Just recently saw my friend buy himself a laptop to connect to computer to play games and browse the net with. And he said he likes having it for taking mobile, too.Are desktop pcs like mines outdated? Am I'm in the wrong or is it them that's the problem?
>>107762051And no thats not my actual pc in the pic.
For horsepower, for most people, yes. For ergonomics they will never be beat.
>>107762086whose ergonomics
>>107762051What is the point of this thread?
>>107762102Are desktops obsolete in today's bedrooms
>>107762106Of course. Bedrooms are for sleep silly.
>>107762106Ideally the desktop would be in your office for better sleep hygiene
>>107762144It's fine if you have it turned off every night.
>>107762106laptops are actually the ones going outdated. now that there are tons of matx itx choices + hardware comes with better cooling and heat tolerances are way higher than ever. easier to clean and maintain. it's just better. this wasn't the case until ryzen really hit, now you can shove a monster cpu in an itx case with a passive radiator if you feel like it.
>>107762206I actually have a mini atx case and I can carry it around. Not as convenient as a laptop, but it's mobile. I just have to always provide the electricity, monitor and peripherals. A good middle ground.
>>107762206>laptops are actually the ones going outdated. now that there are tons of matx itx choices + hardware comes with better cooling and heat tolerances are way higher than everI think you misunderstand the purpose of laptops.
>>107762237>I think you misunderstand the purpose of laptops.ass monitor, moldy keyboard, explodes trying to draw power, crappy GPU, awful CPU and RAM choice typically etc etc.. it's for goys who want to see 1080p at 60fps. we are in 170FPS + mini builds now and innovate your monitor solution.
>>107762051Everyone wants something "portable" until it ends up never leaving your desk. At which point you inevitably end up replacing it with a desktop.
>>107762274kek this
>>107762051Depends. If the games you want to play aren't very demanding or generally speaking you don't need a beefy GPU for work or whatever, there are better options than full-desktop PCs; a laptop is more convenient, portable, power-efficient and silent (provided you buy a not-shit one), and you could plug in a docking hub on your office to connect it to extra screens and peripherals.Unless you're a poorfag, in which case, it's easier to find a desktop PC in the trash or in the flea market for cheap that's reasonably powerful even for modern standards.
>>107762206>now you can shove a monster cpu in an itx case with a passive radiator if you feel like it.Got a Ryzen 9 7900X. Monster of a thing, one step below a threadripper. Got one of them water cooling pucks on it, fucker idles at 10~20 watts, internal temp reading is pretty much room temperature. The fans don't feel the need to spin up until I boot a game. It's impressive stuff.
>>107762260I mean. For gaming at home there's little point in getting a laptop. For carrying it around a desktop is useless.
>>107762051>a laptop to connect to computerque
>>107762051We're now at the point where there are tons of """people""" who don't even have a laptop, much less a desktop, and do everything from their phones. And I'm not even just talking about zoomies, I know adults in professional settings who use their fucking phones to send emails, write documents, pay taxes, etc. Desktops are niche, only used by gamers, people doing very power-intensive stuff, tech enthusiasts, streamers, etc.
>>107762206Even with a small case, you're still hauling around the case, monitor, keyboard, mouse, cables, and whatever other peripherals. They're not even in the same league. ngl though, I do kinda want an ITX build. Even though I'd need a new PSU, mobo, cooler, and the case itself, wouldn't be able to store my 8TB HDD in it, and would sacrifice on thermals, all for no objective upside other than it looking cool and being able to sit on my desk like a vidya console rather than a big ugly boss at the side of my desk in the office.
>>107762668>wouldn't be able to store my 8TB HDD in itHDDs are for NASes. Mini-itx can be built with good thermals. But you need to think through a lot of stuff.
>>107762688Yeah I've fiddled around with that before, but I don't want a 2nd machine constantly running and drawing power 24/7, or needing to go over to the NAS and turn it on every time I want to access central storage. At that point I might as well just use an external 3.5" enclosure via USB. Which I also own.
>>107762051>Am I'm in the wrong or is it them that's the problem?nobody is wrong you underage nigger, you each like what you like
>>107762668>Even with a small case, you're still hauling around the case, monitor, keyboard, mouse, cables, and whatever other peripherals. They're not even in the same league.Go to the gym
>>107762051i was a gaming laptop hater, but my Rog Strix G15 rx 6800m+Ryzen 9 5900hx runs valorant at 240fps so i don't need more. more than enough to farm kids elo
>>107762716NAS is not meant to be turned off.
>>107762744pretty bad power usage if you live in some shithole like europe or australia, you could use something like raspberry pi and then auto spin the disks down
>>107762744I know. And I said I don't like the idea of having an extra computer running 24/7 on the off-chance that I want to access a file on it.
>>107762758I live in US of A so not a problem.
>>107762716>>107762763Well in that case usb enclosure is probably best. You can also connect it to the router.
>>107762793I've fucked around with using my router as a NAS, but it just sucks. The processing power of a router is laughable, so while you can technically do it, read/write speeds are hilariously low.
that's what I do. My desktop is headless and I never use a monitor with itI just use Parsec on my laptop. It's funny playing heavily modded Skyrim that needs like 48GB of RAM and almost 1TB of space on a laptop from 2019
>>107762961has streaming gotten any kind of innovation since?
I have friends who work out of town constantly so I understand a gaymer laptop for them, but if you're in your house every night I don't see the point of a desktop replacement laptop.
>>107763046gotta find out a mini replacement for that laptop, cyberdecking is the way
>>107762973Since when? Hardware accelleration has been a thing for well over a decade now, over LAN it's near impossible to tell the difference without a sensor strapped to your monitor.Sunshine/Moonlight is the best of the bunch until GGodin finally puts two and two together and makes a regular desktop version of Virtual Desktop.
>>107762168Its not. Even if you have your computer totally off, you still sleep worse because your brain associates "bedroom" with "doing stuff on the computer," not just sleep, so you take longer to get to sleep and sleep more shallowly.
>>107763807dont have that problem
>>1077620515-10 years ago a couple years old pre built was the budget option. Now for whatever reason laptops are. A 3561 with a 11400h + 4gb 1650 is $150, while some old optiplex with the desktop version is being scalped for 500 + shipping. I bought an Acer laptop over black Friday with a 12gb 5070ti for $1250. You aren't building a competitive desktop for that price. And you know what I'm doing with this shitty Acer with 3 hours of battery life and a shitty keyboard? It's sitting in a desktop folder rack connected to my keyboard and monitor for the next 5 years.if I have to leave town it's somewhat convenient.
>>107762051The point of a laptop is being portable.My main rig is powerful, i always work at home.If I'm on the move i won't be using much power anyway.
Why do I increasingly feel like the posts I'm reading online are written by retarded children?
>>107762106a laptop is far less powerful than a desktop. but if you're a woman who only uses tiktok and facebook you dont need more than that.
>>107764107unlike real man who play games all day
>>107764030They are written by Indonesians and Indians.
>>107764107I use a desktop cause I need a lot of power for my engineering needs. Plus why not.
Better thermals
>>107762051For people who were reluctantly tolerating bulky desktops and would prefer something smaller, there are now more options for that. (Not just laptops but also ITX rigs, miniPCs, steam deck, etc)But there are also quite a lot of people who actually really like the fact that their computer is physically big, heavy, and and eye-catching. They like having a spacious case which they can tinker, upgrade, replace parts, re-route wires, add flashy RGB LEDs... for these people the hardware is part of the hobby and they aren't interested in compact tightly-integrated alternatives like laptops.There's still enough of these people to make it worth manufacturing big cases and motherboards so I'm not worried about the death of the desktop any time soon.
>>107762051I moved to laptop so I don't have to buy new RAM every year. And I prefer low power nowadays.
>>107762274Not leaving your desk isn't even it.Desktops can be upgraded and the major selling point to them (why they occupy the real estate) is they can be silent or much quieter than a laptop once you cross the passive/quiet cooling setup threshold for laptops.Normies watching youtube and doing email or chess/bingo on their laptop can get away with tablets with a keyboard and not have to deal with noise.The moment you want to run 3D games, any laptop capable of that will be a high frequency screecher from all the airflow passing through small vents.Another thing worth mentioning is laptops inherently have a built-in uninterruptible power supply. If you're in the category of people who won't need anything better than a modern budget laptop, then it's extremely hard to beat one for the price even with desktop components even if you exclude a UPS and already include reusing a monitor.Desktops are niche these days for a reason. The people who want/need a desktop have one and will continue to own one, but normies are just different.
>>107762736who made this?
>>107762051>Are desktop pcs like mines outdated?No they have their uses for specific power needed that laptops can't provide but if you aren't gaming for the newest AAA slop a laptop now days will be enough
>>107762106Yes. Your typical new unit bedroom is basically only big enough to fit a bed and bedside table, with a balcony/window on one side, and a sliding wardrobe on the other. Literally no space remaining for a computer desk.>t. zoomer looking to move out
It's the opposite, laptops seem like they've been getting squeezed by mobile and desktops. You have internet "for free" in your pocket without having to lug anything around, and it's good enough for what you end up doing while you're out and about. Why carry something extra which is so bulky? Admit it, you want to sit in a coffee shop and pretend to be productive while you doomscroll. It sucks to actually try to do anything on a laptop.The only thing a laptop is good at is being moved between several docks, like splitting hybrid work between home/office. Then it's fine. But it's just a work thing, which your work probably buys so they can load security shit on, I don't know why people buy laptops for themselves. If I had one it would just sit on my desk.
>>107762736>Rog Strix G15>He plays at 16:9 1080p on 15.6"hahaha
>>107767501This is true. Even after I built my first desktop, I still used my laptop fairly often back in the day, especially when traveling, going over to my parents, over at friends, college, etc. But after smartphones got good enough and all the internet sites switched over to have UI built for mobile, I basically stopped using laptops entirely. If I'm home I use a desktop, and if I'm not I use my phone.
>>107767276If you're in your own place, you don't need to shove everything into your bedroom. You can use a spare bedroom as an "office".
>>107762051>Are desktop pcs like mines outdated?Yes, at least for normies. Most of them don't even need a PC at home, they are doing fine with a phone + console. Some of them get an iPad or Macbook. And yes, some of them get a fucking x86 Laptop with windows preinstalled. People that work from home, often times have a work issued laptop.Desktop PCs are a manchild thing. Loud, ugly, power hungry, bulky. But I totally get why someone loves desktop pcs, they are easy to upgrade and repair. It's the best financial choice you can make, when you don't have a lot of money. Desktop PC and a VPN.
>>107770594>Loud, ugly, power hungry, bulkyWhy do people pretend desktops are the same shit as from 20 years ago?
>>107770658Because it's true. I never heard my Macbook or my Phone. But as soon as I play games on my PC, I can hear fucking the fucking GPU fans (tuned), even if they are quieter, I can hear fucking coil whine. I got a fucking be quiet CPU cooler but I can still hear the thing, when I'm compiling the linux kernel, compressing shit, transcoding etc. >Valve, please liberate us from x86 and ugly fat gpus, we need ARM and RISC-V, NOW! Hail FEX.
>>107770658My midrange pc from 2021 sucks as much power idle as 5 minipcs under full load
>>107770658>Why do people pretend desktops are the same shit as from 20 years ago?Because they are for faggots, just with LGBTQ RGB and glas panels.>>107770771idle power draw sucks, especially on multi monitor setups. it's crazy that this is still a problem.
>>107767253laptops suck for VMs, video editing, and other important services. So no, laptop is not enough
>>107770594>Desktop PCs are a manchild thing.Every movie, video game, and business development uses desktops for high performance work, neet.
>>107762051at least I don't need one anymoreused to build back in the day, even did silly Crossfire with AMD cards now I just use M1 Air as "PC" and old T440p as "server"
apart from a brief period in the 00s when a desktop was required for school work and stuff, desktops have always been for fucking nerds. where do you think you are?
>>107770763we know you've never owned a mac if you have never heard it scream inside of 400 differently sized security screws. and your aluminum itoddler starts melting at a youtube video
>>107762051How is desktop outdated when it's WAY fucking cheaper AND requires a lot less maintenance (ten layers of dust? nah I'll run).Laptop would cook itself just for running Chrome.
>>107771239finally a sane person
>>107762051Laptop price to performance ratio will never beat desktop. Gaming laptops will always be huge, heavy pieces of shit that spin up jet engines and melt the table when you try and do anything slightly demanding. They are also borderline impossible to upgrade, and you are also restricted to their (often) shitty little dim screens, unless you connect to a monitor with thunderbolt but the ergonomics of that is worse than a desktop.I have a thinkpad to do mobile office work with, I don't do portable gaming and if I did I'd get a steam deck.>Just recently saw my friend buy himself a laptop to connect to computer to play games and browse the net withI assume you mean connect to a monitor. And as I say, the ergonomics are worse. Laptiops take up more space when using them in tandem with a monitor as opposed to finding a good spot to put a desktop, and the responsiveness of thunderbolt will not be as good.
>>107770981We get it you're unemployed.
>>107762051Desktops are necessary to comply with the “PC Master Race” movement. May your temperatures be low and your frames high or something. You NEED (keyword NEED) a 120+ Hz monitor (1080p only, let me guess you need more?) for professional e-sports (scrolling 4chan and playing Minecraft/emulators). You also NEED a mechanical keyboard, no numpad (let me guess you need more?) so you can impress all your friends with your sick thocking in Discord VC. The fact that laptops have membrane keyboards is enough to completely abolish them. THEN you need a desktop amp with the FOTM headclamp for gaming only (music sounds horrendous on audiophool gear). Turn up the RGB lights and you’re set for years of sitting on your ass scrolling and doing nothing. Your “battlestation” is your natural zone of existence besides your bed, and when you’re not sleeping, you’re “manning” your “battlestation”. Tell your friend he’s a clueless retard and will likely never be a woman.
>>107772577>The fact that laptops have membrane keyboards is enough to completely abolish them.it is>You NEED (keyword NEED) a 120+ Hz monitor (1080p only, let me guess you need more?)170+ now or you're huffing retro computinggo back
they are just easier to repair
>>107771403Gaming in 2026 is playing fagslop and sitting in discord talking to other fags about fag shit.>>107770894>>107770887You don't do any of those things anyway.
>>107772817>You don't do any of those things anyway.I actually do, faggot.
>>107772834AI loli doesn't count you unemployed nigger.
>>107772871I make 150K doing more than you will ever do at home, coomer
>>107772887I work in a SCIF making more than that, blessed by a clear dilineation between work and family life. Working from home is fag cope for asocial and unproductive retards maintaining tranny apps and producing slop. Your desktop is a conduit for reddit-tier man child consooooming and it kills you to know that you're going to die in that gaming chair, alone and afraid, probably by your own hand.
>>107772887>>107772965My dad works at nintendo and they don't have computers at all
>>107772965>Working from home is fag copeWorking from home is fun.
Did some part of this thread just get pruned?
>>107773247Refresh your browser or something. everything is still here
>>107772965>Working from home is fag copedon't talk about my jewish daycare job like that
>>107773266Guess I'm finally going insane then. At last
>>107762051>minesHello D'Shawn
>>107773498that sentence is grammatically correct. what is your autistic mind going on about
>>107762051I've had desktop just in case I need to change parts. I also feel they are more reliable and easy to fix. I often would change the graphical card and add some ram but... really, that's it. After a while the sockets are outdated anyway.Now that I'm older and don't play as much, not sure I'll buy a desktop anymore.
>>107773600All you need is a flagship phone and maybe a tablet, gramps.
>>107773512>Are desktop pcs like [hole dug in the ground for extracting ore and minerals] outdated?This doesn't make sense. How did you see "mines" and not notice anything wrong?
>>107775215shut up
>>107762051i dont want to play games or fuck around with a computer when im not at home, i have other things to do.
>>107776256Fapping to AI and watching vtubers is not better things to do
>>107776287i dont do either of them when i leave the house you silly sod, who would? stop projecting your sick, demented delusions on other people.
>>107770537Implying I can afford multiple bedrooms
>>107762051I don’t understand why full size desktops are still a thing. You can easily build mini itx with a full gpu, good cpu heatsink, double ssd and 2.5" slot. Some even have four ram slots, even when nobody uses this shit due to how awful signal integrity is on ddr5. Barring the very few users who need dual gpu or 4x 3.5" hhd or a billion IO, why not go with mitx and have a desktop a third of the side of a full tower? They’re vastly more mobile
>>107779433I am one of those very few users with "a billion IO," I use 3 PCI cards in addition to my 2+ slot GPU (so even mATX wouldn't suffice), 2x 5.25" & 1x 3.5" external bays on the front, 1 internal 3.5" bay (which I've seen not all ITX cases have), and most of my USB slots on the back have something plugged in as well. I don't care about mobility, as when I'm seeing friends we're gonna be doing other stuff besides a LAN party, and I don't see a downside to the size because vertical space is practically unlimited. Most ITX cases aren't going to be much thinner than my tower, and being 6-8" shorter wouldn't matter when I have plenty of feet between the top of my tower and the ceiling to spare.
>>107762206yes just carry your ITX shitbox and your monitor to the cafehow hard can that be
>>107779433Because a full size desktop is cheaper with zero downside?
Usecase for portable devices?99% of people dont need a portable PC unless they have a job like trucking or travel a lot for their jobs. If you do have such a job, then a gayming laptop is the best way to go. Something like a 1080p $600 lenovo gaming laptop since anything more than 1080p on a 16" screen is a meme.Maybe if you lived in China, Russia, Netherlands somewhere with good public transport you MIGHT be able to justify a steam deck but chances are western weimerican canuck mutts have zero use for a steam deck.For the price of a mid high range laptop, you can still build (even with ram price increases) a 9800X3D 9070XT PC for $1700
>>107762688>fits Ncase M1What CPU cooler is that?Also pretty smart of you to use thicker Phanteks fans to deal with the gap you'd normally have between that deshrouded GPU and 25mm bottom intakes - it's a lot simpler than making some sort of duct
>>107780780It's pretty roomy. The only things that don't fit are full size tower coolers. It's Thermaltake (or thermalright, it always confuse those two) silver arrow 135. Something like that.
>>107780871Thanks
>>107780895Also I think there's some better cooler now. It just wasn't enough to justify an upgrade.
>>107780904Yeah, Peerless Assassin 120 Mini also seems to fitI have an M1 v6 and a 5800X3D - my NH-L12S is fine but it's good to know that coolers that're a little more full size also can be made to work
>>107781056I have 5950x and before I had NH-U9S. 120mm coolers can be a bit more quiet. Or push more air. Best option is 240 AIO, but it means loosing the glass panel...
