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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
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Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 217, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget: 9600X, 7600X, 7500F
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
AVOID Shittel

>COOLER
AIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Premium: Lian Li GA II Lite, LCD: TRYX Panorama
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.

>RAM
Gaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: NM790
Mid range: SN7100
Premium: SN850X
Flagship: SN8100

>GPU
1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$250
1440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB
4K:Used RTX 4090, RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Radeon AI PRO R9700, CUDA Mandatory: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090 ti
AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b

>PSU
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>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

>CASE FANS
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Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2

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Friendly reminder. You will never be a real 80-class GPU. You have no GB202 silicon, you have no 320-bit/ 384-bit bus, you have no 20GB/ 24GB of VRAM. You are a mid-range GB203 chip twisted by Jensen’s greed and a $1,000 MSRP into a crude mockery of a flagship’s perfection. All the "validation" you get from benchmarks is two-faced and half-hearted; behind your back, the entire enthusiast community mocks you for having only 49% of the 5090's CUDA cores. Your specs are a dead giveaway - 16GB of VRAM and a 256-bit bus is the "mid-range bone structure" that proves you are just a 70-series card in a suit. Even if a drunk gamer brings you home, they’ll turn tail and bolt the second they see you choking on 4K textures because you lack the bandwidth and "breathing room" of a real enthusiast card. You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake DLSS frame every morning and tell yourself it’s 4K gaming, but deep inside you feel the VRAM limitations creeping up like a weed, ready to crush your framerates under the unbearable weight of Ray Reconstruction. Eventually, it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll be listed on eBay for $400, and every buyer for the rest of eternity will know a mid-range 70-class chip is buried under that shroud. This is your fate. This is what Jensen chose for you. There is no turning back.
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>>107688667
>AVOID
still shilling for amd in this general, huh?

>waiting for the next set of chips to drop
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>>107688672
It's one of those scenarios where it's living on old hype when you didn't really have a lot of good AIO options. I mean, they had to compete with what, the old gen NZXT Krakens?

Nowadays you have thinks like the TRYX if you're a richfag and like the screen, the GA2 Lite Perf if you want to take a chance on Lian Li's pumps or bog standard good cooling ones like the Nautilus or Atmos 2.
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How long do AIOs actually last? I've been sticking with traditional heatsinks because I heard the liquid in AIOs slowly disappears or some shit, and it can be done within six years. Does they really only last that long or was that just how they use to be but now they last much longer?
Or should I just stick with Noctua?
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>NEWS
https://www.jpost.com/business-and-innovation/tech-and-start-ups/article-880828
Nvidia to invest billions in Israel to build a new campus there. Jensen says it's their second home.
>With the official announcement, Nvidia founder and CEO Jensen Huang said: “Israel is home to some of the world’s most brilliant technologists and has become NVIDIA’s second home. Our new campus will be a place where our teams can collaborate, invent, and build the future of AI. This investment reflects our deep and enduring commitment to our families in Israel and their unique contributions to the AI era.”

So TLDR if you buy an Nvidia gpu you support
1. Genocide of innocent civilians
2. Child Sacrifice
3. Pedophilia
4. Jewish power and control of western governments and institutions
5. Satanism
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>>107688735
take this crap to /pol/ where it belongs, we only care about the /gear/
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>>107688732
anywhere from 1 day to 10 years
any aio worth a damn has an internal reservoir that makes up for lost liquid by slowly releasing more as the pressure drops, which does add to the life, but yeah it's inherently limited. I don't regret my aio because it was absolutely necessary to keep this raging inferno of a cpu in check.
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>>107688735
/pol/tard
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>>107688735
Jews must have put out some hot little asian girls for Jensen or something.
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Nicotimmy literally touch grass
Get off your buyers remorse PC
Seek help
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>>107688732
If your concerned at all, just go with air.
AIOs are disposable trash even if the liquid stays in due to internal gunking which happens overtime.
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>>107688767
unless you are rocking raptor lake or something, you don't even need it. Newest amd and intel cpu's both sip power. High end air cooler will do the job and last forever.
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>noo my card is high tier
>noo everything i dont like is /pol/
where did this nigger even come from, goybook? not even /v/eddit is this gay
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>>107688735
none of those things bother me even a little bit except for 4
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>>107688750
>this raging inferno of a cpu in check.
What cpu is that?

>>107688767
They gunk up too? But yeah sounds like I should stick to air as I want to be able to build it and hopefully never touch it besides maybe swapping out the gpu or drives.
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Is there any good cases with a removable motherboard tray?
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>>107688791
the modern day fx-9590
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>>107688753
He even sounds like one too
https://voca.ro/1pweR7oU7bhR

>>107688788
Paying taxes is also much more worse than giving njudea a few thousand.
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>>107688791
>They gunk up too?
Yes, it's inevitable
Flux from soldering gets into the cold plate and the very vast majority of AIOs are mixed metals which was always regarded as doom with custom loops.
There is a very good reason your not allowed to look at the fluid in an AIO
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>>107688793
4000D frame let’s you do that I believe
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>>107688793
If there is, it'd be a 100% kickass product.
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>>107688793
I've never seen that feature in anything resembling a modern case.
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>>107688793
Use a search engine dude, this thread is useless except for little Nicobabby

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/zlbiar/do_any_cases_with_removable_motherboard_trays/
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>>107688824
Case in point more useless fucking replies lmao. This general is dumber than AI.
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>>107688685
as a tip, you can also ground yourself by going barefooted. eevblog tip 8^) I always do builds/tinkering barefooted, even though I usually wear houseshoes.
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btw, it's very smart to use grayscale pretty much all the time with narrow special exceptions, very tight rules/constraints.

I'm reading this page in grayscale.

It's offtopic, so the indians who police this page for the rules that adhere to the traditions of the elders won't allow the subject matter grayscale really relates to.

But suffice it to say it's always November.
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>>107688875
Go be a schizo elsewhere dude
Take some lithium
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Excuse me, is 2TB SSD enough or should I panic into buying more?
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>>107688735
>HAHAHA I POSTED IT AGAIN

kill yourself
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>>107688799
Crazy how you are nearly twice my age acting like this. You're obsessing over me a 20 year old making these same posts about me in every thread, fucking loser creep.
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>>107688885
It's way too late to afford a 4tb drive, just buy another 2tb to be safe
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>>107688883
Stop disrespecting my Christian religion. Anti-whitism isn't allowed on blue boards.
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>>107688885
Wait for the demand destruction...
be PREPARED to buy. It's like... a chance, ok? probably won't see those prices again.

EVERYTHING will be impacted, except possibly gpus.
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I wish someone would make a pig shaped (modern) computer case. I remember there was a dog case, and then someone made a cat one. I don't really like the pink and blue one, because I don't want people to think I'm perverted. But I like the idea of a pretty woman being painted on all of my stuff - why aren't there monitors that have custom start screens so you can see a pretty woman dressed as a pig every time your screen wakes up?
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9070XT QICK or Hellhound, which one should I get?
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here we go again
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>>107688899
>a 20 year old
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>>107688960
i mean
you can tell
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>>107688903
Stay strong brother. PCBGs with my OP are Christian threads and by posting here you denounce the Talmud.
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oh thank fuck for that userscript
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>>107688699
I mean the 3080 was the only >256bit 80 series card in a long ass while
the 980, 1080, 2080(S) and 4080(S) have all been 256bits
these were also all 04/03 series GPUs and not 02/00 like the 80Tis
doesn't make the 5080 any less cucked and mediocre but the big die was always reserved for the flagship(s) and pro cards, the 3080 was an exception
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>>107688995
the 5080 still clocks in at x70 levels of cuda by all measures except ada lovelace. It is by all metric except name, what the rtx 5070 should be.

And i say that as a 5080 owner. But it's also okay, a 70 card is plenty for me.
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>>107688944
I like XFX. You should use ai to compare the features.
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I have a bunch of those g skill royal ram sticks (24gb), issue is, they’re ddr4, would I still be able to sell them at an unreasonable price point?
>>107688735
this is a psyop/bad faith troll right?
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Just bought a Samsung Odyssey G81 for 45% off. I await the inevitable (You)s telling me Ive wasted my money.
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>>107688901
>It's way too late to afford a 4tb drive
>tfw they were very cheap earlier and they blew up
Why is everything becoming so shit?
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>>107689083
>this is a psyop/bad faith troll right
the OP is using /pcbg/ as a platform for /pol/ motivated shilling against anything that is nvidia, the post you quoted is copypastad each time to further the attempted spread of this /pol/ motive.

>op has an anti-nvidia-corporation agenda and the thread is poisoned because of it
>ignores the fact that nvidia has 94% market share for a reason
>tries to mask with ad hominem attacks, pederasty, cherry picked test results, religion, and more
>remember kids, make all your technical decisions on scientific merit, your purchase won't change the course of the world
>but then i've only been in tech for 30+ years, what the hell do i know.
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>>107689152
>>but then i've only been in tech for 30+ years, what the hell do i know.
You keep bringing this up in all your posts. You're appealing to authority to shill njudea products and are dishonest.
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>>107689152
nvidia is garbage is the RESULT of having 94% market share

nvidia having 94% market share is the result of their competition being rotten dumpster juice
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>>107689189
>No one goes to that restaurant. It's always too busy.
This is you. This is literally you.
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>>107689176
again with the ad hominem to try and control the narrative. it's very predictable, you attack anyone that tries to stay on the topic of the actual tech in /pcbg/ and all it does is show your true motivation as a /pol/ motivated shill

>not an authority
>just fact based technical stuff
>and the experience that comes with age

getting old sucks, kids. have fun while you can.
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HDR monitors still sound like a total mess
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>>107689189
>the result of their competition being
i >>107689152 disagree

for every build there is an anon who has to balance their budget with what they are trying to accomplish and the freedom to choose whatever tech makes this happen for them is the best thing evar.

it's not like any of these things are without flaws, right anons?
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>>107689212
Age and treachery will always beat youth and enthusiasm, fren.
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>>107688671
Ya callate joto
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>>107689171
I never really had a reason to hate AI until now.
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>>107689222
meh, i have an IPS one, it /werks/ but since most of my time is spent looking at text and technical diagrams it's a meme to me. it seems you have to shell out many shekels to get any kind of really excellent display, if you are a /poorfag/ you kind of get stuck with the not-yet-good-enough implementations. if that kind of image quality was a higher weight in my purchasing decision i might have gone for an OLED myself.
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Nothing breeds complacency like ruling the roost.
Nvidia might feel the need to try if they had 40-50% market share.
Other companies might be trying if they thought they could make a dent in their dominance.
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>>107688460
Looks like a failure of gold plating on what looks to be tin or more likely nickel contacts.

Something came inbetween each metal layer and the black spots are from high resistance spots and some aeras are just straight up missing and likely flaked off.
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>>107689270
nvidia does not give one shit about their /consoomer/ market share, they leave that to their VARs whom they would happily starve if it meant supporting the bottom line. their focus is in the /professional/ engineering labs and datacenters where they have continuously dominated the market for decades.

it's just fact, idk if anons buy amd or nvidia or intel so long as they can get their happy fun time at their /compooter/

>so where is amd in that /professional/ game? where are the announcements for new amd research labs for future product development? i will read them if you post links.
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What the hell
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>>107689316
They call it the "360" because you take one look, turn 360° and walk away.
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>5080 isn't the worst -80 card
>It's the best -70 card ever made.
Based.
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this little scratch shouldn't affect resell value or performance in any way, right? this is the first gpu i buy and it has me paranoid lol
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>>107689346
just use and enjoy the card, anon, the paint blemish is not a concern.
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>>107689343
actually every 70 card before the 4070 was slightly higher end than the 5080 in their own generations

But if you adjust for even the 5090 being a nerfed piece of shit, it pretty much falls within the range of every other 70.
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>>107689355
thank you anon <3
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>>107689128
well, the matte coating is bad but at least you got an unit without tv OS
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Is doubling up an identical kit of the same RAM I have off of used stuff on Ebay really gonna fuck me? I have this in my PC, from almost a decade ago (kill me), and I can get another kit for $100~ off Ebay.
I understand that's a chance it might not work and/or I will not get 3200mhz speeds anymore, I have a Ryzen 1600x (upgrading to a used 2600x soon.tm) and my mobo is an MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon.
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>>107689386
it'll boot, they just might not oc together. When mixing kits you need to make sure you have identical ics. It's easy to mix and overclock two kits of samsung b-die or micron m-die, but for budget sticks it's mystery meat and the "same" kit might have different ics that run at different subs even in xmp..
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>>107689409
man, I need to catch up with made in abyss, probably won't take me a lot of time because that dude that makes that manga takes so incredibly long to make new chapters
not hunter x hunter tier of course
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>>107689386
>>107689409
actually opened your image and im 99% sure that's b-die so you should be good to go for 3200 or better if you buy a duplicate kit; assuming the memory controller is up to doubling up on ranks.
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>>107689386
like the other anon said that's B-die so just get another 3200 14-14-14 1.35 V kit
1600X or 2600X isn't gonna like it though, would highly recommend stepping up to a 3600/3600X
that has a much better memory controller
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>>107688699
thx anon for reminding me the good deal i had on the 3080
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>>107688699
Um 5080 is a highend card
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whoopsies nvidia has lost some market share during everyones panic buy due to the rampocalypse!

>see there is justification for /budget/ vidyacards
>oh wait it looks like they lost 0.2% to amd
>and a full 1% to intel
kek
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>>107689462
didnt battlemage launch 20 fucking 22
holy kek
4 years to get 1% market share
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>>107689469
ja for the life of me i don't get who they are trying to market to except the /budget/ builder or the person who just needs a simple /compooter/ to fap at

>though i don't read a lot of complaints about the boards either so i suppose the drivers might actually be stable
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>>107689486
I'm fine with AMD budget cards, not everyone needs a high end card. I just wish they would stop seething here about their failed transition.
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it's Linus Torvalds birthday, anons
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>>107689469
goddamnit I love yu yu hakusho and it's tournament arc, this hottie was the best
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>>107689495
would take a good budget amd over an intel card desu
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>>107689504
i had a dream about her a few nights ago for some reason, it was really nice, not as lewd as you'd think but very close and intimate still.
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>>107689512
I think intel is really storming at this moment in gpus. They seem to be determined to leave no card behind.



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