>>107731379
Work, computing.

>>107731379
>ASCII text takes up 25KB
An ASCII character is represented by one byte.

>>107731405
>computing
WTF does this even mean at this point?

>Work
Like?
They used fax.

>An ASCII character is represented by one byte.
Yes chatGPTs retarded brother now answer the question!

>>107731379
>>Muh calculations
>>Muh word processors
Look at the alternatives of that time and before.

>>107731429
>manual spreadsheets with physical calculators
>word processing where you can't fix errors easily
>CAD with a ruler and pencil
kek zoomies have no idea what a leap computers provided in the workspace

>>107731379
We had this thing called a "modem". That, connected to a "phone line", would allow us to "communicate" with other "computer users" and companies.

Imagine the possibilities. Live financial information, sending and receiving communications to both individuals and groups, looking up stored information on many subjects, and accessing larger and more powerful computers. Crazy, huh?

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>>107731429
>Look at the alternatives of that time and before.
OK elaborate on this.
>>Muh word processors
I made a question and you failed to answer it!
See:
>SO what did you simply print all of this out like the computers is some typewriter before you make the print command and then only store the paper copy?
THIS IS AREAL QUESTION YOU FAILED TO ANSWER!

So it was a glorified typewriter? Nothing more? ANSWER THIS YOU BOT!

>If you write 10 pages your floppy is full and this is all that a CP/M can handle.
>WTF where they writing on this?!

This is a real question. Like a really real question! Did they print that shit out and delete it from the computer or did they store it on floppy discs? They they retrieve it from their floppy disc cabinet or something?

>>107731478
see >>107731455 and >>107731463

>>107731455
>>manual spreadsheets with physical calculators

The importance of spreadsheets cannot be overstated. Even if black science guy were to spend the rest of his natural life talking about them, he wouldn't scratch the surface of their importance.

>>107731463
But for WHAT??

>>107731426
>They used fax.

If you don't know the fucking difference between computer and fax machine then please, I'm begging you, actually kill yourself instead of making pointless threads.

This is /g/, technology board. It's heavily fucking implied that you're supposed to have some clue about technology to be here.
Now zoom zoom out of here.

>>107731499
/thread

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>>107731487
you need 2 go two the learing sentre

>>107731499
This but a bait thread, anon.

>>107731499
>>107731510
Yet I will get dozens of (You)'s from angry boomers. :]

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>>107731463
>We had this thing called a "modem". That, connected to a "phone line", would allow us to "communicate" with other "computer users" and companies.
>
>Imagine the possibilities

OK retard. I am Gen Y so I remember.
>connected to a "phone line"
Quick question retarded zoomer. How the fuck do you think FAX worked?!

>Live financial information
First time learning that teletext existed and was live transmitted in TV signals back in the day?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teletext
yes retardo you do not need a computer network or a phone app to see what the stock prices are.

>sending and receiving communications
Of fucken what? To whom?
>sending and receiving communications
First time learning how old time telephones worked or existed zoom zoom? Look no computers!

> communications
once more if a business wanted to send a legal document they use FAX since you know signatures and shit!

>looking up stored information on many subjects
Like examples?
See this is why people hate you retards.
1) Say what age you are
2) Say how you interacted with this technology.
If yo ufail to do so oy uare simply some rtard repeating nonsense articles fro mthe internet.

I remember my dad using FAX in the office and was confused by the idea. However later I realized that businesses did send legal documents over to other offices to sign and the signatures where considered legally binding.

I also remember dad getting FAX and dad using the photo copy machine a lot.

I know how popular FAX was and a photo copy machine was.

These things combined with a phone line basically eliminate 95% of all le computer use cases in the 80s

>>107731483
>see
NOT ANSWERING THE QUESTION I SEE
>SO what did you simply print all of this out like the computers is some typewriter before you make the print command and then only store the paper copy?
THIS IS AREAL QUESTION YOU FAILED TO ANSWER!

So it was a glorified typewriter? Nothing more? ANSWER THIS YOU BOT!

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>>107731499
>If you don't know the fucking difference between computer and fax machine then
NO NO NO Actually answer the question you colossal retard!

WTF are you even saying?
>Umm Fax is also computers and shit
OR is it
>FAX was never popular
????
What is it retard?!

>If you don't know the fucking difference between computer and fax machine
FAX machine
No user facing OS or no OS at all.
No ability to access the electronics or programs that run on the machine.

VS
Computer with a OS.
Do we continue fagot?

>>107731526
>Yet I will get dozens of (You)'s from angry boomers. :]
More like you fagots repeat the same nonsense tech jurnalist babble all day and pretend like FAX never existed.

>>107731588
>So it was a glorified typewriter?
What the fuck do you think word processing is?
They are tools, you could do these things before already but slower and more inefficient.

Literally:
>>107731455
>>manual spreadsheets with physical calculators
>>word processing where you can't fix errors easily
>>CAD with a ruler and pencil
Plus sharing like having someone pick up your papers from outbox instead of >>107731463.

>Nothing more?
Did you miss the other things listed?

I sure hope this is bait. So fucking retarded I agree with: >>107731499
>This is /g/, technology board. It's heavily fucking implied that you're supposed to have some clue about technology to be here.
>Now zoom zoom out of here.

>>107731630
kek the lack of basic understanding from OP is hilarious
>a NAIL GUN? SO IT'S JUST A GLORIFIED HAMMER?!?

>>107731487
To fap to ASCII porn

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>>107731379
>Post IBM computer
>literally International Business Machines
>Business

>>107731630
>>107731652
>>107731670
/thread

>>107731588
>>107731623
Many retards back then thought the same, that they would never need a computer. Doesn't mean that other people didn't use them for the stated things.

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>>107731670
just to point out the obvious

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>>107731630
You failed to answer these questions
1) Say what age you are
2) Say how you interacted with this technology.

Thereby everything you say is confirmed to be a lie!
>from outbox
WTF is a outbox?

>What the fuck do you think word processing is?
No idea a buzzword, like what is a phone at this point?

Phone -> Cell Phone -> Smart Phone -> Phone ????

>What the fuck do you think word processing is?
Answer the question budget GPT!
This is a real question. Like a really real question! Did they print that shit out and delete it from the computer or did they store it on floppy discs? They they retrieve it from their floppy disc cabinet or something?
NEVER ANSWERED!

>>107731630
>Literally:
>>>107731455
The more you keep spamming the same trash the more I will ridicule you!

>>107731487
Well, for me, I remotely connected to my university not only to download and upload assignments, but also to collaborate with other people on group projects.

Are you really getting upset over what people did with their computers 40 years ago?

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>>107731709
>>107731681
>>107731670
This thread is one gigantic shitpost where all the retarded bots of /g/ have a meltdown.

>>107731686
>back then thought the same,
I accept your unconditional surrender.

Based on my experience and the information of others
>Ewww why is japan still using FAX?!

The conclusion is simple computers where not that important back in the day you are some zoomer or other young adult who thinks he is smart for repeating literally nonsense and distorted lies of the tech industry.

>Doesn't mean that other people didn't use them
You literally can not make a legally binding contract on e-mail back in the day the only way is FAX!

You have a meltdown because you are a retard indoctrinated by the tech industry into repeating this crap!

>Doesn't mean that other people didn't use
How where they used then?
>[[[[shitposter shits himself]]]]
It is over is it not?
If you want to send a letter to the other office you FAX them.

This is how it was.
And these letters work perfectly in the paper office for archiving etc.

If you need to send documents to sign you FAX them.
This is literally the only way since e-mail is non binding back in the day.

If you want to talk to them you PHONE THEM. Because computers literally can not handle voice chat and are only a extra unnecessary burden in this communication process.

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>>WTF is a outbox?
>when you expect a zoomer to at least know what e-mail is yet alone where inbox and outbox terms come from that e.mail also uses.

You realize this is a ragebait thread?

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>>107731588

>>107731866
Yeah but it's still hilarious to imagine OP actually being this retarded.

>>107731463
wait so computers have always been glorified Facebook machines?

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>>107731856
NOT THAT ANON!
>Are you really getting upset over what people did with their computers 40 years ago?
No I am frustrated that I get the same retarded non answer that are never followed up if questioned, especially that I bring FACTS while all the others bring is angry shitposting and lies.


>university
Different subject then my question about the office.

>40 years ago?
That is 1986
> my university
How old are you exactly?

> my university
What did your university do exactly?

>but also to collaborate
>40 years
So we are talking about the 80s no your 2010s zoomers yes?
>but also to collaborate
How exactly you be in some TXT only chatroom and.... Do what exactly?
Is this LAN on the university or you connecting from home?

And connecting on what? I remind you that BBS (OVER PHONE LINES LIKE FAX) are totally different from the internet!

So you all are on some TXT chatroom and typing in words to one another and burning money on the phone connection.... WTF where you talking about there? What was the assignment?

> not only to download and upload assignments
in 1986????
What was the assignment? Was it TXT only shit?

Daily reminder that anything after 2000 is disqualified.

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>>107732003
>>107731875
>Yeah but it's still hilarious to imagine OP actually being this retarded.
Nice samefaging however all your leis are exposed.

>>107731903
>wait so computers have always been glorified Facebook machines?
Not really I did not mention this to try to find out more however the history we have today is literally a bunch of twisted lies and nonsense.

From other fragments people did mention that the fridge sized PDP computers where actually used for CNC. This makes sense. You have a factory who makes metal parts for molds etc you need to operate HEAVY equipment who drills metal. G-Code is not that taxing on the storage if it is a simple geometric shape.

Circle 123mm Z8mm;
Circle 211mm interpolate line between; 
Circle 211mm  Z9mm;
Circle 123mm interpolate line between;
Circle 123mm Z8mm;

However this fact is totally covered up with all the nonsense of
>Muh businesses!
>Muh need for computers!
>Muh office
And all the retards who are the loudest about it these days and can not answer follow up questions so no one knows WTF where they doing outside of generic nonsense of.
>Communication
And when facts about FAX in the offices are brought up they have meltdowns.

>>107732021
>samefag
Nah. No point.

>>107732021
>>Nice samefaging however all your leis are exposed.
>noo there's no way more than one person thinks I'm retarded
ok zoomie

>>107732026
I'm starting to think this isn't even bait

>>107732026
>>107732030
Pictured not contributing to the thread.
Pictured 4chan fagot stopped answering questions.

>>computers where actually used for CNC.
>CAD was literally bought up already at the beginning of the thread

>>107732030
>I'm starting to think this isn't even bait
OP is definitely pretending to be retarded on purpose.

>>107732053
>>CAD
I was talking about controlling the CNC machine you total fagot.

>Muh CAD buzzword
Computer Aided Design can mean lots of things!

>CAD was literally bought up
And you did not elaborate on this.
Face it you shitpost nonsense talking points tech journalists indoctrinated you into without even fucken thinking if I did not talk about CNC you still be having meltdowns how FAX never existed or is a computer or something.

>you still be having meltdowns how FAX
Never talked about fax but whatever you say, kiddo.

>>107732155
Posting in a retard thread. The original term was computer aided drafting (CAD). It replaced manual drafting for engineers that is tedious as fuck.

I use a 8MHz 8086 Amstrad PC 1512 running DOS 3.20, with a hard drive, and back up data to floppies. The computer is great for text editing (personal notes and diary) and I keep domestic finance in Lotus 123 spreadsheets. Using compressors like pkzip or ARJ almost doubles floppy space for text and spreadsheet data.
My only complaint is that VGA monitors have much better resolution in text mode. For C coding and PGP use with modern key sizes it's much better to use at least a 386+ machine, which is also a borderline 80's computer. The 8086 computer is really inefficient for intensive computations.

>>107732160
>>107732179
>The original term
Look the fagot can not talk about FAX in the office!

OR will it be the fantasy of doing your university work on a 1986 computer?
Who magically you also stopped answering about?!

> It replaced manual drafting
WOW you literally can not process the fact that computer where used to control the movement of drills in CNC machines.
UNREAL!

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>>107732254
>The computer is great for text editing (personal notes and diary) and I keep domestic finance in Lotus 123 spreadsheet
ANd this is a retarded way to do any of that.
>Oh no my hecking personal finances in my hecking spread sheet; muh lotus 123!
Is retarded.

Using pen and paper is better and far more accurate for personal finances.

>The computer is great for text editing (personal notes and diary)
Do you print them out (glorified typewriter) or not?

>when you're so new you think Anonymous is all one user

>>107732301
More like when you're so new you don't know what posting cooldowns are.

>>107732296
>Do you print them out (glorified typewriter) or not?
Can you rephrase that? Depends what you need them for.

>>107732322
Read the thread, he's not being serious.

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>>107732302
>Can you rephrase that?
???
You did say:
>computer is great for text editing (personal notes and diary)
So.... do you print them out or keep them in the computer?

You presumably create notes. What do you do with them after you finish writing them?

>>107731929
On the off chance this is not some ragebait troll, I'll just give a brief overview of what a typical project would look like- create a system to handle databases in different work-environment departments using a single user interface. Create said database and modify for different uses in each department. R&D, accounting, what's now called "human resources", company management, etc. System accessible to multi-users simultaneously with restrictions on access according to department and company guidelines. You get the idea. I hope.

Collaboration was different members of the group are responsible for working on different modules individually and the group working together on integration into a single, cohesive software suite.

We used 2 systems, Prime and Digital. PrimOS and RSTS/E respectively.

And, yes, I guess this could all be done with a.. .fax machine... but the project would probably still be unfinished here in 2026.

>>107732296
I like minimalism, and the computer reminds me of being a kid in the 80s. Don't care if it's "retarded". XT computers are great for editing text files, and my magnetic media still works after 30+ years
Keeping records of my heating oil consumption is much easier in Lotus 123 than with pencil and paper. I know because I've done it both ways.
I'm perfectly aware any trashy laptop will do the same muchore easily, but that was not the point of the thread.

>>107732361
>can't even reply properly
lmao

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>>107731455
>CAD with a ruler and pencil
nigger that's just called drafting

>>107731379
Everything you stated stems from a distorted and altogether insufficient understanding of reality.

kys

>>107731379
Payroll, inventory management, database management, sending faxes (you could do this from PCs), keeping a list of contacts, printing documents, generating invoices, creating presentations without having to fuck with film. Payroll and inventory management were definitely the big one for businesses, it’s what a lot of the early mainframes were used for as well. Being able to buy one expensive machine instead of paying a hoard of mathematicians to crunch numbers was a massive gain for businesses. It also meant accounting, orders and payroll could be done regularly, each night or each week, instead of being an end of month affair.

>>107731792
An outbox is exactly what it is in email, but physical. You’d type up letters, forms, internal correspondence, put them in your outbox and then a few times a day someone would come round and pick them up, then distribute them appropriately. Faxes were expensive, and only important people would get their own. Likewise, they’d deliver any documents for you into your inbox. Large companies had their own mail systems to handle internal document distribution, because otherwise you’d have highly paid engineers spending half their day trying to track down people to give letters too, assuming they were even in the office.