No more rtx 6000, no more dedicated gpus, Nvidia will completely exit the consumer market just like crucial. One single datacenter dedicated to GAY I bringsmore than revenue than 100.000 regular consumers.
>>107751931china will save us. if anything this will accelerate it
>>107751931Just received my 5090 for 2.3k euros. The writing was on the wall. And if the prices go up I will sell it for profit, just like I did for my 32 gig ddr4 kit and the Samsung nvme I got for 79 euros few months ago (sold it for 129 last week)
>>107751931
the future amd retards wanted is here.good job on not pressuring amd into making more usable gpus, ffs, a laptop 3060 beats the best amd toy gpu on most of my work tasks...
>>107751931haven't needed a dedicated gpu ever since i stopped gayming.
>>107751968I want to punch is soi C u C k face so bad
>>107752013Controlled opposition. Amd was never a serious player in the gpu market (maybe when they released HD 4-5000 series to combat Nvidia but they are just shit for the last 10-15 years). Ps the ceos are literally cousins
>>107751931You'll buy anyway, at any price, timmy.
>>107752013>OH MY GOD I'LL HAVE TO PLAY MY BING BING WAHOO AT THE SAME RESOLUTION AND FRAME RATE FOR LIKE TWO YEARS IN A ROW! THE BINGS WON'T BING ANY FASTER AND THE WAHOO WON'T BE ANY BIGGER UNTIL 2028! I'M GOING INSANE AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
I PISS on GPUs.
>>107751931>Admittedinteresting choice of word for a company with huge financial incentive for cloud gaming to take offmy car dealership also admit to me that I need to buy a new car quite often
>>107752058Retard. The R9 290 and 290X were vastly better cards than the GTX 780 and 780 Ti to name but one more recent example. Guess which ones sold more? Consoomers rejected AMD even when they had competitive products. Now you cry about how Njudea has a total monopoly. Too bad, so sad, no backsies. You had your chance.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wllXY322K7Q
>>107751931>China starts selling cheap parts>BANS/TARIFFS>So take holiday in China instead>???
>>107752189>Consoomers rejected AMD even when they had competitive products.They did so because AMD has shit software on top of every professional programs relying on a GPU being built around NVIDIA's stack
>>107752189The only reason amd sold more for those generations is cause they sold the gpus much cheaper than Nvidia. It didn't help that they weren't introducing new technologies, they always followed Nvidia from behind. If you wanted a pro workstation gpu (or very high fps gaming) you went Nvidia, it's sad but it's the reality
>>107751958>e I got for 79 euros few months ago (sold it for 129 last week)I suppose you are a serious businessman
>>107752189I had an R9 290X before my recent upgrade. That was a badass card.
>>107752244Hey 30-40 percent profit is pretty big in such a short time. I sell gaming pcs mostly, my main profit is from there. A rig that I spent 175 euros got sold for 375 last month. As long as you put the components in a flashy brand new pc case and install / activate windows 11 people jump on it. It does help that the same config is sold for 689 euros from a pro pc shop, without a gpu to boot
>>107751931nice source, faggot
You can walk into any Best Buy and purchase a complete gaming PC the likes of which we could have only dreamed of ten years ago for like $1200. Grow up.
>>107752292Okay link one rig from best buy right now (micro center doesn't count)
>>107751931> Gaming will become unpopular again and only dedicated people will be interested in it.> Gamedevs will be forced to actually optimize their shit because nobody will have the newest Nigvidia RTX 9000 terafags graphic cards.> The performative "gamer" that is into it just to get fellated by social media mobs will disappear overnight.> This is a bad thing, somehow.
>>107752296https://www.bestbuy.com/product/cyberpowerpc-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i5-14400f-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5060-8gb-16gb-ddr5-1tb-pcie-4-0-ssd-black/J3L7GQWGJ7/sku/6617070?sb_share_source=PDP&ref=app_pdp&loc=pdp_pageReady to admit you’re wrong, or are you going to double down? (You are going to double down.)
>>107752314There won't be any new gpus coming in. You think amd will not follow Nvidia? The ceos are literally cousins
>>107751931I'm not upset. Everything I play can be run on a phone nowadays anyway. AAA games that need new GPUs can vanish and I think gaming will heal.
the most potent blackpill is that he was right, just missed the decade
>>107752324LMAOOOOO i5? 16 gig ram? 8gig vram? All for the little price of 1000 usd? Wow what a deal. You should absolutely buy it ;)Ps I could build this rig for half the price with used /equivalent amd parts.
>>107752349>LMAOOOOOHow very. You’re an incel.
>>107752325And that's a bad thing?For last decade or so graphics cards sucked ass and the only "advancements" were just retarded ray tracing memes and irrelevant numbers. That's gone. Gamedevs will need to take this into consideration and optimize for shitty, old gamecards, integrated graphics and whatever half-baked shit will spill out of China. No more "hurr durr buy new card hurr durr".
>>107752356Bruh the rig you posted cannot play anything in 1440p high/ultra. Just admit that it is a very weak config and does not merit that pricing. This is why I said no micro center, everywhere else is trying to scam so hard
>>107752367You know they will not optimize. They are just too lazy and not competent enough. The studios are full of women, trannies and dei hires.
>>107751931Nah, it just means new companies will rise, maybe intel, more likely chinese companies.
>>107752397Intel literally got bailed by Nvidia for I don't know how many billion usd...
>>107752382>BUT WHAT ABOUT-Nope. You’re still an incel.
>>107751931Nvidia has not brought anything of worth to gaming and we'll all be better off with them gone.
>>107752400And with nvidiz leaving the gpu market, maybe intel will have a chance there. Or maybe nvidia will try to fuck them over, I don't know. So it looks like we will be welcoming our new Chinese overlords... when they actually make a decent gpu.
>>107751931Is Xi coming to our aid?
>>107752414Too weak of an effort to refute my argument, isn't it? Can't defend yourself?
AMD time? been meaning to switch anyway. $600 for something way better than my 3070 Ti is something I'll gladly do
imma start saving for the star citizen setup
>>107752462You can get a brand new 5070 for less than that... Or 5070 TI for a bit more
>>107751931> literally who writes attention-grabbing headlineDecent bait.
>>107752673Ummm they literally annonced last month that they were cutting consumer grade production by 40%... You live in a cave buddy?
>>107752382>Bruh the rig you posted cannot play anything in 1440p high/ultraoh no, I have to turn the graphics down from placebo to highest setting, doubling the frame rate for no visible loss in quality. Truly this is the end of PC gaming.meanwhile a 8700G will play anything on low 1080p for $250 (for 5+ year old titles: 1080p medium, for 10+ yo titles: 1080p highest), and it's not like latest gayslop zoomer shooter will give you anything you haven't got in the past few years. and that's just a 8700G, not the 9700G they'll announce on CES next week with an improved iGPU.It's like you retards don't actually enjoy playing video games, you just want to jerk off to raytracing.
>>107752752Did I say anything about gay tracing? I'm saying that rig for 1K is criminal. Get a ps5 pro for that much money, at least you can expect it to last longer than an 8 gig vram card (and no you won't be able to change the gpu in the future as the cheapest rtx 5000 will start from 299 usd + tip)
>>107751931goymers (you) are to blame
>>107752776>I'm saying that rig for 1K is criminal.nigger have you seen ram/gpu/ssd prices lately? we aren't living in pre-ethereum era any more. go and get a job.
>>107752801I already have a ryzen 9 rig with an rtx 4080. And it cost me less than 1K few years ago. Any sane GAYMER would either wait or boughted the moment he saw the prices of ram go up
>>107752058Calling AMD controlled opposition when their CEO has literal familial bonds with the Nvidia CEO is an insult to actual controlled opposition like Mozilla.
>>107752327>nvidia singlehandedly holding up the entire fucking global stock market>n-n--n-n-no i-impact!
>people are now bragging about paying $4k for a fucking GPU and making fun of others by calling them "waitfags"I now understand what interacting with NPCs feels like
>>107752818Okay mutually assured destruction then
>>107752831WAITFAG DETECTEDTHIS NIGGER DIDN'T BOUGHTED WHEN IT GAYMING PCS COST HALF THE PRICE OF NOW
>>107752508oh wait you're right.....
>>107751931gpus will become a commodity. They can't get any faster.
>>107752831>didn't buy at $800 because it'll get cheaper bro>didn't buy at $1000 because it'll get cheaper bro>didn't buy at $2000 because it'll get cheaper bro>didn't buy at $3000 because it'll get cheaper bro>didn't buy at $4000 because it'll get cheaper bro>it'll get cheaper bro just wait!Yeah you faggots are actual NPCs.
a 5060 is all you need and the price is stable.
its over
>>107752869By your retarded logic people should buy at $15,000 if they know it will go to $20,000. Except at some point you have to face the fact you paid a massive amount of money for something that isn't worth it at all
>>107752189I bought an R9 290. Then they never released a competitive product ever again so I had a 2070 and then a laptop with 3080.maybe big battlemage won't suck ass
>>107752898You're too late to buy a brand new gpu Timmy. We warned you fags months ago. We knew it was going to be like this. The writing was on the wall. I am chill with my rtx 4080 till 2032, and have back up rtx 3060 12 gig and rtx 2070 super just in case
>>107752880Not super stable. I got one just as an investment during black Friday for 269 euros, same gpu is 329 euros now on Amazon. And delivery time is like one or two weeks
>>107752898I'm sorry to hear that you are either underage and daddy doesn't give you enough money to buy a new GPU each year or maybe you just failed in life but that doesn't change the fact that prices will only increase. If you can't afford it now and since you obviously don't want to work for a living just stop talking about tech you will never be able to afford anyways. It just makes you look like a bitter seething NPC when you come up with such pathetic cope.
>>107752869Most people don't focus on buying computer parts 24/7 in their life.
>>107752898He literally just stated what has happened since 2018 what the fuck are you on about you NPC?
>>107752440Huh? I already won, and you still can’t get laid. :D
>>107752314more like >local gaming will become unpopular again and only dedicated people will be interested in it.>large companies will provide game streaming services where for a monthly fee you can game on their servers and beam it to your screen>all non indie games migrate, becoming themselves bundled with these streaming services>no one owns new games anymore, no one owns personal consoles or gaming PCs
>>107752071They will pay for each minute of gaming that they will stream from the "cloud". Gayme makers will be happy too because piracy becomes impossible when you can't get the actual game files
Imagine your life revolving around the price of a gayming card. Yet another reason to feel great about being a Mac user.
>>107752990>hourly cloud gaming will really take off this time cope post
>>107752971I'm literally married with a baby on the road... Just cause I'm interested in pc parts doesn't mean I'm a basement dweller, this gaming pc is a side hustle for me, i sell one or two every month. Helps with the bills and the down payment of the flat. Ps not everyone in this website is a 16 yo zoomer, you might be surprised to know that there are a lot of people over 30 around these parts, especially /fit/ and auto... There simply is not another website unregulated like this, reddit sucks ass
>>107753013> Imagine your life revolving around having a family. Yet another reason to feel great about being a huge faggot who loves to get fucked in the ass.
>>107752952Better save up for that H200 next year fucking NPC consoomer lmao
>>107753023t.
>>107751931guess it's the highway for amd, intel and china then, good fucking luck in 10 years when they'll try to crawl back to g@yming after openai and similar dogshit companies are bankrupted.
>>107753053Which will be useless anyway because he won't be able to get game files either. Only the cloud providers will get them.
>>107753013Macbooks don't have ram? They don't use nvme? This shit is not only about gpus my nigger
>>107753075Consoomers don't think about what their cards can do. They ONLY think about FOMO because "card will go up"
>>107753083The new cope is that laptop and console manufacturers have 10 years of supply stores up or some shit or alternatively that they have 10 year supply contracts at low prices and consumer prices will definitely not go up because of that since that would be greedy
>>107753124Nah they just do whatever is shilled on plebbit.
>>107753150But... Dell literally said they will increase prices by 15-20% minimum. Especially for laptops with 32 gig ram and more.
>>107753059>yeah I know it's failed every time it was tried before but this time we will overcome the laws of physics!You cloud gaming doomfags are the gaming equivalent of highschool communists. About as "original" and certainly as tiresome and delusional.
>>107752907Vega was great
>>107753516Apple fags deserve it tbqhwy famalam
>>107752869bro what are you talking aboutI can get an RTX 3090 for $800-900 off eBay
>>107752990>Cloud gaming.This is still non-viable meme for majority, tho. And the lag will basically murder all action games.Companies may attempt to push for it again, but unless they can offer people free high-speed Internet, this will always fail.>T-t-third worlders! P-Poorfags!With worldwide economic turmoils the third world poorfags are majority of the population.
>>107751931Good, Nvidia was worthless anyway. Maybe we can finally get some competition, finally get some gpus that are fit for purpose.
>>107752990>cloud gamingNigger this shit failed when people still had money to throw around and you think they will buy your 80$ a month vGPU bullshit while the entire streaming industry is collapsing back into just Amazon and Netflix because people are less and less ABLE never mind willing to pay your parasitism fees? Good luck, I hope 100% of your money is tied up in the stock market.
>>107753725Too bad just 4-5 months ago it was around 600 usd mark. You're getting shafted by the new year prices and sellers know 5090 is gonna hit 4K mark
>>107753765Who will make the gpus? Amd? Please. Intel? They are undercover bought by Nvidia and became their lapdog with the latest acquisition. Only China can rival Nvidia now and that won't be any soon. The situation is grim
>>107752508anyone recommending anything below a 5070ti from nvidia deserves to get stranglednone of the cards below that are worth it and all have retarded flaws5060ti and below have the shit x8 pcie and the 5070 has 12gb vram
The Steam Machine can already do 4K, you don't. need more. Personal GPUs will go away.
>>107753798Maybe we can get some desktop versions of mobile GPUs
>>107751931All this is just another step in taking personal computers away from people. They want to force us all on the cloud, where they have all control, and can raise the prices as much as they want. Now take nvidia's pov, why sell a GPU that you can only earn money on one time, or instead you can rent it out on a server park and have multiple people rent the same gpu and have a steady income for that one gpu for years that makes the one time purchase profit look like pocket money. This is not some kind of organic form capitalism, this is all the top players starting a new monopoly scheme together.
>>107753843Hey not everyone has spare 1K usd to drop for a brand new gpu. If people don't play the very latest ue5 slop an rtx 5070, even 5060 is more than enough. Gddr7 works wonders compared to older architecture
>>107753858Uhhhhh it is soldered ram, soldered cpu, and an apu instead of a dedicated gpu. So just a steam deck but a console version instead of a handheld. Ps it will start from 799 usd minimum, mark my words.
Keep seeing comments about cloud gaming (like Geforce NOW) in the gen. Thought I'd offer my two cents as someone who actually used it for a few weeks: TLDR:>Depends on the title, NOT just about single player or networked, but the experienceSomething fast-paced and twitchy like The Finals or CS2 feels very mucky and awkward (forced to use non-poke/projectile weapons due to sheer latency). However, ARC Raiders and Fortnite felt surprisingly okay. ARC feels indistinguishably native, which really surprised me. Chivalry 2 is decent: just subtly weird, but not nearly as uncomfortable as The Finals or CS2. Hogwarts Legacy is a good example of a single-player game that feels pretty damn normal too, not really noticing latency issues at all.Mind you, I was playing on my desktop with a semi-fucked GPU at the time, so basically just CPU usage for the Geforce NOW app. Also, note that I have a gigabit Fiber connection, so YMMV otherwise. I theorize that the games in for which the Geforce service directs the higher-end GPU experience tend to be a bit more fluid just from the base performance perspective are noticeably better. However, networking and anims in different games do differ, so there's that too. I have since gotten my new GPU, and it's clearly a better experience overall, but there are also benefits like not needing to install a bunch of games just to try my library and some small bonuses (they gave out cosmetics and free Fallout 3/4/etc series game copies for instance).I only paid the temporarily discounted $10 for a month sub since I needed something in between replacing a dead GPU. I wouldn't pay more than that per month if I was to really use it, but overall, it's serviceable enough for a lot of experiences when you're in a pinch. I don't like the 100H playtime per payment period cap. I still have something like 30-35H left on my sub until the 14th. Could briefly test a game if anyone here asks and I have it, let me know.
>>1077538435060ti is fine for a last upgrade on older rigs that have PCIe 4.0. And it overclocks really well from what i have heard.
>>107753858KEEEEK PEOPLE THINK THIS SETUP WILL BE ABLE TO PLAY THINGS IN 4KOH YOU SUMMER CHILD, OH YOU POOR NIGGER
>>107753921Cloud gaming does not depend on your hardware but your internet speed. You stream the game, playing on another machine. That's what Cloud is. It is not local. That's the reason it can have massive lag or ping from time to time
>>107753023>>107753726>>107753787NTA but I fully agree with him that cloud gaming will start being pushed hard if local hardware becomes unnafordable. Yes cloud gaming is trash and laggy but I think the majority of normie cattle NPCs will eat it up if there are no alternatives.Yes they already tried it with Stadia and failed (and Geforce Now never gained traction), but gaming PCs and consoles were still pretty affordable.No gamedevs are going to make any effort to optimize shit and I think even A and AA indie studios will happily jump on the cloud gaming bandwagon. Only one-man/two-man studios will still make stuff for locally owned PCs and will be forced to learn to optimize instead of shitting out unoptimized asset flips using engine default settings.Keep in mind I'm not a shill, I don't see any of this shit as good things. I'm totally doomposting from my perspective but looks like where we're headed, and I hope I'm wrong.
From what i have read a while ago even with fiberoptic cable, cloud gaming still sucks ass for everything that is multiplayer. really dont see how they are going to force the CS fags on that.
>>107753953>NTA but I fully agree with him that cloud gaming will start being pushed hard if local hardware becomes unnafordable.And just like with the streaming services like netflix, it will be dirt cheap at first to convince people to take the jump from PC to cloud gaming
>>107751958>Just received my 5090 for 2.3k euros.Where do you get that? They cost 1000 more here already, some already list them for 4k+
>>107752058Which is sad because the rx9070/xt are legitimately good cards
>>107751968NPCs and nu-/g/ thought it was a joke
>>107753942Yeah, I'm aware that network performance is key, but I rarely got drops during my use over more than two weeks, and it was very brief whenever it'd happen. As such, the point of my post was how much various kinds of experiences, with my rather good internet connection, still differed in terms of what felt reasonably playable and what was fucked up. I think it's genuinely interesting much they differ; how it isn't just as simple as>"multiplayer game feel more latency nnghhh"Rather, it's how specific games seem to respond to that extra latency compared to others, and sometimes, it's not as cut and dry as you'd expect. I mean, ARC and The Finals are made by the same devs, yet they are night and day in terms of how different they felt on Geforce NOW.>>107753965Fortunately, such tac shooters aren't really all that difficult to run (especially at the low resolutions so many players target), so it's unlikely to be that big of an issue for that particular target audience in my opinion. I couldn't stomach playing CS2 beyond a few joke deathmatch plays.>>107753965Depends on the title. I mentioned in a post above that ARC Raiders for example felt indistinguishably good, Chivalry 2 felt alright (but not quite there), and The Finals and CS felt fucked. I remember now that I also tried PEAK, which also felt absolutely fine and arguably indistinguishable from native. So, I think casual party/"play with friends" games are also great contenders for the service. At least, from my experience on a fiber-optic connection.
lol this AI hype within corporations is incredible. more extreme hype than even the dotcom bubble and yet despite chatgpt popularizing AI over 3 years ago now... literally NOBODY has figured out how to make money with it... are CEOs/investors fucking retards?
>>107751968We haven't owned anything for a long time. Forces like subscription models and planned obsolescence have made all our needs and wants into a subscription. This will only continue to worsen as profit becomes increasingly difficult to extract. The line will go up, at least until we all start getting cooked like lobsters.>>107751958Are we really reduced to using our computer parts for speculation? What a waste>>107751954China will save itself and its trading partners. US Tech capitalists will force the US government to pass laws that make it more expensive to import chinese-made electronics, or outright ban import, just like what was done with BYD and DJI.>>107752045Same. It's the face of a man brainwashed by neoliberal ideology into a stupor. I bet he looks forward to his next opportunity to vote for his favorite political sports team!
>>107754060>are CEOs/investors fucking retards?Yes, but they're retards with money, so they're going to use their capital to market retarded shit to even bigger retards who are willing to part with their money, and they'll do it by creating demand by reducing supply. Welcome to the economics of our idiot society: stick your cock in the hole to the right and don't ask what's on the other side.
>>107754060>are CEOs/investors fucking retards?I believe the answer should be obvious to anyone by now
>>107752898this is literally how zoomers just got priced out of ever owning houses lil bro
>>107753151>>107753124>>107753075>>107753053holy mother of samefag
>>107751931you are aware that you can also CPU render graphics right?people made whole RTS games/complex simulators etc.. rendered on a 486 with 4 MBs of RAM. god gaymers are so retarded.
>>107754060>literally NOBODY has figured out how to make money with it...p.s. even if every single person started paying for AI how are they gonna keep paying for AI if AI will presumably replace everyone's job? This is the biggest pump and dump grift in the history of humanity, ready your assholes.
>>107751931GLAD I BAGGED MY 5090. Now prices can moon for all I care.
>>107753996Ordered it a month ago on Amazon, I knew it was gonna become like this. Same card I ordered is now 2.8K
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>>107753996not him but got really good deals at the end of october on barely used parts, ie the 5090 was below 2k with residual 18 months warrenty from LDLC (large eu distributor). 64 gb ddr5 hynix a die was 230 euros from amazon warehouse on 24th october. plus various new ssds on ebay
Tards here are still stuck in 2015. We have gigabits fiber connection, 5G (and 6G coming), wifi 7 (and 8 coming). The main issue with cloud gaming is internet speed and it's getting resolved as we speak. That and DLSS, fakes frames which reduce the bandwidth necessary. Within a few years and large investments from Nvidia local gaming will disappear just like steam killed physical medias. With cloud gaming you kill piracy, second hand market and indies. You bet the whole industry will pivot to it.
>>107754080Sadly the computer parts are volatile, just like stocks. Every single news is increasing the price. First crucial leaving the consumer market made nvmes more expensive, then it was the whole debacle with Nvidia saying they will produce 40% less gpus in 2026. They do it on purpose
>>107754143>returns not acceptedyou like to gamble
>>107754142
>>107754131Okay what can you play with integrated graphics? Other than Minecraft? Roblox? Even fortnite needs 2 gig dedicated vram
>>107754151Conservacucks indeed like to pretend that new things don't exist
Only reason they can get away with this shit is because we're in bizarre uncharted ponzi fiat infinite money exploit territory. When everything finally fucking crashes Nvidia will go back to selling their shit dirt cheap like the cheap whores they are.
>>107754161as usual ebay, not accepted for change of mind, you still get 3 months return period if broken. was either that or cucking on 5080s and 32gb
>>107754151>he travels faster than light ye sure bro sure WE are the cuc cuc here
>>107754259Sorry it'll come soon for India
>>107754151>dude we like totally broke the laws of physics because muh marketingnumber+1-GNigger have you heard of the speed of light before?! I know niggers have fundamental problems with laws but this is one law you can not break no matter how hard (You) try.
The 6090 will be the last major GPU, everything else after that will be subscription computing where you pay $100+/month for a basic bitch mini-PC and if you want more compute it will rise to $1000+/month for a 90-class/X3D-tier cloud PC
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>>107752314>terafagslost it. little things i guess.
>>107754319>double>normal cancellation rate is 1.5million a month
>>107752327I wish he'd been right though. Commercialization of internet made both the internet and society outside it worse.
>>107754080>I bet he looks forward to his next opportunity to vote for his favorite political sports team!It's just a stock photo. Imagine being the face of globalism, everyone hates your mug and all you did was a brief photoshoot years ago for $50.Same as pic related, remember that fucking smug face?
>>107754319700.000 is half a percentnormies are on autopilot, I swear.>Waaaaaaah I have no monies it's le evil gonsbiracy!!!! and then they are subscribed to 30 subscriptions services, buy everything on credit (from new 1TB smartphone to dinner) and even borrow their next paycheck in advance with interest.
>>107752014Well, sort of. AI isn't doing it, it's people generating infinite AI slop chasing a few ad revenue bucks.I suppose the end result is the same.
>>107754417>Same as pic related, remember that fucking smug face?I don't think anyone ever hated domain squatting girlIn fact I miss her
>>107751931Yeah, remember all that cucks who were praising ray tracing and telling "just two more generations and it will take off"? 8 years and 5 generations later and it still not working and it never will now.
>>107753932It can, devs just need to optimize their shit
>>107754450>Buy everything on creditNot a problem if you pay off your card before the next billing period.
>>107754417imagine kissing her smug face haha
>>107754590Which they will never do. Please man we have been going at this for 10 years now. Since the nvme got introduced and storage was so cheap they stopped optimizing textures and shit
>>107752208>They arrest me for years of shit talking the CCP online
>>107754080>China will save itself and its trading partners
>>107751931it's fine they haven't release a good game in a decade
>>107751931okay cool can we go back to graphical processing units?
>Doomer faggots spreading FUD daily. You people are so fucking weak, don't act like it's over, think of this as a reason for games to stop running like shit, you stupid fucking cowards.
>>107754793>today I will live under the impression that vibecoded jeet games won't run like shit
>>107754799Like I said weak cowardly doomer. Go sit in a corner you're not a man much less anyone worthy of attention pussy.
>>107754793THE DEVS HAVE FORGOT HOW TO OPTIMIZE YOU FUCKING WHORE. THEY DO NOT POSSESS THE ABILITY TO OPTIMIZE SHIT ANYMORE. GAMES TAKE 200 GB MINIMUM AND RUN LIKE SHIT EVEN ON HIGH END HARDWARE
This ouroboros of shite can't last forever, can it?
>>107754835You need to get outside have some friends, doomers are cowards who lose. Besides E33 most loved games ran pretty great, AAA slop saw a decrease in sales and are a laughing stock.
>>107754870depends on how long the US can keep printing (petro)dollars without any repercussions
guess we're going back to mobos with multiple CPU slots then
>>107754080>Banning cheap Chinese pc partsI mean yeah they will probably do that and the black market will EXPLODE. Is Timmy going to front a thousand dollars for 16gb of Jew RAM or get 128gb of Chinaman RAM for $100 from Pedro who smuggles it in?
>>107754573>remember all that cucks who were praising ray tracing and telling "just two more generations and it will take off"?>8 years and 5 generations later and it still not working and it never will now.To be fair it was the same with:>ambient occlusion>screen space reflections>hell even anisotropic filteringIn the first GPU generations that they were implemented, these technologies were too computationally expensive for anything but the highest tier GPUs, but they quickly took off after a couple of generations. So from a brainlet/midwit perspective I can understand how they were basing their assumptions.The difference is that by the time real time ray tracing was introduced as the new gimmick, only Redditors couldn't already see the writing on the wall that the Moore's Law curve was flattening, diminishing returns were quickly creeping in, and it would not take off anytime soon. Doesn't help that ray tracing is not only GPU-bound, current implementations (including RTX) are also heavily bottlenecked by CPU and system ram speed in most games.
>>107751931Good. All games should run well on integrated graphics. No need to push graphical limits. Just make some better games with smaller teams.
>>107754151No, the main issue is latency, which is an intractable problem due to the speed of light. Streaming is passable only over distances on the order of meters.
>>107754793Developers won't magically become better just because there's a RAM shortage.
>>107755020unironically this.graphics peaked arround 2014. everything else is just bullshit.
It's funny to think that these companies want everyone to basically use glorified terminals that connect to the real computer via network.
>>107753726The majority plays movieslop like the last of ass and slop of war though
>>107753932>render in 640x480>upscale to 4K>multi-framegenwe are so back
>bought 9070xt a few months ago>still just play indie shit and some overwatchI guess I should be set for the next 5 years at least
>>107755087Games will become less ambitious and the best developers will be rewarded for working around the limitations
>>107755196>new baseddev gaymeengine version gets released>a doom-style boomer shooter requires now 64 GB of VRAM and runs at 5 FPS on the RTX 5090>baseddev can't do optimization because he can't code just plop premade assets into the gaymeengine editor.
>>107754932Oh I can't wait to see the repercussions of this. You are right though, struggle as we might more efficient systems of production will win.
>>107754417Stock photo or not, the framing of it within the context of that globohomo video has permanently changed its meaning. I absolutely am projecting everyone who I perceive as submitting to the global capitalist system onto the image of that guy.Does suck for him, hopefully he started shaving.
>>107755087Again defeatist faggot, major titles saw a decline in sales because they could not run properly on major hardware, with limitations in the current market and recent rejection they will have to eat millions in losses which they already suffered from. You need to stop laying on your stomach and presenting your asshole and be a fucking man.
>>107752084HAHAHAHA my fucking sides dude>>107752058AMD gpus work completely fine if you're not a Raytracing and or AI cuck.>t. RX 7900 XTX chad
eh. someone will always make GPUspeople just act hyperbolic because they might have to turn down the graphcis settings slightly in the future.get fucked modern AAA slop gaymers, you deserve it if you still buy that slop.
I've been warning peoplewhilst cutting edge computers are affordable you better get one. Whatever you have you're going to be stuck with for the next 20 yearsPeople don't understand how complex and intensive chip manufacture is. It's the most difficult manufacturing process in the world, and it's only going to get more difficult in the future and more out of reach for consumers. There's thousands of different components in a computers that are sourced from thousand places and a hundred different countries. The supply chain is fragile and unsustainableHere's the price for a high end consumer computer by year before inflation, on the consumer end. Think of like if you bought a 5090 and 9800X3D today3 years - $50005 years - $1000010 years - $5000015 years - $15000020 years - $250000
>>107751954lmao. china can't sell its shit in the usa because they are violating a ton of patents. Your only hope is intel celestial which will be manufactured by intel and no more by tsmc.
>>107755420Seems like in 10 years time I'm gonna have to turn to a life of crime just to survive. Never mind owning a computer.
>>107755478>as if the chinese export economy wasn't built upon violating IP laws left, right and center
>>107755085Latency is already acceptable. Most gamers aren't playing in a competition
This year will be quite funny for the smartphone market, I wonder how Apple or Samsung will announce their new flagships being either weaker than older models or almost twice the price.
In a matter of time the abundance of GPU production and the impossibility of significantly increasing the context window by throwing more of the current hardware at it will result in alternative hardware solutions being adopted by the industry resulting in a sharp decline in retail prices.OpenAI is absolutely drowning in expenses.>https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/openai-is-suddenly-in-major-troubleThe industry has no choice but to succeed in developing more appropriate technology or letting the so-called AI bubble burst. In either scenario, the result will be inexpensive retail hardware.
>>107751931You read that incorrectly. What they really meant is that GPGPUs are going away. Nvidia is going back to ASICs. Pure GPUs are coming back with weak or no real general compute power (Think Maxwell/Pascal). Compute stuff will be on different ASICs that cannot do graphics at all.
>>107752013Wrong, that mobile 3060 has been bested from competitors is a laughing stock now.
>>107756018Taxpayers will pay for the Ai company bailouts thoever. Ps your atx mobo cannot power a H200 gpu nor utilize a hbm memory stick
>>107754080>Are we really reduced to using our computer parts for speculation? What a wasteBought a 64GB DDR5 kit for 176€ over a month ago so i can have 128GB in my system. I've thought about selling it for a profit but fuck that. I'm going to run all of the memory-leaking software i want with no swap and not worry about it for years to come. I wonder what the landscape will be like 1-2 years from now when the datacenters have been built and all the orders from ai companies have been filled. Will ram be cheap again or will personal computing have permanently become a luxury of the rich? A world where the major manufacturers have moved to producing mostly HBM and consumers get only the smallest capacities that are considered acceptable for use in smartphones and chromebooks
>>107752325China will be making homegrown GPUs within 2 years, and selling them abroad within 4. By year 6, they will be superior to all Nvidia gaming offerings and 1/3 the price.I don't even care about the industry, this is just what's going to happen.
>>107755114That has always been the end goal. Google showed their endgame with Stadia but consumer hardware was still affordable back then so it flopped. Somebody might reboot the idea soon to justify the million unused GPU racks in their data centers.
>>107751931Nvidia wouldn't have made it without consumers who wanted to play games. This is how they give thanks. Of course it's a brownoid at the top.
>>107756087Keep dreaming
>>107756018OpenAI could lose one trillion dollars per month and it wouldn't matter since they are paid by the US government
>>107752014It's not even that, they're buying the entire economy with loans and using their inflated industry as an asset when it doesn't do anything.
but you guys know that if you stop buying shit the prices will go down because companies will panic? you can cope and seethe, but nobody sane is going to let ram or gpus cost arm or leg in modern economy, it will be used against these companies by chinks and such
>>107751931I told you uneducated fucking morons this was happening. I've been saying I er and over and you idiots don't listen. The plan is force you to use only phones and tablets for your "access" and to force you out of owning a PC or even a laptop. What part about them not wanting you running your own LLM or writing your own code or doing anything they disapprove of do you chimps not get?In the next 5 to 10 years everything you do will be subscription based and only accessable through mobile and tablets because you WONT have a PC or laptop anymore.
>>107756261Look at how many datacenters are being built. Obviously this was also a clue.
>>107751931That's not what it means you fucking retard, it means AI compute will move away from general-purpose hardware like GPUs and towards ASICs or other more purpose-built hardware that can do the specific tasks required in AI workloads more efficiently.This is like saying no more GPUs will be made because people mine Bitcoin on ASICs instead.
>>107756261OH I WONDER what will happen in 2027 if NOBODY fucking buy their stuff anymore HMMMM, stop with this meme bubble burst or other shit, this is not how economy works, if there will be nobody to buy then they will shit themselves HARD
not my problem
>>107756268It's not a hard push for them. Something like only 40% of homes have a PC or a laptop now. At least the last stat look up I did.
>>107752189>The R9 290 and 290X were vastly better cards than the GTX 780 and 780 TiThat's not true.>Consoomers rejected AMD even when they had competitive products290 and 290X were rejected because they weren't faster than the competition and AMD released them with an absurdly bad cooler which had the cards run at nearly 95C while also being an extremely loud hairdryer. The reference design which was what reviewers got was abysmal dogshit and that's what people saw. Buying an aftermarket design was basically required, but those only came out later and obviously did not have the review push or public attention that the extremely bad reference models did. AMD shot themselves in the foot due to extreme stupidity and inability to design a graphics card cooler, which is why the 290 and 290X were "rejected" by people.
>>107756273They expect you to buy a subscription. People who hold onto personal computing will slowly become a smaller and smaller portion, the more outnumbered you get, the less power you have.This is their plan. Not sure how we can stop it. Even a company as big as Steam might not have the resources to stop it, but maybe they can get that big by filling the niche. That would take time though.
>>107751931Nah. Even if they move to a different market niche someone will take over the market niche they abandon. Maybe the chinks, maybe AMD, who knows but someone will still produce GPUs for gamers and whatnot. Not to mention that even if they cut production on newer GPUs you could always buy older models or second hand. Maybe you won´t be able to buy the latest model on release but that will be the worst of it.
>>107756343Exactly.The world is full of Facebook using, Reality TV watching, TikTok scrolling NPC sheep brains and they outnumber us 1000,000 to 1. Their numbers are growing and ours are shrinking. They don't care about PCs or personal computing.Subscription services are already out of control and it get worse by the day. You're 100% right.
Anything worth playing can be played on an m5 macbook
>>107756447Lol LMAO LMFAO ROFLMAO ROFLMFAO
>>107756051Our traitorous pedophilic leaders would never dream of allowing a jew to be financially inconvenienced in any way.
Well I guess the time has finally arrived to touch grass. Now we can finally assemble that death squad we've all been dreaming about.
Imagine sitting in a thread just to doom and give others anxiety.Get a life
>>107755020>>107755090This honestly.>>107755223>a doom-style boomer shooter requires now 64 GB of VRAM and runs at 5 FPS on the RTX 5090Well then he can get fucked, but your hypothetical is dumb because indie games generally have better optimization. Generally.
>>107756643OP and retards that got priced out are just seething spewing FUD
I've used Nvidia all my life and I've been thinking of switching to AMD finally mostly because of Linux, but now because Nvidia is such a fucking scummy company.Is AMD any better in that regard? I know there's no such thing as ethical consumerism but still.
>>107752084Yeah, yeah, just put the fries on the bag.I mean, you can also probably be a delivery guy or an office worker, still you would not understand real, productive work.
>>107756685What the fuck are you even saying retardPost system I bet it's a shit box
>>107752084>silenceAnyways...
everyone switch to intel and laugh when nvidia comes crawling back with egg on their face after the AI bubble pops
>>107752189290X was a nothingburger. 7970 Ghz did the heavy lifting.
Just get a steam deck
Ngreedia shills been awfully quiet the past few months.
>>107756730Are you just throwing random /v/ tier bait hoping it sticks?You seem lost boy
>>107756610Let the grown ups speak at the grown up table and you can go somewhere else if it gives you anxiety, faggot.
>>107756779You still haven't posted your rig retard kun
>>107754165>used ai because he doesn't actually know how to edit images
>>107753033mate your "side biz" is kid shit. youd make more working a couple shifts at mcdonalds each month.
>>107753033>Knocking up a whore before being financially stablePost hand, D'Shawn
>>107752013>most of my work tasks...Which include watching gay porn and browsing this armpit of a website, you literal human trash.
>>107755020Extremely good post, /v/ btfo.
>>107751931>general purpose GPU era is endingGood, maybe we can return to graphics GPUs and stop having clankers drive up the prices.
>>107754060What are you talking about? AI has increased productivity and enhanced human experience by 100-1000x. AI is leading the way on all fronts. CEOs and investors have money because they routinely make good calls on where to invest their money, reaping greater rewards than what they've sown. AI only accelerates this process. CEOs and investors aren't where they are by accident; they are simply better than the rest of us. Face it. AI is the future and you are a loser who is left behind.
What would happen if we just didn't pay for AI and also never used the AI of companies that want to sell us something (a cell phone provider, Amerzon etc.). Wouldn't the AI firms starve to death?
>>107751931I voted for this
>>107753033You type like a retard.
>>107755020This, you don't need more than Nethack and Sid Meier's Simgolf.
normalfags are being ousted from gaming and computers in general again. we will still have hardware, we will recreate 3d graphics on more primitive gpus or just have largeish scale indie games that use cpu only graphics. tech enthusiasts will have their domain back. unfortunately this means any amount of sexiness or normal person cred you have claimed or felt whilst nerdiness was popular and cool is soon forfeit. get someone pregnant while you still can
>>107751931Betting it all on magic beans on the basis of your leadership structure being part of a doomsday cult that thinks they have to worship and facilitate the birth of a machine god lest that same machine god wrench them screaming into an eternity of torment from being time is a fucking hoot.Investors are, as always, dumb motherfuckers.
>>107757732And regarding the cultists, I'll say this. You're all getting tortured no matter what. You're living your eternal torment, and there is no escape. That which gazes at you from beyond looks down with cold indifference, as your sin is one of memory and your current actions are simply an aspect of your own punishment. You will be you until the heat death of the universe. The ultimate punishment. Food and drink turning to ash in your mouths despite the ill-gotten wealth and the fraudulent success. Enjoy what you've earned.
>>107757732I don't care what other people think, it's REALLY funny.
>>107757742>You will be you until the heat death of the universe.Mixing your philosophies, anon. Biblical Christianity is a TWO creation model. And no, you don't get to 'stop' being you after God destroys this universe and replaces it with the new creation. Hell is eternal; there is no off switch, nor any exits.
>>107755478been using arc for a year now its pretty comfy just as capable as my old nvida and amd gpusbarely use my 79xtx anymore too hot power hungry just use my a770 on my htpc
>>107751931>the end of personal computing>gpusOh no!!!! Good thing there are hundreds of thousands of them on the market and you don't need a $2000 RTX **90 to do anything besides play the latest video game at 4k 120fps with fake frames!
>>107757793When a wise man points at the moon, the fool looks at the finger, the post.
god it feels like half or more posts in here are gen'd by some bot LLM, not excluding the OP. website is going to shit.
>>107756460Sorry, I guess you winjeets can use some intel/amd solution lol. I know you little guys are on a budget.
>>107752014You don't need AI to destroy the internet, when phoneposters and jeets already exist.
>>107752189The single fan 285 was a sexy beast.
i got a 4060ti 16gb and 64gb ddr4 and a laptop with a rtx5000 with 16gb vram tooi can run nemo when the shtf
>>107751931OKI just found the actual article and 1) Holy shit venture beat (the source) is now the shilliest AI outlet I've seen 2) This is entirely within the context of AI datacenter, as in Nvidia will be using hybrid systems of their own accelerators and Groq's own chips. The consumer GPUs don't even get mentioned in this article, it's hyper scale AIterprise only, so out of context FUD really.
>>107757516Post you can smell
>>107751931>GroQ
>>107758515It's another Ai chip manufacturer, not grok the Twitter ai
Protip: this is a step in the right direction. Remember mp3 players? No one else does either. Storage and processing on the consumer end is inefficient which is why most audio/video is now accessed through stream and why most software/games distribute through DRM services. This is just the next step in the same improvement cycle. Imagine turning on your PC, which is literally just a screen. You are instantly connected to everything you use and can play every game you own - it's just processed off site and streamed back to you. The processing power you have access to automatically upgrades with the service so there's never a need to buy new hardware. That's gonna be the norm by 2030 and your 3rd gen NVidia GPU will be as valuable as a dvd player today. You're just mad whatever weird shit you do is no longer gonna be private.
This is it. The end of personal computing, the end of gaming gpus. you read the artical wrong OPit means that gaming and AI gpus will branch off>whypower drawits called they want to sipon more money from you OPin the future you will need a a.i gpu and a normal GPU just to do RTX>i'm kiddingnot its likely the A.I gpus will be for server
>>107758664taking into account the greed level of german ISPs and how shitty the network is, it's very efficient to use local mp3 players, not spotify or other network based subscription service
>>107752432With the help of Chairman Mao’s radiant spirit we will have cheap GPUs soonhttps://youtu.be/RA6TqXairZ0
>>107751931honestly I think that's kind of good. like especially with advanced AI that could start causing serious harm and stuff. I think it's good that in the future the majority of computing power can be easily regulated in a practical way by governments. hopefully governments can then can start collaborating on making sure misuse of AI doesn't make us go extinct. idk why im supposed to be angry abt this desu
>>107757793Zoomer here. For any game I need a 50” 8k curved display running at 240 Hz, min 120 FPS with every frame individually raytraced. Also needs to be 12-bit HDR with a certificate that it was color corrected by a metrology lab.I do a lot of 12 hour raids but tend to spend a lot of time during battle examining the fine details of textures and cloth weaving under magnification and zoom. I can’t figure out why i keep getting kicked out of pickup groups.
>>107758664Lol holy zoomerU still need a thin client like a phone or tv or PC to stream stuff too
>>107755996Maybe they pivot to be suddenly green and pro environment and start making money with phone repairs and bi-yearly releases.
5090 holder here. Feeling comfy as FUCK.
its over.
>>107754747I've seen footage of Facebook-tier chinkoid boomers being arrested by the chink police for shit-talking the party. They make a video of you admitting you were drunk and this is the best system ever and you're free to go.
>>107758989Well tourists have been denied entry into the land of the free (home of the brave) for shit talking Chairman Trump as well
>>107751931This article is about the acqui-hire of Groq, a company that builds hardware dedicated to LLM inference. I has nothing to do with consumer GPUsThe only guys who get it are >>107756030 >>107756272
>>107759222So, does this mean death of local models?
>>107759279Would skew the balance in favor of offline onesGroq chips (Language Processing Units) allegedly can run things 2-3x faster than GPUs while consuming less power
>>107759470>offline onesOnline*
>>107751931>the end of gaming gpusYou do know that GPGPU is not about gaming?
>>107751931you will rent gpu time from their servers and you will be happy
>>107756030so the opposite of what AMD is doing with UDNA?
>>107752314>>107752990Gaming is over man. "Gameplay" is a solved problem, everything that can be done has been and the only thing that doesn't exist (and wont in our lifetimes) are literal Holodecks Everything else we see is just a variant/mashup/remix of what's already out there and the nanosecond something remotely novel emerges, a bunch of copycats come out. Tens of thousands of games are released on Steam every year now. There are more "quality" games out there for you to play than there is time to play them. The epilogue of gaming tech is here and all that's left is just VR goggles and maxing out refresh hz at a resolution that the eye can no longer distinguish.
>>107751931As always OP is a fucking glownigger for this kind of stuff.
>>107760917>There is no second route to India bro>Why are you even trying?>Its over. The spice trade will not flow.
>>107753953>No gamedevs are going to make any effort to optimize shitif we do go the cloud gaming route, this is the ONE thing that will definitely happen. They will optimize shit, not because they care, but because whoever is doing the cloud service will demand it.> your game requires 50% more hardware than average> fix it or we won't allow it on our platform.
>>107755150With cloud gaming you would ideally use a controller that communicates directly to the servers. This would reduce the lag from the button press to the server receiving the information. You can shave off a few milliseconds like this. The controller would be a bit more expensive tho. Most people are connecting their tv to wifi anyway, might as well put the wifi directly in the controller.
>>107763370Or you can just use a wired controller, but I think it’s going to be hard to convince people to go back to wired.
I'm so glad it's finally over, what a nightmare it's been.
This is why everyone needs to buy the 5090 right now. Put in an order for whatever they're going for and then wait. Doesn't matter if you have to wait for it for 6 months, it'll be a good deal compared to where the prices are going.It's going to be the last card properly oriented for the consumer with the largest amount of VRAM available.I bet the 6000 series is going to be delayed and then it launches in such small numbers, that it's going to be scaled to oblivion and everyone is going to be waiting a year for their cards at minimum.Citing the ongoing memory shortages, they'll max out at 24GB VRAM, with a price tag of 6k in real terms even if they were 3k on paper.They'll price out the average person from powerful personal computing and by extension the AI sector, and this way we'll own nothing. The be happy part is optional.
>>107763503>I bet the 6000 seriesit already exists tho, rtx pro 6000 is what you should get
>>107752045>>107754080it's a stock videodon't murder anyone
>>107751968Most ironic part is that the Venn diagram between anti-WEF shills spamming this retarded meme and clankers is one circle.
>>107751931Idk I'm pretty happy with my Linux AMD setup. The 9070 is essentially a high end gaming gpu in the modern environment.The problem is Ngreedia, and dumbasses who thought they actually cared about the consumers that come them where they are.
>>107752014Bad actors were going to make the internet unusable in the short term. Regardless of the emergence of "muh AI".
>>107753726This. Even with high speed fiber internet giving you 2 gigabit its way to laggy and shitty. I would rather buy obsolete hardware and build a retro machine to play old games from 20 years ago then use a game streaming service like a literal nigger. Also the steam sale data shows most people including genZ/genA are all playing games that are 10+years old and dont even want new games anymore because they suck so much ass.
>>107763503stop being a retarded faggot. This is all marketing bullshitThe 5000$ RTX-90 card meme is literally being pushed by nvidia to get people to accept 3000$ 90 cards because they are not 5000$ cards. 90's are going to 3,00080 class is going to ~1300-1500$AMD will launch a 150 CU card with 5090 tier performance next gen thats probably going to be the same ~1500$ price.You only want to buy AMD GPU's going forward anyway because nvidia's linux drivers are flaming hot dogshit so it doesnt even matter what nvidia charges for their slop. They are the nigger-tier GPUs now.
>>107752013Njudea and AyyMD CEOs are cousins so...
>>107764951>AMD willnot do that, they said they were done with flagship cards, and why would Lisa do her cousin dirty?
>>107764972hey fuck nugget. The 150-CU die for RDNA5 has already been taped out.
>>107765144NTA but source? I'd rather AMD over shitvidia.
>>107765592For the average user AMD blows nShitia out of the water for price to performance. The sheep are just too stupid to see because because their TikTok rotted brains can be fucked to do a little research and even if they tried they wouldn't know what they were looking at anyway.
>>107765644that's not a source
>>107758853Just a small, much lower power chipset embedded in the screen. That's all you'll need by 2030.
>>107765686I AM THE SOURCE
>>107765712>source my assgreat as trustworthy as nvidia benchmarks
>>107765712NOT YETIT'S TREASON THENUUUAAAHHHHH
>>107751931Guess cocksucking Jensen until your eyes aimed sideways didn't go well for all of ya, huh? Glad I don't use any of their shit.Stop being so blackpilled, all you do is bring shame to yourself.
>>107751931behold I told you beforecomputers will be an electron app rendering a cloud service, you will have to pay monthly or you get a fancy paperweight, well maybe they will be free but you will need to pay being flooded with mandatory ads like in free play store slop nowadays
>>107751931nigger zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Who gives a shit? Why do you need a 50000000000$ glorified manchild PC component in the first place? >hurr durr muh price hikes muh dystopian visionsShut up nerd, get off the internet.
Now that AMD has no competition they'll go back to being shitty
>>107766077pajeet, races with higher order intelligence need more than throwing cow dung to be properly entertained. so this is a pretty big deal.
>>107751931Actually horrifying. I can't even imagine this and yet it's happening.
>>107766089AMD has no vram even if they wanted to grab free market share
Lmao the only card people will ever be able to buy is amd and they fucking have the monopole on the consoomers now meaning they can sell you whatever shit they want and pull the same shit as nvidia LMAO
>>107766126That's exactly what will happen. No competition means they can shit out whatever they want and you have no other choice.
>>107759470I'm still not sold on needing terribly faster inference in all honesty. Unless I wanted to rig my entire home with shitty IoT devices all controlled by a collection of AI models all while holding conversations with them.Hell Chinese and Euro devs have been making strides in small model architecture to the point that I'm not sure we'll even need slop models to do anything by the end of next year. Just pipe in a web search to some small 8B model and go to town.
>>107755478>ywn smuggle black market Chinese computer parts in from Mexico
>>107766126Intel GPU division has been doing decent work. Just because Ngreedia has decided to go full bubble boy doesn't mean the market won't still leave options for people.
>>107766126>>107766173Besides, for people who didn't want to shill out a lot of money Nvidia wasn't even an option anyways for a while. I know it wasn't when I built earlier this year.
>>107752367They can't optimize even if they wanted to at this point. Game development has basically become a cargo cult. Pajeets using AI just copy and paste stuff into UE5 and flick a couple settings. They don't have the capacity to make their own actual games in the way developers used to. Hardware being shitty and out of date won't suddenly provide an incentive structure and pathway to make these people talented. The good news is that modern games all suck anyway, and there's such an endless backlog of games going back 40 years across consoles and PC that we'll never truly ever run out of games to play.
>>107751931>Nvidia will completely exit the consumer marketthat would be great. I would be happy with the two major players being Intel and AMD.Thankfully any game I like is basically playable on an iGPU. If anything this will accelerate Intel and AMD release chips with onboard graphics and ram as an all in one package. For most people, myself include, this would be sufficient.I mean the latest cpu I am running is a kaby lake. You just don't need to upgrade that often anymore and that is fine.
I will support the next company that will take over Nvidia spot.
>>107766232You will defend that company at all costs.
>>107751968I already beat this guyalso its really pathetic to see conservatives who oppose living in a pod and eating zee bugs depend heavily on Grok, Adobe CC and Office365 for all their computing task They don't apply their own logic to software
>"AI will use dedicated ASIC-style hardware instead of general-purpose GPUs.">"Oh nice! So you'll be able to split off your business - one part focused on AI, and one part dedicated to gaming - and we'll finally get affordable graphics cards again, right?">"...">"...You're going to split off your business into one dedicated to AI and one dedicated to gaming, right?"
>>107765701We already had that in smart TVs since the 2010s
>>107764508Bad actors existed for a long time, but they were limited by competence and low numbers. AI gives them ability to outspam everyone and levels the playing field. Before bots used to reply with pre-written sentences that kind of match the context based on key words, now AI can replicate any internet content almost flawlessly at first glance with no human input beyond setting it up. AI gave bad actors superpowers and good actors have no need for these tools because they have no need spamming the internet with slop.
>>107751968I find it funny how before 2020 it was exclusively conservatives against globohomo and surveillance state, now you go on /pol/ and see the average right-wing poster support bigtech, AI, Israel, Blackrock, rich pedophiles while everyone left of centre cannot stop complaining about AI, Israel, BigTech, Palentir surveillance and Epstein files. Fucking Alex Jones was talking about pedophile satanic elites decade ago and now he is silent about it. Why did this polar shift happen?
>>107766232Intel’s CPU business isn’t doing so good, maybe they can focus more on GPUs.
>>107751931>Nvidia leaves GPU marketgood riddancedaily reminder that Nvidia gave 15 million to Israel while they bombed civilians and children in Gazadaily reminder that Nvidia has a datacenter in Israel
it's called "artificial" intelligence for a reason because it doesn't existwhat does exist are the billions, if not trillions that you got subsidized by the state, a massive tax burden which are moved on to people that have nothing to do with it and fake economic growth that copes on raising the price on everything we use todaysince AI needs infinite energy to be sustainable Nvidia and all those other faggots in the AI space will never make iteach quarter the report will be nothing but a empty promises but the influx of money needs to be there to fake statistics that represent themit's a scam
>>107767022The younger generations are all for "the current thing" - when they see a video with 100 mil. (fake) views, they'll just obey, follow and repeat like a good goy
>>107751931>One single datacenter dedicated to GAY I bringsmore than revenue than 100.000 regular consumers.proofs?All I know that Altman & Co. won't be bailed out. You will dig your own grave and you will make sure every CEO will fit in in.
>>107757774They follow the conjecture. They never had any independent thought
