Linux does not support sound cards even on a basic level, and you expect people to have taken it seriously over the last 30 years for desktop use?
>>107692501my soundblaster worked out of the box
>>107692501nobody cares to support you watching gay trannyt porn with flac quality audio, anon.
>>107692515distro?
>>107692501it jus werks tho?
>>107692501Dude Linux only recently got actual direct rendering that isn't a horrible hack.
>>107692501let me guess, debian or fedora?
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Audio hardware acceleration has been pretty much dead on Windows since Vista too, and putting a plain DAC inside RF interference infested computer case is quite pointless. Class compatible USB audio devices work flawlessly.
>>107692501bro still using 90s tech in his machine
>>107692501>using hobby OS in your main computerall on you to be 2bh
>>107692595Mint, so Debian
>>107692501>creativeSo, are you enjoying your downscaled to 44Khz audio?
>>107692651This has nothing to do with OP. >Class compatible USB audio devices work flawlessly.Same problem still applies as OP is implying.
Both my DACs work fine on Linux and one of them is STAX so it's not something common. I don't see a reason why you'd ever use an internal sound card instead of an external DAC.
>>107692651>since VistaIt died as soon we got dual core CPUs.And arguably even before that as the MMX extension made CPUs better at mixing audio than dedicated hardware.There was the whole thing of 3D positional audio like A3D, but creative bought and killed the technology completely, so that's a no go either.And OP gave this company money for a sound card that probably still downsample everything to 44Khz.
>>107692501all of my audio interfaces and DACs worked out of the box on any distro I've ever used, even stable distros. sounds like a skill issue.
>>107692904>I don't see a reason why you'd ever use an internal sound card instead of an external DAC.Surround sound speakers, pretty easy.
>>107692949At this point you should be using the SPDIF or HDMI for a real surround sound system instead of mock up shit, to decode these fancy dolby digital stuffs as well
>>107692651>>107692908Hardware accelerated audio didn't actually die though, the DirectSound API got changed and that killed off old drivers that used hardware acceleration in Vista and up without modification. Creative actually bought OpenAL and did release several sound cards that still had hardware accelerated audio over OpenAL on Vista and newer. What killed it was software mixing becoming more viable (as one anon mentioned) while being more flexible anyways. Technically you can still do hardware acceleration for audio on Windows 11. AMD even let you use GPU for audio offloading, even on Windows (nothing used that though on PCs, only was used on consoles).
>>107692501usecase for sound cards?
>>107692908>There was the whole thing of 3D positional audio like A3D, but creative bought and killed the technology completely, so that's a no go either.Got added into EAX later (EAX 3.0 or 4.0, can't remember which one), literally Aurea's code, A3D to EAX wrappers worked too and Creative even had them part of their drivers for some cards.
It's an OS meant to run as a headless server, what use does it have for a sound card?
>>107693074There is tons of headless audio equipment running Linux out there.
linux desktop is for people who never produce anything
I don't want to believe you anons are this retarded. This is just a veiled Linux hate thread.Many such cases.
>>107692501Usecase for sound?
>>107692501Sorry to hear your kiddie toy doesn't work. RME does.
>>107692875>Same problem still applies as OP is implying.It doesn't though.Plug a DAC into a Linux computer and it just werks.No need for drivers or any of that nonsense, just send PCM signals to USB and the DAC takes care of the rest.
>>107693193You're still using drivers. OPs is complaining about shit like ALSA, there's no one set way to do audio on Linux. Almost all sound cards have Linux drivers, just like generic USB. Also the benefit with USB is that there's generic USB stack drivers and specific OEM drivers, usually Linux lacks specific OEM drivers and has to use the generic ones, which might lack features otherwise supported by the DAC.
>>107692501having a soundcard next to all your other electronics producing emf is retarded any decent one is external and you communicate with the PC digitally until you get far away from other electronics
>>107693217>features otherwise supported by the DAC.Like what?It's a DAC: digital comes in, analogue comes out.
>>107692989For sound? I don't have onboard audio on my motherboard. But idk what op is talking about. Debian 11 has no issues with cheap chinese usb dongles for audio.
>>107693253>custom buffer or clock source implementation >whoopsie can't change buffer length or clock source
>>107692873Based on what? and no as a preliminary I can't hear it, neither can you. if you would like to defend your consoomer hobby and object to the sentence before I implore you to post your abx testsnot that they matter either because many peer reviewed studies shown that you in fact still can't hear it
>>107693320If your DAC has features like that you should be able to set them on the DAC itself not require a proprietary driver.One of the nice things about an external DAC is that operates independent from the sound source.How would you even connect your locked down OS dependent proprietary DAC to a CD player?
>>107693410They use software control for that with their own drivers. >One of the nice things about an external DAC is that operates independent from the sound source.No, it's a dumb device. >How would you even connect your locked down OS dependent proprietary DAC to a CD player?What has this to do with computer audio DACs?
>>107693498>What has this to do with computer audio DACs?What is a "computer audio DAC"?When people say "DAC" they mean a general purpose DAC.It will have one or more digital inputs and one or more analogue outputs.You can use it with your PC but you cal also use it with your HiFi set or anything that send out digital audio either PCM or DSD.It's a DAC.
>>107692873>>creative>downscaled to 44Khz audioWhy lie?
>>107693556>What is a "computer audio DAC"?>>107693193>Plug a DAC into a Linux computer and it just werks.>No need for drivers or any of that nonsense, just send PCM signals to USB and the DAC takes care of the rest.In this case USB DACs as >>107693193 mentioned. But I guess technically also PCIe and TB DACs. >When people say "DAC" they mean a general purpose DAC.That's not what the post chain was about.,
>>107692515>my soundblaster worked out of the boxDoubtful as it has to be plugged in
>>107693570>not what the post chain was about.>>107692875>Class compatible USB audio devices
>>107692656>90s techThis guy hasn't touched the real audiophile stuff, has he?
>>107692501My sound works fine. Specify which product doesn't work.
the fuck do you meanmy thing worked right out of the fucking box on Linuxi have to install drivers manually on Windowsstupid bait bot
>>107692564mint on that machine
