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>>107763554Somebody red-pill me on Keycron. Should I get the Q6 Max or the K10 HE Special Edition?
anything more is a waste of money
>>107764142To you, of course.
>>107764101K10. If you want a metal chonker with non HE switches, go custom. MUCH better options for that price there.
>>107764142>I can't afford anything more expensive than X so anything more expensive than X is bad.This mentality permeates every hardware thread on /g/. I really wish this board had flags to make it easier to ignore third worldies and their sour grapes. Enjoy the (you) and I'll enjoy the thread bump.
>>107764220>i paid more for thing, therefore it's better!i fished my sk8115 out of a university dumpster like 12 years ago and it's never given me issues, feels great to type on, and has a roll over of at least 10 (i ran out of fingers after that)this piece of shit is durable and reliable and will outlast me
>>107764404That's good to hear, anon. This thread is for hobbyists and consumers of mechanical keyboards.
Any southpaw Hall effect keyboards besides this one?>>107764101get this if you want the only magnetic left side numpad
Cherry forever
I meditate by actuating unlubed MX Blacks one at a time, 10,000 times per meditation day. I spend the whole day actuating MX Blacks.
>>107764035722 is so fucking ugly, especially that accent bar
>>107764935At Geonworks, there is an F1 for everyone.Wait for the F2-84 V2, that thing is gonna be SIIIIICK
>>107764101Q standard for $60 and not a dollar more
>>107765369Based. Fuck spending hundreds on non-customs. Baion only
>>107764101It's 2026, get a +84 or something, spending $200 on a keychrone is beyond retarded
Baion
>>107763554literally no beige in this image
>>107765813If someone wants to take all the Keychron customers with a good custom board, I'm all for it. Good luck to them. But they're going to have to make it1. actually full-size, not TKL2. not retarded-looking, so not the Ticktype DP104 or the Chilkey ND1043. $200ish or under, so not the Class100Intro S100 was good. We need more of that.
>>107764035Best-looking F1 in my opinion. Although I'm not all that fond of Geon's visual design in general.
>>107766744Marketing calls it modern beige, sometimes light dolch.
What's a good fit for someone who simply wants a long lasting full keyboard with a volume knob for around $100 USD? My rubber dome is starting to have issues after 21 years of service. I've tried out the Cherry KC 200 MX and that felt alright, but otherwise I know nothing of switches.
>>107767445Whatever has the highest ratings on Amazon.
>>107767635I don't often see Amazon and durability together.
>>107767445I'd be very surprised if you got 20 years out of a Cherry MX keyboard. They're not designed for it.Not aware of any that at $100 with a knob that I'd consider long-lasting. I'm a little suspicious of Keychron, especially with hotswap. I've only had mine for a year or so, and I don't use it daily, but it's fine so far.
>>107763554Bros, is this keyboard any good?>https://wooting.io/wooting-two-he
>>107764481that's unfortunately still the only southpaw HE
>>107767845Some of the best latency and software in a Hall effect imo. The V2 Lekker switches were decent for HE at the time when it launched, but there's better these days. Though being hot swappable you can always upgrade em to something like the Geon Raw HE, Gateron Jade Pro HE or w/e the current popular choice is for HE these daysI'm not deep in the keyboard rabbit hole, but Wooting has a modest community for modding. Build quality isn't top tier with an aluminum case or something, but still passable. It honestly just needs a refresh/update like some of their other boards have gotten - but given the limited good full sized layout HE options on the market atm, I still think it's a viable buy. I'm still waiting for my NyPhy to support analog controller emulation like my old Wooting
>>107767839Are any mechanical keyboards designed for it or should I look for an eBay listing of a new in box version of my old keyboard some old woman has sitting in her garage?
>>107768097Start hunting anon
>blacks on alu
>>107767873I was thinking maybe get a TKL or 80% HEthen settle for a cheap mechanical numpad and put it on the lefteg GMK26
>>107767445it’s already been said earlier but any keychron Q standard for $60. that’s the best value for under $100 right now imo. you’re getting a gasket mounted alu board with qmk that costed over $200 just a few years ago. it’s not as good as a custom board but you’d be spending literally hundreds more at that point. do a little research on switches and spend the last $40 on something other than the stock gaterons they come with. I recommend any HMX tactile, probably HMX bruise
>>107768769Maybe I'm just a retard, but I don't see any of the Keychron Q series with 100% full and a volume knob.
>>107764404happy for you or sorry that happened
>>107768943These are basically clearance prices. I just checked and Q6 is marked back up and sold out. You could have probably gotten it if you asked a few weeks ago, sorry man.I don’t know how flexible you are on layout but there is an 1800 with knob but only in an ugly ano blue for $90https://www.keychron.com/collections/keychron-q-series-keyboard/products/keychron-q5-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboardalso a 75%https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q1?variant=39898878705753$90 for a full alu board is still a good deal, just not as good. I wouldn’t pay any more for a keychron tho
>>107763554> the only brand worth a damn doing PT-PT layout is DuckyWhat a fucking gay earth this is.
>>107769039I don't mind the blue, but the layout I couldn't handle. I need the full keypad with the long 0. Thanks for the links, though.
>>107769065You might just want to get a legacy brand like a filco or something, unfortunately I don’t think that’s gonna be hotswap so you’ll be stuck with whatever switches it comes it and it’ll just be injection molded, but that’s probably the best you’ll be able to do for your budget. I don’t really know a lot of good prebuilts.
MX Blacks are the best tactile switches on the market, and MX Browns are the best linear switches.
Based Geon
What are the switches inside a Razer BlackWidow RZ03-0039?The switches are blue when I pop off the keycaps and I think I can see an "Outemu" logo but I can't make it out well enough.
>>107769731are they clicky?
>>107769741Yeah, they're clicky. Not very loud and they have a smooth travel with little resistance.
>>107769762then they're probably just outemu blues, dawg
>>107768489that's not a left handed numpad.this is.
>>107769769Hey, I'm no switch expert.Plus this is a Windows Vista/7-era board (so not the Win10 version I used as a picture), based on the Windows key.
>>107766218is a cuckI still got in on the synovia (the recent one, not his og design that sounded like a tin can)
Baion bad
$22
>>107771332looks like you ripped it out of an elevator
>>107772201>>107770928stop posting any time
Do coomers really?
I see the tranny%er is still having a meltdown after being buckbroken by GODsize kings. Can you imagine saving those gay ass images to your device because anons bantered a bit too hard with you about keyboards?It's even more absurd sounding after typing it out.
>>107772657these always look like shit
Holy FUCK
Any neon green keyboards?
Hello /mkg/, I've been using a cheap ass HP office slim (sk 2028?) for over 7 years now an its starting to give me issues (and the keys are very shinny and WASD are scratched/damaged from extensive use).>Pic related (not my actual keyboard but its the same model)This cheap piece of plastic gathers a bunch of key features I'd like in my next keyboard:>100% keyboard>low profile (really like this)>key distribution is nice and packedDownsides>kinda loud as fuckI cannot for the life of me get used to playing games on keyboards with those high profile / fat clickity clacks, but I'd love my keyboard to not make a shitload of noise as I tap away at it writing essays/works etc, or playing FPS, and the keyboard world is full of trash and overpriced stuff. Can the keyboard wizards of /mkg/ help? I know it's ridiculous to ask Mechanical Keyboard General for non-mechanical keyboard advice but I can't think of any other place to ask and I don't use reddit, and most of my friends either have loud ass keyboards or some bizarre 60% thing where they then can't perform misc actions on Arma3 >t. budget <100$
I want a hall effect keyboard for less than $100. any options for me?
>>107773759There's tons of chinesium stuff that'd fit the bill and they're all so similar it's kinda hard to name just one brand. You'll probably find at least half a dozen on amazon or aliexpress that you could try with minimal risk, at least with the former.
>>107772657Nope, tits way too small and off-brand anime "art" is disgusting. Don't insult me.
>>107773922anything that isnt chinese?
>>107763554Just buy Topre.
>>107774343do naevies count?
>>107774280Everything's Chinese, just roll the dice.
>>107774280Unfortunately no, like that other anon said. There is always at least some degree of chinesium in most tech products now, you just have to look around to see if people say it'll last long enough for you personally or take a relatively low risk with something you can send back within 30 days almost no questions asked like you can with amazon.
Is there anything I can buy today that is similar to the Epomaker GK96LS, possible without the function key row?Also, what is the current meme programmable 40 key
>>107772201I like how guys look so cute these days.
Are there any endgame HMX linears or are they all clackslop for foamcucks?
>>107774343I did, but now I prefer the form factor of my split keyboard.>>107774369How are they as a Topre substitute?
>>107775403I wouldn't know, I've never actually used real topre so I have no frame of reference. They feel ok, but I haven't heard good or bad things about them. I've only heard dynacap is on point.
>tfw 60% cucked keyboard >tfw have to use FN keys to use use arrow keysShould I get a bigger keyboard? or should I just get pic related??
>>107775432Alright then, thanks. Have you tried NiZ switches? I borrowed someone's 35g NiZ keyboard once and I quite enjoyed it. Unfortunately, I don't think you can buy a set of 35g NiZ switches.>>107775474Depends. Do you like the keyboard anyway? How often do you use the arrow keys? How much does that thing cost? If there's a group of keys you never use, maybe you could rebind those to be your arrow keys. I turned a row of useless keys into a Vim-style arrow key layout because I otherwise liked my keyboard too much.
The pricing on the upcoming Neo boards is crazy, didn't think they could go that low.
>>107775474this is why split space is supreme. even without split space, you can still use spacefn1 and put nav+arrows across homerow that way. that's what I do when I use 60s
>>107775573>Do you like the keyboard anyway?yeah its a Ducky One Mini. And I use the arrow keys frequently enough to get annoyed that I have to press and Hold Fn. The thing I posted is random chink shit off amazon, costs 20 bucks. I guess I should buy that rather than another keyboard for 80 bucks plus
i bought a flux how much am i going to regret it
>>107775584Is that the CU one or something else?
Flex cut alu is Baion tier.
>>107775678Neo98 / Neo75. No CU.
HRT
>>107774963https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005009731208333.html>>107775474Swap caps for fn and use wasd or hjkl for arrow keys
Get your G on
I charged my keyboard on October 19th. It just went out of battery today. I WFH, shitpost on 4chan all day, and then play wow until bed. 3700mAh battery 3.7V, 980C with hasu BT controller.
>>107769795finally someone with some common fucking sense
>>107775474ye pair it with picrel for the most retarded setup
>>107769795>We need to have this argument for the 100th time because I can't think of anything else to post aboutNo. Fuck off.
>>107777361no, he got the right spirit but he still retarded for having numbers right to left.left handed or right handed we read right to left here in the western part of the world, that's how we order shit
>>107777400>right to left*left to right my bad.
>>107775584Yeah it's at that point where I'm in danger of ordering one just because it's cheap. I've had to really make a point of stopping myself from doing that. "Do I want to acquire 3 cheap keyboards over the next 3 years, or one keyboard that I really like?"I hope that stops me this time. GB window aint over yet.
>>107777411so you count to 1 by raising your ring finger?odd.
Gateron Jupiter Red, Brown and Banana.Are any of these like MX Clears where the bump is before the actuation or are they all after like most switches?
>>107778019>bump after actuationhuh?
>>107778019MX Clears actually have the bump closer to actuation and I think part of the tactile event might happen during the actuation. Gateron Jupiter Reds are linears and the Browns and Bananas are all tactile bumps at the very top of the press instead of partway, so they're technically "before" but that kind of tactility feels a good bit different compared to Browns or Clears, or things like clickbar or click leaf switches.Personally I'm not much of a fan, they kinda feel like clunky linears or weaker rubber domes to me but other people go feral over that style of tactility.
>>107777985>counts with his fingerslemme guess you're also drooling while doing it
ive been mousing with the keyboard latelymakes me wondering if theres any legitimacy to those keyboards with trackballs/touchpad or even joystick, for now just using keys to mouse the cursor is fine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyVnIiRxGLgWooting x TenZ Takeover
Buy Geon only and you'll never have to fret over hoarding cheaper boards.
>>107778522the only one drooling 24/7 is you.
For me, it's Geon tootsies.
hell yeah
>>107778378>MX Clears actually have the bump closer to actuation and I think part of the tactile event might happen during the actuation. Gateron Jupiter Reds are linears and the Browns and Bananas are all tactile bumps at the very top of the press instead of partway, so they're technically "before" but that kind of tactility feels a good bit different compared to Browns or Clears, or things like clickbar or click leaf switches.Thank you for this, this answered my question perfectly when whatever the fuck I did I couldn't find it.I really like this kind of switch because I'm sort of a haphazard typer and that sort of bump near the beginning helps me prevent mistypes massively.
Your WPMKey profile (high/low)Switch type
>>107780864Spring swap them to long 22mm bouncy boiiis and it'll be even better.
>>107780935MX Blacks on Alu L/F/SSGMK CYL35 WPM.
>>107764933You are an American, yes?
>>107780989made me laugh faggot
>>107780935>Your WPMThis is such a meaningless metric without more information.
>>107775332I guess it answered itself.
>>107764101I have a q1 max. While it is very nice to type on, the bt/cable/wifi switch on the top is really unreliable. I’ve had the daughterboard replaced under warranty and it still doesn’t work right.
MX Blaecks
You can't claim to be a hobbyist who hand lubes his MX Blacks and then lets a machine take care of breaking them in. You have to do it by hand, one switch at a time.
>>107780935>Your WPM83>Key profile (high/low)Cherry/high>Switch typeLinear
Holy FUCKMX Blacks on Alu feels REAL GOOD
>>107780864In the future if you ever feel like trying other switches see if they have force curves, preferably done by third parties that look something like this. I guess manufacturer curves are good enough if all you care about it seeing how far down the tactile event is during the key press, at least from memory, but if you care about specific weightings do not trust manufacturer force curves at all.Though it's a good bet that if it's a newer tactile switch it's the "tactile at the top/front loaded tactile" and whatever else people call them. Ones that emulate Clears will sometimes say "Clear/Ergo Clear tactility" instead in their descriptions or specs.
>>107780935Averages 100-130.Been sticking with MT3 or similar.Tactile or clicky.>>107781369True, some people boast about high wpm and it's often all lowercase words with no punctuation. Typing at least medium length quotes and needing accuracy in the test is a far more comprehensive metric for giving legitimacy to someone's wpm.It's more impressive to type a sustained 110wpm for two paragraphs than 180wpm for 10 lowercase words.
>>107783807>english 500>lowercase>no punctuation>no numbers>15 second time limit>"yup, I can do 150wpm"
>>107754622>>107754907>>107754908After using it in the office for a couple of days a coworker did say without prompting that the new board was much quieter. So I guess it really was a worthwhile improvement.
oops wrong tab disregard
>>107784520Naturally. -5dB is significant on its own, and especially in the context of a keyboard.
>>107764101Q's aren't worth the money imo. K HE series are good value, nice sound, have some metal frame, come with same keycaps/switches/sensorsQ is for that "premium" feel/heft, nothing else. and teh knob. a nice middle ground is Lemokey P1 HE, full metal body, knob, cheaper than Q series, nicer than K series, still HE, also got wifi/bt. look for deals on it. ISO version comes with OSA PBT keycaps
>>107784520>Coworker found the silent switches too loudCoworkers are all literally this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDLpHaGvM-U
>>107785405>Coworkersproximity induced "friends". yuck
>>107785405Ok but she was clearly in the wrong in that scene
>Mister! Miiister!>come on in!>you know how many times I called uBreakiFix till they fixed me up with you?>I know! But I insisted I needed their most experienced man because I needed help assembling my keyboard, it's got vintage-style keys you know!>here it is! It's from Korea, it looks real small but it's thick and heavy in alllll the right places, hahaha!>yeah I like Korean brands, my makeup's all from there, I kinda dig it...>these are old school mechanical switches, I'm sure you're familiar with them! MX Blacks, a staple of the mechanical keyboard community!>now I've tried to put these together by myself, but it's my first time and I really want to get it right.>I've been looking forward to this day for so long, mister...>yeah! Assembling the keyboard! You had something else on your mind?>a special kind of something, something?>I'm just kidding! Don't worry mister, I'll pay extra for overtime.>right now, look. I've been at this all morning, and I'm late for my bath. I got this board in the soldered configuration, so right now I just want you to solder these switches onto the PCB.>we'll figure out what to do next after I've had my bath, I've got some ideas I wanna see you work with my->I MEKEYBOARD! I MEAN-UGHH!
Hey /g/uise. So I've been using my Keychron K10 for almost 5 years now and even though before just changing the switches was enough, I feel like it's about to die.I'm looking for a mechanical keyboard which has the same build quality and feel.I spend most of my time writing and coding, but I also do some light gaming (mainly DOTA).I also use MX Cherry blue, because I love the feel and my wrists/hands are heavy so I tend to type with a lot of strength. I honestly love how it feels but I might enjoy something slightly softer.Any help?
>>107785834Just message support to buy a new compatible PCB.
>>107785834>I feel like it's about to die.I believe you, but why? 5 years is pathetic
>>107785941I don't mind buying an entire new keyboard desu and I also want to test out other brands. Also, I'm not from the US and shipping is expensive, so might as well get a full keyboard.>>107785976No idea, random ghosting even after replacing switches, randomly will change the Ctr + key command which is very annoying when I'm working.I lived in the woods for a few years where there would be tons of dust and also drastic changes between tons of humidity and dryness, so maybe since my keyboard was more exposed than the rest of my hardware it was the first thing to go
