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GNU/Linux Games:
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Previous thread: >>107677117
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>>107694556
>>107693372
Still need help with this.
Essentially the linux file system is fucked. I can log in, do stuff in the operating system. But if I go into a game, pretty soon 3-10min, the game and pc freezes and I have to use the power button to reset as nothing else works.
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>>107694765
>Essentially the linux file system is fucked
Why are you so sure about this?
>can boot
>can log in
>can do stuff in the operating system
What you describe does not look like a crash caused by file system errors to me. Why did you start your initial question with the hard assumption that it's about the file system? Not trying to judge you here. I just want to know what pointed you into that particular direction.
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Arch, fedora, debian.
Arch, fedora, debian.
Every github project with quick instructions on how to install or build, or dependencies needed, shows these three as primary targets.
I think nobody remembers openSUSE anymore.
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>>107694765
Sounds more like hardware failure than filesystem failure.
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>>107694957
>>107694765
In short: Buy a new drive and backup EVERYTHING now.

Also: If it's an NVMe drive then check if there are any firmware updates for it.
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>>107694933
OpenSUSE is just Fedora but use Zypper instead and sometimes they name packages a bit differently.
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>>107694765
are you out of swap?
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>>107694765
There's no way to "fix" whatever's corrupted, unless you have redundancy or backups.
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>>107695017
That just reminded me of:
https://man.archlinux.org/man/paccheck.1.en

>>107694765
You may want to run that. If there's corrupt system files then you can fix them just by re-installing the package.
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>>107695079
Your problem is the filesystem not the system files. Unix culture doesn't enable pet filesystems. Back it up, fix the root cause, reformat, restore.
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>>107695114
Where do you think the system files are stored, but yes, you're correct, a system file shouldn't just corrupt itself.
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Are fedora spins hard to debloat? Thinking of using fedora sway instead of arch because im too lazy to updoot arch but also want software to not be old and stuck in debian. Is there a way to stop fedoras package manager from pulling unneeded dependencies like with apt --no-install-recommends?
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>>107695158
yes
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is debian still a good distro to start with?
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>>107695342
Start with what? It's not a good entry level distro and it never was.
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I came back from a week long christmas vacation and try to update my arch system. everything was fine before I left, and despite my internet being fine for everything else, downloading anything from the aur goes at speeds of about 20 kbps. I allready optimised my mirrors but it didnt change anything.
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>>107695342
you can start with arch linux and build your own desktop environment :D.
Then when you get upset at pacman, try ubuntu.
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>>107695342
If you want "just werks" and go from there:

Gaming: Bazzite
Everything else: Mint
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I've been running Mint for about a year and I like it, but now I realize I want to dual boot windows rather than just physically switch out the SSD on my laptop every time I want to change OS. Mint has been fine for me but for some reason it hangs up completely every 8-10 hours and it doesn't seem to make my laptop's fan actually work. Is there a reason for me to try something other than Limux Mint? My priorities are mostly compatibility with games/proton and saving as much RAM/storage as possible because I'm autistic
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>>107694933
Arch and Debian. Fedora has no usecase
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>>107695492
Be warned that Windows does not tolerate other OS in its EFI partition. Some update will eventually fuck with grub and it will seem like linux is completly gone. Fixing that would require a live USB and reinstalling grub through console.
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>>107694887
>Why are you so sure about this?
Cause the problem is happening with multiple games. It happens consistently. And there is no way to fix it.
>What you describe does not look like a crash caused by file system errors to me.
then what is it?
> Why did you start your initial question with the hard assumption that it's about the file system? Not trying to judge you here. I just want to know what pointed you into that particular direction.
Happens during save/loading any info from drive to the game. The system is fine as other OSes are working just fine. So that alone means it's either the file system or the nvme ssd.
And while it's possible that the nvme is the one at fault, reformating the drive makes it work fine.
>>107694957
I considered it, and still haven't remove it off the table. But I'm tackling the system file failure first as it's easier and cheaper.
>>107694968
ah yes, buy ssds when their price has increase by more than double.
Also how do I check for firmware updates, other than the website of the manufactur, which I did check and there was no updates, at least manual ones.
It telling me to install SSD tools which doesn't work on linux doesn't help either.

>>107694998
I don't think so? You have to understand these games and system were stable for months with no issue. Now I consistently get complete system freezes. Something changed. like the file system getting corrupted.
>>107695017
I reinstalled the game, but it didn't seem to fix the issue. It's possible it's also save files, or system files that are corrupted.
>>107695079
Elaborate on this, I will try it out later when I have time.
>>107695114
>Your problem is the filesystem not the system files
Yes, that is what I said, didn't I? The system itself seems to be working, but it's like it runs into errors that make it completely shit itself and it feels like a filesystem corruption.
>back up
as much as I could
>fix the root cause
I don't eve know what the cause is, let alone fix it.
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>>107695342
Debian, and Debian alone, is THE universal operating system.
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wait so nvidia is broken as shit on linux? i should go amd?
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>>107695613
If you have the choice, yes.
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when is something going to be done about the arch shitters, trannies and retards shitting up everything linux? these people know nothing, they don't even know their own gender and they cause problems wherever they go.
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>>107695604
Dude your SMART screenshot showed 69 errors. Either you fucked your filesystem by doind those unsafe shutdowns that show there or your drive is toast. Install fresh, if it errors again you know the drive is fucked.
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>>107695645
If your drive is losing data on unsafe shutdowns it's still a piece of shit. There shouldn't be any media errors.
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>>107695613
If you want to tinkertroon with AI stuff you still need nVidia, but their Linux video drivers are slower than Windows and have a lot of problems.
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>>107695703
Slow is understatement by the way. Recent benchmarks have demonstrated the 9070 XT occasionally being much faster than the 5090 which should just never be the case. There's some serious bugs and issues in their drivers somewhere.
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>>107695703
If you just want to play around a bit for private use you can do everything with vulkan now. Ollama, llmstudio and all the llama.cpp & other *.cpp variants support it now.
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>>107694733
Does someone else have issues with this Wi-Fi card? I have a "TP-Link Archer TX20E AX1800 Wi-Fi 6 Wi-Fi Card". It sometimes loses connection. I have to disconnect and connect my pc from the Wi-Fi and it works again. Happens roughly ever 3-4 hours. On Windows, I never had this issue.

Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8852BE PCIe 802.11ax Wireless Network Controller
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>>107695851
>Realtek
More like real piece of shit.
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>>107695851
Turn off Wifi powersave.
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>>107695703
if you really need nvidia for ai is questionable. Yes, it's still totally geared towards that and most guides assume you have it, but fuck, they also assume you use windows.
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>>107695743
does that work for image generation?
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>>107695977
Yes
https://github.com/leejet/stable-diffusion.cpp
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>>107695703
For AI, nvidia+linux is actually the best and most supported combination, even the most obscure shit you pull off github will work unless it demands too much vram.

It's vaguely like this for AI
>nvidia+linux 10/10
>nvidia+win 8/10 the big stuff works but a little slower, some stuff won't work
>amd+linux 4/10 rocm and hip sucks
>amd+win 0/0 rocm doesn't even exist lmao

For gaming it's flipped, AMD > Nvidia on Linux but Nvidia > AMD on Windows. The differences are a lot smaller than with AI though. If you have the wrong config a lot of AI stuff will just not work at all or run like absolute shit.
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>>107695958
thanks, i will try this.
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>>107696009
no support for illustrious/noob?
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>>107695434
trying linux, my windows install is 2 months old and the wifi is already shitting itself
>>107695447
so ubuntu?
>>107695453
alright, thanks! i'll try mint since ubuntu kind of looks like a toy
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I'm considering migrating from W11 to Fedora 43. Is KDE as crash prone as /g/ likes to pretend it is or is it mostly exaggerated?
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>>107696221
It's just a meme. It's one of the most stable desktop environments you'll ever use in practice. It even does things no other (Wayland) desktop does like resetting properly should a crash occur outside of its control (like GPU drivers, GNOME will shit itself if that happens).
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>>107696144
Illustrious is its own inference framework and it does not have vulkan support.

Noobai has gguf models. Those should run with stable-diffusion.cpp. If not the is also koboldcpp thats runs those and supports vulkan.
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I tried multiple distros and I found that I cannot use usbcore quirks in either fedora or opensuse at boot.
It works fine as a boot parameter on Arch. I can get these to work manually while running the system in fedora/opensuse but I'm absolutely fucked otherwise.
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I've tried a whole bunch of distros... all are shit for some reason.

Then I tried Debian... and it just works/looks decent out the box

Given most distros are just Debian underneath - is there a reason to not just use Debian and get on with it?
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>>107696459
My biggest problem was creating packages for it myself was too much work compared to Arch. That and the fact that sometimes they refuse to update SID for some reason.
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>>107696020
NTA but was eventually gonna ask about nvidia and linux for AI, being a fence sitter like everyone else here to migrate over, don't play very demanding vidya anyway, buuuut unsure about swap size, as my 4060 and 16Gb of RAM (that now cost $200 holy fuck) has clankers telling me to use 32Gb of swap, because of stable diffusion and I am using comfyui pretty much every day



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