>EUV lithography>2000s technology>2025>chinks can't even make a prototype That is not even competition, they are so behind. Even if ASML stop researching and making new machines, chinks would be still at least 15 years behind.
Nah, Trump would simply not defend you when China came for looking their ASML machines.Hope you've been brushing up on your Cantonese.
>Even if ASML stop researchingESL, filipino macaco larping as a white man
>>107674319>2000s techEUV tech only reached production during late 2018 (tape out trials) - early 2019 (low rate) with TSMC. Samsung was 1 year later for their DRAM (something that backfired). Intel came 2 years later with limited use of EUV in early 2022.
Reminder that the world's semiconductor manufacturing relies on the inertia of a handful of companies that have been iterating the process year-after-year and decade-after-decade. Modern manufacturing is extremely sensitive to the slightest changes in variables at the microscopic level. It is almost impossible to match the cutting edge by starting from scratch (this is what China is having trouble with despite throwing massive amounts of talent and capital at the problem.) A devastation in the chain, like an invasion or natural disaster in Taiwan, would set the semiconductor industry back by decades while they re-establish and re-learn the proper techniques and processes.
Why are they spending trillions on ai when we can't even produce more than a few hundred of these machines?
>>107677094Can't power it. We can't excavate enough coal to power it all, we can't build enough renewables fast enough to power it all, nuclear reactors take over a decade to become active from approval, at this rate they'll finally allow commercial fusion just to power all this shit.
>>107674319Nobody can make a prototype, not just ChinksNot Americans.Not Russians.Not Asians.Only Europe.
>>107676887>A devastation in the chain, like an invasion or natural disaster in Taiwan, would set the semiconductor industry back by decadesNo it wouldn't lol. TSMC is only used commonly since 2018 and hardware wasnt that bad back then.Second, the only proprietary thing TSMC has is defect detection, to make it economically viable. Otherwise they purchase the machines from other companies (non Taiwanese).So we would be fine. We would still have pre 7nm hardware which is okay for 98% of people and the remaining 2% could still have their EUV hardware, it would just cost more
>>107677450i have one in my garage
>>107674319Could you make one OP?
Why ASML is allowed to make those machines in Netherlands and not in America? Trump should bring all its technology back, only America should allowed to make EUV machines and its components like mirrors and consumables.-
>>107674453A company isn't a person, Rajesh. "Even if ASML stop researching" is correct
>>107677450>only Europe can innovateAlways has been
>>107679429It's a joint American-Dutch venture. There's no need to move it right now.
