gtk and qt

>>107743191
lucid and motif

>>107743282
retard

>>107743191
xcb
>>107743289
nigger

>>107743191
gnome2

>>107743191
There is not equivalent
Linux has 100 different toolkits and all of them are either 1980's flatshit or 2010's flatshit
Just use windows XP if you want a consistent UI

tk

ncurses

>>107743191
There isn't one.
Linux is not a stable OS.

>>107743657
>>107743548
>>107743282
>>107743191

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Athena_Widgets
>In a talk for USENIX, X pioneer Jim Gettys remarked that although Athena widgets were "ugly", they were often used in the period of X history that he describes as the "GUI wars", as a safe alternative to the competing Motif and Open Look toolkits.[2]

>>107743191
all the stdlibs and sys/
its retarded to have the entire bible's equivalent of includes in a single header file, split it up jeet

>>107743191
wine and mingw https://man.archlinux.org/man/winegcc.1.en

>Windows going to shit
>Linux still a mess without a consistent interface
It's over isn't it?

Linux just need a strong leader to impose standards

>>107743191
Linux is an obsolete console OS, it has no GUI.

>>107743924
>button radius is not the same, this is literally unlivable!

>>107743950
>linux
>standards
lol, pick one

we will never have a new competitor OS because nobody cares enough anymore

windows will be like android and linux will forever keep rolling in it's gtk/qt feces

>>107743983
white people look at your incoherent mishmash and think it's a cheap chinese bootleg of windows

>>107743289
>>107743191
it's motif. it even has the funny loop with switch statements. it's the same

>>107744015
I'm sure that's true

>>107743191
Nothing. Everything is sluggish and looks like ass.

>>107743191
your mom

Everyone thinks they want linux, but then they try it and immediately want to turn it into windows/mac instead of just going the fuck back. Total Indian/immigrant behavior. That's how we end up with gay shit like wayland and everything rewritten in rust.

>>107744323
Torvalds himself complains about the awful fragmentation
It's you who has to go back, retarded indian

>>107743191
None
The only way to achieve that is centralization, something troonix users hate despite their primary way to install software being 100% centralized

This is why linux isnt more widespread.

>>107744339
Torvalds handed the kernel over to a tranny. His opinion doesn't matter anymore.

linux is kernel, there is no default GUI toolkit
ncurses?

>>107743950
We have Bassi.

linux will never, ever

>>107743950
this man doesn't understand freedom

>>107744369
I can grab the source code on Github or elsewhere and compile it. Which I do many times. If you really want to critique centralization critique the people on Mastodon who act like they can have both privacy/freedom and a welfare state without any trade offs.

>>107743675
motif ultimately won this , and was then superseded by gtk2 ect.

>>107744442
You can have freedom on top of a less free foundation, that's how real life works
Linux is a wild west and a total mess because of that
It's great that you can fiddle around with every part of your system, but because it's so easy to do on Linux, you end up with a desktop that looks cheap and inconsistent
But I know what your desktop looks like and you obviously don't care about consistency like 99% of other people do

>>107744442
>freedom
your hardware is not free by any means whatsoever

>inb4 it's as free as possible
if you wanted to be as free as possible you would make your own hardware
instead you strike for a healthy balance
why not have balance with a centralized and free OS?

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>>107744015
is the cheap chinese knockoff in the room with us right now sar?

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>>107743657
>windows
>stable

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>>107744675
not my problem

>>107743191
GTK was an attempt at that. Since it became a GNOME thing there isn't one currently.

>>107743191
FOX toolkit.
http://fox-toolkit.org/
Take Xfe as an example of software that uses it, it just werks in doesn't rape your RAM.
http://roland65.free.fr/xfe/

>>107744706
Stable in the sense of unchanging ABI/API.
Win32 was created a billion years ago and it still exists and programs compiled with it 20 years ago still run on modern windows with no issues.

>>107743191

i have not head of anyone who writes postscript

>>107744841
>20 years ago
30 years ago in many cases.
Many software made for Windows 95 still run fine in Windows 11 25H2.
Meanwhile I had problems trying to make 8 year old software run on Linux
>binaries don't work, too outdated
>packages don't install, too outdated
>try to build from source
>fall into dependency hell
>give up

>>107743191
win32(wine)

>>107744706
To be fair, that password was for network logon. It was not intended to keep the local machine secure.

>>107744706
you could simply ctrl+alt+del, enter Administrator in the login prompt and a blank password and press enter on Windows XP.