how much slop is acceptable /g/?
>>107680688>it's good when AI does it
>>107680688I would honestly not be surprised if overreliance on AI led to such society-wide enshittification that it causes a total collapse
>>107680688>viscosityPseud
>>107680688niggas will say this and then shit themselves when AI code introduces a security vulnerability or a bug that loses them money (e.g. by ruining the customer experience or raping cloud resources)
>>107680688I dont care about it, as long as the agentic coder does a job I want. They can do it in pigeon speak or gibrish speak code for all I care. My demand is simple. Feature functionality, speed, efficiency, memory, working, etc.
>>107680688Explaining quantity v quality like it's mind blowing shit. What a retard.
>>107680688read big ball of mud
>>107680757Name one company that has went bankrupt due to a security vulnerability.Hell, name one company that has lost revenue due to a security vulnerability.Actually, fuck that, name one company that hasn't become bigger since having a security meltdown.
>>107680688Thing is the competitors are shipping crap that doesn't work. You can either join them and blend into the crowd, or stand out as one of the few remaining quality devs. The choice is yours.
>>107680688If even with said "perfectly crafted" code we got catastrophics CVEs, I can't imagine what those slop codes are gonna do... Imagine 2035 if Java were made today with AI
>the way we did it pre-AIthose clowns did it so poorly that Rust looks like an unironically good option now, not even joking, Rust is still a pile of crap sadly.
>>107680688I'm pretty happy with AI's possibilities but unimpressed by how it actually gets used.A lot of people seem to want to wax endlessly about how it's actually great to take the path of least resistance and blend in with the herd, even though we don't yet know if it's a herd of elephants or a herd of sheep.Really, they're just trying to balm their shame at admitting they want to lower the bar for excellence, instead of trying to use AI with great pride to widen the knowledge gap between them and those who don't have access to it.I wonder what the path of greatest resistance would be if you insisted on using AI effectively
>>107680688>hey i just graduated CS with straight A's, got a couple of internships, i've coded a compiler and game engine by myself, you think maybe i get some mentorship and you guys have some patience with me if i get hired there? i'm not sure i can ship perfect code for your codebase from day one, perhaps will take me a few weeks to readup and adjust>tough luck eat shit and die kid, you dont belong here, we are le greybeard celebrity programmers, we dont fuck around, only true hackers are allowed here>hey check out this AI slop some llm shat out>*soiface* ship it! ship it now! we must deliver! bugs dont matter we must ship itsad
>>107680844these two situations describe same problem
>>107680688Doing things fast was always an option. You could release untested garbage and be faster than anyone else before AI existed. I feel this isn't as much about "competing" as it is just an absolutely desperate attempt at validating AI.>I-it's true that it can only produce garbage. B-but it's okay because we can live with garbage!We could live with garbage, too, before doubling the power bill and making ram cost 2k.
>>107680688Ai is going to start writing such vast quantities of undecipherable code that no one is going to know how shit works anymore, and the only way to build upon it will be with ai. We will slowly lose control of the systems that run our lives to a lobotomized retard.
>>107680732How will it lead to total collapse? People will be forced to accept it, and everything is a subscription. 100% of your income will flow to the major companies and you'll have no say in what you use.
I'm waiting for the first company to blow up due to vibe coded slop breaking.
>>107680688>Perfectly crafted codeThis guy legit has no idea how software is build.But his conclusion is spot on, AI will increase bugs to an unimaginable amount. Pick your poison I guess.
>>107680688>how much slop is acceptable /g/?is it free? 100% slopdo I have to pay for it? 0% slopsimple as
>>107680688So when the military hands over control of weapons to AI made from slop nothing could possibly go wrong?
>>107680765I hope you like bugs, bloat and applications taking even more memory from the JS slop you're currently using because that's the promise of AI. It was trained on github data which is at least 90% beginner hello world/todo/similar applications which are full of errors and general bullshit, which is to be expected from novices. LLM's are a scam.
>>107680688>now we can shovel even faster! XDThank you for making the world a better place @rythenigger
>>107680688>Manager class retard postOpinion discarded.
>>107680919Because Boeing is going to use vibe engineering to design their next airplane. Just watch
I think the ecosystem where customers use good programs and programmers program those good programs and QA checks that the work is good will win in the end. rywalker is just another LLM wrapper company founder, so of course he shills this stuff on X.But obviously there is such a thing as good enough.
>guy who works at a company based on meme learning is shilling MLcrazy........................................................................................
>>107680688>perfectly crafted the way we did it pre-aiyikes
>>107680960it's already being done
>>107680688I'm ok with this. Who would have thought tecchies will simply go full-retard and start doubling, tripling and quadrupling down on unsustainable incompetence?
>>107680919>totalnuka cola mfr decides to have ai manage the plants. ai finds insufficient quantity of cola for next month, overabundance of nuka. decides make 50% nuka beverage - which kills the enjoyer. demand drops due to population decrease, continued nuka shipments cause increase in overabundance, ai raises nuka content to 100%. maybe some shit like that
>>107680732it can't possibly be any worse than enjeetification of software over the last ~15 years
>>107680957This, it's just the way it worked before. Nothing changed.Pay a jeet 200 rupees a month = 100% slop Pay a jeet $ 300K a month = 0% slopJust don't be poor
>>107680688> just let customers be our beta testersDeja vuI've just been in this time beforeHigher on the beatAnd I know it's a place to goCalling you and the search is a mysteryStanding on my feetIt's so hard when I try to be me, yeah
