloaded and they get banned from buying a new cert.Say what you want, but signing is a very effective way to stop retards from getting infected. People who know what they're doing can still bypass gatekeeper. Win-Win.
>>107667488you have zero reading comprehension, i was pointing out how the garbage that is aur is yet better that hombrew
>>107667498>People who know what they're doing can still bypass gatekeeperYou mean via xattr? I always liked homebrew as a one stop shop for all my software, I'm not looking forward to getting all programs independently directly from the developers and doing that xattr shit for every single one.
>>107667401>immensely powerful>can't downgrade packages>can't build from sourceGNU+Linux comes with real tools unlike your kindergarten OS
>>107667503Ah, I see. So homebrew won't even download those for you. That actually sucks and is a retarded decision.Like normie users download homebrew to install software. Normies use the app store which enforces sandboxing, so whom are they really protecting here?And what does this have to do with Intel?
>>107667506What do you need a package manager for, if you want to build from source?
>>107667518I want to compile the binaries myself, retard
>>107667511>So homebrew won't even download those for you.Currently you can still download those "deprecated packages" with the --no-quarantine flag. It wasn't yet removed. If it gets removed, you'll have to get the packages elsewhere if I understood correctly. I hope devs stop being poor and start signing their shit.
>>107667506This. I made an M1 my homeserver and this shit just randomly upgraded the PHP version while offering no way to downgrade, due to the PHP-INTL package now being builtin, or something. Can't downgrade either.And that of course broke Nextcloud because of course that shit can't deal with a .1 version bump.And that's not even mentioning that homebrew assumes a single user system. Like any sane person, I run the different software as different users which is Unix security 101, but completely foreign to homebrew and its "brew services" shit. Homebrew is a joke and I'm considering going for nix instead.
>>107667523Then you don't need a package manager, jut get the source code from github and compile away
>>107667537I've been using nix-darwin for a few months and it slots in nicely with my existing NixOS+Home Manager configs>>107667539>"just do it manually because this immensely powerful package manager can't"
>>107667548When did you transition, sister?
>>107667548>I've been using nix-darwin for a few months and it slots in nicely with my existing NixOS+Home Manager configsThanks, I'll try it. I don't look forward to redoing all that shit, trying to get launchd to tell you WHY it won't start your service is one of the most frustrating tasks I've ever had to do and it makes me yearn for systemd or even SysV init.
>dictating to customers what they're allowed to run on their own hardwareis now>security mechanismand the sheep eat it up
>>107667599macOS stops the one attack vector that actually matters that no other OS closes - Meghan from HR double clicking malware.pdf.exeWindows has pages upon pages of security feature in their OS, but for "backwards compatibility" reasons, can't fix this one attack that actually matters.Loonix doesn't do any better here either. Run an executable, the account running it and all of its files and secrets are pwned. Malware doesn't distribute itself as a docker container or flatpak that would make it sandboxed.
>>107667693>he thinks malware can't escape sandboxessweet summer child https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_machine_escape
Apple wants to turn Macs into "cotton ball" appliances instead of computers. Either embrace the penguin or enjoy being in baby mode for the rest of your life. Windows 12 will do the same thing.
>>107667722I have no idea why you're suddenly starting to talk about VMs when nobody brought it up.But even then - Malware can't escape a VM if the malware never runs at all.
>>107667755>if if if if if my grandma wasn't dead, she would be alive
>>107666947I dont use many homebrew packages, most are from nix-darwin
>>107667693>Windows can't fix this one attack that actually mattersThe enterprise ones can when they're joined to a domain with sufficiently restrictive rules.It's really fucking annoying.
