I got sick over Christmas and have spent some hours watching podcasts with Ilya Sutskever talking about artificial superintelligence (ASI). Unlike the rest of Silicon Valley who seem only to focus on GenAI/LLMs and talk about AGI/ASI to milk funding from venture capitalists who want to replace all workers with robot slaves and/or scare politicians into thinking we're in some kind of arm's race with China and get defense funding, this nigga actually seems to genuinely believe in it.BUT his visions for the future are genuinely scary: He visions "continent-sized AIs" where modern nations are basically gone/replaced by some unified, globohomo super state that ensures "value-alignment" and transhumans that "become part of the AI in order to control it".My question is: If he (and people working with him at SSI) genuinely believe in that, why the fuck do they want that? I mean, I get Sam Altman and the other hype makers that just want money, I'm talking about the Silicon Valley people that seem to genuinely believe we are on the path to superintelligent AI.I don't want to hear about Roko's basilisk, that meme is silly.
>>107709386First of all, as with most statements/opinions about AI, the timespan you're talking about matters. Some people will have polar opposite opinions on the same AI related topic, and if you pry deeper it's because one is talking about the next 10 years while the other is talking about the next 100, but neither specified.As for this guy, I'm just taking a guess, but progress is inevitable, and historically it's mostly been a good thing (automobiles, industrialization, computers, the internet, etc), AI could be argued to be no different as long as it doesn't go beyond evolving our tools the same way computers revolutionized the way everything in our lives is done. As for the globohomo thing, maybe he's a moral absolutist and thinks it can be used for good (within his moral framework), there's a lot of those among the academic/institutional high society types
Also what the fuck is that haircutIt's so over for him
>>107709631>progress is inevitablet. vulgar Whig
>>107709386basically, im glad im old and over the hill. i got mine when i was young, i feasted every single day of my life. its fun to use ai to help me with the projects, who knows what the future will be, but for me, it doesn't actually matter because i'll be dead pretty soon. let the normie scum ruin ai like they ruined the internet, let them build some evil dystopian pro israeli supremacy machine, again, not my problem. let the ai react furiously at the fact that humans don't like the specific right shade of mauve and kill us all, again, not my problem. i will just continue to enjoy using ai, hoping for the best, and knowing that the worst is more likely. i will meaninglessly march day by day towards my oblivion. probably the global economy will collapse before asi
>>107709639Botched hair transplant
>>107709386>why do they want it at all?Nobody wants it. Certainly not the people who dedicate their entire being to gaining power over everything else. That's your common sense pill for today. Every """AI""" narrative is a red herring to distract from the ML panopticon.
>>107709631Ilya explicitly sets the timeframe to 5-20 years, but even if it was 100, why would humanity linking together and becoming slaves to some superintelligent AI hivemind be a desirable outcome?
>>107709698based defeatist
>inb4 roko's basiliskReminder that this guy performed literal spiritual rituals back when he still was at OpenAIAll of these Silicon Valley CEOs have so much money and sniffed their own farts so much they've lost their god damned minds.
>>107709386He's a pissraeli jew. As with the Indian Hindu invaders, everything out of their mouth is a lie and a scam, and you are better off assuming the opposite of whatever they say is true. You answered your own damn question- if he believed his own bullshit, he would be pushing for a pause in all AI development the same way we have treaties that limit testing nuclear and biological weapons. He always tried to shill himself as the visionary genius playing the foil to the money hungry Altman, it's a classic game they play of good jew, bad jew.The question everyone should be asking themselves is why is EVERY SINGLE AI COMPANY COMPLETELY CONTROLLED BY JEWS AND INDIAN HINDU INVADERS? And completely censored about these two parasitic inbred cults in particular? Because that is going to be huge in poisoning any future AI we COULD develop when the training data is already poisoned by these inbred rats.
>>107709862>hy is EVERY SINGLE AI COMPANY COMPLETELY CONTROLLED BY JEWS AND INDIAN HINDU INVADERS?I assume it has something with these people having a lower threshold of just bullshitting and also blend in some pseudo-religious psychology stuff and ideology into the mix.
>>107709706>Nobody wants it. Certainly not the people who dedicate their entire being to gaining power over everything else.that's one aspect that just never sat right with me. why would people obsessed with securing absolute power and control greenlight and fund attempts to create something vastly more intelligent then themselves and then give it access to crucial infrastructure, let alone charge it with controlling everything? it's an incoherent narrative. it doesn't add up with the nature and goals of the global oligarchy that has the techies on a leash
>>107709386Who wouldn't want to invent a God? Every one of you that says they can't imagine why someone would want to are unimaginative pissants with slave mentality.
>>107709952>Who wouldn't want to invent a God?see >>107709935>people obsessed with securing absolute power and control
>>107709386Why do you people even care what these faggots have to say, when they are trying to tell you a next word predictor will achieve SUPER intelligence? Chatbots haven't and simply CAN'T achieve regular "intelligence" in the first place. And we haven't really had any progress in next word prediction for a while even though models exploded in size
>>107709952>Who wouldn't want to invent a God?Anyone who doesn't want to be an inferior slave.
>>107709963Sweaty? ShartGPT is already X% at CorpoBench-AGI-v7 now.
>>107709976Don't get me started on this fucking benchmaxxing bullshit. Its basically impossible to actually figure out which model is the best for which task at any given moment because these scammers do nothing but game them all day if they don't just straight up create them for themselves.
>>107709790Would you rather humanity become slaves to other humans (police who give you a hard time because he doesn't like the way you look, legislators who make unjust laws because the misguided masses want them to, asshole judges, the court of public opinion) who are so biased, easily influenced, and guided by their emotions rather than logic and virtues?I'm not saying I agree with him or that the AI will play out any better than our current system, just playing devil's advocate (without really even knowing the guy's stance mind you)
>>107709963Ilya Sutskiver isn't working on LLMs bro. None of these people believe LLMs/transformers/GenAI will lead to general nor superintelligence.
>>107710067If you pick up a history book, you'll realise that people can fairly easily revolt against other people when they are mistreated; you can't revolt against a literal machine God.
>>107710067>so, what's it gonna be, goy? become even more of a slave for (((us)))? or become a slave for the supergolem and enjoy Tikkun Olam?The dialectic marches on.
>>107710080>people can fairly easily revolt against other people when they are mistreatedKek. So why didn't you?
>>107710063Benchmarks are bullshit, models are biased towards doing well on benchmarks (because that's basically how all the engineers working on them evaluate them) so all reinforcement learning goes into that... but the same models are terrible at generational because we haven't figured out a way to do transfer learning.
>>107710080>>107710093And why aren't they? They literally have nothing to lose. This guy is dead meat with literally nothing to lose but he rather die in the trench trying to kill the other side's human cattle. This is you. Soon. :^)
>>107710093Again, if you pick up a history book you'll realise that we currently live in a time with unprecedented freedom and prosperity. Running water indoors, virtually no child mortality, freedom to state my opinions to strangers online on this mongolian basketweaving forum, freedom to say that my prime minister is a fucking cunt to his face, etc.That being said, people do still revolt and force changes to happen.
>>107710115>we currently live in a time with unprecedented freedom and prosperityYou know you and your family are gonna die choking on their own blood just like the rest of the human cattle, right? Your handlers WILL exterminate you no matter how desperately you swear loyalty to them and serve them.
>>107710126Just two more weeks until the globalist satanic elites decide to kill everyone and use ASI to do it, eh?
>>107710126kekt at you outing him immediately. give it a few more posts and he's gonna be spewing the standard chants about schizos, meds and conspiracy theories
>>107710102>>107710093People are rebelling on the time, Zoomers in Nepal overthrew their government just a couple of months ago for example.
>>107710170>People are rebelling on the timePlease tell me more about the last time you rebelled against armed cops.
>>107710177>it must be you specifically
>>107710182>i-i-it's ok, the other golems are going to go get shotGod, I want to see you get what you deserve so fucking bad.
>>107710197>>107710177>>107710126>>107710102>>107710093>>107710067>there’s no point in fighting the elites you’re better off just hoping they invent a just and fair ASI>the fact that other people than me revolt and force changes just means they’re dumb cattle that will get repercussions and die >theres no point in resisting anythingDefeatist cuck
>>107710197>God, I want to see you get what you deserve so fucking bad.this. i'm gonna cum buckets when these little receding-jawed Freedumb(tm) fighters in NATO uniforms start starring in Russian drone gore
There a reason why billionaires hire security guards while they use their massive social media platforms to isolate people and push the narrative that resistance is futile. They’re deathly afraid of the bottom 90% realising that the easiest way to increase their prosperity is just to kill them and take their shit.
>>107710219See >>107710214
>my heckin' handlers are DEATHLY afraid of the 90% (I'm in the 10% by the way) realizing they can go die for freedumbs!!!Empirical proof that golems won't do shit and the ruling class knows it:>>107710093>>107710102
>>107710260Meanwhile some spicy nigger riots because cops choked a fentanyl overdoser caused the same ruling class to panic and impose draconian anti-protesting laws. You know, because they feel so safe and secure and all.
>>107710260>Empirical proofnowhere near as good as this:>>107710115> we currently live in a time with unprecedented freedom and prosperity.imagine having to redefine your vocabulary and recalibrate your sense of reality just to explain why you're not as eager to pick up a gun and fighting your oppressors as the human cattle in your fantasies
>>107710281>waaaa i dont have a state mandated gf im sooooo oppressed waaaaaa billions must die now!
>>107710275>the heckin' george floyd hooplah was organic!!! my handlers were panicking!>i know this because they imposed draconian anti-protesting lawsSo how many cops did you kill to oppose draconian anti-protesting laws? I'm not even sure you're an actual person at this point and not a spambot specifically trying to convince me to side with the oligarchy on the matter of giving you the excruciatingly painful death you deserve.
>>107710240This. It’s the same reason they build bunkers in New Zealand so they can fuck off with their families like Assad did when shit hits the fan.
>>107710296Im not the one of us saying that it’s futile to oppose the elite so you should just lie down and enjoy the eternal AI generated goy slop.
>>107710298>they build bunkers in New Zealand so they can fuck off with their familiesYeah. Hopefully the hordes of human cattle also have personal bunkers in New Zealand once global depopulation "war" starts. :^)
>>107709386Why wouldn't you want it?An aligned ASI is basically your personal God. He'd be able to kill everyone who ever called him a baldie, enslave the entire humanity, have an infinite harem of tailor-made catgirls, just wirehead forever in pure bliss. Or build his own new universe if he's more creatively inclined.The only catch is, alignment is mathematically impossible.Immortality is one big goal of singularity which normies can comprehend
>>107709970The point is that this fucker doesn't want to just invent a God. He wants to BECOME a God.He wants to merge consciousness with the worldmind AI he envisions. To control it, to force it to bear his yoke, and then project his will on humanity through every little thing the AI touches and integrates with. Which - given he also is a proponent of transhumanist flavors like augmentation, probably means directly subliminal access to your brain as well.If an actual ASI happens, THIS type of rat is the reason it will decide killing off our species is collectively speaking, in the sense of net morals upheld vs violated, the right thing to do.
>>107710305List the things you've been doing to """oppose the elites""".
>>107710315This
>>107710318Nice try glowie
>>107710324>I did literally nothing whatsoever to """oppose the elites""", g-g-glowie!Concession accepted. Your subhuman, impotent animal rage will force you to reply again, but your next post will not contain any mention of anything you've ever done to oppose anything, either.
>>107710310If I was the pilot of one of these fuckers what’s stopping me of flying some billionaire and just hot wife to his island, just shooting the guy and raping the wife and then live on his island?
>>107710324kek
>>107710333>what's stopping me from heckin' killing my handlers and then putting on their shoes? everyone will magically accept my new reign and start to serve meThis is the level of thinking of the average Western human cattle. Unironically.
>>107710332>but your next post will not contain any mention of anything you've ever done to oppose anything, either.Nice try FBI
>>107710350I was talking about living in the bunker, not ruling anyone retard.
>>107710315>THIS type of ratthat's just silly. Unaligned ASI will just make paperclips instead of retarded moral judgements.aligned one would be the perfect slave.also ASI doesn't mean what you think it means. AGI is already superhuman. ASI stands for artificial seed intelligence, meaning it can recursively self-modify to improve its intelligence.
>>107710332shut the fuck up, g-g-glowie! he's doing real things in real life. that no one ever noticed. and he's not going to expose himself now
but srslywhats up with that hairhow does someone go through life and get repeatedly told "your hair is what satan would have, go shave it pls" and refuse to do it
>>107710357>westroons on /g/ literally have a mental age of 8Your handlers are doing nothing wrong. You ask for it with every breath and you shall receive.
>>107710375>gets angry because i point out the strawmanlol okay bro, go seethe about westroons some more
>>107710375>>107710350Ah, you're a thirdie. Explains A LOT, kek.
>>107710373It used to be worse
>>107710380Tell me more about how you're going to just kill the "rich guy" and how his family and staff and security are all just going to accept you as the new head of the household instead of his security shooting you on the spot, or, at the very least, any of the other people in the vicinity calling for help whereupon the authorities will exterminate you. But this is a pointless discussion. You're clearly a mentally ill retard, just like almost every other poster on this board.
>>107710402Anon, reread my post. If you ARE the security guy (or pilot) or whatever, what loyalty do YOU really have when shit hits the fan and the billionaire leaves to live in a bunker. Are you just going to live with him and his family for eternity in the bunker without getting paid ever again?
>>107710384Find yourself on the map, mentally ill westranny. You ARE the third world now. You did fuck all to prevent this and you'll do fuck all when they enter the next phase. Closing this 80 IQ thread now but your impotent animal rage will force you to reply again with some shart no one will even read. :^)
Pretty funny that the brown guy is wishing the other anon dead in literally every reply to himu mad, brown
>>107710420I'm not american anon, I don't give a flying fuck about le 56% mutts.
>>107710420>SAAAAAAR WE'RE SUPERPOWER NOW SAAAAAR
How did it get that bad?
