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>>107703794thats actually a dumb move.ngreedia has gotten hard value out of the shatbot craze. the datacenters all run their cardsand palantir provide surveliance/governance tech and that make every single zogged government extra-hardtheyre 2 of the winners of the shatbot-craze
>>107703848nvidia is investing in all those ai companies buying their cards, if they fall, nvidia is fucked too
>>107703794btw palantir is a winner of the shatbot bonanza because they rely on compute to cross reference profile data with outcomesand theyre gonna get compute for extra cheap once the fad passes, because the datacenters supporting ai-lmaoo are gonna be in dire need for clientstons of offer with no demand = very cheap shit
>>107703794>"isn't too early"Implies that there will actually be a crash, which is not a guarantee at all.
Didn't this guy make a big deal about not investing anymore because he kept being wrong
>>107703864nah, they have hard valuethey make gpus, after all, not vague promisestheir stock may get justed, but its not gonna fall down to 0its hard to tell what will be the timelinesand its not certain to begin with, everything depends on how the hodl plebs will reactits risky and theres not much to gain.i think its dumb
>>107703794>Michael you get:>A) live a normal fulfilling life as a multimillionaire >B) be a billionaire but only be right ONCE in your entire life about anythingGuess he still made the right choice
>>107703909>they make gpus, after all, not vague promisesand after the crash a huge load of them that were bought for data centers that never materialized will be dumped on the market for cheap
>>107703888his opinion is influential and he is probably trying to expedite it.
>>107703924thats where palantir may intervenebut i sure hope im wrong on this one, and were gonna see a used enterprise-card bonanza
>>107703794why is he shorting a company tied to the gobbirment
>>107703848Yes Nvidia is the biggest winner. But also their stock will fall the farthest. That's why it's a bubble.
>>107703794There won't be a crash, what's gassing the price of DRAM and other components is literally just lack of supply constrained because manufacturers want to PREVENT a crash in the price of DRAM, there is already 1 HMB fab coming online. The simple fact is that DRAM and all other components are still worth less than the value AI provides, and much AI value is still locked away. 1 example, with enough compute and memory you could compress down all files on your system 10-100x and generate or decompress the needed ones on the fly. Not just files, identified blocks of memory can be replaced with the code that generated it, a super garbage collection ability. GPUs where already shooting up in price before AI literally because of Leisure (video games) and mining. These datacenters could mine or become render farms, HPC centers, they don't have to do AI rendering.Of course Google is already using AI as part of their DeepResearch program, the value of which already dwarfs the value of computer parts.
>>107705378>miningBtc needs asics and eth moved to pos years ago. This makes me suspicious of the other things you're saying, but I don't care enough to research.
>>107705378The problem was never components (that's just the consumer-gamer's problem) its the datacenter expansion that's the "bubble". Increasingly more datacenters are being built, needing more power/networking infra and causing component shortfalls in a build-out cycle that should have been over a year ago. The problem is all that capital is being financed with debt/circular buyouts instead of hard assets (which tech has been hording for the past 10 years). The debt, like in 2008, might cause a domino affect for anything (land, operator, software, hardware etc) data-center related. AI has been, and still is, an unproven productiviy enhancement; it promises to automate almost everything but the hard automation (self driving cars, robotics) has yet to go mainstream and the easy automation (ai blogs, sass, image gen, slop etc) has shown little benefit, its just automating bullshit jobs that shouldn't be there in the first place..
>>107705482My point is that there is no line where there are "too many" datacenters. They literally turn sunlight or sludge or gas into intelligence or at worst rendering. It can't be "overvalued" because the inputs are all worthless and the outputs is literally capital.But to fit my argument into something you're economic theory can understand. Even with this massive rollout datacenters are still massively under produced due to supply and labor constraints.