2 days left to get to Mars.
>>107711444you cant go through the firmament, silly
>>107711444Musk seems to have dropped the idea already.the new bullshit target is the moon. but there is no money to be made there, so just forget everything.
>>107711444he wasn't counting for the election of joseph biden which put tech many years backwards.
>>107711771Wow, that Biden guy seems to be superpowered. Tell me more.
>>107711771trump is literally deleting nasa you fucking retard
>>107712096nasa doesn't do anything, its all spaceX now
>>107712096Oh my science! Really? That's horrible!
>>107711578>the new bullshit target is the moon.Nah that got scrapped in favour of orbital datacentres. Still looking forward to the design of the heat spreader lmao
>>107712096Good.
>>107711782You know all those starships explosions were sabotaged by Biden right?
>>107712140That's NASA not the NSA you fucking retard.
>>107711578>the new bullshit target is the moonBy your metric.And by 'new' you'd mean the plans for Artemis that were formalised in 2017?> but there is no money to be made there,More than someone like you is capable of imagining...But you shouldn't be doing it for money. You should be doing it for the learning. Space is hard. It's most unwise to set off on a three year trip off the bat. Really, you want somewhere that would sorta qualify as deep space but somewhere still close enough to get to 'safety' should shit go really pete tong.>so just forget everything.What you know really shouldn't take long to forget.>>107712119>That's horrible!Yeah. It is.On one hand you have a firm that went out of it's way to build hardware rated for space, and the other you have one that just used three off the shelf units to save a buck and then to save even more money why even bother with controls - we can fly starship with a web browser...What can possibly go wrong...
Spaceship development is so far behind that Boeing and shit look good again
>>107712170I'm not reading all of that, but heck yah xister!
>>107711444>byESL-kun, the deadline passed over 363 days ago.
>>107712170plebbitnow
>>107711459Didn't they nuke the firmament and didn't even break it at all
>>107711444Should have just said 20XX
>>107712138>in favour of orbital datacentresThese are not mutually exclusive. >Still looking forward to the design of the heat spreader lmaoIf you throw these things at langrange points y'can get 99.9% uptime on the PV panels, which for such draw will require to be reasonably extensive. It might actually make more sense to have collector arrays and beam the power over with maser but I digress... Such large collector arrays will generate quite a bit of shadow... As you're only really lossing via IR then being kept in shadow your radiators can run pretty near peak...
>>107712096Good riddance. Nasa has been nothing but expensive bloat filled with useless affirmative action hires for nearly two decades.
>>107711444Mars is too small and lacks a magnetosphere. Floating habitats on Venus is a much better idea. It has 93% of Earth's gravity, 50-55km up in the atmosphere the pressure is 30-75C and the pressure is 1 bar.The whole thing is moot anyway because you can build artificial habitats anywhere, with spinning sections to simulate gravity. It's a purely financial problem of getting the material into orbit, not a physics or engineering one. Still less than we used to bail out the banks in 2008. You don't need an entire planet's surface area to sustain habitation for millions or even billions of people. I also think there's a deliberate effort to associate "being in space" with experiencing microgravity, which is not a natural or necessary condition at all, to make the whole thing seem impossible so we live in pods and eat bugs forever
>>107711444Isn't it standard practice for American CEOs to outright lie and exaggerate to the public and investors?
>>107712251The first thing that'll happen in space exploration is mining the asteroid belt.
>>107712251>It's a purely financial problem of getting the material into orbit, not a physics or engineering one.This honestly goes for building a permanent outpost (almost) anywhere within our solar system. Not a technical problem, purely a problem of having someone willing to hand over the ludicrous amounts of money required to launch enough payloads to either assemble something in orbit or land it on a planet for later assembly.
>>107712170>blah blah I love Elon Musk!I can't hear your shit from all your Elon dick sucking and deep throating. maybe you should try getting a brain and realizing you were scammed by the neo-monorail conman.or just kys
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>>107712189>I'm not reading all of that,We know. Reading causes you to think. Thinking hurts the thinkbox.Words Bad.>>107712190>the deadline passed over 363 days ago.Realistically... Y'can get to Mars in about two, three weeks...But you want to take three years. You use a shit tonne less fuel in scrubbing off speed so you don't overshoot, and even more not putting that speed in to begin with - and the important bit: Should you 'miss' then as you fall back to Sol you stand a pretty decent chance of being caught by the Earth on it's way passed. Especially if you haven't wasted all your fuel already.>>107712197How about you toddle off into the corridor, pull your foreskin over your head and fuck some sense into yourself...
>>107712251>Floating habitats on Venus is a much better idea'better' by what metric?You're building to deal with those conditions, might as well just cope with deep space, and simulate gravity with centrafugal forces...>it's a purely financial problem of getting the material into orbitThen good news. There's more material up there than is on this planet. And even better, you don't need to fight gravity of this planet to get it up there.There's an asteroid belt just t'other side of mars. Instead of flinging a car at mars, that payload could have been a little seed factory and a few tugs. Tugs can pick up a lil rock and bring it back. Once contained it can get itself refined and sorted... Clone itself and repeat. A centrifugal launcher could move containers of resources about very efficiently. Would take a while to arrive, but the flow rate will compensate. Should be able to get a similar system setup in the Oort cloud before that pile of rocks expires...But no. We'll throw a car...>to make the whole thing seem impossible so we live in pods and eat bugs foreverLogistically, it just doesn't make sense.There is limited space 'down here'. Even going the pod route, you'll run out. Even using sublevels -10 down to -30 to grow the bugs and sublevels -30 down to -50 to grow the mould to feed the bugs... you're going to run out of space to *support* the pods...Two viable solutions are decouple resource draw from the limited pool down here, or mass culling. Expanding through space gives exponentially more space so sorta becomes a self-solving problem until it's galactic scale clusterfuck. I'd like to think it moves that way.
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>>107711444did not she claim 2018 at some points
>>107712119use case for defunding nasa?
>>107712375use case for poo creatures?
>>107712327>I can't hear your shit from all your Elon dick sucking and deep throating.No.That is what you wanted to read into it, so that it may fit in with your preconcieved narative.This is what happens when you repeatedly and consistently fail to absorb the information presented, and instead choose to make yourself look like a fuckwomble.> maybe you should try getting a brain and realizing you were scammed by the neo-monorail conmanMaybe you should remove all of your skin very slowly with a potato peeler and roll around in a large pile of salt.Mayhaps the experience will encourage learning.>or just kysNot me. It's you that's the problem. But don't worry. I won't allow it to be fast.
>>107712375usecase for going to space?
>>107712360Can you point on the doll where the cold war hurt you?
>>107712405>usecase for going to space?Read a document: UN RoadMap to Food Security through to 2050Earlier revisions have more telling language... but all have the same TL;DR: Space for habitation is encroaching space to support said habitationPeople gonna keep on increasing in number. Expecting otherwise would be a little dolly dimple, so that leads to two inevitable possibilities. You can either move to where it's not so constrained or one half is going to have to be minced up to feed the other half, and that will need to cycle a few times too...
>>107712405ICBMs as part of a national nuclear strategy.
>>107712383What makes you think funding poo's is a metric?
>>107712456Very solved problem...
>>107711578>the new bullshit target is the moon. but there is no money to be made thereNever heard of helium-3?
>>107712240Well, we only got to the moon in the first place because of stronk blakk womyn who don't need no man.
>>107712478>Never heard of helium-3?NTA ... But I have.There's 'better' sources of that than the moon.Additionally, you really don't want to significantly adjust the mass of my moon. In either direction. You're not putting a few hundred thousand tonnes on it, or taking it off it, without consequence.'Space Mining' can make sense. But not on the thing powering the tides. You leave that the fuck alone.Besides. Wouldn't that be a violation of the outer space treaty?
>>107712554>Wouldn't that be a violation of the outer space treaty?Just gotta spread some money around. Everyone will fall in line.
>Meanwhile, at Mars
>>107712198nooks arent real either
>>107712554>Besides. Wouldn't that be a violation of the outer space treaty?As the other anon said, if the money isn't restricted to just one country/region and we manage to spread mining rights in a way that leaves China/Russia/US happy that treaty won't be an issue for long, it'd just get scrapped or amended if they even bother.
>>107712405Natural resources
>>107712572>Just gotta spread some money around.I'm sure that'll matter when the lack of mass de-orbits the moon. If you're lucky enough to time the extraction to it's periapsis then you might de-orbit outwards. But the loss of tidal currents will be devestating to ecosystems that have literally hundreds of thousands of years adapting to it's presence. As the ecosystem that feeds all the other ecosystems undergoes complete collapse, I'm sure that extra buck will feel good...Fuck it. Why don't we start fighting over the rediculously abundant resources whilst we're at it. Devolve into a game of who can kill the opponents radiators first and make sure no-one get to access space through the debris field and the constant orbital bombardments take out what little life remains...
>>107711578Mars? What do you need to go to the Moon for? I can get you to low Earth orbit. Here's a rocket that'll explode in stratosphere.
>>107712240>useless affirmative action hiresTrump admin in a nutshell.
Any science related to Space was carried by the Nazis.
elon likes big rockets
>>107712450>People gonna keep on increasing in number.lol no they won't. not for long anyway. humans will soon be useless so oopsies will start habbening
>>107712803you dont know what science means
>>107711578Musk was like >Private space industry is the future!But nowadays he's sucking big gov cock around the clock. It's most of SpaceX' revenue by a long margin.
>>107712852Ever see 'Idiocracy'?Not a big fan o adam sandler mesself... But consider that a documentary...
>>107712240Drowning in the Kool-Aid
>>107712911dumb subhuman
>>107712933Very true, >>107712327 can't stop drinking it
>>107712360Real life proves that regardless of the system a minority owns majority of wealth and the rest is poor
>>107712928What does adam sandler have to do with anything?
>>107713010Aye, aniki.
>>107712171Almost as if blowing things up is not a judicious development path.>b-but muh falconA meager improvement based on a solid design created decades ago.
>>107711444Hey remember when there were supposed to be 25 Starshit test flights this year?
>>107713165Lol and flight 12 has just been delayed until April
>>107711578I think the latest is AI data centers in LEO.Personally I sold almost all my ETF's that have any "Mag. 7" in it.
>>107712119/pol/tard while browsing the /g/>Biden and the libs destroyed le tech innovation(actually means science) somehow. This is why we aren't on Mars, vote Trump!>NASA? ahahah le basedence! Who cares about le space u dumb libs!
>>107711578No he hasn't. He just says 2030 something now.
>>107711444he still has 1 day left. it may happen.
>>107711771i hate Americans they are trolling with their posts but in a way that you have to respond but it also needs like 2000 words explanation why Americans are retarded.
>>107711444Oh no elonbros, 24h left!
>>107713885don't worry, if we have peace on Ukraine after realization 24 hours peace plan of president Trump then Elon Musk also will fullfill his promise
>>107713885They always say it's impossible then Elon proves them wrong
>>107713500We would need to use hyperspace.
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>>107711578NASA paid him to go to the moon. He has to at least try to do that. He wanted to go to Mars to rule over people, some emperor complex.
>>107712754truly I cannot believe he is not jewish. or is he?
So why is starship trash? It's the reason for all the delays in his idiotic schemes. It's clearly under performing. Are the engines way to weak because he simplified the designs? Good parts are no parts, despite the fact there put there for a reason? Or can't they ramp them up to full power because they'd blow the launch pad apart again due to no flame trench? New pad designs have a flame trench. Murray be annoying trucking in the water for every launch. The way Starship is now, doesn't seem like it can take a payload to orbit. Falcon heavy at least sent a car, but didn't have to lift a starship with it.
>>107714746>Elon Musk has described himself as "aspirationally Jewish," indicating a strong affinity for Jewish culture and friends, despite not being Jewish by heritage. He made these comments during discussions about antisemitism and his experiences with Jewish communities. Wikipedia NBC News
>>107713885@grok verified, since he probably meant Mars years he still has plenty of time actually.
>>107711444he already sent people in secret. goling to be a big reveal coming in 2 weeks.
>>107712383someone has to eat all poo
>>107711444moon landing never happened, this will be a movie set or more likely CGI, space is fake, gay racist and trans.
>>107713482>/pol/tardI was here before that board existed. YES, it is GOOD that NASA is getting defunded, why the fuck should I care about a group of jeets? Oh, and btw most people voted for him. Cope.
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>>107712754kek
