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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D
-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D

*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5
*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand
*Prices have increased for LGA 1700 processors, only worth considering if discounted or if reusing DDR4. New DDR5 builds should be AM5 or LGA1851

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
*Most listings online are not actually 7950

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native/High-end: 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
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>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
RTX 50 Super, 2026 launch? Potentially cancelled, likely q3 if still being released
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"
Micron consumer memory and storage (Crucial) is no more
Nvidia reducing production of 50 series gpus next year (https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu-displays/nvidia-plans-heavy-cuts-to-gpu-supply-in-early-2026/)

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/


Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.

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I can't give up on my PC. I love it so much. It's my most prized possession and the most important thing I have. I slaved to earn the money for the parts. I built it with my own two hands. I refuse to give up on it or think I'll never get to upgrade it again. I WILL SAVE YOU. THIS WILL NOT BE THEN END. I'M COMING BACK FOR YOU

WAIT FOR MEEEEEEEEE
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>>107716708
What are you fretting over? The people who rightfully should be worried are the waitfags.
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I built my PC, and I think it came out kinda ugly.
I know spending money on cosmetics is kinda dumb, but... Gotta be something I can do to make this look a bit less ugly.
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>>107716750
Also, ignore the dust, I took this image before I dusted it. :)
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>>107716750
add the last bottom fan and a 3rd fan on the cpu cooler, cmon, fanmax it
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Anonymous niggas out here will tell you to buy [insert IHV here]
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>>107716708
this must be the most epic shitpost in /pcbg/ history.

bravo, anon
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one day an OP will feature a pic of my current oldskool or future build
one day
>>107716750
true men buy pc cases that have no windows (unless you're paranoid about your custom loop WC then yeah i would need visuals to keep me from freaking out)
air coolers are meant to be set and forget
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As annoying as the AMD shill OP is, this Nvidia shill OP is equally stupid, albeit more subtle.
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>>107716819
NVIDIA user are clearly smarter.
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>>107716819
See :
>>107716675
>Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op
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>>107716819
anyone who posts in /pcbg/ is stupid. all brands suck at something. whats your point anyway?
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>>107716819
9070XT is literally in the OP though.
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>>107716750
Looks fine, but consider changing the bottom intake fans to the lower position. I assume you can do it on that case but I'm not 100% sure. Lower down towards the vents = better.
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I just took a shower for the first time in 4 years because I literally had no other option and now I feel like I'm not a true gaymer anymore
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>bought rx 9070 xt yesterday coming from nvidia gpu
>meticulously go through all that DDU bullshit involving pre-installing drivers, unplugging internet, swapping, etc
>finally finish setup
>constant black screen flickering in games
>nonstop troubleshooting and searching for answers with no answers in sight
>bite the bullet and pay $180 more for a 5070ti knowing I'll be riding on it for a long time because of the bullshit shortages
The schizos were right. AMD drivers fucking suck. I don't like the price proposition from nJewvidia either but their software is just too established and doesn't give me a headache with the ease of plug-and-play support. Fuck this gay world.
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>>107716847
I was considering mounting them on the underside and getting a vertical mount.
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>>107716836
Nta but they need to add the 9060 XT 16 gb version too
I don't really know why it got excluded this time, I've got the feeling this is just another nicotroon hijacking
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>>107716833
>whats your point anyway?
brand shilling is retarded
>>107716830
Mid range should include the 9070, it's the same price or cheaper than the 5070 in many markets and about 10% faster. And 5060ti is not really a higher tier card than the 9060xt, it's about 10% faster while being about 20% more expensive. I'd recommend adding an "entry level" or "lower mid range" tier for those cards.
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>>107716865
Underside fans + turn off the mobo RGB and it'll look way cleaner. I did basically the same with my Lancool 217.
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>4K
>9070 XT
Ain't no way.
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>>107716836
>is literally in the OP

technically correct, which as we all know is the best kind of correct. instead of /shilling/ the discussion should be about the /pcbg/ and the /tech/. /compooting/ for every use case and budget. not that any of you raging /faggots/ care as long as you get your (you)s.

so to >>107716830 i reply to the OP >>107716672 to add stay on topic and report garbage for the thread, stupid shit like >>107716848 and the copypastas >>107716849
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>bought 5070 ti yesterday coming from amd gpu
>meticulously go through all that DDU bullshit involving pre-installing drivers, unplugging internet, swapping, etc
>finally finish setup
>constant black screen flickering in games
>nonstop troubleshooting and searching for answers with no answers in sight
>bite the bullet and switch back to iphone knowing I'll be riding on it for a long time because of the bullshit shortages
The schizos were right. Nvidia drivers fucking suck. I don't like the price proposition from nJewvidia either but their software is just too established and doesn't give me a headache with the ease of plug-and-play support. Fuck this gay world.
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>>107716849
As a long time user I have to say that Nvidia's drivers have never been buggier with lots of game specific bugs these days. However they're pretty good at patching their drivers and making sure bugs don't go on for longer than 6 months so at least you aren't left to fend for yourself with 3rd party tools and hacks
Were truly living in an age of competency crisis
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>>107716882
y not
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Anon just bought me the components I was lacking to build my gaming PC, my bussy really hurts but now I'm set for the next 5 years
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>>107716849
I did the other way around
>got 1080 ti because I got tired of my junk r9 380
>no driver uninstalling, no other change, just 1:1 swap and installed the nvidia drivers
I never crashed not once in forza again
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>>107716874
>brand shilling is retarded
ok.

>should include the 9070
yep after the latest driver update it's a fair choice for anyone.
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>>107716903
kek nvidia has had their fair share of shit driver releases, agree that they are good about fixing most stuff quickly.
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I'm gonna make it I'm gonna make it I'm gonna make it I'm gonna make it I'm gonna make it
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Is it possible to somehow make a Wii mote work on PC so I can play resident evil 4 with the benefits of the Wii mote aiming? I don't mean just making the buttons input work, I mean using the cursor thing
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>>107716899
It shouldn't have been such a painful experience trying to get my new and shiny red team GPU working. The complaints about AMD having shit drivers didn't spawn for no reason. There's always a hint of truth to them.
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>>107716961
kek your /pcbg/ /skills/ must be weak
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>>107716973
Anon that's just a nicotroon post c'mon
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My body is ready.
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Right as I decide to switch to Intel from my Ryzen 5600X to max out my DDR4, this shit happens. I already bought a B760 board. I fucking hate myself for not switching sooner.
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Flat 4k 32" Monitor or Curved 4k 32" Monitor?
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>>107716961
they literally just work. if it works on steam deck why cant u
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>>107716988
curved if va, flat if not
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>>107716981
Damn nigga
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>>107716981
Do you actually need 12TB of NVMe storage?

I have 4TB, but the rest of my 50TB of storage is HDDs.
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>>107717001
>if va
Could you elaborate? No idea what that means.
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>>107716987
What is the economic logic of CPUs going up in price? Is it because since ram is so expensive more people won't build a PC so they wanna make more money from the little sales they manage to get?
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>>107716987
Could maybe look at alder lake, safe to buy used unlike raptor lake.
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>>107717010
panel types, va has slightly worse viewing angles than ips or oled, a curved panel might help offset that
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>>107717029
It's an OLED but it's for games and movies.
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>>107717025
yes.
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>>107717027
My only issue with that is it seems like Raptor Lake had some pretty big gains and used to be easy to find at those same prices just a bit ago, so I'm pretty hesitant to spend that much on 12th gen.
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>>107717025
People are resorting to build DDR4 systems and the fastest CPUs on DDR4 are high on demand (5800/5700X3D functionally extinct).
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>>107717060
How come so many people were planning to build a PC and this shit happens, I don't get it, it feels planned
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>>107717043
I'd go with the flat panel, in that case
>>107717060
>5800/5700X3D functionally extinct
It's crazy how people are paying $300-500 for those on the used market.
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>>107716992
It's funny really. I came home yesterday with a 9070 xt in hand. Took a selfie of it and sent it to my friends while screaming FUCK NVIDIA WOOOO thinking I could easily ditch their greedy asses for overcharging on marginally better cards from previous generations. Then just a day later after bullshit troubleshooting with no fixes, I went back to microcenter like a cuck to swap it again to nvidia. I really wanted to like AMD but the bad first impression just ruined everything.
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>>107717003
Two are for use. One will be a backup or a flip if prices are still going on in a few months. Bought earlier this month.
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>>107717080
Goddamnit I need to watch me some retarded echii anime so bad like when I was 14 years old
Too bad I can't do weed anymore so I can get super retarded and horny while watching it
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>>107717079
>It's crazy how people are paying $300-500 for those on the used market.
Right? I paid $229 for a 5700x3d and I wasn't sure it was worth it over the $109 I paid for a 5600x for a friend.
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>>107717025
Stores and people keep applying value to PC shit that is beyond just performance

>>107717078
PC sales have been dropping for awhile due to people being tapped out of free money.
Pricing has ever truly been about demand for a long time. It's all price games, they'd rather sit on stock or cut production then sell for any less than what sellers/manufacturers think they should get.
It's all so tiresome
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Ram prices ruined fucking everything
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>>107716981
https://files.catbox.moe/xqw7pi.mp4
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>>107716981
>civic
ngmi
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>>107717057
>My only issue with that is it seems like Raptor Lake had some pretty big gains
There were
14600KF is still "only" $250. +$50 what it was for a while would hurt if you think about it too much but in a vacuum that's not terrible if staying on ddr4 is the goal.
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>>107717132
shit has been so bad for so long I would probably be called a liar if I said you used to be able to buy things day one for UNDER msrp
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>>107717157
I bought a 9070 XT under MSRP two weeks ago
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>>107717168
used to be a rule, not an exception
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I need tech support :(
So I built this SFPC and the case came with a power supply but the power supply burnt out after a few minutes when I tried it. It's been sitting in my closet for a few weeks, I finally got a new power supply and it works but now I can't get to the bios screen. I've tried connecting it to the tv through both HDMI, DisplayPort and USB-C but it doesn't detect any input. Other than that USB gets power, fans are spinning and LEDs are on.
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>>107717183
True, but at least AMD GPU prices were good for a month or so.
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>>107717197
have you tried plugging the cable into the GPU directly?
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>>107717203
What will niggas do when AMD GPUs also go up in price next year
Literally even the poorfag options will be expensive
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>>107717208
There is no GPU
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I have no clue on PC building and everything sounds too mumbo-jumbo, also I fear I might screw it up...... (And I even have the cash kek)
Guess I will be stuck buying corpo shit, guess I will cope with PC handhelds.....

Unless some anon is too kind to explain this complex shit for a retard
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>>107717213
They've started going up around Christmas already. AMD will probably rise throughout January, and then Nvidia will go bananas too, once again.
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>>107717216
does your cpu have an igpu...?
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>>107717213
amd hasnt been poorfag choice for years. rtx 5050 is cheaper than anything amd is offering. nothing even needs to be said about their cpu's, they completely abandoned the budget segment so Intel or 4 year old amd parts is the only choice for poor builds.
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>>107717216
idk man, pop the cmos battery and make sure everything is plugged in correctly
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>>107717221
There are extensive POV videos on Youtube covering the entire build process, and you can find videos for your specific case. It's really easy, I completed my first build earlier this year and it went well.
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>>107717221
It's really not that hard anon c'mon
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>>107717197
Hopefully your PSU didn't nuke the whole thing. What brand was it?
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>>107717254
>>107717277
you idiots are responding to a low quality baitpost
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>>107717254
>>107717277
If it's easy like plug and play , which I fear it isn't, then people are better off buying premade slop, because frying a circuit that costs 10 years worth of slavery in the 3rd world by goofing around is not enticing
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>>107716708
You vill rent your computer from the cloud and you vill be happy.
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>>107717239
Yeah, it's a similar CPU to the one the Steam machine has. Ryzen 7 something G
>>107717280
If that's possible it probably did. Considering just selling it for parts so I can eat this month.
The PSU didn't have a brand and the case is some chinkshit.
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>>107717304
Holy shit anon if your PSU wast certified 80+ it probably fried the whole thing
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>>107717304
Yea it's possible. That's why a decent PSU is recommended, though even that inst a guaranty. I had a EVGA one strait short and would blow the house breaker whenever turned on. Fortunately nothing else died and they sent me a new one.
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>>107717304
>>107717315
>>107717320
anons psu probably
love this one in particular because it lives up to its name
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>>107716907
It's incredible what modern computer graphics can do.



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