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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D
-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D

*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5
*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand
*Prices have increased for Raptor Lake processors, only worth considering if discounted or if reusing DDR4. New DDR5 builds should be AM5 or LGA1851

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
*Most listings online are not actually 7950

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p

Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)

4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native/High-end: 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

Previous : >>107727272
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>>107731490
Does 620w PSU enough for RTX 5070 ti ? I have AMD 5700x CPU
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>>107731490
Pic is literally me
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>>107731555
That thread looks a bit biased. This OP seems to show recommendations from all parties- AMD, Nvidia, and Intel.
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Should I buybought a G5 or a S95F

>G5
glossy, no one connect box, probably more stable and less fuck ups long term

>S95F
muh color, muh samsung game motion plus, no diagonal dithering

AAAAAAAAAAAAHH
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>Faggot jannie deleted the one created first and everyone was using
Kill yourself
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does anyone else not give a fuck about idle temps? i'm using an AIO with a 9950x3d, vidya is a /budget/ 5070, 64GB of shitty g.skill samsung RAM. CPU idle is around 45-46c, RAM idles around 42-43c, GPU idles at around 48-49c at zero fan speed.

i like the quiet but am i gonna burn my shit up being retarded?
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>Nicobaby thread deleted
Top kek
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ok so the other thread got deleted for whatever reason. i don't care about your retarded battle for control of ops, so posting this again:
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Real OP

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 217, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget: 9600X, 7600X, 7500F
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
AVOID Shittel

>COOLER
AIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Premium: Lian Li GA II Lite, LCD: TRYX Panorama
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.

>RAM
Gaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: NM790
Mid range: SN7100
Premium: SN850X
Flagship: SN8100

>GPU
1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$250
1440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB
4K:Used RTX 4090, RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Radeon AI PRO R9700, CUDA Mandatory: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090 ti
AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b

>PSU
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2
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I'd really appreciate some help as I'm on my wits end. First time building a PC so bear with me.

I'm planning to make a build in the Meshify 3 ambience pro case with a 9070 XT. Problem is I want to get the red devil variant which is 340mm long but also on the site it's noted that it's 352mm with the bracket while the case allows for GPUs up to 349mm. Pcpartpicker and Buildcores show the case to be compatible with the gpu but I'm still worried that it might not fit properly.

I even wrote both to PowerColor and to Fractal Design. PowerColor's response was useless, forwarding me to the site with the specifications while Fractal answered me that they are not certain as they haven't tested it. They also told me that "A longer GPU will provide better airflow. That will create two chambers in the case. One for the CPU and one for the GPU" as I was wondering whether the GPU being millimiters away from the front fans would be a problem.

Will the red devil fit in the case? If not I guess I will be getting the hellhound variant as I'm going for a white rig.
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>>107731490
QRD on why the other thread was deleted?
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>>107731589
https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-announces-32-inch-4k-qd-oled-gaming-monitors-with-5-layer-tandem-oled-panels
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>>107731585
no? those are pretty good to very good depending on your room temperature. The thing that matters is temperature under load.
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>>107731585
Normal temps for AMD x3d CPUs. Seriously. I was concerned going from a 13700K that idled around 32 to a 9800x3d that idled around 43. It's where it's supposed to be.
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>>107731577
I bought a G5. In terms of brightness they are both top notch. The S95F has less clear text due to odd pixel structure. That was the deal breaker for me, but either seems to be good.
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>>107731597
>vshape pixel layout that fixes text fringing
i am interested in this too
https://videocardz.com/newz/samsung-starts-shipping-34-inch-219-360hz-qd-oled-panels-with-v-stripe-subpixel-layout
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>>107731585
You're fine. New builders tend to obsess over temps a bit too much, especially idle temps, but shits built to run hot. Obviously if your temps gaming are getting close to 90c that should raise some red flags, but 40c idle is normal especially on AMD. Don't get paranoid about it.
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So how does ARGB work?
Just hook everything up and use some sort of software somewhere?

My cooler, GPU, and case fans are all ARGB, so I figure I should hook it up with this new build.
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>>107731585
You aren't going to burn up your shit at 50c idle kek
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>>107731592
stop spamming your schizo nonsense. your spam thread was already deleted. With cause.
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>>107731589
all these will be pq mogged by a TV, start of the year sales currently going on, this is the last time to take the TV Pill for a period, sure CES 2026 will show new tvs and crap but it will all be the same slop, the only thing not confirmed if samsung tvs will have 240hz or some crazy shit
you will never experience eye blinding HDR without tvmaxxing
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>>107731583
oh yeah, i forgot:

wishing all the jannies a happy new year, thanks for putting up with my /shitposting/, may your year be full of joyous /yiffing/
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>>107731585
Personally I hate the sound of fans ramping up from zero so I keep a 15% minimum and my CPU idles under 30C. But if everything ramps up under load you're not gonna burn anything.
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>>107731515
Is it OC? TDP is 300 but along with everything else that doesn't look good at all. Don't skimp on the PSU if you're starting a new build.
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If noctua fans are good for being quiet, what is king for cfm? Still noctua?
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>>107731606
Yea. Run Open RGB or the bloatware of your MB.
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>>107731596
OP going on rants over anyone else not choosing AMD
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>>107731606
Yeah, I just use OpenRGB which is open source software that can control a lot of different ARGB peripherals in order to avoid installing a bunch of different bloatware from the manufacturer.
Case fans will usually go into a fan hub that plugs into an ARGB header on your board.
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>>107731593
it should fit, anon.

>you can always return it if it doesn't.
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>>107731606
There's the old type that uses the argb 12v port, the newer and more commonly found argb 5v port and also proprietary argb implementations that interface with the pc with a usb 2.0 connection
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>>107731601
I've gone irl and looked at the C5, G5, S95F, S90F and so on
Man, every time you see that fucking matte screen it's just... tiring. looking at the S90F in store lighting it's even better, it looks better than a S95F in general, just tiring
then you have Samsungs fuck ups with their OCD and the failures/blackscreening shit associated with it due to more failure points, LG is just more guaranteed long term as a display/tv quality in general
idk, too hard to decide

>The S95F has less clear text due to odd pixel structure. That was the deal breaker for me
yeah that might be even shittier, but the funny thing here is rtings recommends the s95f over g5 for pc use/gaming due to G5 having dithering
are you using the G5 at pc distance?
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>>107731653
why are you such a sussy baka?
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>>107731653
Trolling/flamewar baiting in the op is grounds for deletion
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>>107731621
Nope. just base version. My PSU is old 620w BRONZE. is it enough ? Really got a budget for GPU only for now. is PSU price fucked too ?
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I'd still like additional opinions on whether used i9 with motherboard, 32gb ddr4 3200 ram, and an AIO cooler is worth $450. So far I've got the impression that I should haggle it 50-100 down, is that the majority opinion?
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>bought a new PC
>don't even feel like playing anything
what are some good games to stress the system?
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>>107731669
I am a sensitive young man with OCD and slightly autistic

>>107731673
Different opinion is not trolling or baiting.
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>>107731596
the other OP shills for amd because nvidia is investing in an R&D facility in israel. so they are waging a disinformation campaign which only serves to mislead the /noobs/ that come here expecting 4chan to excrete actual factual Knowledge.

>but /pcbg/ is not /pol/.

amd has one good midrange vidya card (it's in the real sticky) and (in my own opinion) is the patricians choice in CPUs.

buy what you need based on your use case and budget, anons, and above all have fun!
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>>107731685
I just ran steel nomad and cyberpunk on my new cyber monday 5090 build. Now i'm watching youtube with it on my second screen while playing my switch 2 on my main screen kek.
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You fags need to pick a thread. Ram for decent price considering the situation.
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What are the decent PSU manufacturers nowadays?
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>>107731638
>OpenRGB
NTA, but how is that compared to SignalRGB? I have mostly Corsair crap and iCue was working OK, but suddenly the ram stopped showing up. That and having to use Gigabyte software for the GPU and mobo... I let SignalRGB control it all. But it seems to suck a lot of resources. Is OpenRGB better? Easy to use?
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>>107731707
Seasonic.
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>>107731691
>Different opinion
You keep your brand-war-instigating opinions to yourself.
You've been lucky that there are a few mouthbreathing jannies at this board who delete /pcbg/ threads based on post creation date.
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>>107731700
Thank you for taking the time out of your day to immortalize me into a meme you mindbroken clown. The seethe has reached critical levels.
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>>107731599
>>107731600
ok thx anons. Under load i'm good, the AIO pump and fans both get ramped up when needed and CPU is well under 87c during sustained stress testing with OCCT.

idgaf about the vidayacard, a 5070 isn't going to burn a 12VHPWR connector.
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>>107731691
I suggest you build a Core Ultra 285 with a nice RTX 5080. It will run well and perhaps distract you from your fixation on the buying choices of other people. Cheers!
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>>107731708
openrgb implements reverse engineered rgb controls from official software programs. if your hardware's rgb implementation is inherently heavy, it will also be heavy in openrgb.
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>corsair dominator
also known as decorative prop, it is not RAM just a case to fill the slot for pictures.
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>>107731605
thx, not a new builder but it's my first AIO build. i'm really enjoying the quietness of it.
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>>107731736 meant for >>107731701
everybody in this thread should know already but just in case
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>>107731736
its dumb cuz the heatsinks are mega large and causes clearance problems not found with other ram kits
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I have the B-350F Gaming strix whatever motherboard from a million years ago with 16GB of RAM in 2 sticks. Can I get another 2 sticks of 16GB DDR4 and put them in, and still have it work, or do they need to be perfectly matched?

Thanks guys!
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Hey lads. maybe a dumb question. i'm getting an M.2 card for my somewhat older PC. (i've never had an m.2 card before)

I checked the manual and it says it's compatible with 3.0 cards, pic related.

my question is, would a 4.0 card also work? like i assume i wont get the faster speeds from the 4.0 but would it still work? or does it HAVE to be a 3.0

i ask because someday if i upgrade this pc it would be nice to have a 4.0 already for it.
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>>107731732
I'm ready to try it. I do like iCue since I have great control over cooling, but RGB is a clusterf00k.
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>>107731761
NVMe is backward compatible in all realistic cases.
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Here's my current build:
>i5-12400
>3060 Ti 8GB
>32GB DDR4
>650W PSU

I'm thinking of upgrading my GPU now before the inevitable price hikes and I'm seeing the following

>RX 9070 16GB for £500
>RX 9070 XT 16GB for £560

If I get the 9070 XT I'll get a 2x performance boost but I'll have to upgrade the power supply

Which card should I get?
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Used Rtx 4090 for around 1900-2000€ or New 5090 for around 2700€ what should i do?
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>>107731765
fyi openrgb has been pretty negligible in resources for me but I also only use static lights which doesnt require a cpu core to constantly manage the rgb. the interface is also pretty meh, which is par for the course for open source programs.
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>>107731761
It will still work at 3.0 speeds
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>>107731761
yes, you can use pcie 4.0
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>>107731773
9070xt+PSU and start thinking about a new mobo/processor too
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>>107731674
It's fine, not ideal.
Set a 250W power limit and undervolt the card using MSI Afterburner if you're worried.
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i have to make a choice between a mini led VA 27in 1440p 180hz moniotr and an OLED, same specs expect 240hz
oled is roughly twice the price although it is not a concern for me really, im buying it for my dorm room for gaming/productivity/media/web browsing mixed usage so to speak
FYI I also have a 4k ips 32in at home
the displays are
>AOC Q27G3XMN/BK
and
>MSI MAG 271QPX QD-OLED E2
im leaning more toward the oled but i want to hear some opinions before i pull the trigger on either
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>>107731802
>MSI MAG 271QPX QD-OLED E2
This monitor's worth getting if it's still discounted to around $400.
OLED monitors won't get much cheaper for a while (until Chinese display panel manufacturers enter the market).
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>>107731777
Cool. No rainbow unicorn vomit here. I just want a single static color for everything.
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>>107731796
Upgrading the mobo means replacing the RAM and I really don't wanna sell my left kidney for DDR5
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>>107731800
Hopefully im not regretting my RTX 5070ti purchase. Im still skeptic about those VRAM size, but oh well. I can sell it for cheap in case shit happens like RTX 6070ti 32gb is out
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>>107731677
>used i9
Not worth the gamble if it's a 13/14th gen CPU.
You might have to downclock the CPU if the chip has already degraded.
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need a quiet cpu cooler, is the phantom spirit quiet enough? using amd stock cooler rn and its so loud i can hear it through my closed back headphones
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>>107731707
read the sticky and pick out the one that fits your power and shekel budgets

>>PSU
>Buying guide:
>https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/
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>>107731814
its a bit more than 600 usd atm while the cheapest oleds of said specs go for around 540
euroanon here
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>>107731839
>RTX 6070ti 32gb
The memory shortage just gave NVIDIA more excuses to stick with the 8/12/16GB VRAM configs for mainstream gaming video cards.
They were already selling 5090D 24GB in China before the shortages started.
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>>107731490
>even the AIO 5090s are out of stock
are things really that bad?
Also, will I regret ordering a 5090 directly from Asus's website?
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>>107731854
I'm not sure if that MSI QD-OLED monitor's worth 600 EUR in 2026 unless that's the all-time low price for your country.
The AOC Q27G3XMN/BK isn't worth 300 EUR either.
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>>107731773
>9070 XT I'll get a 2x performance boost but I'll have to upgrade the power supply

you can *maybe* get away with 650w if it's a good quality PSU, the 9070XT will blow the 3060 into the weeds
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As someone looking to upgrade before everything goes to shit is the 5800XT a worthy upgrade at $200 and a free $90 mouse thrown in? I'm still on a Ryzen 3600 and know there's no way this thing is going to hold me over until the market normalizes. Gaming at 1440p btw
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I am going to run a 9950x3d,

which of the following AIOs would you recommend / suggest to avoid. They're all reasonably priced at $80 - $160 and in the 360mm flavor. Artic Liquid 3 360mm not in stock

DeepCool LT720
CoolerMaster MasterLiquid 360L
MSI MAG CORELIQUID A13 360
Thermaltake TH360 V2
be quiet! Pure Loop 2
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anyone else still rocking IPS in 2025?
I'm using an omen 27qs but am really disappointed it doesn't have ULMB/ELMB. Are there any cheap 240hz 1440p IPS monitors with ULMB included?
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>>107731878
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DP9PWX6M
this is the best performing AIO right now
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>>107731889
>Trusting Lian Li's pumps
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>>107731755
>Can I get another 2 sticks of 16GB DDR4 and put them in, and still have it work, or do they need to be perfectly matched?
You can put in two 16GB DDR4 modules, but the CPU will choose to run all four sticks at the slower supported speed if they have different base JEDEC speeds & timings.
XMP speed & timings are also not guaranteed to work with the additional modules.
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>>107731889
but has Lian Li overcome the shitty pump design? i went with Arctic and their gottendammerung pump mount only because i was worried about reports of LianLi pumps
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>>107731746
Those aren't the blank RGB shells. It actual RAM.
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>>107731878
https://www.amazon.com/MONTECH-HyperFlow-Silent-360-Black-High-Efficiency/dp/B0DY2JT3W5

thoughts on montech aios?
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>>107731885
ASUS XG27ACG was priced at around $220 during the past holiday discounts, it has ELMB Sync.
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>>107731908
Hmm, I guess I'll just live with 16GB until I can find matched pairs available somewhere. I'm pissed that now that I finally have money to upgrade everything is 4x the cost.
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i miss the days when building a new pc was exciting because you could play awesome new games. Nowadays all the demanding games are not fun to play, and the fun to play games run on a toaster
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>>107731937
>ELMB Sync.
Iirc blurbusters said asus's version of ELMB sync was very poorly implemented
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I have a 9800x3d and asrock motherboard that I haven't set up yet. How over is it for me? Should I update bios before setting it up? Undervolt?
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at least its a massive upgrade from GTX 10 series, right ???
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>thoughts
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>>107731984
another chinkshit brand shilled by paid off youtubers
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Pulled the trigger on a 5090 Gigabyte Windforce OC
Wasn't in stock, but at least I got it for €2700, which was about the cheapest one available and it's a pretty decent model.
It arrives whenever it arrives, one or four months from now I don't give a shit, but at least I don't have to worry about this GPU nonsense anymore for the next ~5 years.
However if the price jumps to 5 grand or who knows how high it's going to climb during the growing AI mania, that's going to reignite the fuck out of the scalper markets, I'll just sell it and get a 5070 Ti to last me until the 6000 series comes out.
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>>107731977
Update to the latest bios and pray, or be sensible and return the motherboard and not gamble it.
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>>107731946
You could buy two DDR4 sticks with the same XMP speed, timing, and voltages if you're worried about compatibility.
But all major memory chip manufacturers were able to supply DDR4 ICs that could be OC'd to 3200MT/s CL16 or 3600MT/s CL18.
You have to do some research on your end.
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>>107732009
i still have a lot of fun with my 10700k and 6600xt.
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>>107731802
>slowest monitor vs fastest monitor
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Any 3rd worlder nigerians here ??
Hows "GAINWARD" brand for GPUs ??
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>>107732009
>Wasn't in stock
>arrives whenever it arrives
anon i hope they don't cancel your order, have seen other anons posting about stuff they ordered not-in-stock and this happens to them, ofc the item is available at a higher price in these cases.
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>>107732037
is that a flamewar post?
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>>107731960
And that's a good thing. It means that handheld pcs that run on 15w of power can play just about all fun games that has controller support
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>>107732040
I'm Nigerian but I live in the UK so I wouldn't know
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>>107732037
He will grow up into terminally online intel, his father should have bought him Mac book.
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>>107732037
Get on my level.
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>>107732040
I had a Gainward GTX 570 back in ye olden days.
It was fine.
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>>107732037
We already knew AMD CPUs & GPUs are affordable for children, it's a brand image AMD Radeon's been desperately trying to change.
Even the more favorable AMD reviewers always say their GPUs have to be cheaper vs. NVIDIA's.
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>>107732037
>First GPU AMD
They got another one. He'll learn his lesson in due time
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>>107732077
An 11 year old building his own rig with his own money is genuinely impressive, the boomer journalist who wrote that headline was just a retard
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Alright so I'm kind of freaking the fuck out right now because my new just built AM5 pc is seemingly stuck memory training. I turned it on and let it go for a whole hour even, still no post. WTF DO I DO?!
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is there still no way to change the speed of a pump in an AIO GPU?
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>>107732103
memory training takes a few minutes, unless you've got like 192-256GB it shouldn't take more than a handful of minutes on the first boot.
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Did you people ever successfully SELL your PC hardware like CPU/GPU/etc
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>>107732104
I thought they plugged into a fan header?
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>>107732103
Shut it down
Clear CMOS
Reflash the bios

Training shouldn't take more than 5 minutes and usually takes less than 2
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anons plz don't try to troll schizos, it never works. if a post is shit or off topic just report it. trolling just pollutes /pcbg/ with more garbage.
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>>107732123
sold a kit of 2x8gb ddr4 and my am4 pc last month
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>>107732125
my zotac 5090 arctic storm didn't and I had to return it cuz the pump was obnoxiously loud at 100% and there was no way to change it
I'm thinking of getting the suprim liquid 5090 if it's any different
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>>107732104
Many modern AIOs can adjust pump speed via software, sometimes BIOSs will be able to as well, but that's less common than with software.
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>>107732043

It's of course possible, but I really doubt that's going to happen with this one, as it's not some end of life model card.
I and I made a mistake, it's the Gaming OC, not Windforce I got.

Also it's a good thing we have pretty strong consumer protection laws here in Finland, so stores aren't likely to just fuck you over on a whim.
If you lock in a price then that's what you're going to pay. Store can't just cancel the order and then say you can actually buy it but for double the price.
When I ordered my 3080 it was the Asus TUF version and for some damn reason they discontinued it very early on almost right after the launch.
I had to wait 11 months for it and then the store sent me a message that they weren't going to get the TUF in stock, so they simply gave me an Asus Strix as a replacement.
I got a €1300 card for €750, granted it was a long wait.
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>>107732103
New year, same mentally ill Nictroon.
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>>107732104
>>107732125
ja mine (Arctic) plugs into a fan header and the pump can be controlled, comes with a single cable to control pump/vrm/radiator all together and a cable that splits them out individually.

so - depends on the AIO, i guess.
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>>107732141
Posted by someone bitter at the fact that it couldn't afford a 5070 Ti at launch.
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>>107731592

>>107732158
post pic of pc and specs faggot
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>>107732137
None of the 5090 AIOs allow manual pump control because it would be too easy to potentially damage the 5090.

The best you can do on your Zotac is flip it over to the "quiet/silent" BIOS (it has a performance BIOS and a quiet BIOS).

The Suprim generally ramps the pump up along with the fan curve, so setting a custom fan curve can help reduce the pump noise at lower power levels.

The Asus ROG ASTRAL generally uses the highest end/newest designed pump, but I think it runs it at like 100% 24/7 cause it's a ROG GAYMER CARD that prioritizes raw performance over silly things like excess noise.
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How do I stop being afraid of my 5090 melting
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>>107732172
Can't hear the Astrals coil whine if the pump is louder
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Oracles of /g/, give me your wisdom.
Is there any chance that an affordable 24 GB Nvidia card will be announced soon?
The 5070 Ti Super with 24 GB VRAM is pretty much guaranteed to be canceled with the current state of RAM prices, right? That's the only thing that I've been holding out for.

Should I just pull the trigger on the 5070 Ti?
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>>107732137
>>107732172
Wow just run an open loop at that point.
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>>107732170
My PC specs are irrelevant to the fact that you've been shitting on a video card you couldn't afford for an unhealthily long time.
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>>107732189
buy a 3060 12GB and pay some nerd to convert it to 24GB
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where is the rx 9050xt?
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>>107732189
>Is there any chance that an affordable 24 GB Nvidia card will be announced soon?
it will never happen
>Should I just pull the trigger on the 5070 Ti?
yes i just did the same because 4080 supers never restocked and 50 supers are not happening
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>>107732189
Yes. I you have been eyeing a new card now is the time. At worst case you lose $100 for something you will have for years, in every other scenario you made the right choice. Even if they make a super, the price will be insane. I'd buy the highest spec you can afford and sit on it.
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>>107732189
>Is there any chance that an affordable 24 GB Nvidia card will be announced soon?
no
>affordable
forget this word for the next 5 years.
Get the best thing you can afford, get it now. Don't wait for tomorrow or next weeks. The rumors and industry statements on cutting production are already spreading through the world. There is no guarantee on how long the prices will stay as low as they are now. Days? weeks? regardless by the end of this month GPUs could easily double in price.
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>>107732141
>Ignores that time pewds bought 50 nv gpus
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id see no difference if i upgraded my 6600xt. i already get 165fps at max settings in halo mcc
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>>107732189
NVIDIA might completely discontinue the 5070 Ti later this year.
Even if a 24GB Super card happens, it's going to be a 5080 Super 24GB with a base MSRP of $1200~1,400.
There's no reason to sell a cheaper 24GB GDDR7 video card.
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>>107731878
Those AIOs are pretty outdated by their newer revisions. Try finding the Silent Loop 3 or Corsair Nautilus which have quiet stock fans.

https://hwbusters.com/cooling/corsair-rs120-max-fan-review/10/
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>>107732189
njudea is supposedly not supplying VRAM with their GPUs to board partners anymore, so make of that what you will
My guess is they're trying to pull out of the consumer market altogether
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>>107732259
>He still uses 720p
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>>107732189
why do you retards do this to yourselves
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>>107732286
1440p buddy
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I'm thinking of upgrading monitor this year if they go down in price some more. I have a 9060xt 16gb and a r5 7600, is it feasible to upgrade the monitor from 1080p to 4k?
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>>107732260
>MSRP of $1200~1,400.
>24gb DDR7
more like 2400-2800$
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>>107732280
NVIDIA invested too much into PCIe GPU R&D with a lot of valuable IP to completely exit this market; they also have the best talent in this field.
They will make even worse entry-level cards or only sell them as laptop GPUs, and charge more money for the better options.
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>>107732303
you can play any pre 2020 games at 4k
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>>107732303
Maybe if you're content with FSR4-enabled 60 FPS, this benchmark used a 9800X3D.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asrock-radeon-rx-9070-xt-monster-hunter-wilds-edition/29.html
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>>107732260
>$1200~1,400.
its 2000 minimum lmao
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>>107732310
nta but you don't understand the relative market sizes, AI datacenters are here to stay for the next decade at the very least. Trillions in profit can be made here meanwhile a year of consumer market gets Nvidia 10~ billion usd.
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>>107732331
MHW is woke dei slop and not worth playing
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So, i figure both Nvidia and AMD will drop all their GPUs over 12gb
Maybe AMD will release that rumored 9070GRE with 12gb of ram to replace the 9070XT

Hard to predict how affordable 60series cards will be though, maybe 50% more expensive?
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>>107732337
I say 1600 msrp and 2k AIB.
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anons does the "quiet" switch on e.g., asus vidyacard do anything except change the fan curve?
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>>107732344
I do, I've frequently posted NVIDIA's quarterly revenue breakdown.
The future is ASIC, NVIDIA knows they're on a timer with this profiteering.
They're not killing off the development of PCIe GPUs, but many people will get priced out of GeForce cards.
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>>107732364
market just saw RAM double and then triple overnight, any seller worth its goods would want to repeat that with GPUs and they are getting all the reasons to do it. expect the GPU price tag to at least double in near future
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>>107732348
I'm posting the most recently benchmarked GPU data because I'm not a coping faggot, idgaf about the MHW collaborative design.
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>>107732401
benchmarks for neo-marxist propaganda pieces are irrelevant
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>>107732380
The hing here is that it is no longer worth it to develop for consumer, all those expensive degree brains would be much better used figuring out how to gargle AI balls better. Any department that is not working on AI is just a money drain. They might keep a token team to avoid genuine panic but it shouldn't be more than it, juts no point to it.
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>>107732380
we ain't seen nothin' yet, look at the roadmaps for stuff they are working on e.g. Feynman architecture.
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>>107732415
Google can train their latest AI models without a single NVIDIA GPU. The future is already here.
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>>107732408
I think you should go back to staring at the theoretical performance figures of your Radeon card on GPU-Z.
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>>107732435
So they just chose not to?
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>>107732409
>it is no longer worth it to develop for consumer
so imho nvidia was never consumer-first development. the money was always in the pro market first e.g. Quadro (now RTX Pro). we as /consoomers/ get the benefit of sloppy seconds.

atiamd on the other hand is /consoomer/-first and their income has not been sufficient to allow them to compete at the high end with the engineering resources that nvidia has, which i find surprising after amd took on ati, you would think the infusion of some amd brain would give them a serious leg up in the game (and maybe it will, idk).
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>>107732374
its a dual bios switch so if the 1st bios bricks you have a backup. the quiet bios only changes the fanspeed.
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>Reflection free premium
>evolution beyond glare free
is LG putting matte coating on their TV lineup in 2026? is it over?

further rumours point to this being the last hdmi2.1 gen tvs before hdmi2.2 next year 2027? 4k 240hz 2027?!

it's triple over
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>>107732455
Google's not dependent on NVIDIA GPUs to train their AI; they buy NVIDIA GPUs for their Cloud customers.
NVIDIA also revealed they're going to co-develop X86 SoCs with Intel; these consumer-grade GPUs are here to stay.
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>>107732123
its super easy on ebay. you take pictures, list it, and it sells in like a day or two.
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>>107732450
its looking good
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>>107732435
yes and thats a beautiful thing except that none of the crap being used in the datacenters for AI training helps /pcbg/anons locally organize their futanari collections. i'd love to see something come along that is totally disruptive to the vidyacard market, idc who makes it.
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>>107732495
Dumbass completely missed my point.
GPU-Z, the app that lists all the theoretical performance that retards as you obsess over, is maintained by TechPowerUp.
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>>107732469
>so imho nvidia was never consumer-first development
yup, this was the correct way to word it and I do agree. Still at some point they should start to wonder if there is any point in bothering with consumer market and considering their recent policies they have reached that point. Using current RAM shortage as pretense to just rip the bandaid off seems possible. We will see how it plays out when and if 60xx comes out, but i wouldn't hope for any good consumer news from Nvidia.
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>>107732497
My point is NVIDIA isn't going to exit the PCIe GPU market.
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who is buying this shit
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>>107732529
so far a couple of self-proclaimed smart anons from /pcbg/
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>>107732529
I bought a Gibibyte 5080 Gaming oc for $1400 six months ago.
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>>107732529
UE5 slop enjoyers
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>>107732525
>if there is any point in bothering with consumer market
yep with how much money they have rolling in now it's almost an afterthought. maybe even they will spin /consoomer/ goods off to intel with the partnership, i can almost kek thinking about how screwed up that would make things.
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>>107732482
those look like 4chan threads when browsing the catalog
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Are Toshiba's hdd good?
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>>107732317
I'm hoping so

>>107732331
I'm looking at gigabyte M27UP, 160hz 4k with older games and desktop use, but using dual mode to 1080p at 320hz in newer games where 4k is not doable.
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>>107732548
>>107732557
>>107732553
its the SFF model so it has nerfed cooling like a ventus yet it costs as much as the premium ones.
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>>107732573
>it costs as much as the premium ones
anon i hate to be the one to tell you to google some news about vidyacard pricing these days...
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>>107732525
>>107732558
You guys are all missing a key point that NVIDIA has an incentive to make consumer GPUs just to deny those profits to AMD, Intel, and some Chinese companies that are also making data center GPUs.
NVIDIA's last quarterly gaming revenue was higher than AMD's entire client & gaming segment (Ryzen, Threadripper, and Radeon).
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>>107732567
Toshiba was the company that spear-headed the HD-DVD format. What could go wrong!
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>>107732592
TUF & Gaming Trio are same price and way better.
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>>107732595
>AMD's entire client & gaming segment (Ryzen, Threadripper, and Radeon).
I forgot to mention this segment includes console APU revenue.

NVIDIA's workstation PCIe video card revenue isn't even accounted for in this comparison.
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>>107732558
>off to intel
genuinely hilarious clownworld shit but I am not laughing.
If anything that would make things simple, we just touch grass and pray for chinks do something, a miserable end of an era.
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>>107732628
post us some charts with cited sources, anon

>we love us the facts here at /pcbg/, helps to keep the /shills/ in their place
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>>107732645
AMD and NVIDIA are publicly traded companies; they're required to share quarterly financial reports.
https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/nvidia-announces-financial-results-for-third-quarter-fiscal-2026
https://ir.amd.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/1265/amd-reports-third-quarter-2025-financial-results
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>>107732595
in the current market there is no point to it, any R&D effort expended on costumer side no matter the reason is missed hundreds of billions on the AI side, the more brains they can allocate to AI the more they will rake in. At the current prices Nvidia can no longer gate-keep chinks and if chinknesium GPUs are real it is already too late to compete in low/mid segment and high end is the stuff that eats all the R&D time. Wasted effort, massive loss of potential profit.
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>>107732573
everything costs more in small form factor, it's a luxury
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>>107732595
Fighting of pennies is retarded when unlimited money takes the same effort. What would you do?
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>>107732688
It's about not giving away a $4 billion quarterly revenue business to your competitors.
NVIDIA's gaming segment revenue matched AMD's entire data center revenue in the past quarter.
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I threw together a NAS a few years ago and got a Z590 board and a i3-10105T for pretty cheap. Its been fine so far but I was wanting MOAR CORES to speed up encoding so ive been looking for a good deal on an i9-10900 but the price is still kinda high I could probably get a 3900x + mobo for around the same price.

What does /pcbg/ think? Should I keep holding out for a 10900 or is there a better option? There are some ES 10900's going for a reasonable price but thats probably kind of a gamble
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>>107732704
>Fighting of pennies
Thanks for confirming you have no idea what you're talking about.
NVIDIA's gaming segment revenue for the last quarter was worth over 45% of AMD's entire quarterly revenue.
This is why Lisa Su is content with AMD being the second best in the business.
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its like talking to a wall, no wonder he calls /pol/ anyone who doesnt agree wtih him
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>>107732707
that is wholly irrelevant. 4 billion usd is pennies, thinking about them at all is retarded. You have a 4-5 trillion dollar pie right in front of you and each bite is your entire revue for the last decade, time wasted on keeping your little bro away from the cookie jar is time utterly wasted and your losses are in billions. Basically you loose 200+ billions to prevent a chink from getting 4. Financially it doesn't make any sense.
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>>107732736
>that is wholly irrelevant
$4 billion is $4 billion; they're not dumb enough to give that business away to AMD & Intel.
Especially when that business can be synergized to develop better data center GPUs.
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>buy thing from bestbuy
>get discount by haggling with ai live chat
>return thing next day
>they refund me more than i actually paid
infinite money hack
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>>107731861
>Also, will I regret ordering a 5090 directly from Asus's website?
they use fedex aka the shipping service notorious for stealing packages so your luck would be the same as buying straight from nvidia because they use shitex too
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>>107732736
Why are you guys pretending that NVIDIA's GeForce business is bottlenecking the profit potential of their data center segment?
Their data center GPU production bottlenecks are other components like HBMs, sourcing issues related to chip packaging, and their customers' infrastructural needs.
Just typical retards unaware of the realities.
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>>107732189
Im gonna buy 5070 ti 16gb tomorrow.
I fucking give up.
I can always sell the card at 20% below current price for easy sell IF (BIG IF) 5070 ti super 24gb or better card is out
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>>107732683
horey sheets tho, the sheer numbers.

AMD quarterly revenue $9.2 billion
NVIDIA quarterly revenue $57.0 billion

AMD underdog really needs to punch up higher than mid and low end in the /consoomer/ space. Where are they with this newfangled AI stuff anyway, they must have some product in the market for datacenters? IDK much about the AI backend stuff from either side, i know it's more than just the vidyacard players in there.
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>>107732798
>buying RIGHT before ces
you waitfags are retarded. i'm starting to think most of you just wait because you have choice paralysis
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>>107732722
So say theoretically 45%=500 million. Now with those resources used for enterprise, instead of 500 million you could make 2 trillion. What do you think they will do?
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>>107732808
Whats wrong with buying before CES ?
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>>107732798
>Im gonna buy 5070 ti 16gb tomorrow.
enjoy your QC issues
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>>107732808
there is nothing GPU being announced except for price hikes
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>>107732767
until they nail you for it and /ban/ you
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>>107732827
AMD is going to come swinging in with the 9080xt and 9850x3d while nvidia and intel are being napping boomers with their heads up the government.
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>>107732827
retard
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>>107732182
Limit power usage to 400 Watts and undervolt a bit
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>>107732838
>9080xt
Not a thing
>9850x3d
500mhz higher boost clock for $200 lol
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>>107732822
Im not gonna buy the super duper ultra OC RGB tentacle spider fan version of 5070ti. I learn my lesson with that version of card
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>>107732815
>So say theoretically
I accept your concession.
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>>107732753
not how it works, here is a more detailed explanation so you can understand, Nvidia's revenue from gaming segment in 2024 was 10 billion.
Nvidia is employing R&D teams who are making the consumer GPUs and entire departments of workers who are stuck dealing with consumer regulations/manufacturers and other irrelevant garbage, these same extremely qualified teams can be used to aid in AI R&D.
The same amount of effort they are using for consumer market will get them 200-300 billion in the AI segment over the next 5 years. By just allocating these consumer teams that would otherwise make them 30~ billion or less to AI they will instantly multiply the profits by x10. Which is why it doesn't make any sense for them to keep consumer R&D up at all. Consumer market is a tiny fucking droplet that takes colossal amount of effort for absolutely no output.
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>>107732838
I use my PC for work
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>>107732849
LOL
You are a fucking idiot
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>>107732849
imagine being this braindead
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>>107732852
it can run 9800mt/s on ram. also its definitely a thing they just scale up the CUs and keep the same gddr6. nvidia is screwed with gddr6x and gddr7.
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>>107732849
i pray to god they finally release reflex 2
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>>107732863
"work" in 2026 is using the cloud. if you have on site machine your boss hates you and you are paying for your own hardware not him LMAO
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>>107732862
Except NVIDIA's data center revenue isn't bottlenecked by their commitment to GeForce & other PCIe GPU development as explained in >>107732789
There are other component shortages, and their customers are hoarding GPUs they can't even power on.
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>>107732879
>boss
I am my own boss. Also i own a house and a car. The only thing i dont have is wife but who needs one lol
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>>107732838
see you *almost* made sense there then you went off the rails at the end.

lets hope the 9080XT realizes as a good card for amds sake. ofc nvidia got blasted by some for not making enough of a performance leap from 40xx to 50xx, so the jury is out on the 60xx series. Maybe it will be weak-ass and amd can get some more market share. maybe it will put amd

>one step behind again
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>>107732798
Make an order today and you will not regret it. The GPU prices will go up this is inevitable and guaranteed, even if a new hotter GPU comes out you can just sell you 5070ti most likely at a profit.
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weirdo
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Holy fuck your thread is deleted because of blatan fanboyism. Fuck off already shill
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>>107732872
>it can run 9800mt/s on ram
Matters even less on the x3d cpus.
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How realistic is it that nvidia is deliberately sabotaging the x86 PC so they can hawk their new ARM computer they were planning on releasing this holiday season?
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>>107732883
also irrelevant. 500+ datacenters a year, each year for the next 5 years, hardware cycles. The more of that market they can secure the better they will be in the long term, and 1% here makes more of a splash than the entire consumer segment x2.
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I regret getting a 27" monitor, the thing is so fucking big it's like I'm sitting in front of a tv. maybe my desk is just not deep enough. I didnt consider at all what a change going to 15.6 to 27 inch would be, I just bought the recommended budget 1440p monitor. considering buying something smaller and pawning this one off. there's a 24.5" 1440p aoc monitor I might just get that. I just want a cozy set up like pic rel but at higher resolutions
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>>107732892
You should be able to get some good ones for her kidneys.
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>>107732923
It would make sense as to why Steams making a push for arm support. Maybe they know something we don't know yet.
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My craptop is dying so I decided to make a build with a 5700x which seems super cheap at 110 euros around here. Now wondering whether to get a 9600xt or 5060 ti. 5060ti is a bit better for gaming and slopgen but it's 60 euros more expensive. I remember reading Nvidia has overhead issues with older CPUs, is that still the case? I guess the performance would be equalized in that case
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>>107732929
Its little too big yeah but theres nothing between 24 and 27 inch
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>>107732929
so then return it and get something better.
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>>107732929
i went from 22 to 24 but mostly because i wanted to compensate the (((upgrade))) from 16:10 22 to 16:9 24
ideally i would like to go to 27 too but im not sure i dont feel like i need it yet
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>>107732929
You are sitting too close to your monitor.
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>>107732938
>9600xt or 5060 ti

from the sticky:
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070

if looking at 5060ti what are comparable prices for the 9070 and 5070 in your part of /yoorop/?
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>>107732859
>$9999 - NVIDIA RTX PRO™ 6000 Blackwell Workstation
>$2000 - RTX 5090
They use the same parts with the Pro using maybe an extra $150 for 5x profit. That isn't even enterprise pricing, just professional. NVIDIA does not care about your pennies.
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Why anyone loves any of the these companies (particularly AMD) is beyond me
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>>107732963
I made my case. The only thing left is to wait and see how it will play out.
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>>107732938
overhead issues apply to the whole gen really but the biggest issue is that the 5060ti is being a 8x lanes gpu
if you want current gen nvidia the lowest you should go is 5070
also the op is retarded
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>>107732968
That's a PCIe card, thanks for proving my point.
NVIDIA's not killing off the development of PCIe GPUs.
The cards will become more cost-prohibitive for sure.
But that's due to component sourcing issues, not trying to deliberately shut down the gaming and PCIe GPU business.
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anyway my /pcbg/faganons who shat up the board with talk of market share and other such faggotry, CES coming soon.
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>>107732990
So you would continue make 2k cards when you could sell them for 10k. Damn, good luck at the next beard meeting ex CEO.
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>>107732968
>use the same parts
not quite. the Pro cards are binned to be the best parts. /consoomer/ parts are then binned from the leftovers for everything else.
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>>107732996
>where artificial intelligence is headed
>focus heavily on data centers
>physical AI
>autonomous technology
>Nvidia's AI strategy
>speed up AI systems implementation
welp it is a wrap
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>>107732976
i hate them all equally

>but i need their stuff for my /pcbg/
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>>107732996
>ai here, ai there x333
yeah nice comfrerence
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>>107733020
>lose market share
>game devs no longer colab with you
>lose access to basically free research

If njudea loses the games market they do lose a lot of third party rnd.
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>>107732913
>Matters even less on the x3d cpus.
this is what retards say to justify using crappy 5600cl40 ram on their platform.
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>>107733027
there are more players than just nvidia tho.
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>>107733020
Retards like you think there's infinite demand for those PCIe workstation cards (they scale poorly without NVLink) and data center GPUs don't have component or infrastructural bottlenecks.
They will continue to sell GeForce PCIe cards and develop GeForce 3D video game rendering features because DLSS reduces the overhead of running the GeForce Now business.
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If Nvidia doesn't have some killer app to announce then the bubble is popping immediately.
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>>107733026
Wow 5 percent in performance for 8k. Yea just roll the entire die into workstation and charge the same. They would still sell so fast no one could stock them. Or better yet stop wasting money producing them and make even more without Mc nerd calling tech support because he was too stupid to plug in a pcie device. Random dumbass AI company: yea I'll take 40 percent of your next years product at a premium. What are you doing with it? Nothing just letting it sit their under a tarp for a few years. That's the level of don't give a shit money these buyer have. You have pennies they have a magic money printing machine.
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>>107732976
the moment chinks release anything that doesn't explode or is a literal silicone casino I will build an entire Mao Zedong PC, paint it red and have it blast "Red Sun in the Sky" on every reboot.
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>>107733046
An x3d cpu literally doesn't care. I have a 5700x3d and whether I have the xmp profile enabled or not doesn't make any difference.
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>>107732929
meanwhile, after 10 years of 27", I'm starting to find it too small for immersion
if only there were 29-30" monitors, now that would be nice
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>>107733076
>the bubble is popping immediately
complete bullshit, anon, plz engage brain before posting. nvidia doesn't need an app, all they need is customers.
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>>107733076
They know and they will announce one. It doesn't need to be real, Durga Rupiascammy, senior investment manager at Shekelberg partners will say it's a great opportunity anyways. Elon's been doing this for 15 years
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>>107733076
Unfortunately ai isn't a bubble, it is a government sponsored scam. It's more of an iron lung.
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>>107733076
you wish and I wish but that is not the case
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>>107733088
you seem to be babbling about something you have no fundamental knowledge of. Quadro or RTX Pro cards don't target the same performance metrics that the /consoomer/ cards do and typically they suck for gaming because the drivers are optimized for stability. they aren't even programmed the same, the pro level cards are about precision and not frame rates.
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I HATE THE AI ANTICHRIST
I HATE THE AI ANTICHRIST
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>>107733140
The fastest gayming GPU is the RTX 6000 Blackwell
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I won't be buying anything until I can get a card 10% better than a 4090 for under $1000
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Funfact: nvidia will pay you half of your RTX 6000 cost so it's the same price as a 5090.
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>>107732929
>I regret getting a 27" monitor
Lol

lmao

I use a 41.5" monitor at my desk with a 27" monitor as the secondary.
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and I'm considering going 42" OLED
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>>107733110
>>107733115
>>107733117
>>107733122
Nvidia has trillions of dollars and their software still looks like last gen. unless they announce some ground breaking next gen shit nobody is taking them seriously again because they are currently charging $5000 to render last gen d3d12 stuff.
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>>107732976
these companies make people a lot of money
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>>107733192
I think they wanted "neural rendering" to become a thing, but it's been a year and I haven't heard shit about it.
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>>107733192
>nobody is taking them seriously
kek no matter what you /shill/ the truth will always set anons free

>recommend keeping stock in amd, nvidia, and intel
>i love tech, /pcbg/, don't you?
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>>107733189
I have refused to support LGs kikery.

They make 42" RGBW OLED, and for a decade+ they've refused to invest into true RGB stripe because it's not bright enough for large format TV panels.

So now that TCL (china) is starting to do printed RGB OLED at ~27-45" LG has started doing their new 27" RGB strip tandem OLED, but they still refuse to make it larger than 27" so it doesn't compete with their RGBW TV sales (LG C5 42" and similar).

RGBW is shit for PC use because of text fringing.

I'm personally not going to reward LG by buying one of their TV panels with shitty PC text clarity and i'll just have to wait for Asus/Dell (or simiilar) to start buying those new TCL RGB OLED panels. Hopefully later this year, or early next year.
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>>107733140
>cite precedence
>babbling
You are the type that will post here a year later in disbelief because the whole thing blew up. Everyone is telling you the fuse it lit. Stand on the bomb if you chose.
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How long until people start raiding datacenters for gpus and ram? Their security can't be that good.
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>>107733224
well i mean i've been posting here since before /g/ existed so i imagine i'll still be posting here next year.

>the whole thing blew up
nigga this has been blowing up since Ronnie Ray-Gun gave capitalism the greenlight to fuck everyone and everything in the 80s. the old bastard sure made tech life good for me, how 'bout you?

>i love it when the facts trip up the shitposters and they resort to ad hominem attacks when their argument gets derailed
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Ill wait. Waitfags will be the winners in the end. Resist temptation.
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>>107731490
I don't need a card much more powerful dan 1080TI, I found one from a mining rig for 125 euro, should I buy it or something else
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>>107733140
The other anon pointed out the workstation cards are literally faster for gayming but the idea that workstation cards are slow for gayming hasn't been true for a *long* time.
After RTX 2000, Nvidia wholly merged the architectures of gaming and workstation/ML and both share the exact same dies.

It's why there is all the RT and AI junk in the first place. It was meant to accelerate workstation loads and Nvidia introducing RT and features like DLSS for gayming was just to take advantage of silicon thay would otherwise be wasted on pure raster workloads.

"Optimization" differences are more just an ungimping. Workstation aren't specifically optimized for certain workloads they are just allowed to perform to their fullest, unlike gayming GPUs
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Is now the best time to buy a B580? I know nvidia GPUs are going to go through the roof soon but what about intel?
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>>107733280
Disatvantages will be raytracing (obviously) and mesh shading. Otherwise a fine GPU. Check temps for if you need to redo thermal paste
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>>107733302
>GPUs are going to go through the roof
all GPUs because of RAM pricing unfortunately.
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>>107733302
Unless Intel cards don't use ram then they'll be going up as well
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>>107733275
I had already been waiting since 2018.
I didn't have much wait left in me to begin with, my original plan was to upgrade in mid 2026 or early 2027, and as of November 2025 that plan was already falling to shit. By early December, I decided to panic buy. I've already "saved" ~$500 on my RAM/SSD that I purchased.
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i need help with crashes on a newly built pc
recently i've been having lots of kernel panics that seem to be RAM related
now, i now that when i first booted the pć i built, i didn't know the motherboard had to "configure" the ram when it turns on, so i thought i had done something wrong during the build and turned it off midway through it. i suspect the reason for the crashes are either this, or me running EXPO, however it weirds me out because i have had this pc for almost 3 months and only recently this crash behavior started.
Any help on how to fix this?
my pc is:
gigabyte b850m dsh3 mobo
ryzen 5 9600x cpu
lexar thor 2x16gb ddr5 c32 ram
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After learning that Sam Altman has always been a petty scam artist the whole ai thing starts to make sense now.
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>>107733302
>B580
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>>107733357
what memtests have you run?
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Bros, I think I'll have to get a job at a Carl's Jr...
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panic buying always works and there are never any downsides
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>>107733369
>rdna2 has the best 1% lows
based
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>>107733275
>decided to stop waiting last year
>entire rig i bought is already near 500 bucks more expensive because of ram and m2 drives alone
>gpu i bought this year is supposed to go up a couple hundred this year as well
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>>107733374
i haven't... to be honest i don't know what a memtest is...
i'm new to this (which is how i didn't know about the first boot memory thing)
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now is coming the flood of useless shitposts to bump up the thread count ...

>all is well
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>>107733414
Chill grandpa
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>>107733414
yes
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>>107731490
Anyone have a suprim liquid GPU? Is it quiet at 30% speed and can you adjust the pump speed?
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>>107733554
See >>107732172
> The Suprim generally ramps the pump up along with the fan curve, so setting a custom fan curve can help reduce the pump noise at lower power levels.
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>>107733410
is your cl32 memory 6400 perhaps?
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theres no killer game worth upgrading for
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>>107733593
its 6000 with expo. otherwise its 4800 (which i made me mad when i found out, since their advertise it as 6000)
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>>107733628
>which i made me mad when i found out, since their advertise it as 6000
That's literally all ram
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>>107733628
You can try to manually set your timings/frequency.

6000Mhz
CL32-36-36-96 (final number doesn't help with DDR5 AMD, so don't bother trying to lower this).
VDD 1.38V
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>>107733658
your build is really good. theres no game worth upgrading for
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>>107733641
again, i'm new to this
>>107733657
i assume i do this on bios?
i was also searching on youtube and a couple videos recommended using a screw to short two pins to reset the ram or something?
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Saars, how do I do the needful?
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>>107733620
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3513350/Wuthering_Waves/
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>>107733620
I'm hoping Nioh 3 turns out to be alright, and requirements are pretty high most likely because Japan cannot be persuaded to optimize PC ports ever
otherwise yeah, you're right
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>>107733701
That's to clear cmos of the board. Easier way to do it is locate the cmos battery on the board and pull it out for 30 secs. It will reset bios to default.
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>>107733701
larping to bump the thread count or just extremely stoopid

>just google it
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is there a steam curator then flags any UE5 game? I need to avoid all of them after how badly oblivion ran
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Is it a good idea to get Acer Nitro KG3 or KG273 W3bip monitor for $110 USD? It has 0.5ms, FHD IPS with 240hz at 1440p.
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>>107733275
since 2020 here and i have $1000 to spare. I think i had enough. I can always sell this card at reduced price so i dont lose that much if theres a new card appear
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>>107733789
1080p's pretty blurry at 27" but i guess you'd be fine if you can haggle the price down
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>>107733783
>>107733783
>>107733783



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