Euler Normal EditionDiscussion of Free and Open Source Diffusion ModelsPrev: >>107750643https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide>UIComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUISwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUIre/Forge/Classic/Neo: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#reforgeclassicneoSD.Next: https://github.com/vladmandic/sdnextWan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP>Checkpoints, LoRAs, Upscalers, & Workflowshttps://civitai.comhttps://civitaiarchive.com/https://openmodeldb.infohttps://openart.ai/workflows>Tuninghttps://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuninghttps://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkithttps://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerhttps://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tunerhttps://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scriptshttps://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe>Z Image Turbohttps://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image-Turbo>WanXhttps://github.com/Wan-Video/Wan2.2https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/wan22/>NetaYumehttps://civitai.com/models/1790792?modelVersionId=2485296https://nieta-art.feishu.cn/wiki/RY3GwpT59icIQlkWXEfcCqIMnQd>Chromahttps://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-Basehttps://rentry.org/mvu52t46>Illustrioushttps://rentry.org/comfyui_guide_1girlhttps://tagexplorer.github.io/>MiscLocal Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmetaShare Metadata: https://catbox.moe|https://litterbox.catbox.moe/GPU Benchmarks: https://chimolog.co/bto-gpu-stable-diffusion-specs/Img2Prompt: https://huggingface.co/spaces/fancyfeast/joy-caption-beta-oneTxt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusionArchive: https://rentry.org/sdg-linkBakery: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage>Neighbors>>>/aco/csdg>>>/b/degen>>>/r/realistic+parody>>>/gif/vdg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/h/hdg>>>/trash/slop>>>/vt/vtai>>>/u/udg>Local Text>>>/g/lmg>Maintain Thread Qualityhttps://rentry.org/debohttps://rentry.org/animanon
>>107754310Thanks for the bread anon.
Blessed thread of frenship
>Should have bought a 5090.>Could have used that extra 8gb.>Damn me.you've been warned long enough, there's nothing more important than VRAM
>>107754353I didn't know i needed them until last Thursday.
>finally the wan video is close to what I wanted>notice the hand is sloppedwe're still doing this in year of our lord 2026
>>107754359yeah it's mindblowing i can do this from my couch in about a minute.a year from now is going to be insane.here's an example of a hand detail to make sure the cat palm tattoo is legible.
>>107754388Z-video turbo will save us
>training lora of girl i knew in highschool >had a huge crush on her cute face, large breasts, and gigantic ass (she walked on her toes often but not in an autistic way so her ass was fat)>she once consoled me after i broke up with my gf at the time >visited her house once, got drunk and played vidya>she looks at me and goes "soooo anon... are you going to make a move? ;)">spend the rest of my life jerking off to her >a few years out of highscool we chat a bit>she says "i miss you so much, anon. we were such close friends i miss that">now shes married>probably already pregnant by some tan skinned guy from a non burger country >look at training samples >she looks so cute >so fucking cute i fucking miss her bros how did i miss that opportunity so hard 2k steps in and i dont think its collapsed yet
shift before of after loading lora?
previous outcome had choppy segments. no more
>>107754390That's z-image right?
I think he blacked outWe can have a few hours of peace
>>107754425yes, as you can see on the filename
Do you guys think Culc got cornholed by Jacko? I've always thought he was chemically castrated.
>>107754411it doesn't matter, there's no such things as orders on ComfyUi
>>107754423It makes a decent 4 seconds. slow mo not my thing.But man, teach us...>>1077544294chanx, can't see them. Don't ask.
>>107754425yes>>107754411which one looks better to you?(shift -> lora)|(lora -> shift)
>>107754310>>Maintain Thread Quality>https://rentry.org/debo>https://rentry.org/animanonis this why threads can't get to bump limit anymore?
>>107754427>I think he blacked outLooks like no based on post above
>>107754452>4chanx, can't see them.I also use 4chanX and I can see the filenames, lol
>>107754472he meant regarding the shitposters as it filters them out
>>107754402What kind of move? Did you play chess with her?
>>107754462there are two older threads that haven't been filled yet. I really hate how retarded /ldg/ posters are nowadays. actual fucking children
>>107754488I play cheese with mine.
I absolutely hate Comfy it's not even funny. Really, I tried using it for a few weeks and it's a PITFA.Worst issue I had, after I reluctantly coped with having to push the whole screen around all the time and move fucking boxes out of my way and having to right click the image to open it in full screen where I have to use another browser tab and/or having to zoom in and out all the time and having to install another fucking node just to save the image as jpeg and that the save image node doesn't have an option to change the filetype, that I fucking can't manage to have a Hires-Fix like functionality or something like the img2img tab for sending images to another workflow copying the exact settings to have inpainting or additional upscale. To upscale an image I always have to push the generation through a second KSampler, even if I didn't like the first low res result. I simply can not understand how Comfy folks work like that and why no one in the whole cloud of the Comfy ecosystem ever came up with a conditional path that ONLY runs when you click a conditional on-off button while it cached the previous result and additionally reuses the same seed from the first render.So yeah anyhow, I installed Forge-Neo and it was like getting back into my own comfy bed after a long second class train ride entangled in cables. Only thing I miss is the ability to install new samplers since everyfuckingthing is made as a fucking comfy node and not a library that one can just import into any UI of their choice.
>>107754353I thought about it but even having the money I couldn't bring myself to buy a 5090 when I already have a 4090.
feelin fab
>>107754469Could be the legacy schizo, he has something to gain. He's less aggressive than the one in the second link. They are going to seethe and not pretend they are getting flushed by the mods again.
>>107754519Is this Z Turbo?
>>107754530Nah I'm still on pixelwave flux
>>107754514>Only thing I miss is the ability to install new samplers since everyfuckingthing is made as a fucking comfy node and not a library that one can just import into any UI of their choice.poothon issue and comfyorg doesn't share. you only get paid or get equity if you only make shit for them. they never reward or support anything that comfyui uses. it's actual open source poison
>>107754528ranfaggot is the oldest schizo but always hits the thread with fresh schizo energy. how does she do it?
>>107754536The microsoft of gen AI.
>>107754533Have you checked out ZiT training or anything? I feel like you'd be able to push out some gigakino in addition to all your pixelwave gens
>>1077545198Gb man... Just look at that cat...>>107754423
>>107754550Obsessing over him ruined your life.
>>107754567That is definitely a cute cat>>107754558I need to take a look at the newer models. The last one I tried was chroma which although it had some promise and I made a few pictures I liked with it, was too slow and inconsistent to be worth using unless you are wanting to something super raunchy.
>>107754589It's terrifying to see he spends all day doing this.
>>107754533>pixelwave fluxWouldn't ZIT be faster on a 4090?
>>107754599IMO you'd really like ZiT. Fast, light(er), and if you're only doing up to softcore it's local SOTA. Chroma still wins with vagene and bob though. Despite being distilled it takes to styles incredibly well.
left is Qwen Image 2511 and right is Z-image turbo, Qwen Image improved on realism but it's still pretty slopped imo
>>107754599Z will learn your style easily, can recommend
>>107754616your obsession? you care deeply about what he thinks about you. can you elaborate?
>>107754639i actually prefer left even though i believe qwen is a total bloated meme left looks less ai
Where could i post my animated cunnies?Such a wast of shared friendship.
>>107754665/b/ or /trash/. /b/ is kind of insufferable if you hate avifags
>>107754665>>>/ic/catalog
>>107754665catbox link here
>>107754652Left is gayer.
>>107754681both are gay but left is authentically and tastefully gay while right looks like a faggot zoomer wannabe metrosexual also the soft shadows on right look ugly compared to the hard realistic shadows of left
24GB VRAM is all you need... anything more than that is just encouraging bloat. I DESERVE local Sora running on a single consumer GPU and will settle for NOTHING LESS.
>>107754689So it's just the pose right? They're technically the same.>>107754675>>>/ic/They're realistic cunnies.
kinda cool you can use photo loras for paint styles
fug vram i want speed and efficiency
>>107754722It's nice, is it French?
>>107754713the glasses, hair, the way he holds the cup, pose yes, and again the overall look of the image. right is too soft and ai >They're technically the same.no. i dont even know why i care to reply i dont even like or use qwen
>>107754353nah, i'd rather have a 5070ti with 128gb of ram than a 5090 with 64gb
Here goes another ban, but no mater, i love you guys.https://files.catbox.moe/yzzi5k.mp4
>>107754639I really don't like that ultra HDR effect on Qwen desu
Speaking of which, no one send his 4090 to china to expand it to 48gb?For those who don't know it IS really a thing.
>>107754730is what french? the elf? no? she's elvish???
>>107754749Not enough background noise.
>>107754310>32gb ram>24gb vram>still swapdisk assraped using qwenogre, can't have any fun in this gay world
>>107754757yeah you can buy one for 3khttps://www.c2-computer.com/products/new-parallel-nvidia-rtx-4090d-48gb-gddr6-256-bit-gpu-blower-edition
>>107754757this sounds like an incredible way to get scammed
>>107754803And get chicom stuxnet firmware installed.
>still baseless>still mogged by saasit's over
>>107754795b>Blower-editionI already like it.>>107754803I guess you have to user money you can afford to lose.
>>107754816how do we know they don't already do that to everything produced there?
>>107754845what do saasbros do when they want to gen tiddies and vagooper
>>107754848http://genius.cat-v.org/ken-thompson/texts/trusting-trust/
>>107754402this is not gonna be healthy for society at large is it
>>107754866spend hours spamming increasingly more dubious prompts until they get a single hint of a nipple and are immediately permabanned with no refund
>>107754699You people recommend RTX 5070ti 16gb over RTX 3090 24gbFuck You all
>>107754896lmao
>>107754906I stand by my rec and 24GB is not enough so he's wrong.
>>107754896
>>107754353i upgraded from a 3090 to a 5090 and Wan gens are literally 4x faster and you never need to block swap even at 1 megapixeli'd have done this sooner if i knew. most people were like "yeah it's a bit faster" but i had no idea HOW MUCH faster it actually is.
>>107754896They don't ban anyone for nipples.The autistic humiliation ritual of working around filters is true though when you SAASfag.
>>107754640>>107754626I'll give it a try this evening, maybe. Since looking up a workflow online it looks not complicated to set up in ComfyUI.>>107754625Definitely probably faster, though pixelwave is notably faster than chroma for whatever reason for me, even with same quantization.>>107754896I recall when OpenAI's image gen was new I tried it out making mermaid pictures and it kept making them randomly nude even when I explicitly told it otherwise.
Damn that z image turbo model is cool af, will play with it a bit
How are the Chinks so good at this AI stuff
>>107755030They dont have anti ai tech trannies. Not joking.
>>107755030>How are the Chinks so good at this AI stuffthey aren't cucked like the western dogs so they can fully focus on making their model good and not virtue signal with a cucked modelhttps://huggingface.co/black-forest-labs/FLUX.2-dev#risks
>>107755030Solo promoting is not impressive anymore. Show me a man who's limbs are strapped to all four corners of a desk partially submerged in a pool while a woman 3 times his size cleans his face with a sponge
>>107754906I've recommended getting a video card with as much VRAM as possible. There are idiots/trolls that say VRAM didn't matter and speed/bandwidth is more important, ignoring the fact that not being able to gen is a showstopper compared to slightly slower speeds.
>>107755056>>107755060Yeah it's really bad with the regulations and BS in the EU. On top of that exploding energy prices while China will just build another coal or nuclear plant.
>>107755071also ignoring the fact that the 3090 has higher bandwith
>>107754748wait that looks like VAM, what a blast from the past, I wonder if they even are still doing their "new engine"
American kids play games, Chinese kids study math.
>>107755144life is not worth it without some skibdy rizz 67 aura farming
>>107755069You've got a weird fetish, man.
>>107755136Vam 2.0? Yea the dev work on it but drags on and on.I also would like to see the last HDRP in good use.As for my stuff, it looks really good out of wan2.2,don't know how it compares next to virtamate2.0
>>107754757there are 32GB 5080 too nowhttps://xcancel.com/unikoshardware/status/2004527606818120006
>>107755168>Vam 2.0? Yea the dev work on it but drags on and on.I don't think we'll see something proper in this lifetime, kind of sad>don't know how it compares next to virtamate2.0from what I get, vam2.0 is mainly a way to have way better performance compared to 1.0
How2prompt shortshack on Z without it turning her into an old hag?
>>107754353Compute is also important, some of the vram issues can be compensated with ram, but nothing can compensate for a slow chip.>>107754987I have a 5090 + 3090 server, and yes the 5090 is way faster, mainly because the 3090 cannot do fp8 (and it's also a slower card in general), NOT because of vram issues.VRAM wise, you can test easily by forcing block swap with the 5090, for example 20 vs 0, and you'll see only a marginal speed improvement, not x4.The 3090 is still great for a lot of things because of its vram size, you just need to know its limitations.
>>107755121did you get the face detail working anon?
>>107755000Check'd. Looking forward to it.
>>107755082it's not even really regulation for europe or the us, it's also self censorship and people paying too much important on safety cultureresearchers in China fundamentally don't give a shit nor waste time about safetyism
>>107755245>researchers in China fundamentally don't give a shit nor waste time about safetyismas it should
>>107755245>China fundamentally don't give a shit nor waste time about safetyismAsk a communist model about what happened in Tien An Men square. They got their own no go areas.
>>107755238yeah and i did it wouthout the pozzed impact pact
>>107755267Can't, too busy asking it what happened in Naruto's bedroom during the night he learned the shadow clone jutsu
>>107755267Just like everywhere. You protest against the government, you get shot.
>>107755267lmao
>>107755267Since most chink models are open weights, you can just run a finetune.The European and American self-censorship cripples their models.
>>107755256in general yeah, wish western ones stopped being obsessed about that shit so much, to the detriment of their models>>107755267oh I didn't mean they were perfect, they have to not go too far and offend the old cadavers of their Central Partyas for tiennammen square, if you use a local unfiltered version of their LLM, you get perfectly normal results, the only parts censored are their chatgpt like websites
>>107755267I'll take that censorship over "nipples are the devil" sanctimonious western censorship desu
Stop jumping the gun on new threads you fucking imbecile
>>107755267Yeah but this has no effect whatsoever on waifu gens.
>>107755267
>>107755316it was full, posts were deleted
>>107755324GEG
>>107755322>Yeah but this has no effect whatsoever on waifu gens.this, it's that simple, I don't give a fuck about what happened in ching chong city in 1989, if the model can do good 1girls that's all that matter
>>107755337Oh, my mistake
testing Wan SVI 2.0 Pro with high speed action footage. it did fuck up the middle seam but i don't blame it, quite cool regardless that you can make a 20 sec video like this
>>107755294Unlike westerners who completely pozz their models and need extensive finetuning or abliteration, these are just annoying system prompts.The models themselves are fine.If you run them locally or with an API endpoint that lets you change sys prompt, it will act normal.
I expect the Chinks will stop releasing open weights as soon as they have a solid monopoly on generative AI.
>>107755298Did you inpaint her hands?
>>107754889I can create the perfect woman.
>>107755380yep, though deepseek 3.2 looks to have been brainwashed for the events even in api, if I ask in vague terms it doesn't knowdidn't test with direct question, it probably would work
>>107755393No that's just vanilla ZIT with random wildcard prompt.
>>107755401Weirdly enough it works with the speciale variant.
>>107755437These style loras give the skin textures quite a hit tho.Same prompt without lora
>>107755463Because these loras are overcooked. The developers of the lora trainers are also to blame as they don't offer more granular training options.
>>107755450interesting, probably rng from different finetunes
>>107754402>she looks at me and goes "soooo anon... are you going to make a move? ;)"what happened?i have an office crush that i only have one public pic of, it's low res, i need to somehow get a high res current photo of her so i can study her hypothetical situations
Those girls look fairly young...
>>107755437that grid man
>>107755502But they're not real anon
>>107755505it's ssss level
>>107755481Yeah the creator of that lora said I should use some specific sampler but I am on Forge so.This is Jib realistic image lora, completely different lora but it creates pattern again without changing the overall outcome of the image.>>107755505Yeah quite obvious on this one. Lora was at 0.6 maybe would help when one doesn't apply the lora on the last steps.
what's crazy is i am using default setting in ai toolkit and having no problems with loras at all, what the heck are you guys doing
>>107755463Can your image generator add specks?
>>107755539Zhang scheduler was it. Not sampler. Bit that doesn't exist for Forge either.Remove the loras and the pattern is gone.
>>107755552Default OT config works great as well. Probably poor dataset idk.
>>107755552using shitty images from social mediaare you training on 1024?
>>107755552the only problem i have with ai toolkit is that i oom with my 8gb card and cant train at all lol
>>107755556I have a film grain upscaler... but it seems to get killed by ultraflux vae
>>107755552You have no problems because you're training generic 1girl loras.
>>107755625nice
>>107755552Which lora are you using. What's the weight?
>>107755630love that lamp
>>107755633hand look wrong for some reason
>>107755631You can always rent a runpod to train loras.
>>107755633>>107755651And feet too big, they should be more dainty.
>>107755651Toe looks even wronger
>>107755623512 or 640 but yeah your dataset sucks>>107755640i also trained this very lora my man>>107755648i'm running psxlino at .8, the other is powershot s40 lora i made at .75 that isn't on civit>>107755645ty
>>107755633>4 toes on on her left foot>6 toes on her right foot
>>107755676most humans have 10 toes, so this is fine
>>107755676I think upscale pass messes it up sometimes because first pass looked ok. Last gen has two shoes suddenly. Maybe 0.5 denoise is too much.
upscaling pass isnt worth it when cnet is borked
>>107755659what happens with the pictures that i upload for training? can i be sure they are not saved? think i'll just buy a new card desu
>>107755715I mostly use Hires fix in Forge because I want to decide after first pass whether I bother an upscale.
>>107755675is there a particular way you downscale your datasets?
It has more issues with feet than with hands when they are not in focus.
>>107755743My issue with those is that they look brand new + immaculate + It's like an AI signature at this point.
>>107755796What sampler / scheduler?
>>107755806That's just the prompt
>>107755747nah just make sure when you look at the images they are all crisp and without any artifacts or oversharpening. have a good variety of shots too, never upscale images and crop them square.
>>107755815Euler a beta, simple or normal for these, but I swap often.
>>107755819Yes and no. You can add details and still looks "brand new".I mean if you go for realistic, then, you have to take this into account.
>>107755743nice. that's zit? it's in forge?
>>107755836My prompts are lazy. But especially with models like ZIT and maybe Qwen too you can do a lot with novel prompting details.
>>107755815>>107755831use euler, not euler ancestral for realism
>>107755841Yeah Forge Neo. lllyasviel pretty much seems to have stopped developing Forge original
>>107755855Try that again but ditch the blur effect?
>>107755743could you catbox one of yours with hires fix? i was pretty unhappy with realistic skin textures i was getting but looks like you're doing something i was too dumb to figure out
>>107755870Does it change much? I don't know.
>>107755889It's no blur effect just not upscaled. They are very early steps with z image.
>>107755853niceu
>>107755896I really don't know what I did to make it ok just some wildcards thrown together.>18 year old girl with futuristic makeup and with Latina brown bun hair, wearing Hooded jumpsuit and metallic fingerless gloves as a futuristic queen.she is Lying on back, arms behind head with a gun, and her face stifled laugh. She wears glossy nailpolish.the scene is Quantum teleportation malfunctions, splitting individuals into parallel versions across alternate realities..a professional artistic photoshot. award winning quality.>Steps: 10, Sampler: Euler a, Schedule type: Beta, CFG scale: 1, Shift: 8, Seed: 3804632803, Size: 896x1152, Model hash: 8e9df7926d, Model: lexivisionII_lexivisionZBeta2, Denoising strength: 0.4, Original Size: 896x1152, >Wildcard prompt: "a 18 year old girl with futuristic makeup and with __haircolors__ __hairstyles__ hair, wearing __clothing_female_futuristic__ as a futuristic queen.\nshe is __pose__ with a gun, and her face __expressionsH__. She wears glossy nailpolish.\nthe scene is __scenario_scifi__.\na professional artistic photoshot. award winning quality.\n", Hires Module 1: Use same choices, Hires CFG Scale: 1, Hires schedule type: Beta, Hires upscale: 1.5, Hires steps: 6, Hires upscaler: 4x-UltraSharp, Beta schedule alpha: 0.6, Beta schedule beta: 0.6, Version: neo, Module 1: Qwen3-4B-abliterated-q8_0, Module 2: ultraflux
sloppa hours
>>107755935Why don't you entertain us with some non slop?
>>107755906Teach us.
>107755935peanut gallery hour
>>107755935You must be fun at parties.In fact we're having one, and you're not invited.
>>107756036lmao
>>107755828You're the man.
>>107754748UUOOOOOOOOOOOOOH so hot, nice anon!!!!
Well Z-img understands what a trident is better than pixelwave.
>>107756109Unfortunately it doesn't understand cameltoe.
It understands what a mermaid is, not requiring a lora (did have to clean up the tails a little bit in GIMP but nothing serious). Previously only booru-tag models could do that. Also two character subject handled pretty easily. Genning several times, their poses and interaction looked natural and normal most of the time.
>>107755170What's that supposed to cost, 5k?
Also I checked the sun it rendered. A lot of times, suns and moons and circles in general that are intersected by foreground objects get distorted, sometimes seriously. This is a pretty good result for a near perfect circle.
>>107756142no price so it's probably stuff you're not supposed to buy
>>107756144Neat also based KDE chad >>107756129I think the most explicitly prompted characters I've seen in a single gen is 5. Maybe.
Basically it's the last steps that makes Z-image turbo so realistic, that's interesting
A RTX Pro with 96GB or 48GB VRAM is too much for a hobbyist that wouldn't monetize this expenseAnd even though I have €2600 (current local price) to carelessly blow on a 5090, I'm just a fucking retarded beginnerI wanted to stick to my current 16GB card while I learn diffusion flows, the games I play wouldn't even benefit from a 5090, but the outlook for the consumer hardware market in the coming years is SO grim that I'm tempted...>>107754889They will keep immensely restricting consumer facing models, the average person won't be able to just generate a collection from his oneitis pictureBut yeah, this will destroy a few individuals---On topic: Any resources on learning how to control Z img turbo better? It straight up ignores my 1girl posing instructions. I know there are posing models out there but I don't know how to build a proper Comfy flow to pose, or to add loras
I can't wait for base and properly trained finetunes for that. With what z image can do in a distilled version already, base must be the goat.
>>107756298Oh my sweet summer child
>>107754353it's funny how many people around me (into ai) told me "nah 16GB is enough" then a few months later tell me how they wish they knew so they'd with 32 instead
>>107756293>my 1girl posing instructionsWhat instructions? Just describe the pose in the prompt. Unless you want goon poses-
>>107756245This shows that most anons don't know how models work.
damn, this olivia rodrigo zlora sucks ass
>>107756245anon that's a nonsensical conclusion, you can't have "last steps" without "early steps"
>>107756298Base is going to be heavily censored.
>Base is going to [headcanon]
>>107756326youll get it
>>107756346Flux was censored too yet we got Chroma.
>>107756298One thing about it is I have not been able to get a good detailed painterly background. It kind of reminds me of pony in tending towards nondescript bokeh backgrounds. Though I have seen some with good backgrounds and it might just need a very detailed description in the prompt of all background details.
The worst part of dataset prep is prunning out the duplicates because the artist felt the urge to repost their own work a dozen times.
https://youtu.be/PJnTcVOqJCM?t=603what's cool is that it's keeping the face's consistency during the whole scene
>>107754639trying to recreate for testingt. vramlet
undervolting is so effective damn. half tdp, fully silent. pretty sure the speeds are +/- the same too but would need to actually monitor for that after doing a comfy reboot on same sneed
>>107756467what gpu anon?
>>107756298You say this but people forget e.g. how much easier it was to prompt Chroma Flash than Chroma. If you had only tried Flash and naively assumed Chroma would just be a better version, you'd be wrong. It is better, sure, but it's different, and doesn't have all the same strengths. I fully expect a lot of anons will find Z-Image base disappointing if it ever releases.
>>107756428just... nvm.
>>107756467I tried undervolting but it crashed on ComfyUi (worked fine on demanding games like Clair Obscur though)
my ZIT doesn't look as good as yours guys. is it because i use the nunchaku thingy?also this is caucasian according to zit
>>107756245lol
>>107756522>is it because i use the nunchaku thingy?omg remove that shit anon, it looks terrible with nunchaku, come on you can't run that small model on Q8 or something?
>>107756410Yes it's the description. That one for instance is just ChatGPT slop "generate a list of scifi scenarios, one line each".ZIT requires you to write many details otherwise you get generic stuff.
Have the option of getting a cheap 3090. Would it be worth it or is it smarter to just buy a 5070ti?
>>107756556to play megabonk?
fuck Grok is really good... I mean it just spits out a ton of bondage images just from an oneliner prompt. I want that local
>>107756522>nunchakuyou'd have to be in a special kind of desperation to use that for such a small model, and while nunchaku is better than q4, it's still shit compared to fp16
>>107756556Depends, if you want to game too : 5070ti will be maintained longer. If you just want to gen, I'd go with the cheaper of the two.
>>107756522>>107756540user a bigger quand and offload with MultiGPUhttps://github.com/pollockjj/ComfyUI-MultiGPU
>>107756568>>107756595I play games too, but not really a grafix guy. I'm assuming the 5070 would output faster than the 3090 for image and video.?
who uses ZIT with pinokio and can tell me how to hires fix?
>>107756522Don't use nunchaku. I have 16GBVRAM and can run Z image in BF16 well.
>>107756540>>107756584chatgpt told me to use that for my 8gb vram. probably some bullshit
>>107756556say the pricesin terms of gaymen power theyre the same card. 3090 consumes twice as much, but you are getting extra 8gb vram
>>107756659yes
>>107756689600usd for the 3090, 700usd for the 5070ti.
>>107756698that guy is jewing you up
>>107756689Unsloth has quants.https://huggingface.co/unsloth/Z-Image-Turbo-GGUF
>>107756680use the thinking model, ask for sources, and always challenge it otherwise it will tell you bullshit yestry zimage fp8 and swap blocks until you don't oom (assuming you have enough sys ram)
>>107756680>>107756707I mean him
Protip : Use Photoshop
>>107756698go for the 5070ti
>>107756689>>107756680Q8 + offload a bit to the cpu, it's the closest quality to bf16 >>107756603
>>107754745explain
>>107755226>3090 cannot do fp8So what is happening when I run an fp8 model on my 3090 ti?
why cant i go higher than 1080p in Pinokio for ZIT goddammit
>>107755226>the 3090 cannot do fp8what? I have a 3090 and I can run fp8 just fine, are you talking about the speed or something?
>>107756717>>107756718Thanks for the help anons. I'll get that and some more ram. 64gb will probably do me fine.
>>107756769btw i double checked the benchmarks and the 3090 is beaten by the *base* 5070 which retails for less than 500 bucks. 600 would have been an insane price to pay for a 3090 for the little vram premium on such an old card
>>107754397>no i2vbetter luck next time, chud
>>107756745>>107756757It can run it but it computes it at fp16/bf16 speeds, not fp8. This is why fp8 is so much faster on 4090/5090.
>>107756718People keep posting this fucking image like it's gospel. It is old and outdated and made using flux 1.Newer mixed precision fp8 quants are much better than pure fp8 but still just as fast. They are very close to fp16. I use them for everything I can't run at full precision. The tiniest, almost imperceptible quality boost of q8 isn't worth the speed penalty of having to dequant every weight on the fly during inference. With loras it gets even slower because lora weights aren't merged into the main weights when using GGUF.It also depends a lot on the model. Flux 2 is so large, that q4_k_m is hard to tell from q8, and allows that model to run on 64gb RAM + 24GB VRAM without having to use --cache-none.
>>107756796>Newer mixed precision fp8 quants are much better than pure fp8 but still just as fast.prove it
>>107756796this.I was using Q_8 with WAN and changed to fp8 recently and holy shit the speed and memory management in fp8 is so much better, quants are a pain in the ass to load and generally slower too, same with qwen-edit
>>107756796>Newer mixed precision fp8 quants are much better than pure fp8 but still just as fast. They are very close to fp16. I use them for everything I can't run at full precision. The tiniest, almost imperceptible quality boost of q8 isn't worth the speed penalty of having to dequant every weight on the fly during inference. With loras it gets even slower because lora weights aren't merged into the main weights when using GGUF.Interesting, especially the lora thing, I'm gonna test that, since I use a lot of lora with wan and qwen, having it dequantize every step sounds like very bad speed wise.
>>107754390What is the detailer node you are using? Got a catbox?
>>107756796>mixed precision fp8what is the name of these? "fp8 scaled"?
RTX 5070ti super 24gb at CES
can this thing run z-image-turbo?
>>107756870>24 TOPSNo.
>>107756883Maybe it can do it slowly
>>107756897That's what she said
>>107756897Anon, no. Not because it's not on the list, but because of what is.
>>107756870>8GB DDR4My sides
flux, flux2, zit, qwen, they all give you mangled, body horror pussies. Even with loras, you're not getting something realistic and convincing. The only models that deliver are still bigasp and its merges, maybe chroma too but it's hit or miss. It's very frustrating
>>107756935I guess you mean realistic stuff. For 2D at this point I think lewd 1girl is practically a solved problem with illustrious.
>>107756935Illustrious and Pony are pretty capable for puss too.When it comes to nsfw waifus you can't get far without the SDXL line.
>>107756917SD1.5 might be enough. What do you mean "because of what it is"? If the model fits in the RAM, it should work, no?>>107756930It's made for edge devices. I'm just trying to see if I can push it to do other things.
>>107755060>pixel layer watermark >can survive screenshot, resize, reencode, compressionspoopy. I bet comfyui does this irregardless of model
why is heun so fucking slow?!AAAUAAuaaauaUGGHHHHhI'm gonna HEUUUUUUUUUUUN!!!!
>>107756870Oh I thought this was a gen of a fake chip KEK
is it realistic to expect local models to act like online models where you just say>make her wear a bikiniin the near future?
>>107757030Qwen already does but ask the person in the picture before doing so
>>107757030No, that would be unsafe.
>>107756935Seeing redditors have violent fits over Chroma is entertaining when it comes up. I can't blame them because there's zero meaningful documentation, but them prompting "awesome, big boob, woman hot" is chefs kiss.
>>107757030>make her wear a bikinithat's illegal bro
>>107757110>violent fits over Chromawhy?
>>10775711799% of them are civit proles that can only type in the same 4 tags into a prompt window. They haven't figured out language prompting yet but maybe someday.
>>107757137there is no better site for LoRAs than civit
>>107757030That's how Qwen Edit works already. In the near future people are waiting for Z-Image edit which will probably do it better.
>>107755199really nice! how are you making these?
>>107756935How are you forgetting Wan?
>>107757044>>107757153>Qwennice good to know
>>107757153oh yes this in Z image edit with proper skin texture.
when ready>>107757207>>107757207>>107757207
>>107757153You edited the bikini onto her just for the blue board, correct?
>>107756713no
>>107757187Boomer prompting and img2img. ...
>>107756831>what is the name of these? "fp8 scaled"?i think also "fp8 mixed"
>>107755159It's obsfuscating my actual fetishes, but the poses and concepts are pieces. Since I know wan 2.2 doesn't do full body couple porn well, I just go for general ideas that would be necessary for the porn were it to be capable. Of it can't to any of those things, it's useless to me. I only use AI to make shit that otherwise doesn't exist IRL.
>>107756796>>107756831>>107757389>miniscule quality increasefp8 scaled is 5x worse than Q8_0 GGUF. We don't talk about normal fp8. Getting tired of reposting this too. I'm assuming you're the same guy who I posted this rentry to last time as wellrentry.org/QUANTIZATION_ANALYSISI'm mostly fighting this fight about text encoders though. Arguments can be made for having e.g wan loaded in fp8 scaled but if you recommend sometime to use the text encoder in anything other then fp16 with --fast or Q8_0 you're trollingIf you mean something other than fp8 scaled when you say "mixed precision fp8" I would be interested in being spoonfed more
>>107756680i'm using fp16 on an 8gb card just fine
>>107756311I would kill to be able to output 1080p video.
>>107755294It almost sounds like "we know it was fucked up and we learnt from it." I expected much less.
