> learn to code.
who is using the ai coding tools, they should apply for the jobs of the people who use those tools instead
>>107685648I hope some unemployed genius cs graduate manages to create a startup using AI that destroys all of Silicon Valley kikes
ok but... where will they get intermediate and senior level devs once current ones die out?is it a case of>I'll be dead by then not my problem lol
>>107685838>gets replaced by mexichads
>>107685856>mexicans that replaced anon get replaced by other foreigners willing to work for even less moneySomething something circle of life.
>>107685648Learn to code with AI. And I don't mean vibe coding or even coding assistance. You can program with those things.>>107685838Robotics is coming. In any case, if white collar works gets automatized and construction and trades for some reason don't, where do you think laid off white collar workers will go, and what do you think it will do to construction and trades wages?
>>107685648I thought Computer Science was about math and not coding THOUGH
>>107685917>where do you think laid off white collar workers will go, and what do you think it will do to construction and trades wages?Let's see, do I hire $10/hr ethnic guy with actual trades experience or laid off white collar wagie who needs $200K a year?
>>107685941its a bit of everything, id say 1/3rd math, 1/3rd coding, 1/3rd system design and hardware
>>107685941>Computer Science
>>107685648I got 1.5 million in my retirement account but I got laid off from my software job. Dunno wtf to do with my life. Trying to find a wife but it's so painful. I just wanna have a family man wtf :(
>>107685967absolute state of MIT """"education""""
>>107685648WAAAOOOOW! Thanks for bringing us this extremely urgent and never before heard take! Straight from the fine journalists at Cointelegraph also!
>>107685974Buy one from Vietnam
>>107685838Jeets should become roofers?
>>107685974>I stopped riding the corporate cock and want to settle down
>>107685648This is partially, not wholly, down to new grads expecting high 6 figures because they (sometimes) showed up and got straight Cs.5 figure jobs in less expensive places still exist if you treated college like a job and got internship experience like you were supposed to. t. recently employed new grad
>>107685974>get wife>divorce wife>"UHM, you gotta pay settlement and alimony until either of you dies btw"anon, don't do it. anon, there's merit to solitude. anon, just take the CNC-3D print DIY engineering pill.Many online autists do it anon
>>107686154Interesting. Do you use AI when working?
>>107686192 I'm tired of creating child processes. I wanna create real kids!! As a family!
>>107685809way ahead of you
>>107686211Rarely, and to a much lower extent than a lot of my peers. The job I got specifically requires no AI use, so I'm working my way back down to zero use. I basically only use AI for examples of syntax and how to call libraries I'm not familiar with.
>>107685648(((they))) pushed the learn to code shit because they wanted to fuck over workers and drive down labor costs and it worked. in the 80s and 90s they did this to other stem jobs. that's why they kept pushing stem
>>107686154this
>>107685834more like >by then I'll liquidate my stock options and retire and therefore it isnt my problem everyone with any decision making power is compensated based on quarterly stock growth goals and wont be with the company by the time the stock prices fall
daily reminder
>>107686154>go to college so you dont need to flip burgers>what? are you too good to flip burgers? btw we hired some indians for $10/hr
>>107685917The sad thing about all of this is that the menial labor has been the same as it always was.Historically back when there was the world fairs there was superior methods to building large fantastic structures the likes of which the world has never seen before. They were built in little to no time with these methods.These structures were blown up afterwards and the highly skilled labor was never adopted.The low intelligence people who are selected out of school at an early age never adopted such a method and they never respected those who chose to take further education. Later on the sheer mass of those low intelligence people ended up killing the few intelligent people who embraced new ways.
>>107685945>t retarded who doesn't actually own a houseGood luck finding anyone skilled to do anything for 10$ an hour
seeing all these techbros being fucked by ai is delicious.
>>107686373H1b is just the tip of the iceberg. Opt extensions for the student visas number in the hundreds of thousands and there is no cap. Those are entry level jobs being stolen directly from US recent grads. And yes, Chinese and Indians are the largest receivers of opt.
>>107686457>t. loser who never did anything with his faggot life and is now delighting at other people ending up just a destitute as he is.
>>107686510i am an altruistic coder, not a career one; i am not afraid of ai.
>>107686558Every time there is a crash, I also celebrate. Finally all those low output, low skill, low moral, backstabbing menial workers will get rug pulled and all the money they think they deserve will go to their boss.
>>107686429I was being hyperbolic because this is 4chan, replace with any number lower than what you'd pay a software engineer unless you enjoy being intentionally obtuse and asserting that people are willing to pay more to have software engineers put up drywall in their homes.
>>107686510That what happened to you? That's rough buddy.
>>107685834lead dev here. we haven't hired juniors in years and will probably not in the foreseeable future. these ai tools, while flawed, are still very useful, especially for writing one-off scripts, boilerplate code, and performing tightly constrained tasks that'd you'd normally toss to a junior. they're also decent as an additional (non-blocking) linting layer and can even sometimes have useful insights for more open-ended problems. their biggest flaw is that they don't have good strategic judgment, especially wrt architectural tradeoffs and business impact.tldr: juniors are fucked, seniors+ will be safe, and mid-levels are in the gray zone. I don't particularly care because 1. not my problem (tm), and 2. half the juniors are retards that are only trying to break in because they watched one of those "a day in the life of" videos and are only in it for the 8 hr/day foodfest vacation "vibes" and a guaranteed 300k/yr tc because "they deserve it". the market is currently filtering out those without true passion and knack for rigor and quite frankly it's been a long time coming. if you barf out a "correct" answer to a programming puzzle but can't logically prove to me why it still works/breaks when I add twists on the fly, you're ngmi.
Want a CS job? Be him. The truth is you can't get a job because that's what you're worth - nothing. Most people aren't a value add to a business.
>>107686895usecase for discovering new space objects?
>>107686902literally nothing. searching for floating rocks in space has no practical value to society.
>>107685890TPBP.Abolish Crapitalism.
>>107686895>The truth is you can't get a job because that's what you're worth - nothing. Most people aren't a value add to a business.Speaking from experience huh? Don't worry kiddo the job market will improve eventually.
>>107685974If you're not LARPing: Don't marry. Imagine only getting $500,000 from your work because you had someone ride the cock carousel to your stop.
>>107686902pushes data science forward so your retarded chatbat can order coffee better. its like darpa.
>>107686934Ok if I don't marry then how do I have kids?
>>107686969just go pump and dump random tinder thots until you find one that won't abort. make sure you use a fake name/alias so you won't be on the hook
>>107686999Motherfucker I'm trying to raise a good family not be a deadbeat to some fucking whore
>twitter screencap threadYou would have to be a senile boomer to fall for this shit. Nothing is being replaced by llms, they're just using them as cover to offshore everything and stop hiring citizens because this year has been a disaster financially.
>>107686397Thinking you're too good to work is the exact problem.
>>107687020>I'm trying to raise a good familyunless you were born into a very religious culture where women get ostracized for whoring out, that's just not gonna happen
>>107687101>wage slave for poverty wages while we sell you out to india, live in the pod and eat the bugsnah, hit fag boy seff rollins music
>>107687101Nice cope too bad no one gives a shit.
>>107685648>some crypto "news" outletSure they are.
>>107687164coping implies success, saying "nice cope" implies that the other party is able to sufficiently deal with a distressing situation. you're basically handing them a "i won this argument" card
>>107686895>fighter jet ridegay unless I get stick time too
>>107687311I'd post the old internet arguments won image but you're clearly too low IQ to understand sarcasm.
>>107685856>gets deportedNot my problem
>>107687380>replaced by H1B jeet>Not my problemI guess it isn't if you plan on killing yourself soon.
>>107685809unless you already know what you're doing, AI is the opposite of helpful, sending you down rabbit holes and hallucinating fake answers.
>>107685974>in my retirement accountthe vax is going to take you, you'll never see that
>>107687504You faggots told me I'd be dead by the end of winter 2021. I'm still waiting for your bitch ass to get off of the couch and kill me because muh vax isn't going to do it and neither are you fatty.
>>107685648why don't all these unemployed recent graduates get together and start their own company like bill gates did?
>>107687586Bill Gates made a billion dollars writing a BASIC interpreter, the quality of which would get you fired from any modern entry level programming job.
>>107685834>not just getting your bag and dippingwhy should I give two shits about the "tech industry"?
>>107687586Because Billy was from a rich family.
>>107687020Move to a small community with a church that you believe in. Find a local job with your skills just to be part of the community. Join the church. Be supportive, involved. If you need to--get into good shape. A decent young woman without a body count will turn up to raise a good family with you.