>OLED has perfect bl-ACKFlip the light switch and some cheap VA will have deeper blacks than an OLED.
>>107750241OLED isn't considered to have good blacks because the pixels turn off... retard.Fucktards posting backlight monitor color comparison and counting in OLED is crazy.
>>107750241Said nobody
>>107750263read the graph retard
>>107750294https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/the-oled-black-depth-lie-when-panel-type-and-coating-matters
>>107750263This is about the screen's reflectivity of ambient light, which can reduce contrast more than a backlight. QD OLED is notoriously bad at this, it glows dark purple in ambient light, negating the benefits of OLED
>>107750310Then turn off the light, turbotard?
lol
>>107750241>poorfag cope
>>107750241Holy cope
>>107750326>just turn off your lights when you're awake!>calls others turbotards
>>107750564>unless you live in a pitch black cave500 lux is an average office environment
>>107750241Perfect blacks dont exist
>>107750689
i'm not buying a qd oled againthis shit is too fucking fragileone scratch and your monitor is fucked forever
>>107750689I don't think there's such a thing as good blacks to begin with
>>107751101gorilla hands typed this
>>107751224i bought it 2 months ago and i was nannying iti don't even fucking know how it got scratched, there was no event connected to itqd oled and glossy does look better but if you're a fucking human it's going to get scratched and that can ruin a screen and you'll never look at it the same way again
The biggest problem with OLED is burn-in, actually
>>107752911nah
>>107750241meanwhile, on plasma and crt the value is 0.01 at 500lux.
>>107752911saaar burn in do not exist anymore it is beauitfal for gorgious lookslike bueautifal cow ass
>>107750241>Buy gayled monitor >Entire image has this weird chromatic aberration effect>"Oh yea that's just how oleds are, and there's no fixing it. Oh of course not a single customer or reviewer on the entire planet notices or even warns you about it before purchase. It's a feature!"I hate gayled faggots so muchAnd no it's not just text you fucking lying faggots, literally every gayled monitor has innate chromatic aberration on the entire screen because of the pixel layoutIf IPS monitors ever get phased (which they will eventually because how else will you sell inferior new tech) I'll probably just quit using a pc altogether
All monitor tech sucks in some way.
>>107750241Glad to see the mentally disabled population is still the loudest
>>107752954It'[s much less of a problem since they moved from Nitrogen with the C1
>>107756097Mrmmm yes ssaaarr!
>>107750241>WOLED glossy>lowest of them allSUCK. MY. DICK.
>>107752911>>107752954>>107756097>>107756896True, it's really not an issue anymore.>>107640560>you sweet summer child. still no burn in on pic related used exclusively as a computer monitor
>>107756946glossy wins again
>>107756955i wanting to fuck cow ass sar
>>107756974>anyone believing what a pajeet says
>>107756974you do you buddy
>>107750241>lower is better
>>107756896My 3 year old ips is starting to look like this I use it every day though lol
>>107757026mrmm yess very true sarthats why i buyeing LG oled !
>>107756974>>107757055So pajeets use IPS/VA?
>>107750326>just live in a cave
>>107756955OLED burn-in will always be an issue
>burn-in is so bad, in 5 years there's might be inconsistent colors
>>107758366I hate ips glow like you wouldn't believe.
>>107758366anon... I don't think you have an OLED
>>107758544the point is the IPS bleed is visually way worse than any potential OLED burn-in (even if such thing existed)
>>107750241>not a single true oled panelRetard...
>>107750299You're mentally retarded.>b-but the graph saysYour fucking graph literally proves that W-OLED glossy is the best of all those. Jesus christ you're a retarded cultist. Your fucking monitor isn't your tribe, goon.
>>107758366This is what my Samsung Quantum Dot VA panel looks like after ~5 years of use. People screeching at me that OLED might burn in in 5 years makes me lol. I literally do not fucking care, I am never buying a backlight again. And for some reason, this makes goobers /g/ unreasonably MAD. Watch how many seething salty grape pants-pissing "enjoy your ____" replies this post gets.
>>107758736th graph proves that there are no perfect-black OLEDs and some cheap VA can be just as good, cope and seethe
>>107758778>and some cheap VA can be just as goodBut your graphs proofs you wrong that nothing is better than WOLED.
>>107758742This is what all LCD panels look like on day one retard, that's not a burn-in
>>107759277Correct, they're just trash.
>>107750241>burn in >flickering raping your eyes>text fringing only apparently now solved with 5th gen technology>still expensivefuck OLED.
>>107758778QD-OLED is on like gen 4 now
>>107750241>I bought a pg27udcmbrehs...
>>107760223that's >>107760163 and it's gen 4.
>>107756955mine's on 24200 hoursconsoomers btfo
>>107760163gen 5 as of today (finally with actual RGB layout)
>>107760279but I just bought :(((
>>107750303>https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/the-oled-black-depth-lie-when-panel-type-and-coating-mattersNobody said that OLED had perfect blacks. It is not possible at all for any emitting display technology. Only brainlet videophiles with no understanding of physics fall for the lie.
>>107760244the new gen with true rgb and better coating are going to deathmog it anon...
>>107750689Correct in the absolute sense. There's no material that can absorb all visible light. The material just has to absorb enough across the visual spectrum that the rods and cones in your eye cannot perceive it.
>>107750689explain Thomas Sowell then
>>107760319Black holes are pretty black though.
>>107758246Only for retards who are too poor to upgrade every few years.
>>107760403Gravity isn't "a material".
am I fucked? probably sun damage. just found out while playing FO4 today. LG C1. started pixel cleaning, I hope it will fix it
>>107761429>playing FO4Yeah, you're fucked.
>>107761429I think you have giant ass cross behind your back
Can someone tell me how am I suppose to check the burn in? What should I look for?
>>107761429update: pixel cleaning fixed it
>>107760989*every few months
>>107750241use case for blacker blacks?
>>107756955>>107763404lol
>>107761760https://screenburn.in/screen-burn-in-test/If you had any you'd know.
>>107763756It seems 8k hours is too small for burn-in problems. Good to know.
>>107750263People also say this shit about CRT's and it's bullshit. The area the CRT doesn't light up IS NOT FUCKING BLACK IT'S GREY. So I dunno.
>>107764083CRTs were terrible under light. Everything was pretty washed up.
>>107750689Being dead doesn't equal not existing.
>>107764115Yet you'll see everyone say they have perfect blacks and "technically infinite contrast ratio". Have they ever looked at one?
>>107750241I just got a mini-led TV. Seemed close enough to OLED without the disadvantages of OLED.
>>107764161Depends on the conditions I guess. OLEDs can't be used under heavy sunlight too. It's way too dim.
>>107764207No, a CRT literally doesn't display black at all because it's inherent to their design. Any unlit area of the screen is grey, simple as is.
>>107757503I already do, what now?
>>107763422Better contrast leads to more vivid colors
>>107760279>>107760299Did any 4k 240-360hz 5th gens get announced? I only saw a lmao-ultrawide panel. I think I still might pick up a 4th gen QD-oled on sale.
do you retards unironically game with the lights on?
>>107750697Not perfect.
>>107761760youll know when you get it because its extremely noticeable. if you turn brightness up or touch any of the base settings it will happen within 1 year, probably less than 9 even. if you dont it will take a couple. probably exactly the amount of time given for the RMA period. if you attempt to RMA they will do all sorts of gymnastics to avoid sending you anything and then they will try to send you used panelsoled isnt worth it at all. you pay luxury price for a minorly improved image which you get the privilege of needing to baby the panel. including a pixel refresh every hour or two. its incredibly retarded. but if you spend money frivolously like an indian you will love it and cope post about it in these obvious lg shill threads
>>107764797its like 13k hours at peak brightness on gen2 qd-oleds to get significant burn in, and that's with 24/7 worst case scenario I don't even own an oled, but you're literally just making up shit because you're a coping.poorfag
>>107765002it took me about 6 months to get massive burn in on the alienware 34 inch oledyou are literally brown and believe tech youtubers paid to advertise. you can google burn in for any model.>dude generation poo poo pee pee fixed burn inlol. you believe marketing talk? you are 10 years old or an indian
>>107764686Who has just on/off lights anyways these days or a single point? All my lighting is controllable.
>>107765098Sure ok dude
>>107752911>The biggest problem with OLED is burn-in>>107758742>might burn in in 5 years>>107760989>upgrade every few years>>107763404>*every few months>>107764797>pixel refresh every hour or twoI like how you guys keep making it sillier and blowing it way out of proportion
>>107750241>amerianimalIt's all so tiresome
>>107750241>bl-ACKYou alright there, bud
>>107764083Its the phosphor coating. Some CRTs had really bright phosphor coatings, others were a bit better. CRTs weren't great in bright conditions, but in the dark they were excellent. You win some you lose some. I think CRTs were excellent for their time. Calibrated properly, they can put any LCD monitor to shame.
>>107764188Congratulations, you discovered the grift.
>>107766507>Congratulations, you discovered the cope
>>107766498You can't avoid secondary electrons (released by the impact against the screen), NVD tubes try to solve that but nobody would pay 100k for a CRT using that kind of tech.
>>107766507Most tvs were lcd ones, oleds were the pricier alternatives. Burn ins and pixer refreshes sounded weird
>>107766666HOLY CHECKED and wasted digits fuck you nigger
>>107766666shit fucking post
>>107766673>>107766682¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>107766666give the digits back ‘jeetmal
>>107766689no can do, kemosabe
>>107764797>they will do all sorts of gymnastics to avoid sending you anything and then they will try to send you usedLike with anything else.
>>107766666Don't forget compensation cyclesimagins pausing whatever you're doing because your monitor has to run a mandatory maintenance
>>107750689I consider the Cosmic Microwave Background an acceptable level of dimness.
>>107758742oled will always degrade, even if you do not see burn-in , they get dimmer over time, and usually the blue degrades faster than the other colors on typical oled panels , requiring recalibration, (only qd-oleds are immune from this.) which imo is the bigger problem. i frankly cannot wait for quantum nanorod emissive displays, will finally replace this degrading pos technology and the hotdog water that is lcd once and for all.
>>107766600so much has changed since crts were last made that it might not really be a problem anymore, stuff like the quantum dots used on samsungs qd-oled and va panels could be used to replace or enchance the phosphors , the mask would also likely be quite different, stuff that wasnt possible 25 years ago is readily available today and could be added with a relatively minimal effort, the bigger problem is the xrays.
I use a 10 year old 29inch matte ips 21:9 display for office and gayming and i have zero issues with it. Black is more of a very dark grey. But it is fast, colors look good, no dead pixels, no ghosting. I can stand 360° behind the display and still see the image. And you tell me i need more? Talk me out of buying a bigger 34´ 2k 100hz ultrawide ips display then.
MicroLED will replace OLED soon.
>>107770029AI will find a way to gobble that up too.
>>107770029lets wait another 10 years with ours 1024×768 25 year old lcds
>>107769318>Talk me out of buying a bigger 34´ 2k 100hz ultrawide ips display thenWell, it seem to have pretty dated specs, but at least it will be cheap.>>107769318>fast, colors look good, no dead pixels, no ghosting. I can stand 360° behind the display and still see the imageOLEDs gonna be way better in every aspect you mentioned, but they start from $600
>>107760299Same, I got a AW2725DF, 360hz 1440
>>107756896Lmao imagine shelling out even $1 for this slop.
>>107761026gravity is the by-product of "material", without material it cannot exist
>>107760163qd oled gave me insane eye strain, i actually had that exact same monitor in your pic. i had to turn it off after 3 hours of use and just returned it back the next day. it was the worst feeling.
>>107770531ummm its worth every penny to support green tech. oled panels are green + low emissions and thats why they push it so hard. i am literally making the planet better by paying 800 dollars (literally subsidized cost from multiple governments btw) for a barely noticable picture improvement over ips.and you know what... paying for a new one every 3 years is worth it because it just keeps getting BETTER
>>107770945true but the absorption of light is because of a different phenomenon
>>107770956>Why do my eyes hurt?>You've never used them before.
>>107770990>barely noticableNo IPSlop glow is a big improvement.
>>107772265i dont think ips glow is noticeable. but you will notice color aberration and the inevitable burn in on oled. the most noticeable thing about oled is the aberration on text.it wasnt like i was looking for burn in when it happened. i literally didnt think it could happen. then suddenly when something is moving across screen i can see the colors are fucked up in the shape of my taskbar. very nice product
>>107770029QDEL/NanoLED
>>107772320Not gonna waste my money on that, I'm waiting for picoLED
>>107769239>they get dimmer over timeCompared to peak brightness. The TVs don't operate at the actual hypothetical peak brightness even at the programmed peak brightness. That's what the conditioning is for, it levels out the brightness by wearing all the cells. And tandem OLEDs basically make it a non-factor. They achieve the same brightness at significantly less power and the wear is disproportionately low, since power-to-brightness is a non-linear curve. As for the "haze" or uneven levels, even LCDs suffer from that because the backlighting is a bunch of LEDs.
>>107756946My LG C5 is so black if you have a blank screensaver it looks like the tv is off. No purple tint or anything even with the lights on. It's pretty incredible.
>>107750689Your mom's pussy.
>>107773829purple blacks is only an issue with some QD-OLED panels
>>107773690depends on the model, if the display never goes above 400nits , then what you say is true, but if your hitting 800-1000 regularly and the display is not heatsinked sufficiently , it will lose brightness, they have improved their ability to compensate over time by predicting the degradation and upping the voltage, but it is an inevitable fate of all oleds.
>>107756967Where do they have an industrial structure right next to a church?I'm assuming ex Soviet.
>>107750241I feel like I bought the best-performing OLED in the world right before all this jank flooded the market. The best BFGD when Nvidia was most committed to gaming.https://youtu.be/L3oqktdx2a8
>>107773829Well it's technically just a bunch of LEDs, so yeah.
>>107773969We have much better OLEDs now. Like even on the cheap end.
>>107774053Not even one example?
>>107773969the 34 inch alienware was what i had when i got burn in within 6 monthswhatever you do, dont touch any of the panel settings like brightness and dont use ULMB my guess is having messed with those it increased the burn in speed. but maybe just do whatever because its going to burn in anyway
>>107750241>got an oled>pic relatedhow fucked am I? I haven't taken off the protective film yet, I dare not find out if this shit is on the plastic, or on the very, very veeeery fragile QD-OLED pixels.
>>107774129Yes I got burn-in in the first year, before I realized you really do need to baby OLED displays. Thankfully it's minor (lower-right corner taskbar clock, only visible on a white background). I wised up and the problem hasn't gotten worse in 5 years.
>>107774146Check.>QD-OLEDsDon't they use glass? Damn LG WOLEDs at least use glass.
>>107774221>Don't they use glass?they don't use shit, not even a polarizer.They are so fragile that using a microfiber with normal water will scratch them due to minerals in the water.
>>107774367>They are so fragile that using a microfiber with normal water will scratch them due to minerals in the water.Why would someone buy that?
>>107775109Most don't know.The others that do know, also know about the WOLED downsides.
>>107750241*laughs in woled*
>>107775125>also know about the WOLED downsides.Only thing I can think of is color gamut? Maybe text fringing if you don't know how to use custom sub-pixel layout text anti-aliasing.Otherwise QD-OLEDs have worse blacks, burn-in quicker and aren't as bright in HDR. Both suck compared to RGB (non QD) OLED though, which will be the new standard soon.
>>107775255>Only thing I can think of is color gamut?gray banding.
>>107775388>gray banding.More a lottery then anything. https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/107284014/#q107287169https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/107284014/#q107287225https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/107284014/#q107287235
>>107775539>I'm sure to get lucky>bro I love lottery
>>107764797>luxury priceAnon...
>>107775585>goy what do you need 20$ its only 10$ help this oled owner is trying to steal my last 5$
>>107774146rma that shit
Which panels the best if I want something for HDR gaming? Would have to be 27" 1440p, don't care about refresh rate or pixel/text rendering as I have other monitors for that. The scratch resistance or lack of it on QD-OLED spooked me a bit I know I'll scratch it instantly given my OCD and monitor cleanliness.
>>107756974I use OLED. My OLED was burned in much worse than this despite barely using it just because it got left on. I recalibrated it and it disappeared. It's amazing to me that people are worried. This thing is used to. More than the burn in what's annoying is the nigger style fire alarm beeping it does reminding me to turn it off. Considering all the OLED seething I guess it was worth it for the company to annoy their customers into not returning their tv even if you should have above room temp iq if you're going to game
