Looking for some advice, anons. I have some time on my hands so I thought I might learn web development. I quite like programming and I would like doing it as a job. What should I learn aside from the basics? I know JS and some Go but I mainly used them to write little tools for myself.

I know that the market is in bad shape and if I go in hoping for a high salary or being hired at all with just a React crud app under my belt I will probably be laughed at so I want to know what can I do to maybe, some time in the future, be hired.

Things may be bad right now but I assure you that being in the rat race for a tech job is leagues easier than doing a normal job in the position I'm currently in.

>>107760417
Maybe learn a frontend well (e.g., React, Vue) and some backend fundamentals, and build a few projects that people can actually use.

>>107760417
The market isn't just bad, it's catastrophic.

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I am still seething that I got asked a competitive programming level question on an amazon OA for a 3yoe position
Asking claude / chatgpt they both say that this problem is more in line with Codeforce 1/2 divisions or USACO gold / platinum

Just to give you an idea of what the problem entails, the solution involves:
>recursion
>recursive dynamic programming
>memoization
>interval dynamic programming
>prefix sums over an interval (optional, but the solution would almost certainly TLE without this)
If I could understand the problem, figure out a solution, and implement it all within 45 minutes I would be asking 500k/yr not $150k

>>107761740
Some jeet gave you that problem to filter you while also letting cheating pajeets to pass it.
Find his boss' name and report him, or the boss's boss name in case they are both jeets.

I couldn't be fucked going back to work tomorrow. I know I'm getting laid off in about a year anyway with the amount of jeet contractors they've been bringing on in the last 6 months.

>>107760417
PHP, jinja2 templates (if you like python)

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I DONT WANNA GO BACK

>>107762038
I'm going to be honest that is a terrible idea
I'm a junior / mid level dev with zero experience working in faang, it's completely probable that these questions are randomly selected from a pool of potential problems when I start the test. They send dozens if not hundreds of OAs like this out every week. The recruiter that sent me it sounds chinese, not indian.
And regardless stalking linkedIn to find out the organizational structure for amazon's HR team just to report whoever made the OA (which I have no idea how I would even find out) sounds like a great way to get blacklisted from the company forever.
I'm seething and expecting a rejection letter on monday, but the best thing I could logically do is move on and apply to other jobs.

>>107760318
Did picrel break up with his gf?

>>107762684
Break up?
They got married to cheat japanese immigration laws.

Four more week sand I'm done with this shit

>>107762697
She's real to me. And that's all that matters.

>>107762697
What happens after they get Japanese residency?

>>107760318
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAqbBr4hF38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAqbBr4hF38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAqbBr4hF38

>>107762909
>35yo
>has engineering degree
>has friends to meet up with and do fun things
>has gf
>side hustle brings in money to help his mom
This guy's just normal with a few mental health setbacks.

>>107762528
just gotta get through this week

how many /wfh/ chads in here? do you have a company provided laptop? how do you deal with potential spyware or prevent your teams icon from going yellow?

>>107763144
>do you have a company provided laptop?
Yes, and any company doing BYOD for WFH is retarded
>how do you deal with potential spyware
not my problem lol
>or prevent your teams icon from going yellow?
I jiggle the mouse/trackpad

>>107763144
>how many /wfh/ chads in here?
me
>do you have a company provided laptop?
yes
>how do you deal with potential spyware
On the company laptop? By not downloading stupid shit or going to shady websites
>prevent your teams icon from going yellow?
By doing my job, lol

>>107762528
I've been off work this entire week. I seriously don't want to go to work tomorrow. I have mountains of shit to do fuck

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https://data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/1926661#graph

SO questions asked per month. Presented without comment.

>>107763518
.... down to almost 0? is this fr?

>>107763603
You can go query the data yourself

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>>107763518
Good riddance.

The holiday break has reminded me how incredibly nice it is to not work. Going over my finances, I can afford to lose my income if I just downsize a few things I don't really care about, so I will be resigning this month to return to NEETdom. I'll miss you /twg/!

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when does stuff stop randomly breaking

>>107763953
The second you delete it all

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>>107763966
i am referring to hardware thoughbeit

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>>107763688
They're about to ramp up inflation anyways so assets are going notably higher in the late 2020's.

Is it easier to develop a profitable app as a solo developer or would I be better off getting contracts from businesses to write software for them?

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i dont see the point in anything

How do I learn langchain?

>>107760318
Anybody here self-employed or have their own tech business?

I’ve been running my side business doing bigger freelance work with contractors I hire, but it seems like those outsourced workers are just using AI nowadays. I’d like to replace them with AI myself but it’s hard to switch mental contexts for each project. Claude occasionally gets out of hand and changes quality standards hourly, no idea on how to rein it in with tests or Jira tickets. Ideally i would love it if my business could just make subscription revenue to get away from the hourly slog.

I like Rails because it’s run by a white conservative European man who actively speaks out against mass immigration. What drew you to your given tech stack, anon?

can someone bake a utwg thread

>>107764813
Hire a few skilled developers to supervise the bots.

>>107764813
>how do I replace a glorified printer with real people?
Seems trivial.

>>107763518
What caused the decline from 2017 to 2022?

man i just dont have any drive this year, how the hell do people get their motivation and morale back?

>>107766107
Stop working for a soul crushing enterprise and go work for a heckin quirky chungus startup. I’m serious.

I do not not not not want to go to work tomorow ahhhhhhhh holidays were so good I don't want to go back to this jeeted to hell horrorjob

Going back to work tomorrow after these last couple fake weeks is going to be genuinely fucked up. I feel sick thinking about all the shit im gonna have to deal with this week.


At least I don’t have to go into the office:)

>>107766131
that's if anyone was fucking hiring. you could get a baby to do my last two jobs and yet people got fired for not meeting expectations but trying to find another job is so fucking annoying. feels like I gotta grift but at the same point I have no really drive to grift anymore. maybe I should just get AI to do my job right now. just prompt everything my boss asks me and get it to just tell me what to do kek. sorry i drank a bit so im ranting lol

>>107764019
Cool, that'll be good for my portfolio.

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How's your LinkedIn looking?

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>>107762684
>>107762697
>>107762795
I want to do this too
Please teach me how to become a cute anime girl and move to Japan to live my cute anime girl fantasy as a cool programmer and hacker, hector-sama

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@Grok is this true? All the inflooncers on twitter have been losing their shit over claude code the past few days.

Are non-technical people saying they are building projects with LLMs on twitter real or just shills? Every single person hyping shit up have a financial motivation to shill AI, meanwhile I keep struggling getting agents to do what I want and not going full retard.

>>107766704
They're shills

do you think much about the value of your time?
ever since christmas I've been thinking about how much time it takes to cook food. cooking food is work and i'd rather use that time doing other stuff. it's probably a net negative to cook food compared to getting food delivered.

>>107767190
If the food you got delivered was the same quality as what you can make it home, they could be compared like that. But if you always get food delivered you will definitely get fat and develop health issues because of the shortcuts that uncaring at-scale food makers are incentivized to take. You don't unlock "staying healthy without needing to spend time cooking" until you have private chef money.

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Explains a lot

>>107767190
30 minutes to make perfect rice in a pot without needing to watch it
3 minutes to make sunny side up eggs
15 seconds to throw salt, pepper, and chili oil over it.

Stop being a sack of shite

>>107763144
>do you have a company provided laptop?
Yep
>how do you deal with potential spyware
Stopped caring a long time ago
>prevent your teams icon from going yellow?
Wiggle the trackpad every few minutes, open it on my phone if I'm afk

>>107767611
This is based when White NEETs do it.

>>107767190
Based and Andrew Tate pilled

You can have the most "aligned" group of kindergartners in history they will never outperform a 2 incompetent programmers, let alone a single competent one. Purity spiraling idiots will never understand this until it's way too late.

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just learn prompt engineering.

>>107767711
How good at prompt engineering do I have to be to compete with early 90s animation? Let alone animation from 2026

https://youtu.be/Vi5cqfvghNs?t=295

>>107767190
Cooking is based though. It's relaxing and really high value i you cook healthy dishes.
Plus don't pretend like cooking is your main time waster. It's probably shitposting on /g/ and watching youtube shorts.

>>107766281
it's stale. I can't find content where I would want to add it to my activity wall, everything is so fake and it's low value bait by non technical retards.

>degrees are a scam
>every certification is a scam
>experience is impossible to get cause nobody will hire you
What the fuck am I supposed to do?

>>107768006
>>every certification is a scam
it's not, depends on what certs
>What the fuck am I supposed to do?
start new /utwg/ thread

I don't get tech workers
Either you can program, so just write a program and sell it
Or you can't, so you shouldn't work in tech.

I DONT WANNA I DONT WANNA
not gonna do ANY work today fuck you

>>107768048
Okay
Which certs aren't a scam

graduated a year late in november 2024
still hasnt got a job since then
begged my parents for a security+ bootcamp back in early december last year and i understand jackshit
i say from 2026 onwards "fuck you formal employment"
these days you have better chances getting hired as a fucking content creator + graphic designer with AI sloppa
but i dont want to do that
i'll just run an art page or something and hoping it's good enough for a studio
maybe i'll just enter art / writing contest and make the project as my portfolio
i dont like IT or tech and i never will, might as well do this and go after what my aspirations is since primary school

i fucking hate it when a coworker acts like he came up with some shit when it's obviously AI generated

>>107768434
it was stack overflow generated before

>>107768470
they don't even bother to formulate it in their own words to at least prove that they understand what they're proposing, it's straight up copy paste
another one did some shit that an ounce of critical thinking would've prevented, how do i know he PROOOOMPTED and blindly followed what the AI said without thinking? god damn

>>107768368
Sounds like a post for /utwg/!!

Fuck it, I’m going to start working on a couple of my personal projects that I’ve shelved and see if I can make some money off of them. Probably won’t but I’ll at least learn something

Having to work after experiencing not working for 2 weeks is pure torture. And I have to do bullshit log browsing and creating tasks in jira.

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>havent drank yet this year (last 2 months of last year i didnt go a night without drinking)
>woke up at 3:30am
>made a cup of coffee
>made an omelet with diced onions, peppers and ground venison
>took my adderal
>unironically ready for everyone to be back from vacation so we can collaborate
>have a clear goal of what to work on
im locked in

>>107768558
i've a mind to call in sick for the week
i am acutely sick of working thank you

>>107768481
>>107768470
it was textbooks, papers, "expert opinion" before.

>>107768574
>>have a clear goal of what to work on
lucky bastard

>>107768574
>haven't drank ever
>wake up at 11:15 PM to go to shit overnight job
>drink water
>have a salad
>i don't get vacations or holidays off
>all i do at work is monitor garbage aka sit and do nothing
Kill me

>>107766107
drugs

>>107768574
this >>107768621
I've noticed I suffer the most when there is nothing to do, and I get assigned bullshit tasks that bring no value and have no clear goals

>>107768574
>took my adderall
Do americans really

You did wish happy new year to your manager, right anon?

>>107768683
I never see my manager

>>107763144
>company's laptop
is a right, not a privelege
>spyware
lol lmao even
>microslop teams
why torture yourself? get slack and slack
>going yellow
if your manager forces you to fill time sheets or provide any other measure of man hours spent, fuck them. I alone decide how much time the project will take and i rarely err by more than 30%.

>>107767991
>It's probably shitposting on /g/ and watching youtube shorts.
if i cooked less i could shitpost more

>>107763144
>going yellow?
if i hold down alt while teams/outlook is open, it stays active. i put a die on the alt key and then a bottle of melatonin on top of the die. then i go back to sleep for a couple hours.

>>107763144
I have a simple powershell script that quickly toggles caps lock every 4 minutes

>>107763144
>prevent your teams icon from going yellow?
no one has ever cared about this

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i've got a job right now which is probably 90% remote, and i do really like 8-10 total hours of work a week. but i only make like 100k and i can't go fully remote, because sometimes i have to be on call to come put out fires. and the area i'm in sucks and i hate it.
i'm 28 and this is my second job after college.
what do you think about this? i'm thinking about leaving. i want to make more money and i want to live somewhere nicer, doing something cooler. and i'm also worried that i'm kind of fucking myself by not being challenged for the past couple years.
how rare is this sort of job? i've started applying for new things but i'm also afraid that once i step away from this i'll really regret how much free time i have.

>>107768913
that's genius

>>107768868
>>spyware
>lol lmao even
what do you mean? at one of my past jobs I literally had remote desktop agent that allowed any admin to login into my computer and see what im doing
>>microslop teams
>why torture yourself? get slack and slack
I would but I dont choose the communication tools

>>107768868
>why torture yourself? get slack and slack
This, why don't you just change the communications suite of your entire corporation overnight and on a whim?

is it true u get fired if youre teams bubble is non-green for even 1 frame !?!?

>>107769022
Bubble must stay green
Mic stays on
Camera stays on

>got my first job on friday
>they give me a """laptop"""
>it's a fucking DELL
>winslop 11
>have to restart my laptop like 50 times for "updates"
>informed today at 6am sharp that I'm on PIP because my teams bubble wasn't green all friday
>try to explain that it was for updates
>they extend my pip by 6 months for "arguing"
>all this for 32k/yr
>they havent even paid me yet
I didn't get a degree from WGU to be treated this way.

>>107769061
I feel WGU should be used as a stepping stone to a masters

>>107768574
Great, you should post this on linkedin.

>>107768868
>if your manager forces you to fill time sheets
how do you put in vacation/sick days and actually have them tracked properly so they dont get stolen from you later

>>107760417
ask chat gpt it's very useful for getting you info about shit that's either hard to piece together or nobody wants to speak about
ask it what the top paying IT fields are, what tools are used therein, where's the money, and what is the cost of living like there, etc

>>107769245
IT and programming are not analogous

>company products don't even have cute mascots

>>107766107
Tech sector is still very lucrative but the 'low-hanging fruit' careers were picked clean decades ago. If you can find decent paying work in IT, use that money to get out of debt and to live within your means. The goal should be: land, wife, and kids. Lead a more rural life on a cityfag's income and you'll be pocketing huge difference, and you can use that to give your kids the leg up in life you never got.

Sadly, most of us will at most only be able to live that upper-class life vicariously through our kids. It's better than nothing I suppose.

>>107769349
I don't care about money but it genuinely just feels like there's no point in anything anymore. whole job is a shit, whole company is a shit, whole world is a shit.

Welcome back, my boys. I've been away for over 3 weeks. Went to Asia and spend hardly any time online. My eyesight improved, my eczema and acne went away, and I feel human.

I am returning to my wfh job feeling blessed. I can just coast in the slow lane and get paid handsomely. My goal is to not forget that. I lost my light and got too neurotic last year.

>>107769415
you went alone? what did you do?

>>107769424
Every ladyboy in the streets of Bangkok

>>107768982
>spyware, teams
never agree, block, uninstall, tell IT to fuck off

>>107769012
shut it, invasive mutt cuck

>>107769202
It's only a problem in an economic zone you call a country

>>107769280
>it's a company assistant product with the mascot of a generic simple face screen headed chibi robot that's also obviously AI generated
>every other company sector has their own
>bonus: their name is a shitty pun or word play
I don't even know why they bother at this point. One of the main purposes of a mascot is to be unique and recognizeable, while these little shits just blend together.

>>107769412
It's hopeless for those who not born into wealth or aren't naturally gifted savants. However it's not pointless. The majority of folk are mediocre but they can still get ahead by either being incredibly lucky or incredibly restraint; and once you're ahead, your family will benefit from that and strive further than you ever could. The point is to give your kids the opportunity of a lifetime: to live in the nicer areas, go to the nicer schools, and to explore their natural talents without letting work life depress it.

>>107769412
And now you know why fertility rates are taking a nose dive everywhere. Specially in dystopic shitholes like worst korea.

4 hours in and I'm ready to kill myself again.

Another brown female intern for the only woman in the office
Curious

Fuck it, I'm gonna study for SAA-C03 on company time

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>barely any women in my team
>we still have 10-20 minutes of talk during our team meetings about brainless mindless shit like house renovations and the kids
i thought you fuckers said this is only a female thing.

ok guys so obviously being a hard worker is not the way to greatness

but what about being so aggressive in acquiring new privileges and duties, establishing a persistent foothold of importance, how's that for a battle plan? when i make all my coworkers dependent on shit i made that they dont even understand surely that's how you can make it right

>>107770179
Bad idea. You'll be swamped with shit and still won't get recognition. The only way you can get ahead is to take ownership of everything and get shit done even if other people do the work.

>>107770164
Humiliation ritual for childless genetic dead ends

>new manager comes in
>wants to "fix" processes to make things "easier" immediately
a tale as old as time

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>>107762038
It’s jeets all the way up.

>>107760417
I'd say that your post is more suited for /utwg/ but they're so fucking retarded that they can't even make a new thread after the last one died lmfao

what companies can i work for if i want minimal jeets

>>107770634
i also would like to know the answer to this

>>107767190
Prepare food in advance.

>>107767190
for me it's something to do other than wallowing in misery and i can kind of make stuff that i find tasty now

>>107770634
Your own.

>messaged my boss that i'll be going for a doctor's appointment later this afternoon and will be back in an hour.
>they take like a good 5 mins to respond after they saw it
kek they think I'm interviewing. i'm way too burnt out for that lmao.

>jannies keep nuking utwg
fucking faggots

>>107770830
new general idea: /uu/ - unemployed and unable to create /utwg/ tech workers general

>>107768939
Leave. Give up the comfort and familiar for the opportunity. I wish I'd moved in my 20s and I regret not doing so. There will always be a job someplace, just move.

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Sysadmin here who wants to break into devops.
How risky would it be to lie and claim my current position is devops?

>>107770890
In this era it has become rather difficult to find a new job.

I just rm -rf *’d the wrong directory on the server, guys… where’s the undo button in the shell?
I just started this job so i kinda new

The only person who can decide what's best for you is you. I've also left jobs for opportunities and deeply regretted it.

Welcome back from vacation guys.
To celebrate Christmas we decided to make half the unit tests green and half the unit tests red.
I've taken the liberty of adding a task for you this sprint, you will be fixing it. Please finish by end of day.

Merry Christmas!

>guy in ops who wanted my job "mistakenly" terminates me so I'm locked out of everything
Lmao

another year of working for a microsoft distributor, let me tell you everything you assume about microsoft is wrong because it is actually worse.

>>107770961
But not impossible.

will this be the year i embark on a 2 year neeting and travelling journey? i'll ride this job out while staying as comfortable as i wanna be, if they fire me then so be it.

>got "needs improvement" in my yearly performance evaluation
so this is my notice to start looking for a new job, right?

>>107771114
who cares i got exceeds expectation and i didn't even get a bonus and my raise was like 2%

>>107771114
Not necessarily. Take note on what needs improvement, adjust accordingly, and you should be fine.

>>107771056
>let me tell you everything you assume about [company] is wrong because it is actually worse.
I'm sure this is true for every single company of institution.

>>107771138
Same. exceeds expectations, but I was given a 2.5% raise, when I'm already 25% under market average for my city.

i got no raise because company struggling lol
didn't even get perf reviews because they know i could ask for a lot more
it's all good tho i pay myself with free time

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>not even best buy geeksquad is hiring
its over

>>107768939
>90% remote
>i do really like 8-10 total hours of work a week
>i """""only"""""" make like 100k
You are an enormous, tremendous fucking retard if you leave that job

I experience this daily but I'm just wondering how to deal with it. I'm always looped into calls without context and it genuinely feels like they're just waiting for me to say something so they can pull a GOTCHA moment and then hold me to my word. A lot of things I "can" be doing but I don't know if I "should" be doing. It's pretty annoying. We do have SOPs and all that stuff but they always bring me into sticky scenarios instead of just emailing so I can check with my boss...

>>107771266
100k is average at best in america, dumb europoor

>>107771266
You think that's bad? I'm 100% remote making 200k and I'm about to quit because fuck working

>>107771309
100k is plenty anywhere in the US unless you live in some megacity shithole, I """"only"""" make 85k and it's plenty to live comfortably in a mid-sized city

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>no /utwg/ thread
Guess I'm hanging out with the employed chads today.

>mfw rto
>mfw craving a meatball sub
>instant regret and I should've just got turkey club instead
FUCK

>>107771000
Similar happened to me, I was supposed to be "locked" because I forgot some uncompleted compliance training, guy who manages it just fucking completely obliterated my shit as if it was a full termination.

He was let go a week later.

>>107765426
>>107770524
>>107771377
>/utwg/ regulars either too lazy to make a new thread, or _unable_ to make a new thread for one reason or another
This is why they're unemployed.

>>107771056
Where do I buy cheap w11 license that isn’t scammy?

I wish I was a NEET

>>107771405
two were made and the jannies deleted both. I guess we could just do our whining here?

>tfw no six figure WFH job where I can goon all day and feel important

>>107771433
Buy an education license off some college kid for $20

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born to code
forced to make big macs

>>107771261
>services nobody is using aren't hiring
amazing

>>107771329
nobody cares that you live in a flyover near nigs

>>107771702
YWNOAH

>>107771709
you have no mortgage, nigger

>>107771720
funny that you knew exactly what i meant, almost as if it lives rent free (unlike yourself kek) in your head

>>107771702
cities are where the nigs are, retard

>>107771733
not hard to figure out if you aren't ESL, rare in these threads I know
>>107771744
nigs are everywhere outside the cities too, dumbfuck

>>107771813
they are most numerous in the cities though, faggot

I’m ESL

>>107771818
your argument was that nigs aren't in flyover states, you're a retarded brown

>>107771688
what tech or tech adjacent jobs are there for an SWE that can't land a job as an SWE

>>107771842
This but also retarded and brown
Still got a tech job, Dog bless DEI

>>107771894
jobs?

I'm so fucking sick of it all.

>>107771883
i'm not the brownie you were talking to earlier nig, I'm white and nobody in the country is like "Shit, better avoid that area, full of nigs with guns"

>>107771982
same

>not even a week into 2026
>company STILL trying to shove ai down our throats, except it's claude code instead of copilot this time
fucking stop already
don't you realize that our bottlenecks have nothing to do with how quickly devs can code?

>>107772071
I would be happy if our company encouraged us to use AI. Writing code is so annoying and thinking together with AI so much fun.

>>107772071
I got dragged into a skip level meeting before Christmas because I wasn't using Windsurf enough. Fucking faggots were forcing it and Copilot down our throats at the same time.

>>107772181
Get with the times boomer and use AI.

embedded is AI-proof

>cocksucking companies won't even update the status of my application on their portal
>they just leave it on "submitted" for weeks
These decisions are made in the background. Why the fuck wouldn't they just move me to the reject pile?

>>107772222
I do. I'm just not using the one they want me to after they spent even more money on yet another fucking AI tool. Place is gonna bust themselves.

>>107772271
It's also "getting a job"-proof

so utwg got nuked huh
time to feel like a KING amongst plebs again
i'm a JOBHAVER. please lower your tone when replying to me.

Let me guess. Pajeets are taking all the jobs and AI is covering it up.

>>107772299
Dubdubs confirm.

>>107772299
AI does make you more efficient so dev jobs really are disappearing. I'd say half the jobs are gone due to AI, the other half due to Indians.

>>107772299
I'm expecting as much at the company I'm currently at. They've been bringing offshore jeets on to teams over the past year or so. The layoffs are inevitable.

>>107772292
My /utwg/ friend keeps making fun of me because I don't go to meetings or stay 100% up to date on the current AI tooling. If I wasn't such a doormat I'd tell him that some of us actually do have to work.

>>107772271
Automotive embedded is getting fucked with things worse than AI. (Autosar and ASPICE)
I'm about to job hop to defense, so I guess I'll see how good/bad embedded in defense is.

>>107772299
TRIP DUB DUBS CONFIRM
NIGJEETS ARE TAKING ALL THE JOBS NUKE INDIA NOW
(its the only way it will be clean)

>>107772342
I'm a software engineer in the healthcare sector and while we have good job security, the pay is meh and leadership kinda sociopathic.

you ever not really like your workplace but you can't really put your finger why you're pissed off.

On one hand I would like to boast and put myself above all /utwg/ friends here.
But deep down I know that slaving for Mr. ((Goldberg)) is the exact opposite of a flex.
The ride never ends.

>>107760417
>advice
DONT

>>107760417
fuck off, we're full

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>Niche stack (ios + android development)
>Google has a position open with my exact yoe as its requirements
>applied 90 days ago
>got insta rejected after 2 days
>listing is still up 3 months later

>>107772913
you gave her the ick

>>107772913
Don't rely on other people/companies to do what you can. If I can give you one life lesson, it's to fucking grift for your money.

>>107772913
brahmin applicants only, no dalits allowed

>former coworker reaches out beginning of november
>hey anon, we have a great job for you over here, do you want to apply?
>send over my resume
>go through four interviews over the course of two months
>everyone seems to like me
>everyone implies i should be expecting an offer at some time
>but tell me they have a new CFO so things might be delayed until a while into January
>get auto rejection on the 30th
>send out emails like "thank you for the opportunity, sorry it didn't work out"
>two people email me back with "oh we actually still want you, expect something from the dept head soon but we're on vacation!"
>nothing since
I realize it's the first day everyone's back to work, but what's the right read on this? something seems a bit fucky

>>107772913
>Niche stack
Why would you even do this to yourself?

>>107772952
From how this sounds I wouldn't switch over even if they actually did accept you.

>>107772766
but wouldn't you rather have money anon

I want to apply to FAGMAN but I've posted antiseptic and racist comments on youtube. Will HR roast somehow detect that?

Also do big companies check if my IP (static) has been associated with sus activity in some secret glownigger records or something?

>>107772964
it's a lot better salary, +$40k, and in a much less stressful position than I'm in currently
also I expect my current company to go under within the calendar year

>>107772766
There are people on /utwg/ who are 30+ and still make fun of us for being employed.

>>107772993
go for it man! but I'd be pissed.

>>107772983
Even if you got an answer to this, what the fuck could you possibly do with the information?
Are you not going to apply because someone says you're fucked?

>>107773004
oh believe me I am, which is why i'm seething about it in /twg/
also i've sent out a few other applications and have gotten nothing back at this point

>>107773035
honestly you guys probably handle work better than I do. i would immediately block their shit and be like go fuck yourself but you can't really be greedy in this marketplace now....unless you take my other advice and grift for money. i mean honestly my plan B is just hightailing it over to the third world and calling old granny boomers in the first world giving me their retirement fund. you only need 1 or 2 to be set for life.

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why do women create so much needless 'work'

every time I get a slack notification from a woman I just know it's going to be a total waste of everyone's time and resources

>>107772995
>who are 30+

.....
ok and? lol

>>107772766
Would you rather slave away for Mr.((Goldberg) but have the ability to fund your daily life, hobbies, love and future or keep your sanity and "freedom" for the cost of being stuck in your life and bearing the shame of being a leech and a burden?

>>107773479
I want both freedom and money.

>>107772363
Good to hear that healthcare isn't too bad. I always assumed it would suck.

Where I am in the auto industry, the pay started good, except the raises have been quite low every year.
Job security is in an odd spot, Autosar is trying to get rid of us and Indians are trying to take over, but both Autosar and the Indians are terrible at replacing us.
Automotive isn't doing super well financially though which isn't a good sign.

>>107773493
As long as you have to deal with other human beings you'll never be really free

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>>107770942
devops is still a thing? figured that would've been merged into AI by now.

>>107773367
You can be a neet in your early 20s but if you're still one in your 30s and with a superiority complex on top of that, you seriously need to reevaluate your life.

>>107773516
>Automotive isn't doing super well financially though which isn't a good sign.
Oh yes it is struggling worldwide right now. Rich people just don't need that many cars so them accumulating an ever-increasing larger percentage of total wealth is destroying that industry.

>A recent study from Model Evaluation and Threat Research found that when 16 software developers were asked to perform tasks using AI tools, they took longer than when they weren’t using the technology, despite their expectations AI would boost productivity. The research challenges the dominant narrative of AI driving a workplace efficiency boost.

>>107773643
I think models like Claude 4.5, Gemini 3 and ChatGPT 5.2 bring actual performance increases.

>>107773643
Citation required.
Also
>n=16

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>>>107773643
>Citation required.
>Also
>>n=16

>>107772936
She just wanted to see his eck.

>>107773701
oh we got the j-ACK ers in here now too?

>be me
>fell for the "Denver is a tech hub!" meme
>move here 6 years ago
>staff software engineer at literal who company
>been here the whole 6 years, every day is suffering
>desperate to escape this hellhole, shotgun resume everywhere
>get my eleventh (yes, ELEVENTH) offer in the past year
>every single one is a pay cut
>not just a little cut—at least $15k less every time
>every one of these offers required at least FIVE fucking rounds
>every startup in the area is cartoonishly under-funded
>and by proxy, underpays
>your only other option is a Dick Whiteman defense contractor
>... where you need a Super Giga Mega Poly Extra Super Clearance with a Polygraph and Anal Probe session

>mfw I'm already making "only" $140k
>mfw Denver’s "tech hub" meme means I’m capped unless I go FAANG
>mfw $500k gets you a trailer in a meth-riddled neighborhood
>if you do manage to buy a house, illegal beaners in a slammed infiniti will shoot at you for fun if you're dumb enough to go outside
>can't even enjoy nature which is the main draw of Colorado outside of the "tech hub" meme
>every Johnny Nobody came here from their midwestern shitholes to "be someone" like they're the main character in some coming-of-age movie so every single backpacking trail and camping spot is packed like a can of sardines with Sprinter vans and bearded yuppies


Fucking kill me. How the hell do people afford to live here? Where’s my six-figure rent stipend?

>>107773926
>not just a little cut—at least $15k less every time
That's not a little cut to you? I took a 150k cut a year ago just for better engineering culture.

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>>107773946
>I took a 150k cut a year ago just for better engineering culture.
I'm sincerely beginning to believe that a lot of programming comp packages are fake. Several of the offers I got were from household names (SpaceX, HP, Keysight, Palo Alto Networks), and they were all lower than my already "measly" $140k, for senior or staff level positions.

$200k+ *cash* offers haven't been a thing since like 2014, then they sorta came back in 2020, and now they're gone again.

I think people just like to put their unvested RSU figures into their "salary" to make themselves sound/feel better.

>>107773996
vesting rsu shares appear on w2 income so that's where it comes from, especially so if the share price has gone up since the time of grant

>>107773926
move to miami

>>107773132
It's like Indian culture. It's not about actually working, it's about putting on a performance so others see that you're working.

American office culture tends to be like this in general.

What site do you guys use to find jobs?

>>107774197
I just march right into the lobby of the firm that will be hiring me that day. I make eye contact and offer a firm handshake.

>>107774207
I tried that at McDonald's. It didn't work.

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>Skills and languages
>AI Assisted development (2 years)
bad idea?

>>107774362
It doesn't matter what you put on your resumé; you're already screwed.

>>107774362
Assisted development sounds like vibe coder. Use some other term instead like AI Engineer.

>HR sends me a resume for a candidate they think looks promising.
>Lists himself as the founder of a code boot camp.
>This should be fun.
>Find the guy's YouTube channel, Gen-Z hustler type.
>All bullshit videos about how to nail the interview.
>Day of the interview arrives.
>Start him off with some softballs.
>Obviously Googling every question and reading me the answer.
>Ask him to stop.
>"Why?"
>Tell him I know he'd be able to use Google and other tools in the job but I'd like to get a sense of where his skills are today.
>Stops Googling.
>Can't answer anything.

I'm sure some of you have seen a lot of this but this was my first time actually interviewing one of these guys in real life. I can't decide if I want to laugh or cry. I'm stunned.

>>107774451
We have officially entered the grifter era some time ago. It'll only get worse from now on.

>>107774386
>vibe coder
is that something me not put in resume?

>>107774780
It sounds too junior-ish.

for devops jannies, are there any azure job in the us? all i see it's fucking aws

I guess I'll fall for the AI peddlers shilling and try opus 4.5 agents, I rather have auto completes to be honest.

Whereas the unemployed general?

I hate working in Hell Desk. Is there any escape?

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>>107775050
jannies keep nuking it

>vacation
>tired as fuck
>go to bed early
>first day of work
>awake past midnight for some reason
god FUCK this shit

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>>107774919
you're on the wrong continent, german boomers are married to Azure and microsoft products. All my contracts come from there and they pay US-tier rates.

>>107775131
maybe you should stop making retarded op's

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>>107775214

i'm gonna be honest, i'd rather not have unemployed people posting here

>>107775289
Then tell the jannies not to delete the thread

>>107769542
Fuck those crotch goblins.

>>107766281
Deleted mine.

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do any wagies here still practice leetcode even after getting a job
actually does literally anybody else practice leetcode daily

>>107768359
Nobody gives a shit about certifications anymore.

>>107775556
what's with people who post this anime broad anyway
what's the meaning

>>107775606
it's a mark of insufferable twitter cunt
you can safely ignore those posts

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>>107775606
if you're talking about utwg and twg i'm pretty sure it's just me and she makes funny expressions

>>107775689
rude....

>>107775708
rude but true, sorry bucko

jobhunting fucking sucks
studying shit you dont like fucking sucks
getting ghosted sucks
but what makes shit feels more hairpulling is your retarded parents for pestering you everyday between demanding you do to endless chores, questioning your capabilities, shitting on your achievements, while still doing concern trolling bullshit like "how is it going? dont get too comfortable living here"

>>107775788
>nigga is getting concern trolled by his parents
lmaooo

Four years.
Zero raises.
Seven years on the IT help desk.

I’m 35, and recently I was in a car crash. In those moments afterward—when everything slowed down and your mind clings to what it knows—I realized what I was actually thinking about.

Not the car.
Not the money.

I was thinking about my CompTIA IT fundamentals, the tickets waiting for me, and whether I was still making my boss happy.

As strange as that sounds, it hit me hard.

This job has shaped how I think under pressure. It trained my brain to stay calm, troubleshoot, and keep going even when everything feels broken. That mindset showed up when I didn’t expect it—when it mattered.

I’m also grateful for my coworkers, who somehow always find more tasks for me. Truly. Those piled-on responsibilities forced me to grow, to learn, and to carry more than I thought I could. God bless them.

The crash didn’t just rattle my car—it reset my perspective. I’m thankful to be here, thankful for the people I work with, and thankful for the skills that stuck with me even in a moment of shock.

Sometimes it takes a hard stop to see what’s really been building you all along.

Is the chinese academy of sciences a good school or is it a bad place?

>>107775917
Juts lie bro

>>107775917
Good for you sir! Good luck on your next assignment!

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>>107775689
insufferable twitter cunts btfo.

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>git commit -a -m "added some stuff"

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Today's problem was easy
for some reason leetcode really likes their binary tree questions even though I've never been asked on in an interview (please I am begging ask me a BT question in an interview)

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The blindfags seem convinced it’s over, but for real this time

Jobs were up during start of AIhype.

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Day whatever of having a job.

A coworker I have who has been there a lot longer than me and yet is younger than me described it as a "good place to retire". I'm pretty sure I only got hired because I'm ex-mil, as pretty much the whole team at that site are ex-mil. Am I already dead?

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>>107775805
>>107775788
>parents text me during holidays to say that my sister got laid off so im the only one left with a job
>ask about my rich(?) aunt who is literally a Jewish Banker
>like literally has IDF time from going to israel on business, worked at Goldman Sachs, has a PhD in economics or something similiar, regularly appears in my LinkedIn feed giving talks on various Actually Literally Jewish Banker Shit
>get told she's actually been unemployed for years and no one knows how she's supporting herself

How far we've come. My granddad came here from germany as someone liberated from The Camps and now I'm the only one making any money and it's about 145% on the Military Industrial-Parliamentary Complex with my best work story being about waving a rifle at a fisherman while an entire helicopter snuck up on me.

>furnigger is jewish
Suddenly it all makes sense.

I'm unemployed

stall warning

There's no /utwg/ so asking here: Can I put "Caregiver / Elder Care" on my linkedin even though it's not a real job I had? My last real work experience is from 2024 but I did spend more than a part-time job's worth of time taking care of my grandma last year (it was split between me and my siblings). Obviously there was no company involved but it looks bad to have no experience for all of 2025 except 2 shitty projects I did for my own enjoyment.

Sure I can bring it up in interviews but I need to get to that point first.

>>107777102
same!!!!!

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>>107777218
I put that i definitely went to school for EE despite being a dropout, and my work experience is as a radioman, yet I got a job doing IT at a defence contractor. Anything is possible.

>>107775556
why does no one reply to me with real answers

>>107777356
no one real does leetcode

>>107777356
I went to actual programming competitions instead of grinding through leetcode. No one I knew used leetcode either.

>>107777290
Did you put that you graduated in EE? I'm not above stretching the truth or being "technically correct," but I wasn't getting paid and I don't want to come off as someone trying to pad my profile just because I don't have much.

I also see that you can add a career break to linkedin, but all I can imagine is a recruiter seeing that on a young, entry level profile and having a laugh.

>>107773926
>>your only other option is a Dick Whiteman defense contractor
>>... where you need a Super Giga Mega Poly Extra Super Clearance with a Polygraph and Anal Probe session
They don't care if you did drugs before, just go.

>>107777102
You’re not allowed to talk to me

anyone else suffering cause they got no meaningful work?
I just wanna write some code ffs

My father was in IT and died 3 years ago and I have access to his email account and he still gets recruiters sending him emails

They have to be fake, right? Sure, my Dad was kind of an expert in his field but no living being would really look at this 3+ year gap in employment and think "He's a good candidate ready for employment, lets send him our job opening"

>>107769061
>they extend my pip by 6 months for "arguing"
unless you're a complete sperg who can't communicate, take this as a sign they want to kick you out eventually
you get some cunt companies who will have a job spot open that they cycle people through for some reason

>>107776071
>>107776078
you are replying to a chatgpt post

>>107776933
fuck you kike

Is anyone looking for any workers or help on a project or something? I'm 4 years into an underpaid webdev TS/React remote job and I can feel myself yearning for something different. If anyone has any opportunities: cellsinterlinked2049@proton.me

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Being smart quirky and passionate used to be about doing what makes you happy each day

Until niggas found chinese japanese and korean media and bicker about it across every single social media platform out there becoming soulless wagies with no motion, no hoes, no nothing. No wonder jews and cinaks calls us cattle and fankui

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Our Head of Strategy is named Analia

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>took monday off to delay the inevitable
>go into work in a few minutes (wfh thank god)
>feel absolute dread even though I am the top performer on my team

I hate working so much bros. I like my company and I still cant wait to have enough money to be a NEET forever.

>>107781748
>I am the top performer on my team
found your problem
stop being a good wagie lil bro, just stop caring

>Been getting lots of impossible travel tickets at work
>It's coming from iPhone users and people using macs
The fuck's going on?

>>107780455
anon, companies need experts and people can't just guess someone died instead of, say, took a long break from work or whatever.
and you are retarded if you think employment gaps mean anything in the professional world.

>>107766281
>play the non word linkedin games
>shitpost retards
>fuck with recruiters using AI that they dont proofread (I have hidden AI poison in my profile)
I do my job hunting on indeed, linkedin jeet infestation is too bad

>>107781990
>>Been getting lots of impossible travel tickets
wtf does this even mean? like, why do you get travel tickets from other people in the first place?

>>107773132
I just silence all notifications from women in our company. Best decision I've ever made. 99% of the time it's just a woman having a woman moment. Sometimes they'll just go bother somebody else. Either way it's saved me a ton of time.

Are you guys finding yourself insanely depressed this new year? Most new years get me pretty fucked but it only really hit this year.

>>107782017
Servers detecting logins from weird places like California.

>>107782110
i feel better than usual actually

my coworker is so weird to me recently
idk how to deal with him

>>107782191
>i feel better than usual actually
Stop that. Everything is shit and getting worse. Fuck you.

My boss keeps going to me for IT problems instead of IT and at this point I've been pretty much "idk" even though I know the fixes and our outsourced ITtards don't.

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Remember when software was a “future-proof” career

>>107782428
still is if you're not retarded or a webshitter (but i repeat myself)

>>107782110
No, depression is a meme

>>107782431
>read: if you are Indian/already staff level
Sure I guess

>>107782428
no, it has always been hyper-competitive and mostly hire-to-fire crunch-BASED project cycles

>>107782483
i'm white and work in a primary white industry (defense)
not my fault you can't hack it

>>107782509
It has literally never been hyper competitive before 2022

>>107782575
the "dont hire anyone who has never accomplished anything its only 25 bux to publish an app BRO" copypasta is from like 2016

All my jobs are deadbeat shit. I feel like I'm stuck here as a retainer without any actual security, authority, or scale. I have no idea what to even look for anymore. My boss always asks for my opinion on shit and I give him the pros and cons and he'll just sit on it for weeks/months only to shelve it and then bring it back 3-4 months later. This has been all my fucking projects and it's driving me insane.

>>107782641
There are bootcampers that still have jobs to this day only because they got in in 2016

>>107782735
anon, you do know that people can learn by doing, right? also, bootcampers might still get hired, if they are good and have done networking. the real problem is the amount of retards that graduate each year, and no one seems to trust the COVID generation.

>>107782772
Sure. But OP said hypercompetitive. Hypercompetitive is like med school or high finance. Quant is hypercompetitive. Rando boot camp grad/ cs degree from shit school with shit grades is not hypercompetitive. Tech has never been hypercompetitive

why can't I get a teams message and it's something cool instead, everytime it's a teams message its a retarded fucking question. i miss being in tier 1 and teams chatting my coworkers stupid tickets to laugh at....

>>107782110
I am mildly depressed while on a stack that's supposed to cheer me up.

i think im a hypocrite
>anything to do with work
>meh just ai it who gives a shit woohoo i love AI woohoo here's your workslop
>anything to do with my hobbies with some ai faggot
>kys you stupid fucking AItranny

>>107782110
i feel pretty ok though im stuck with some shitty tasks at work

anyway i cant believe americans getting weaned off of their 200k starting tech jobs and having to live like an average european for like 3 years was enough to push them into electing temu mussolini in a hail mary attempt to get that ball rolling again

>>107783221
They still don't live like us Europoors. The biggest complaint the people ITT have is that their $120k job (they don't pay taxes on income) is only hybrid and they have to deal with mildly annoying coworkers.

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I am going to start my first ever WFH position with my first work laptop and would like to know how you guys use it at home.
Do you connect it to your main PC's monitor(s), keyboard, etc. using a dock/KVM switch, or have a dedicated setup or just rawdog it by simply using the laptop itself?

>2nd day back at work
>CEO tells us that he needs a demonstration prepared by Wednesday for a conference
>team lead asks me to do it
>okay
>already pissed off that I'm going to have to stay up all night working on this
>need to sudo something
>type in my password incorrectly twice
>automated security locks my computer down
>call up our outsourced IT support
>"yeah sorry we won't be able to help you until midday tomorrow soz"

now I need to call my team lead and explain that he needs to go back into the office so that he can prepare the demonstration in my stead because I typed my password in wrong twice

i fucking hate my life

>>107783856
my work gave me the budget for my own peripherals + 2 monitors that come with a sort of docking system

>>107783985
So you have a separate "work station" apart from your personal desktop PC?

>>107783856
I have a work macbook connected to my monitor which has a hub built in. My personal PC is also connected to the same hub. But I can switch easily.

>>107784009
its like 2 tables pushed together to form a sort of a corner

it's been 2 days and I want to kill myself already
I hate tech so much

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>>107783856
>I am going to start my first ever WFH position with my first work laptop and would like to know how you guys use it at home
I have a big executive U-shaped desk (picrel), I have my personal desktop on one side, work laptop with monitor for the work laptop on another side, and the last side is just a hutch with my printer and i'll put random papers that are supposedly important with the occasional loose loaded firearm just sitting there
>>107783985
I didn't get a budget, i already had a spare monitor but i did request a docking station
>tell work my office desk is wired for ethernet
>ask for a docking station with ethernet port
>they send me a docking station with just HDMI and USB ports and some sd card slots
>bruh.jpg
>they give me a return label to take it to UPS
>20 min drive away
>bruh2.jpg
>get there
>since i didnt have the box UPS makes me pay $4 for return packaging
>bruh3.jpg

ive fucked up bad guys, the ceo and his cronies are on my ass guys

SWE is over bros, why are you all still showing up here I thought everyone lost their job last week after all the opus 4.5 hype.

>>107783856
when i was briefly "wfh" I just had the laptop open to the side on a little storage shelf thing next to my desk whilst i played games and shitposted on my actual computer

>>107784543
i like to think of my job as a sort of nerd daycare. cant be replaced by AI

>send an email to boss for a report
>if you have any questions or want me to add anything, let me know
>boss always books a 30min touchpoint call to go over the report
is this normal? the stuff I work on is pretty self explanatory but I really hate getting looped into these time wasting calls all the time.

someone make new /twg/

>>107785007
no

>>107785021
I would but Im too tired after working remotely the whole day