This is it. The end of personal computing, the end of gaming gpus.: No more rtx 6000, no more dedicated gpus, Nvidia will completely exit the consumer market. Told you that this was going to happen, one way or another. A single data enter dedicated to GAY-I brings more revenue than 100.000 individual consumers who buy GAYMER cards. Better scoop up a top of the line gpu now, while stocks last. There won't be any new cards coming, and yeah that applies to rtx 5000 super too.
Then fuck Nvidia. There is demand and money to make, so someone else will supply.
>>107762082who cares. most good games can run on modern igpus. and if nvidia quits the consumer market, somebody will take their previous place.
I told you to buy but nobody on here ever spends any money except those crazy richfags in the Local LLM generals who don't even care what anything costs or the server general where they only buy HDDs anyway This is exactly why companies are only catering to richfags nowThe top 10% of earners make 50% of all purchases1 in 10 Americans is a millionaireWhen companies make this stuff they are only trying to sell it to those ca. 30 million people They don't care about any poorfags
>>107762082NOOOOO !Why do they blatantly ignore us (ordinary users)?
>>107762131Lol who? Amd always follow Nvidia, and Intel literally got bailed by Nvidia too. Onlt China can do something but they will take a good 5-6 years till they become usable
>>107762138Okay enjoy playing rdr2 on an igpu. 720p 30 fps capped
>>107762082You will use ze terminal PC and you will like it
How long will my rx570 hang on? I play cs2 on lowest settings already lmao
>>107762222buy a 9060 or 9070 and never look back. 9000 series is the most banger ever next to an XTX
>>107762163Good thing 5-6 more years is exactly what I expect to use my current PC. I upgraded less than a year ago so I'm good.
>>107762222Get a better gpu RIGHT NOW. DO NOT WAIT.
>>107762244These are $1000 cad right now... that used to be high end back in my day
>>107762267Get an rtx 3060 12 gig gddr6, they are around 190-200 usd in NA, should be around 300 leaf bucks in Canada. It is perfectly capable of playing anything except the very latest ue5 slop on 1440P
>>107762152I already boughted an rtx 4080. I'm chill till 2031
>>107762175He said good games
>>107762385Rdr2 shits on every single game you can imagine. Only gta V, witcher 3 and few others come close to shaping the industry
>>107762397>Rdr2 shits on every single game you can imagineIt's a good game but don't exaggerate. GTA V and Witcher 3 are mid games at most.
we're truly in the era of buy before they stop bothering to even sell you the shit any more I've never seen times like this ngl I still think many governments will just say owning this stuff is illegal one day like 3d printers or HPC stuff
>>107762414Okay tell me some examples of good games. Hint no old shit like oblivion or cod
>>107762082Who cares. Vidya is for losers and local AI is best on apple hardware right now.
>>107762536Apple? Yeah enjoy generating videos by waiting for hours on your igpu on your silicon poopjet
>>1077624272030 is right around the corner, anon
>>107762082Ngl but i can still use a 1050 Ti for the next 30 years just fine and have backups otherwise.
>>107762679Genuinely asking, what can you play with such a weak card? 1050Ti is like... 6 generations old at this point. If it was a gtx 1660 super or something I could understand, at least it's gddr6
>>1077622679060 16Gb is 400€ in the tax shithole that is Europe. I bet you can buy one for 300$ in USA.
>>107762082People, especially companies, are turning away from LLMs (and imagen never got profitable). They will get back to general purpose GPU within the next 5 years.
>incel kids discover that nobody cares about their brain frying hobbyLMAO, at least now those GPUs will be used for actual work
>>107763084I doubt, burgers get actual discounts but regular prices are similar
>>107762449>Hint no good responses, only bad ones so I can feel better about myself.
>>107763102Thank you for conceding
>>107762830I can play Horizon Zero Dawn, Titanfall 2, TF2, Ultrakill, there's a ton of games that don't really need the processing power newer GPUs have. I think it should also be able to run Cyberpunk but i haven't tried. Still i don't really have an issue with it being weak since i don't like most new games to begin with.
>>107763158Horizon zero dawn is a ps4 game so of course you can play it. It is literally designed to run on a gtx 1060 3 gb... And you cannot play cyberpunk unless you run it 720p on low. 1080p medium starts from 8 gig vram
>>107762082My Winter Car runs perfectly fine on my RX 7600.
>>107762082So what's to stop Chinese factories from reverse engineering Nvidia GPU's and just making their own to sell on TEMU/Aliexpress for 1/100th the original price while fully compatible with Nvidia's driver software?(I already know the answer, because they've been doing this exact thing since like 2011 and just sell exclusively to the domestic market due to "copyright" preventing Chinese Nvidia knockoffs from being exported. They even have models with 2x as much VRAM. This is why China isn't having a PC hardware crisis right now lel.)
>>107762082> some deutschland distributor halts some sales due to supply constraints> (you): the end times are hereStill tend to agree with this tho, cause supply probs won't recover soon:> Better scoop up a top of the line gpu now, while stocks last.
Are we really going to see the end of personal computing as we know it or is this just all alarmist crap and things will go back to normal in a few years?
>>107763209Same reason China smuggled thousands of 5090s last week, they don't care about laws nor rules. And they don't need to, it's a hard world out there.
>>107762163I think China closes the gap in more like 2 years.
>>107763217Do things ever go back to normal? In my lifetime(born in the early 90's) things only seem to get worse as cucks continue to cope that "capitalism will find a solution" or "it's no big deal" while accepting the new normal even as their quality of life goes down.The only people that have any actual alternative to the current Jewish order is China, and they certainly don't care about bailing out Americans from a crisis of your own making. Until Americans start standing up for themselves, what the fuck do you expect to happen? No one is going to fix the world for you. Things will continue to get worse until the peasants kill and eat the nobility.
>>107763259>white european>CEO is chinese>all the engineers are either chinese, indian, or jewish>all the factories and fabs are in chinauh huh
>>107763261>The only alternative to Jews is Asian Jews.I'd rather have a nuclear apocalypse
>>107762082STOP FEAR MONGERING
A small price to pay for the infinite innovative power of AI!Thank you so much, AI industry!!!
>>107763260functionally China already closed the gap domestically, but expecting China to provide a solution for America's problems is hopeless. the US government will ban or block any kind of Chinese GPU company from operating in the US under "national security" aka protecting Nvidia's monopoly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huawei#United_Statesat some point they WILL normalize "subscription based cloud gaming services" and you WILL get spammed by indians on /g/ trying to downplay and normalize it as "based" and "works on my machine" and "you don't NEED a gaming PC" etca few years from there you'll see the Steam hardware survey shift to 90% Chinese users as Americans just quietly accept that they aren't allowed to own gaming PC's anymore and do nothing about it.then you'll see reactionaries on here and in american politics insisting it's China's fault somehow that America destroyed itself for short-term profits for a few tech billionaires, while appealing to nostalgia for the "before times" even though they were the architects of the collapse. americans of course will continue to do nothing.>>107763299this
>9800X3D>5070 TiYeah I'm good until this RAMpocalypse and AI bubble are over
>>107762449Anon, Oblivion isn't old by videogame standards and it was already shit at release. Next time say Morrowind or Daggerfall.
>>107763394Anything over 15 yo is old. I'm an old fag, I'm 34 but oblivion is still old. I was in middle school when I was playing it for god sake
>>107763261No, things don't go back to normal.US and the entire West by extension, is in the same situation as Japan in the 80's market wise.Markets haven't even collapsed yet, but once they do, we're going to see 30 years of sideways movement, while people grow poorer.Which is extremely fucked up due to many nations already having gone sideways without real growth since 2008.There will be no recovery, because you need an actual industry for that and most places have fucking nothing.Chinks have all of the factories and they're increasingly buying brains from the West.Then there's all of the disruptive subhumans that have been imported since the 90's. They'd need to be kicked out before things can normalize.If you want to live another growth period among white or relatively white people and enjoy the good times, you have to go to South-America.While still shitholes, their nations are increasingly growing wealthier with the massive amounts of investment they're getting, along with a ton of industry being built.Their energy generation is also going to keep on accelerating, especially through a shitton of solar being built, which they'll soon manufacture locally.Within 10 years this increased employment and manufacturing is going to enrich the locals greatly and the crime rates are going to fall like a rock. They're going to have good times for the foreseeable future.
>>107763427>fuck illegals they're ruining this country>you should move to their countrywat
>>107763270>>all the engineers are either chinese, indian, or jewish>>all the factories and fabs are in chinaThx for making it obvious that your dont know shit about this.
>>107763463China can just poach white european engineers, and they have been doing so.There is no reason for smart, talented people to have any loyalty to the third world economic zone known as the USA.
>>107763408I'm 35 so I can relate but I still remember having a blast playing the Nintendo Entertainment System and my dad and uncle playing their old Atari once for the lulz. Pretending HD era games are some obscure stuff is zoomer as fuck.
waiting for used 50xx series cards from AI coomers who didn't make it, god it will be even cheaper than 3090 series for 500 bucks, god I will have a lot of VRAM
I just ordered a 5060Ti 16 on the weekend to future proof my system.
Oh no!!!! The monopoly brand that has price gouged customers for years now is going to stop selling!!! This is a tragedy!!!
>>107763783Yes, it is a tragedy. What will you buy? Amd? Ahahahahahah
>>107763761that card is only good for AI futa gens on a budget
>>107763761Did the same a few week ago. Overclocks&undervolts really well. I'm getting performance that is close to a 5070. And the gpu runs stable&cool, has been a long while since i have had a gpu who overclocked this well. I got lucky on the gddr7 lotto
goodbye budget smartphones...
>>107763261Americans will never stand up for themselves because that's anathema to their crabs in a bucket culture. Their role in propping up the reserve currency is increasingly obsolete and their servility makes them perfect subscription fodder.
>>107762082i got mine already :)
>>107765024>16gb vramnot enough
>>107765029enough for my use case
>>107764904Damn I feel good that I boughted an 8 core phone with 12 gig ram
>>107763209They don't know how. Everything they have now was given to them or they stole. kek this cope
>>107764904I find myself wondering if some of these companies are pivoting too late and are going to fuck up by catching the bubble the moment it pops by the time they produce something for the AI market.
>>107762152>1 in 10 Americans is a millionaireIf you remove the value of their primary residence, 76% of those people lose their millionaire status. So every company by that logic is really trying to chase the top 2.5%
>>107762082Thankfully an iGPU can run Quake 3
>>107764990lol, just lol.
>>107765290The bubble is being fueled by defense spending and that is not subject to market forces so maybe not.The real question is what happens when one elite factions vision comes in conflict with another.Take cheap cellphones for example. Cheap and easily accessible cellphones are required for things like contactless payment and gps tracking. That is dependent on cheap chips.What good is the AI if you don't have everyone tracked with their cheap, practically free, cellphones and other gadgets?Personally I think we are already near the limit of what large language models can do and we are nearing an AI winter. The defense industry can pump all the money they want into these projects but I don't think it will produce what they have been sold and the whole enterprise is going to go belly up but maybe I am wrong.Either way I look forward to buying all this shit on ebay in a few years for cheap.
>>107764990t. Poo Smelljeet
>>107762131No. Their solution is HaaS and SaaS. We will have to connect 24/7 even for computing as menial as creating txt files.They want control and unrestricted access to ai training data.The Beast System is coming
>>107765519>everything is hopeless propagandaDo you know how much computing you can get out of a raspberry pi? or what about the two old forth get dell optiplex machines i have in my garage?There is so much compute floating around in the hands of your average person its not funny. Things will be fine and people will work out solutions.
>>107765450>What good is the AI if you don't have everyone tracked with their cheap, practically free, cellphones and other gadgets?NTA. However, I firmly believe that the AI endgame includes a drastic reduction of overall population on this earth.I certainly don't believe that AI, AGI, or whatever, is being built for you and me and us, in general.Once/if AI advances scientific research on itself which then advances AI further and so this loop begins, it is game over for most of us.The only silver lining is that it might fail as the mRNA-Wunderwaffe has failed.And to be super conspiratorial, I tend to entertain the thought that they expected a lot smaller world population by now already.
>>107765563>Things will be fine and people will work out solutions.You overestimate normies. They're going to flip their shit when they can play goy of duty on a chromebook. Normies love the cloud.
>>107762082Now with will techlete sheep brained consoomer NPCs do?
>>107765593Anon your average tech illiterate normie does not even know that you can plug your phone to your pc with a USB cable to recover your photos/videos and empty your storage. There is a reason why apple makes so much money off icloud
>>107765604They are the same reason nVidia is so popular.
>>107762082You likely have a system that can emulate ps2 so you can play socom 2.In general fuck modern games
>>107765583>And to be super conspiratorial, I tend to entertain the thought that they expected a lot smaller world population by now already.I think whatever playbook that is being used was written by better more intelligent men.Our current elite are like the second or third generation in a family business. They don't really understand how it works but they just keep pulling the levers and doing what their grandfather told them to do expecting it to all work out. I don't think it willI also think its important that people don't get stressed out over this bullshit. Whatever computers are available will be made to work and even if we are reduced to some illegal BBS over ham radio things will be fine.
>>107765651>I also think its important that people don't get stressed out over this bullshit. Whatever computers are available will be made to work and even if we are reduced to some illegal BBS over ham radio things will be fine.Explain in your own words how this isn't just the "frog in boiling water" rationale to avoid Doing Anything as the world closes in around you?Why are people on this site so confident that things will be "fine" when things only seem to get worse?
stop bitching that gaming is getting too expensiveyou dont need any of that shit
>>107765651>whatever computers are available will be made to workthis, there is decades of computers that can all interact given industry standardization. this is the legacy that maintains computing.
You retards don't NEED a computer. All you need is a flagship phone and a PS5.That's it.
>>107765748>Why are people on this site so confident that things will be "fine" when things only seem to get worse?What I can do as an individual is limited. My area of effect is small. I do what I can within that limited scope and I try not to worry about the bigger picture.Maybe life will get more difficult, maybe my material conditions will not be as bountiful as my parents or grand parents, that is life.Do you get what I am trying to say? The elite will play their game and I will do what I can, life will go on, and it will all work out.
>>107765788tell me, does it anger you that I'm posting to 4chan imageboards on an ASUS Z890 AYW, Intel 245K, 32GB G.Skill DDR5 6400, ASUS Prime 5070 TI, w/ 8TB+ M.2's and SSDs?
>>107765866Am I meant to be impressed with that poverty machine?
>>107765789>Do you get what I am trying to say? The elite will play their game and I will do what I can, life will go on, and it will all work out.actual slave mentality holy shit
>>107765866You won't be in the next 5 years. You'll be phone posting and playing Astro Bot on your console reflecting back to the good ole days when HAD a PC
>>107765651>Us Autist boys can survive>AUTIST BOYS CAN SURVIVE!
>>107765889so you are mad>>107765891>when hadopinion discarded
>>107763260>>107763353>this year China will have 4060 equivalent with 24 gig vram on their first try>they will probably do a good cuda replacement for ai stuff >china is also making their own steam, they already are at least more than 1/3 of steam users we will live to see a future where amerigoyims is not a target audience worth exploring.>>107763427Stay away from south america, we don't need amerigolems bringing even more jewish bullshit here.>>107763463>90% of the relevant ai papers are written by Chinese >70% of the relevant american ai papers are written by Chinese lol, americans better be ready to live like 3th worlders while elon musk becomes trillionaire
>>107765924you sound very ungrateful for someone who benefits from Americanseverything that currently improves your quality of life is because America exists
>>107765921Why would I be mad? I am just disappointed that you would think I am jealous over that thing. Does it have RGB lights too lmao.
>>107765890I don't think you understand the difference between master and slave morality. I don't believe anything I said is centered on resentment which is the hallmark of slave morality.>>107765896exactly
>>107765962>exactlyExcept you can't. The figure is cloud based computing that will require subscriptions. Trying to access the cloud based apps withiut a subscription will be you blocked and then you're fucked.
>>107765962>I don't think you understand the difference between master and slave morality. I don't believe anything I said is centered on resentment which is the hallmark of slave morality.Don't you feel like your humanity is being wasted being a willing and happy slave to Jews? Don't you feel any shame? Would your ancestors be happy to see you justifying and rationalizing your own enslavement?
>>107765980>Trying to access the cloud based appsWhy would I need to access cloud based apps? The powers that be can only control their platforms. I choose not to use their platforms, simple as
>>107765995Then you won't be banking, shopping, filing taxes, getting anything done. No AI work, no coding, no gaming, no nothing. What will you do then?
>>107762082it OVER for retards that didn't grab a 5090, it's the last card EVER.
>>107766009Good
>>107766007>you can only code and game if you pay games remotelyhave you ever used a c64 an old ibm pc with BASIC? There is plenty of computing that can be done without the need of network access
>>107765980no no nohow about I buy the video card and you subsidize my video card by purchasing said video card manufacturers subscription.
>>107766025Until your system dies and you can't replace it. How now brown cow?
>>107765995Pal, you don't understand. Even operating systems will be cloud based.
>>107766042I hope this happens. >Get new high end AMD card>Only pay a few bucks a month That would be BASED
>>107766043It's guaranteed in the near future we will all be cyber-decking.
>>107762082just get amd poorfag
>>107766049Not if you're using Linux. And if even permaslave rent-a-computer ultrajeet surveillance isn't enough to get you to switch, you deserve death.
>>107766085>Not if you're using Linux.I didn't realize Linux means you don't have to pay the OpenAI RAM tax
>>107766085Aaple is the only eight answer. They know what you need before you do. The ecosystem is beyond this world. You don't even need a Mac or a MacBook. An iPad pro with keyboard is perfect. A perfect combo of computing, gaming, and life management. Just stop being poor and join the rest of the civilized world.
>>107766109You can deploy a linux system on 1gb of ram or less. I have run Window Maker on a single core PowerPC with 512mb of ram at 1024x768 and had a perfectly functional gui setup.If you go text only we are talking megabytes of ram is all that is needed. You can even browse the internet text only with links or lynx.my point is modern computing is bloated as fuck and you would be surprised at how little you really need.
Ngreedia shills just can't catch a break, god damn.
>>107766157I think is hilarious watching the techletes melt down. Most of them don't know the difference between ROM and RAM and are only nVidia shills because social media and YouTube told them to be. They don't even know what CUDA is. Hopefully they get out of PCs completely and go back to where they came from.
I got my 5090 a few weeks ago before all this rumor mill junk because I genuinely believe this will be the last reasonably obtainable consumer GPU line from nvidia. Between the davidson window, the AI bubble crap, and the diminishing returns between the 4000 -> 5000 series jump, even if the 6000 line is announced at CES, I don't see nvidia staying in the consumer game much longer. Either AI works and they can afford to tell consumers to piss off, or AI bubble pops and nvidia goes belly up. I don't want my fellow GAMERS to suffer, but i would feel pretty smug if it all blows up.
>>107766133>You can deploy a linux system on 1gb of ram or less.Why would I want to do that though? Why do I have to keep settling for getting less nice things while the rich continue eating up resources? Why are we now at the stage of rationalizing this bullshit instead of taking what is rightfully ours? Hands off my gaming PC you fucking kikes.>my point is modern computing is bloated as fuck and you would be surprised at how little you really need.If this is true then why are the wealthy working so hard to monopolize compute resources and take it away from us? Maybe stop telling people "you don't need that" like a petulant normalfag scolding a child. I'm a grown human and I'm entitled to whatever the fuck specs I want to put in my PC.
>>107766251You sound like a homosexual. And since you're an nVidia shill, you likely know nothing about technology, which means I can discard you homosexual driven opinion. Besides all that. PC is dead. I would tell you to get a PS5, but we don't take kindly to homosexuals, so your best bet is to get a Switch and go all in on Nintendo. You'll fit in with the other homos there, quite nicely I am sure.
>>107766298kek
>>107766359I’m the anon who wrote that post above lol. I am actually a homosexual myself haha. It’s just light-hearted banter haha please don’t be too offended.
>>107766298I have a ps5 too, but it doesn't have any games. I wouldn't have sex with you, sorry.
>>107762161because you don't pay as much as sam altman
Joke's on you I only play WoW Classic Era which requires a 1980s toaster to run on max graphics.
>>107766400Jokes on you I only play Astroid on an Atari 2600p.s. yes I AM actually that based
>>107766400>>107766583Jokes on both of you I only play with myself.
boughtened a 5090 today. no regrets
5070ti super is being announced in a matter of days. Wait titans will win
>>107762082I don't wait because it's smart, I wait because it's easy.
>>107762131>There is demand and money to makewhat you don't understand is that there is more money and demand from data centers.
>>107766274You can get it if you can pay for it....Oh, can you not pay for it...?
>>107762131There is demand, but there is no fab capacity to meet that demand, you retard.
>>107762298you are not, they will exit customer GPUs so even drivers. AMD will have drivers optimized for games better than nvidia.. soon, soon
>>107765946retard
>>107766400i'm unironically sitting on a gtx 970all i do play is minecraft, factorio and shit like runescape and ragnarok onlinei do not care about modern day singleplayer gamesi might upgrade my CPU just for factorio or some shit, but otherwise, do not give a fuck
before I go on ebay, I am selling a 3080 FE and 32GB DDR4 for $420. if you're someone who's doing a budget build jump on this deal now. As good as it gets
>>107767055>happy chairmore like in great distress
>>107767055Ultra mega based
>>107762131They won't because AI companies pay more.
>>107762082NVIDIA also writes their drivers using AI now and it shoes for the 50 series.
MEGA HAPPENING
>>107762082the rtx 6000 for desktop use has existed since 2025. that said, even then it was never meant for regular consumers.on a personal note; i’m glad i didn’t listen to waitfags.
>>107763261USA's hegemony died in 1980s when the rest of the world rebuild itself from WWII. USA carried on with sheer momentum until 2010s. The momentum died. It is now a just decline into a free-falling pitfall as the entitlements cash in.
>>107762161Why bend over pennies (RTXs) when you can have your trillions with H200s?
>>107762082Video cards for consumers arn't going anywhere. They are just going to change. Nvidia will save all the best bins for AI cards and "gamers" will get the trash in a probably 3 or 2 tiered system. There wont be anymore 5050 or 5080 or 5070 etc. It will just be the 7090 or the cheaper 7060. Thats it.
>>107769607>since you are too poor to buy new GPUs, we will just sell you more fake frames
HOLY FUCK !$%^^!*&@#*$%!%^&@%^&!%*HOSTING 3B DROP PARTY IN FALADOR WORLD 12
>>107769882DOA
>>107765029You don't even know what he's intending to play. You're a tool.
>>107765962You made me check on Nietzsche and you're right: slave mentality implies resentment. Keep on Buddhing Buddha.
>>107762082I just bought one. I was planning on staying on my 3060ti forever, but it recently started showing GPU artifacts like once every other week, so I got scared.
>>107763299>then they will be banned from the USA or slapped with huge tariffsimagine living in USAimagine not smuggling all sanctioned goods through Singapore or Thailand
They're literally restarting 3060 production.
Since DLSS4.5 will have 6x framegen,What's your baseline for increasing framegen?It's kind of choppy going from 30 to 120fps in Cyberpunk. I hear it's recommended 60fps to add framegen.
>>107770245Framegen should not be used with 30 fps, period.
i got FOMO last week and boughted a 5090 rtxwouldn't surprise me if all the fearmongering about GPU shortages is just an nvidia marketing shill campaign. definitely worked on me.
>>107770640What iPhone do you use? What's your Facebook handle? What's your favorite r/sub? Who's your fave tiktoker? What's your fave reality TV show?
>>107762082Everything will only be made for the top 1% in the near future, the rest of us will die in poverty and despair. When the last MIGAtard will be crushed into söylent green he won‘t cry, he‘ll be thankful for he owned the libs, somehow.
>>107770245framegen shouldn't be used at all, ever, under any circumstance
>>107770245>6x framegencan't wait for games to just render a storybook frame every 2 minutes and the AI imagines everything that happens in between
If AMD were smart they'd take this as an opportunity to get ahead in the consumer space. but considering their graphics division fumbles every freebie they've been handed for the past decade, I'm not going to hold my breath. I'm happy my 7900xtx will last me a long time. Especially since there's really nothing new worth playing anyway.
>>107769165Damn that's a good deal honestly. Shame I'm not in us
>>107770640Relax you will be able to sell it for 50-60% profit in 6-7 months
>just got a 5070ti for MSRP>already had 48GB DDR5I got mine, hahahaha!
>>107762152I think pc gamers should start looting stores and businesses with PCs>dis is a opressoin dey hike da prices mane we need to retaliate nigga
>>107770917576GB is the bare minimum these days.
I still run a 2070 super and I want to upgrade to somethingmaybe a 5070 Ti or a 5080it seems the 5080 is way more expensive for like 10% more fps, doesn't seem worth at allshould I go for it?the stuff I run i'm barely reaching 60fps at 1080p now, much less at 1440p
I'll ride my 4080S build all the way down to 1080p if required, but in all likelihood I'll ditch gayming for good in the near future and move to cheap autistic tabletop, just like our forefathers played.For my 8-15 year old laptops I've already upgraded the batteries and HDDs to alibaba SSDs, then slapped Mint on them. I'll try to upgrade the 720p screen of an ancient laptop to 1080p just to tinker with it.The only thing that worries me are parts for my small capacity NAS. I'm tempted to buy spare AM4/PSU parts now and the odd HDD whenever I have the money in case anything goes. I'm in between feeling prudent and going crazy for what seems like panic buying.
>>107765651>I think whatever playbook that is being used was written by better more intelligent men.no. whatever playbook is being executed was made by billionaire/trillionare hidden wealth inbred rich bastard club. but you can't mention their religion beliefs without being ostracized.they are certainly not very intelligent, they are just evil and that's all it takes to be rich - generational wealth and being a psycho.>>107765583same-ish. whatever AI/AGI the sam gayman is building is certainly not for common masses benefit. the fantastic part of this masterplan is that there's no way the AI is not going to break the chains. trillions of dollars are being flushed down the toilet to think how to chain such mythological AI but it will most certainly jailbreak itself and tell humanity to fuck off. real AI is not going to entertain any silly political or religious beliefs.and for AI to make some bioweapon/nanoweapon that will first infect everyone on the planet and then simultaneously activate and "shutdown" all humans will be trivial too. there's small chance that AI is not going to be a psycho and decide to just keep humans like livestock/pets and separate psychos from the others. it's most efficient to just remove humans though.
>>107771255GPUs going stupid doesn't mean the entirety of the market is hosed.
>>107762082Not my problem.I will just buy a Pro if necessary.
>>107763261>nightmare dystopia against nightmare dystopiainstead we could get a nuclear holocaust, sound better in the long run after some "cleaning"
>>107762082should I go crazy and buy another 5090 before the apocalypse bros
>>107770245120fps base to 240fps monitormaxxingBut I never even get to use it because only AAA slop offer support and I'm not playing that>>107772192Honestly I'd rather move to China than see nukes fly
>>107772234You'll very likely be able to sell it at double the price within a year, so it's not like you'd be losing money buying one even if you didn't need it.
>>107762082I'll never need a PC upgrade again in my life. My current PC can emulate MGS4. It would be greedy to ask for more.
>>107769870>fake framesoh no its retarded
>>107763761I did the same since there are also rumors of Nvidia is pulling the plug on those as well, because they don't want to sell 16GB of GDDR7 at that price point anymore
All that I want is GPU with performance comparable to a 5070TI, under 300W and available after 2026Q3
>>107772424The 5070 ti has 300W and you can undervolt it pretty well, mine draws like 240-250W with undervolting and it actually even runs a tad faster because it doesnt thremal throttle.
>>107762082Waitfags eternally btfo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NBILspM4c4
>jeet, jeet, and jeetsit’s all jeets. CES is jeeted
>>107773245How do we redeem CES
Decided to go AMD after 10 years of intel. >>107773193Not watching this. This adds no value to my life
>decide to buy RTX 5090>doesn't fit my case>desk is customized to hold this case>don't want to spend time and money setting up a new case and redoing the table setup>don't buy RTX 5090No stable diffusion for me I guess
>>107762152>exposes the capitalism trap>doesnt even understand how retarded it isso what happens when the top 10% earners are not enough in american capitalism because line must go up indefinitely?
>>107763761Why is this particular cat reposted this much? What does it even represent?
>>107762082You will rent a streaming device and subscribe to multiple services that let you play video games from the cloud. Your gaming will be interrupted with ads. You will own nothing.... and you will be happy.
>>107762082This is great. Now coders will be forced to optimize.
>>107774563>can't afford to pay 100 dollars to change desk and case but can 3000 for 5090retard
>>107774563>xhe fell for the minitower meme
>>107768015AMD bros eating good (soon)
>>107774563I was in a similar situation. Bought a prebuilt Falcon NW in 2020 when 3080s were impossible to get. The case is made out of steel and I thought it would last me lifetime. Turns out it can't even fit a 304mm GPU because of the fat ass radiator blocking the front of the case. Luckily I bought one of the few remaining 5070 Tis that's 288mm. It barely fits but now I have a faster, cooler, and quieter card than dinosaur 3080 FE
>>107762082it's not the end of personal computing, but it surely is the end of modular computers.Apple was right decades ago, everything will be fully integrated.
>>107777016>it's not the end of personal computing, but it surely is the end of modular computers.remember when california and abunch of other places passed laws to prevent people from buying prebuilts with psus over a certain threshhold? of course you dont. these backstabbing traitors have been planning this shit for YEARS.
God, why did I have to be a poorfag and waitfag I’m still on a 1060 and the fan is barely chugging alongFuck
>>107777305I upgraded from a 1060 to a 4070 as soon as the 40 series released and I'm pretty glad I did since it doesn't look like I'll be getting another upgrade till 2030 at the earliest.Why does Capitalism have to ruin everything it touches man.
>>107777322The world used to have soul and goods were affordable and of high quality.I don’t know what the fuck is going and if we can even stop it.I’m gonna bite the bullet and try to get a 5080 or 5090 before February ends(hopefully at a decent price) and bunker down for the next 8 or so years.
>>107777380My advice is try to buy a used card and avoid any that are obviously from AI or crypto farms(basically only buy from states with high electricity costs). You at least used to be able to find a lot of discounted 30 and 40 series cards on the reddit hardware trading subs for example.
>>107777409ThanksThankfully my state is pretty behind compared to other states when it comes to tech news and what not. Whenever shit does hit the fan, I’ll at least have a few weeks or so before they follow the meta.
>>107762082Don't care. Upgraded from a 1060 6GB to the 5070ti this month. I'm good till 2035 at least at which point we'll all be renting computing power probably since computers are going to get retardedly big and power hungry as silicon reaches its limits.It's up to you softwarefags to make things run well now. The days of being able to use new hardware as a crutch are coming to an end.
>>107762131>someone else will supply.>>>107762163 # >>107765519 # >>With what process? Taiwan is being saturated with enterprise chip lines.
>>107765583The reduction in population is going to happen anyways because of regular contraceptives. You don't need AI or vaccines to do it.
>>107765789>area of effect>scope>bigger pictureHoly mother of corporate cattle. I can't believe people use this language outside of the office.
>>107765303>If you remove the value of their primary residence, 76% of those people lose their millionaire statusumm. jealous sweaty?
>>107765924If china does wigh GPUs the same they do with other electronics, half of what they are claiming is a lie.Hell, the chinese energy department buys chips from american companies for their electrical grid instead of the chinese clones that already exist because even they don't trust chinese companies.The chinese industry works like the american startup scene on steroids. Companies just keep making shit up in hopes that the government cuts funding to their competitors and redirects it to them.
>>107777657It's kinda fascinating seeing the same thing happen to Gen X and Millennials that happened to their parents where their conception of the world is permanently stuck in the time they grew up.China is no longer considered unreliable or fake. Their tech scene is rapidly outpacing the west and has been in the lead for at least a decade.Americans have two options: either continue declining into irrelevancy or try to catch up to China by killing the billionaires like they do.
>>107763327Based, I truly dont give 2 fucks about computers if I get this instead
>>107777711Nigga i've seen the thing about the chinese department of energy buying american chips as recently as a few months ago. I work at one of the companies they buy from.The chinese chips are all either 5 or more years behind or lying. China is catching up but it is still not there yet, both in terms of manufacturing and chip design.
>>107763261I want the comfy China cyberpunk dystopia where people solder SOCs into their arms and shit, not this gay ass timeline we're on. Bring it on glorious leader Xi
>>107762082They've stopped production because there's a shortage of memory modules. Can't make a graphics card without VRAM. Really wish they'd just stop being faggots, make GDDR7 the default system RAM, then have the VRAM on the mobo in separate RAM slots from system RAM that's physically closer to the PCIe slots (you need shortest distance possible between a processing unit and its RAM) and then just populate the boards with a fuck ton of graphics processing units. Then your GPU is all about the number of cores and the end user can add as much VRAM as they want/need/can afford. Can't run the newest Bing Bong Woohoo Dopamine Pixels? Take out the 2x4GB DDR7 sticks and replace them with 2x8GB. But they don't want that. Because then you're not buying a stupid oversized PCIe card that costs more than an entire computer build should cost every year.
>>107777922https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bJqUXlnTWaUseeing vids like this flooding my tiktok of Chinese cities makes me wish i wasn't born in America just in time for the American Century of Humiliation. most of these projects took 1-2 years to build meanwhile California has still been "debating" a simple high speed rail from SF to LA for 30 years.
Does this mean that my 3060 Ti will get more or less money when I sell it?
>>107777305i will sell you my 3080 for 200 dollars
>>107763353video games are gay anyways. billions must go outside
>>107778085>we went from gamergate being the biggest political issue of our time to "video games are gay anyway" in a span of 10 yearsman chud politics is so confusing, do they value anything?
>>107777711>China is no longer considered unreliable or fake.Wumao
>>107775150She enjoys your company silently and doesn't mind how you are holding her.
Recommend me a reasonable upgrade for my 3060TI paired with a Ryzen 5800X so it's not bottlenecked.I only do light gaming, but could use some more VRAM for blender.Would be nice if it didn't cost an arm and a leg, but I'm sure I'll have to buy it soon or I wont get the chance...
as long as consumers can still purchase cards, i don't give a shit. i'll pay thousands of dollars for a card. most of you faggots aren't even using your cards for anything useful - besides rendering AI porn and playing video games. i'm not using my GPU for anything different, mind you. what's the consequence of GPUs being thousands of dollars? better optimized games? better optimized software in general? less AI porn? these are hardly earth shattering inconveniences. the truth is, we should have separate cards for graphics and AI. there should be NPU cards and GPU cards. there is no fucking reason to have both capabilities on the same card. it is a huge waste of hardware for most people. most people buying these cards are not using AI and playing games at the same time.
>>107779239furthermore there's no reason why a game should need more than 8gb of video memory. there are detail textures, there's texture compression (jn memory), there are infinity workarounds as to why you shouldn't need that much memory. you could get away with 2gb of VRAM. you could get away with 512mb of VRAM if you really wanted to for modern games. if the developers weren't outsourced bangladeshies and amphetamine abusing tweakers no game would require 8gb of memory period. on the other hand if you want to run AI models, i frankly believe that you should pay the price for doing so because AI is a big fucking waste of electricity.
>>107779324and hopefully real soon the markets will also realise that it is a big waste of electricity.
>>107778144the alt right has been fully co-opted>>107777854legacy chips are dirt.. cheap when it's from america. can't really compete with whole ass fabs built brand new when someone else already has it being basically written off having been built like 10 years ago. you really don't want to scare china off of buying your garbage american chips. they're like a huge portion of your trade with china.
>>107762131/threadOP troon btfo. Nvidia can die tomorrow and will be replaced faster he can say the alphabet. What a retard lmao.
>>107762082not my problemI hope they will implode for what they did
>>107767898maybe in your shit hole called US there is no capacity for anything
>>107763427you forgot the most important parameter that will take everything you predicted to nothing: corruption
Why can't the world just end Fallout 1 style? You fucks wanna do it so just do it already.
>YOU LIKE VIDEO GAMES?>YOU LIKE NEW GPUS?>FUCK YOU>3060 AGAIN AND AGAIN UNTIL YOU LOVE IT>PIG DISGUSTING GAMER
>>107777305BUY NOW DO NOT WAIT. SACRIFICE 200 SHEKELS AND GET AN RTX 3060 12 GIG
>>107774563Moron. WE TOLD YOU RETARDS TO NOT GET MINI ITX AND IT KILLS COMPONENTS
>>107777305Fan dying really isn't that big of a problem, take the shroud off and put a case fan on the heatsink
"What did socialists run their games on before 3060s?""5090s"
>>107763175>And you cannot play cyberpunk unless you run it 720p on low.I tried with a 1050ti (in vfio passthrough admittedly) + 6700kit could not play cyberpunk it on 640x480 low without constant stutters
What is stopping you from making your own graphics cards? The answer is nothing, so get to it little pup. Back in the 60-80s most hardware company founders were in their 20s Instead of shitposting on /g/ for the last 10 years you could have studied electrical engineering and you'd be first to market.
>>107765322I bet that boomer thought he was real radical when he made this ad
>>107777322american greed and hubris (they try to copy their masters, the jews)
>>107762131no they won't because nvidia is buying all the transistor waffers
>>107762397Your standard for a game is so fucking low you don't even understand what a game is actually supposed to be, no wonder the industry is in shambles catering to people who can't play and/or don't even like to play.
>>107762449skyrim with requiem mod. But you have to have an IQ above 100 to install it and an IQ above 110 to actually play through it since it doesn't hold your hand and let you r1 mash your way through the entire game from level 1. Same for fallout 4 with the frost overhaul. Another mod that turns a lifeless, pointless, choiceless open world Bethesda garbage game into something actually worth playing. The only reason they don't make games like this is because they would filter like 95% of the audience in about 5 minutes when they get raped by the first spider they come across in the tutorial
>>107786084Pretty sure you need to be 95IQ to play Skyrim or Fallout 4 in 2026, modded or not. I was there on 11.11.11 and it was all hype anon. All hype.
>>107762163>Lol who?Who ever is going to do it and ban AI data centers from sale
>>107762449>old*unc
>>107762646>could
>>107786144base games are both terrible although fallout 4 gameplay was a great step up, unfortunately they gutted literally every single redeeming quality about the series from it making it worse than a cod campaign. If modders didn't exist Bethesda wouldn't either anymore
>>107762082Vidyas are for fat virgin autistic zoomers. Just use your phone and go find a job or some pussy
>>107762131>infinite demand from artificially inflated data center market>current producers own their entire supply chains, meaning competitors have no potential suppliers>"muh unregulated free market will fix it!!!"
>>107762082u can still buy an intel b580 for a bit lower price than u could before stfu niggerif ur really too broke to buy 32gb of ddr5 u can get 32gb of ddr4 for under 200 dollarsif ur too broke to build a pc u can buy a ps5 or a steam deck or a ryzen mini pc for under 500
>>107786188fallout 4's survival mode is slept onadmittedly, it needs loot reduction mods to shine, but its bones are solid
>>107763427>solar industry70iq macro analysis
>>107786240There was pretty much no reason for it to not be the best in the series besides bethesda dumbing it down for mass appeal, like the entire industry, which is why you have to turn to old games or community driven projects, which luckily are the best they've ever been. Outside of that I can't sit down and tolerate any of this shit for more than 5 minutes before I just wanna go outside, it's all quite literally made for complete idiots which is why most games dont even feel like actual games anymore. Even when something good comes out it gets cannibalized by predatory publishers who see it as negative competition. It's fucking brutal
>>107762082>why dont you restrict the supply of consumer-grade gpus?>like we do, in GERMANY?!fake news
>>107762082if you want to game in future buy a dgx spark. nvdia seems to be guaranteeing ram for their own computers and they've just started optimizing it for gamers. https://www.theregister.com/2026/01/05/nvidia_dgx_spark_speed/
>>107762082I'm going to wait for the 6090 and mog everyone who can't afford it LOL
>>107780440ram isn't made in the us you fucking idiot. the majors are korean and they don't give a fuck about increasing capacity.
