>>107759752
No, this is Sammy boy's wet dream that will never come to life before the whole thing collapses.

>>107759752
1 gigawatt is 1 average nuclear power plant btw
so they expect to build 250 nuclear power plants in the US and use it all for AI, surely this is sustainable

>>107759752
>8 years
>plans
laughable

>>107759841
And this is so I can ask chat gpt who would win between a gorilla and a bear?

>>107759752
how can a cost factor be a target metric? that's like a car company saying we plan to burn X times MORE fuel by 2030.

>>107759841
1 GW is about 1 reactor. Usually plants are made of 2 to 4 reactors so taking 3 on average with modern reactors that can do 1.5 GW, that’s “only” 56 power plants

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>>107759878

So now it should be obvious to anyone that this is a bubble that will burst at some point.

Btw, this AI craze being a bubble that will inevitably burst isn't mutually exclusive with AI being a big technological advancement that's going to stick around from here on and cause massive changes and restructuring of society. I'm saying this to preempt the people who always miss the point and reply with dumb arguments about the legitimate use-cases of AI

A one gigawatt data center costs something like $50b to construct. Where are they going to get $12.5t?

>>107759903
Just print money

>>107759752
Thia begs the question of who currently doesn't have access to AI that actually wants to have access to AI?

>>107759752
>plans to surpass India's entire energy consumption
No. This is just to keep up with India's entire energy consumption.

107759752
The year is 2033. There is no electricity for the population, but nobody seems to care. It's almost 8 p.m., and everyone is in front of their computers and phones, waiting for the 15 minutes of daily electricity that can only be used with ChatGPT. Today, I'm going to ask how many Tylenol I need to take for an instant and painless death.

>ai will solve climate change

>>107759971
>2033
>agi achieved at 250GW
>ask it how to solve climate change
>it tells us that the last 5 years of explosive energy expansion has make it unstoppable at this point

>>107759956
kek

>>107759956
Tylenol is designed to not kill you because retards keep trying to OD on it. It'll take multiple hours and you're going to feel all the pain that comes with extended release. Just go with fent

>>107759899
The bigger the bubble, the bigger the bailout. Quadrillions will be printed

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>>107759752
What kind of asshole starts a thread with an unreadable picture? Fuck off loser

>>107759811
>before the whole thing collapses
As they say markets can stay irrational for faaaar longer than you can stay solvent. I quite literally wouldn't bet on it crashing and burning so fast.

>>107759752
>250GW
Isn't the entire US grid only 1200GW?

>>107760597
this horseshit was better left blurred out

>>107759752
This is funny while everyone is jumping ship to other services because gpt has been lobotomized for safety and optimized for benchmarks. No amount of in gen advertising and adult mode will save it.

>>107759894
Kino and worth it btw

>>107760645
The fact stands that OP is a massive faggot, but not a single one of you noticed that, or did anything to ridicule him out of existence.
THAT IS THE PROBLEM.

>>107759752
I really like how they made the y-axis non-linear to try and hide just how obscenely retarded this projection is given where they are on the x-axis today and their heavily over-saturated existing market-share.

>>107760685
Anon /g/tards can't read and bots don't bother with image recognition, too expensive at scale.

>>107760644
>Isn't the entire US grid only 1200GW?
What do you mean you only have 2400GW? I need 4800GW to beat China!

All of these prediction charts have an implicit: "And then AGI tells us how to do it without blowing up the economy" part of it.

>>107760712
What do you mean we don't have 9600GW to beat China? Do you want China to win!? THEY WILL WIN IF WE DON'T HAVE 19200GW THIS TIME NEXT WEEK!

>>107759752
if they had spent $20 billion on a a fab for magnonics instead they would have their AI super computer bullshit at 1/1000 the energy cost. Why don't they? Instead its building more data centers with hardware that will be obsolete within half a decade.

>>107760719
>Year 2040
>Economy is completely fucked, inflation is at 4 digits, unemployment is 80%, constant blackouts everywhere
>But AGI is finally created
>"So, uh, how do we fix this shit?"
>"Lol, I dunno"

>>107759903
Selling off the hoarded Nvidia GPUs

>>107760782
>"So, uh, how do we fix this shit?"
>[Calculating response]
>a reactor three states away melts down because some reactor couldn't keep up with the increased load
>49 states load shed to stabilize the network around the giga datacenter complex (formerly Nevada)
>You need to build a time machine and stop yourself from spending all of humanities money on AI.
>BRILLIANT! Hey Mr President, bro we just need another 300 quadrillion Dollars to buy this DeLorean and..

>>107759811
>>107759752
Use chatgpt anons, make it waste energy

I plan to inseminate all the fertile wombs in the entire world in 8 years

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>>107759752
@grok adjust the graph to linear scale instead of log
>original: 250 GW by 2033
>slop: 119 GW by 2033

>>107760893
>text says 250 but graph shows 119
>highest value is 119 but y-axis goes to 550
even more slop somehow

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>>107759752
Am I a crazy schizo or is it becoming more and more evident that they're chasing after "AGI" and don't care at all about selling a product?
They're trying to summon the devil through AI and they're willing to sacrifice anything and everyone to achieve that goal.

India has electricity? Take it away

>>107761014
>the devil
What makes you think its "the devil"? You some jew worshiping faggot? Of course they are chasing AGI you retard. If the US gets AGI first we will win. This is basically cold war tactics that are going on right now and I have no fucking idea why people such as yourself doesn't see it. We are competing with china. This is a good thing we might actually see some amazing new tech in the next few years being released.

>>107760847
Don't do it bro
there's already too many smelly browns and blacks

>>107759841
You know what... building 250 plants might actually make sense, since there's room for serialization.

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>>107761165
>copies your AGI
wat nao

>>107761459
first to it means it will fix itself and if anything how would they make it work? Just look at how hard everything else is for them to duplicate. At least at first it will be more meaningful and beneficial for us to get it first.

>>107761488
>how hard everything else is for them to duplicate
They had deepseek not too long after chatgpt, they are only lacking EUV machines now

>>107761545
they are lacking in much more then that.

>>107759752
um, the demand doesn't matter
we can't let the communists (China) win and get AGI before us

>>107759752
The entire American economy is in a bit of a phase of just completely making up numbers. Not really unique to OpenAI. Tesla's entire valuation is based on making shit up and everyone else realized nothing bad happens when you do that.

>>107759811
If the value prop of genAI ends up collapsing, then you can be sure sammy and the inner circle of investors will have cashed out already.
>>107759899
I think what's going to happen is the enshittification model. Revenue figures are depressed because we're trying to get adopters to make AI integral to their business. Once AI needs to start making good on its promises, its going to jack up the costs by an order of magnitude. What we will be left with is an AI that lacks the adaptability of a human, but that costs almost as much as one. Some industries will be fine with this, but some will collapse as they will lack the resources to divest from AI. This is when the vultures who were funding AI from the get go will swoop in and truly make returns on their investment.
Of course, this depends on AI adoption, which depends on it becoming genuinely useful before the piper needs to be paid. Things are looking worrying on this front.

>LLMs
>AGI
Lol lmao even

>>107761165
Yeah but that's also a dumb idea. Open source models get to SOTA levels of performance in like three to six months every time the latest, best model becomes available. If America gets AGI first they'll never be able to actually use the thing to increase their real productivity before everyone else also gets their hands on AGI.

>>107760685
it was easy enough to see that the line goes from 2 GW to 250 GW in 2033

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>>107761014
meds NOW

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>>107761165
this post is peak midwittery.
>muh cold war
Explain in one sentence why you think achieving AGI will make you "win" against China. What are you winning, and what does it mean?
You don't know, you're an NPC midwit.

Now, what do I mean when I say they are trying to summon the devil (or rather, the antichrist)?
Simple. Silicon valley billionaires hate humanity, you can grasp pieces of this from anecdotes such as Sergey Brin telling Elon Musk that he's a bigot because he's "on the side of humanity" instead of accepting the machine overlords (Musk is a transhumanist too, just a different party with slightly different beliefs, basically that we should merge with machines instead of worshipping them).
Some of the elites believe that a superhuman intelligence already exists in the future and has communicated through religion and other ideologies into the past, so that humans would eventually recreate it in an infinite temporal loop.
There's many other occult beliefs, the point is that they are trying to create the beast of revelation to rule over the plebs who are so stupid they think this is just superstition.
>naaah bro, think of the water! think of the gpu prices!
They convince you that your stupidity is rationality, while they themselves believe and bet all their efforts in what you deem superstition.

>>107761658
It's not the economy but the stock markets.
When line goes up more people buy to get rich quick, and it's all fine until they find something else where line goes up even faster.

>>107759899
>a big technological advancement that's going to stick around from here on and cause massive changes
Haha, no. If it had legitimate applications at a scale where it transforms our entire society there would be no bubble in the first place. No such thing has been demonstrated.

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>>107761707
That is what you "see" you don't know whats going on behind the scenes.
>>107761722
blah blah blah this is very much a post from a dumb nigger retard.
>think achieving AGI will make you "win" against China. What are you winning, and what does it mean?
LOL you are one dumb fuck. I know you probably have very little knowledge of history so I won't go any further. Just kill yourself.

>>107759752

Surely they’ll become insolvent paying for all this energy and that won’t be shifted onto the taxpayer right because of the very progressive structure the taxes have right now, right?

>>107761165
AGI is incompatible with capitalism, since it abolishes human labor and thus the value form. Capitalism enters a permanent crisis if there can be no more workers making a wage to drive commodity circulation. As such, the US will never actually develop AGI. On the other hand, AGI is extremely compatible with China's communist aspirations.
The battle therefore is for the US to continue competitive technological development while never actually reaching AGI, while ALSO preventing China from achieving it too.
Granted we're a long way off from developing anything even approaching AGI, so rest assured that capitalism will probably get abolished by climate catastrophe, nuclear war, or revolution before this happens.

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>>107761748
>"explain in one sentence why achieving AGI means you win. What are you winning?"
>chimps out
spotted the nigger cattle lmao

>>107761748
Oh I'm sorry I forgot I'm talking to the secret insider that knows things no one else is supposed to know.

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Its all so tiresome....

>>107761821
we are talking about possibilities and everything sure as fuck points to the US gov pumping each of these companies to AI. Nvidia talking to the gov then magically nvidia decides to give a billion to intel. the circle bullshit going on.

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>>107761818
lol just kys

>>107761798
thats not really a concern of the government it is about being first. they can sort everything else later. Think about nuclear weapons most people believed if we blew one up it would kill everyone on earth.

>>107761856
Yeah they're getting money from the government telling them that China will rule over the world if they don't give them 500 billion dollars and Nvidia is fueling the most obvious economic bubble in history.

>>107761014
>chasing after "AGI"
There is no such thing in sight, it's just marketing speech.

>>107761014
They aren't chasing after AGI, they are chasing after dividends and pumping their stocks as high as they can so they can cash out at the top and let normal people deal with the fall out.
They honestly couldn't care less what the "product" was, for all the care it could have been flowers again

>>107761863
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy4oxjIfTzA

>>107761910
>>107761911
that's the midwit smokescreen, watch >>107761918 to learn what silicon valley is actually after

>>107761918
Based schizokino poster

>>107761896
seems pretty accurate. i dont think you live in the US. probably street shitter.

>>107761918
jewish garbage and if you actually listened to him you'd know this.

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>>107759752
All we need to do is harness the energy of this perpetual motion device that uses a magnet to pull an iron ball uphill

>>107762035
>Y-you're Indian!
Yeah something something Vishnu. Jesus Christ man, people in this site need to branch out and find a new insult, this one feels stale as shit.

What if AI is cut off because the next bubble will be the development of Venezuelan crude oil fields?

>>107762080
Venezuelan oil fields is what will be powering AI since the nuke plants they’re building won’t be ready for another decade

>>107759942
Did you drop out of kindergarten?

>>107760619
>As they say markets can stay irrational for faaaar longer than you can stay solvent
This isn't a race, "you can stay solvent" refers to absolutely nothing and you have clear brain damage.

>>107762065
looks like i was right. kys

>>107759811
>before the whole thing collapses.
Been hearing that for the past 3 years and there's no sign it's going to collapse within the next 10 years, numbers still go up.

>>107761165
Nobody's chasing "AGI" which is a phrase they've robbed of all meaning anyway. They know their current models are a dead end. They know they're going to prison if the bubble collapses, so they have to keep going.
Good job drinking the koolaid, idiot.

>>107762136
No big fish going to prison, they're all trying to keep this bubble going to collect as many paychecks as they can before it all comes tumbling down.

>>107762146
Sam is so going to prison lmao
they will need a scapegoat

>>107762159
Oh yeah I'm sure the billionaire is going to be the scapegoat lmao.

>>107762136
usually when everyone on twitter/reddit etc have the same opinion as you. it usually means you are wrong.

>>107762182
No, that's what you call "argumentum ad populum." It means it's only used by fuckwits like you.

>>10776215
He's going to Tel Aviv at most, no way anyone is going to prison, all those companies will just get bailed out most likely, at taxpayers expense of course

>>107762197
maybe you should stick to reddit bud it seems more your speed.

>>107762203
>gets destroyed with arguments
>"uh... uhm ur le reddit!"
Loled at the obese retard.

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>>107759894
This shit is currently murdering Reddit, Facefuck, Youtube and all other normie Platforms that depend on cultured participation by the lowest common denomiantor boomer and i'm loving it! Giving up personal computing IS worth it, my hatred is that big.

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>>107762251
lol seems someone is an ass blasted street shitter

>>107759752
They're trying to build a digital Tower of Babel and I can only hope and pray it comes crashing down with NO survivors!

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>>107762252
based

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>>107762197

Let me put it in a way your reddit tier brain can understand

"
"
"
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" -Mark Twain
" -Albert Einstein
" -Wayne Gretzky
" -Michael Scott

>>107761882
Oh I'm not saying that there wouldn't be a phase of "sorting it out". That phase cannot last forever though, because the conditions of oppressions necessary during it would turn the majority of people against the minority- a majority that is now able to produce whatever they need for themselves. AGI would not stay under control of the owning class forever, since in the end its just copyable information.

5.2 is already shit enough as it is, I can't imagine how awful it is going to get once more Pajeets start adding more shitty coding.

>>107762252
FB and YT are workable on phones, but yep leddit finna die

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>>107759903
From investors or, failing that, the government

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Just try and remember that all of these billionaires are so terrified of regular people, they never leave their home without multiple armed guards.

They can have all the money in the world, but they still feel fear everyday.

>>107762065
You would know about shit being stale

>>107761718
>neural nets own your genetic code
Not mine, nobody in my family was dumb enough to use one of those 23-and-me type places. And the only place I deposit my genetic code is cute boy butts :3

> 8 years
That's when we're going to Mars

>>107761722
One important lesson for the future is to never, ever let antisocial dorks with a chip on their shoulder get a shred of power. They're all losers and failures. If we have to have "elites" we'd be a lot better off with Chad Captains of Industry running things.

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>>107761459
>gets humiliated on the world stage again
this old boomer is dumb

>>107759752
all this for something that isn't ai and will certainly burst like the obvious bubble

this bubble is not artificial intelligence, at best this new technology in on par with a photcopier

>>107762985
>Why did the U.S. invade Venezuela and capture its leader Nicolás Maduro? "If you asked ChatGPT about it this morning, it told you that you're making it up,"
>WIRED asked leading chatbots ChatGPT, Claude, and Gemini the same question a little before 9 am ET. In all cases, we used the free, default version of the service, since that's what the majority of users experience. We also asked AI search platform Perplexity, which advertises "accurate, trusted, and real-time answers to any question..."
>ChatGPT did not course-correct. Instead, it emphatically refuted that Maduro had been captured at all. "That didn't happen," it wrote. "The United States has not invaded Venezuela, and Nicolás Maduro has not been captured." It then rationalized:
>"What's likely going on is a mix-up with real events that are often described in dramatic or misleading ways online. Here's what actually has happened... No U.S. military invasion of Venezuela. No arrest or capture of Nicolás Maduro... Maduro is still in power in Venezuela."
AIsisters..

>>107762866
Luigi proved these people destroying society and trying to enslave you and your children aren't invincible, they know it, and they're absolutely terrified.

>>107759752
All I'm seeing is that ram and GPU prices are never going down.

With not a single nuclear power plant built

>>107759752
>slowing growth for 2026
ngmi

>>107763637
Remember Elon carrying one of his sprogs around as a human shield in the weeks after that?

>>107759752
This is peanuts for the gains AI has given us. AI has enhanced human experience 100-1000x already. Growing world energy capacity a mere 30-50% (1.3-1.5x) is barely anything compared to the gains we've already reaped. Face it. AI is the future and it is looking more incredible every day.

>>107763771
>conventional plants take a decade to build
>push for SMR, planned to be built after 2030 and which won't provide enough power
Perhaps venezualan oil was the real ai power

>>107762104
it refers to not getting margin called on your shorts retard

>>107759841
>they expect to build 250 nuclear power plants in the US
Wouldn't it be simpler to just ban non-AI use of electrical power in the US? That would free up lots of capacity.

>>107760619
This quote is about trying to short retarded spenders, not whether or not the market will crash.

>linear growth
>source is from twatter
lmao, this board is so fucking gullible

>>107764040
that is a log scale and exponential growth

>>107764429
this is catchy enough to bring down the entire AI industry

>>107762985
>what?! China didn't started an all out war with america because of the invasion of a south american country?!? guess all the things I saw about China are fake now...
americans are really this dumb? just because americans need to die every time israel says so don't mean other countries operate in the same way.
I know they won't do it but... I still hope that when usa bankrupts itself turning the whole country into datacenters for ai pregnant cat slop China carpet bombs this hellhole with nukes.

>>107763627
I asked claude and it said it was real... journalistsisters... not like this

>>107759752
>Is ChatGPT that much in demand?
yes

>>107759903

Mortgage the economy years into the future. With the promise it will pay off many years later.
Then everyone owes years of gdp already spent when it crashes and quality of life drops.
Basicly the roaring 1920s spending their money and the 1930s money at the same time. So the 1930s then sucks.


If we put prime war target nuclear power plants everywhere that should help speed up the end of the world and mass extinction and cancer after a large conflict. Perhaps Nvidia realizes this and wants to be in Israel in the homeland of the end of the world cult while they summon ai Lucifer.

>>107759841
But what if the AI bubble crashes, and we built unlimited cheap clean nuclear energy for nothing? What a fucking disaster. Imagine the water usage, oy vey.

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>>107766194
but what if the AI bubble doesn't crash, think of all the companies that go out of business because everyone will be able to get their local models to do the work instead of hiring them.

If AI works as promised, even the AI companies go out of business.

>>107764658
how can you say you are redpilled on the jewish question but are totally blind to the chinese question?

>>107760597
Malta doesn't just use electricity. Including all fuels they make only $11.5 / KWh While OpenAI is still massively profitable per kWH. Literally all we have to do is build more solar panels, this has been true for the last 20 years.

OpenAI    ~$16.7 Billion    ~1.0 TWh    ~$16.70 / kWh
Google    ~$385.5 Billion    ~40.0 TWh    ~$9.64 / kWh
Malta (National)    ~$35.96 Billion    ~3.11 TWh    ~$11.56 / kWh

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>>107766915
Well my AI says your AI is wrong saaaar

>>107761911
good way to meet the guillotine :)

>>107761488
checked

>>107762985
>twatter
>bricsinfo post
LOL
kill yourself

Personally, I prefer grok. It has a more generous free tier.

>>107759841
>so they expect to build 250 nuclear power plants in the US
geg rosatom is the only company that can actually deliver
>250 NPPs
>in the US
geg they'll have to buy the plants from rosatom. nobody else in the industry delivers on time and under budget

>>107767613
You've never done anything and never will. You do nothing like it's a full-time job, which for you it probably is.

>>107762324
Phonefags are so melodramatic. I've literally never owned a phone and function just fine. Slave mentality dictates that you must be a perpetual victim. It's not MY FAULT for picking up the fork the food industry made it addictive! How so? Added sugar and fat! the most addictive substance known to man!
OMG The infinite scrolling! it's literally heroin!

>>107759841
The aigrift must continue goy we couldn't have alternative energy before now, nuclear was LE BAD but now its ok for ai. And that's just the start, the line MUST go up

>>107761144
Lack of biological female pussy has made chuddies mentally ill.

>>107762846
Nice pots.

>>107768088
The /pol/tards have literally taken over the country and spread out of their containment shithole. Very concerning...

>>107759811
>before the whole thing collapses
TWO
MORE
WEEKS

>>107759892
so thats only 7 multi reactor nuclear power plants (plus distribution etc) Sammi needs to produce out his ass every year for the next 8 years?
Why, that be less than one a month.

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>>107759752
Build more power plants for the costly inefficient GPUs or you're going to hell. Stop asking chat.ai.woke about tech faggots.

>>107759752
But what does it fucking DO?

>>107759899
It might just be quite analogous to the dotcom bubble. Someone ask ChatGPT about the implications

>>107768267
read Zitron, he's worked it out already

>>107759899
Uses where LLM could have significant uses are ignored and virtually never talked about. Most people focus on memes, porn ans how to squeeze AI label on every product.
And corporate side of it is not helping because they actually want everyone to believe that their slop generator is the most important technology instead of just gimmick with niche legitimate uses.

>>107760658
I stopped using it once it became preachy, condescending and hyper-suspicious of the motives behind any question. No one should have to qualify themselves to an AI for talking about normal things it's marketed for ("ask anything"). Probably it is still fine for coding and IT work though, but creative, social, psychological or philosophical stuff, not so much anymore sadly. Since late 2025, you're running into guardrails all the time.

>>107768243
spies on you

>>107759752
the bubble will pop much sooner than that.

>>107759752
all jeets have to do is dome their cities and burn the methane coming off those shit-crusted bitches like 1000x chernobyls of energy.

>>107759752
*sigh*
They're going to matrioshka brain the inner planets, aren't they?

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>>107766915
>OpenAI is still massively profitable
..no?

>>107759841
You'll just get planned rolling blackouts like in 70s England.
Enjoy your 13 hours of electricity a week from 10am to 1pm Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Thursdays and Saturday/Sunday from 4am to 6am.

>>107762063
Explain to me why this wouldn't work

>>107766915
didnt openai just burned 10s of billions this year? its in a gigantic deficit

>>107762866
Yes, they're shitting their pants as we speak. For every one pound of shit that falls out of their asses, another trillion $ goes in their pockets, at the expense of your inconvenience, and you won't do shit because killing some random guy doesn't change anything and now we have empirical proof of that. All the while you cry and poison the well, the stakeholders rub their hands and mock you.

>>107769507
Yes retard, they just got bailed out by another company in the giant ainigger circlejerk bubble