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>If it breaks down at 1 in the morning, in the U.S. it will be fixed the next morning, but in Taiwan, it will be fixed at 2 a.m.

MADE IN AMERICA
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china should just take over taiwan already and save us
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So uh, this is a problem with TSMC. If they want people on-call that's their job to figure out. Why are they complaining to the news their employees are working their normal assigned shifts? Most manufacturing companies have 4 shifts of techs and trades for 24/7 on-site incident response. Is that the labor costs they're complaining about? Do they want people to work for free? Skilled labor is only about 2x as expensive in the US as it is in Taiwan so to me this stinks of embezzlement, they just want more money from Uncle Sam.
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>>107764199
No shit lmao
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>>107764199
why? even in the west you can pay people extra to be on call.
also post source, faggot.
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>>107764199
>hire only beaners and pajeets
>WHY IS NOTHING WORKING??????
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le westerner don't want to work news number 5000

there's probably nothing happening in those fabs and you've got some dudes going around getting paid to lie that there's actually something happening;
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>>107764199
>us competence bankrupts tsmc
kek
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>>107764221
I don't know what's taking them so long. We've even given them the perfect pretext by effectively annexing Venezuela. Maybe they're way more into the "muh international rules-based order" thing than we are.
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Imagine being this shit, you truly are the retards of the first world.
>i-it's all the jeets, I swear-
It's not.It's you. You've always been like this.
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>>107764252
>to me this stinks of embezzlement, they just want more money from Uncle Sam.
Yeah. That's been obvious for years. They keep saying the USA has a skilled labor shortage so they can't staff their fabs but 1) that's moot since they won't fucking finish building any of them and 2) when pressed on the criteria they admitted they just wanted more people who spoke Chinese lmfao.
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>>107764199
How is it that Americans are simultaniously worked like dogs, yet have poor work ethic?
I don't get this narrative no more.
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>>107764199
I refuse to believe anyone thought Arizona could produce chips at the price Taiwan, China can.
But I also don't see how it is actually a problem. The point of those fabs is technological sovereignty, not volume for civilian uses, so all they have to do is forcing the Pentagon to buy at x3 marke price.
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>>107764389
Actually Indians is the only explanation that makes it make sense.
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>>107764252
It's not like fab work is impossible for the US, even intel still makes money with it's chips.

>>107764389
Depends on the industry
Blue collar sees more than 40 hours with up to 60 hours while office jobs are 40 hours max.

The US in particular has a pretty ridged working culture when it comes to skilled versus unskilled. If unskilled, you might run into situations where you might work like a dog.
If skilled at all, you don't expect a very rigorous work week.
TSMC's issue is expecting VERY skilled workers to do shit like 996. Shit don't fly in the US. It's not even lazyness, it's just a question of why work for a skilled labor job if you don't have time to enjoy the money?
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>>107764516
>while office jobs are 40 hours max.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>107764359
taiwan is not ruled by a drug cartel tho
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>>107764524
I guess if you work at anyone of elon's shitholes they expect 100 hours a week but very few are working more than 40 involuntary
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>>107764516
If you imagine the only two jobs that exist are field service technicians and asynchronous e-salesmen then yeah you'll get that dichotomy but plenty of people get paid huge money to do field work at night because they need some brain power for the job, and plenty of office workers work over 40 hours a week especially for seasonal variations like tax season for accountants, and plenty of mechanics slack/jack off all day some days, and plenty of people don't work jobs that you could really call white or blue collar, either cuz they're in between or outside it. You sound like either a tankie or mad your dad made you get a job.
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>>107764516
Anon, you're really, really wrong. I'm not going to ascribe malice to it, but the retards on reddit who posted about how they did 1 hour of work past month are not indicative of actual work hours here, particularly salaried people.
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There's an ongoing leftist cultural shift towards self-entitlement, cynicism, and relative morality. This creates all sorts of problems, one of which is worker laziness. They automatically see their employer as an exploiter, so they see any level of work ethic as synonymous to exploitation and slavery.
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>>107764389
If you've ever worked in a white-collar multinational, americans are like east-asians when it comes to working hours, though they aren't quite as stupid about it. What I mean here is that they "work" way over 40 hours and are usually "available", but don't actually work much when they're on the clock. It's all about looking like you're working. This still causes exhaustion in the people in question so it's the worst of all worlds.
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>you have to explain to Zhang Chong why LaQuesha is hired
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>>107764199
sorry, america doesn't do 996 for slave wages. how is treating employees reasonably supposed to be a bad thing?
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>>107764591
Your workplace sounds dysfunctional. Usually when someone is slacking off during work hours they're either trying to get back some previous after hours time or just having a rough day. It's obviously preferable to get work done during normal hours under normal circumstances. A lot of salaried people are available after hours but a lot simply aren't, and this usually isn't much of a career limiter, just a difference in approaching separation of work and home. It literally just does not bother some people at all to answer a text. Especially if you're actually good at your job, there's no real re-orientation of the brain at work start and stop.
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>>107764536
Neither was Venezuela THOUGH
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>>107764552
it's just meant to be a general overview, can't exactly break down every fucking job situation in a 4chan post
there is always exceptions and shit in the middle
the biggest difference in the US is whether or not your absolutely hated or not for doing a normal work week
People in higher up skilled positions (which are usually office jobs) aren't given as much shit
People in unskilled (which is mostly blue collar) might be forced to work more in an at-will state
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>Ronald Reagan was a mistake
>What do you MEAN by hiring Americans make things more expensive?
I only care about buying a computer for a cheap price.
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>>107764536
cia is literally THE drug cartel, schlomo
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>>107764664
>sounds dysfunctional
It is.

>does not bother some people at all
>there's no real re-orientation of the brain
>when someone is slacking off during work hours they're trying to get back some previous after hours time
These are all ways to imply it's NOT dysfunctional. It's either healthy normal behavior or it's not.

I do agree with you that this is basically just par for the course for salaried work though.
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>>107764516
>>107764676
It's exactly the opposite. blue collars go home at noon on Fridays and if they ever do have to work extra they get over time which is exactly why boss doesn't want them to. Salaried have to work 90 hour weeks just cuz. deadline says so! I don't care that the other 3 people working on the project got laid off we got deadlines!
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>>107764269
>lose clients
>pay extra
the jewish dilema
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Some things are mysteries.
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>>107764724
If your having to work more than a normal work week on a regular basis on s salaried job, your likely disposable. Or at the very least being treated like shit
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>>107764742
I haven't read the entire act but I work closely with a company receiving funding and the only strings attached are for apprenticeships that all seem to be going to total losers so they can be fired after 2 years without much fuss. The company in question no longer has a DEI program or staff at all so it can't be all that crucial.
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>>107764764
Not crucial until one of the "justice involved individuals" smashes your head open with a baseball bat.
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>>107764591
That sounds like East Asian work culture without the extra steps.
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>>107764791
>look up the murderer
>black
damn
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>>107764742
>talks about intel building fabs
what?
>article from march 2024
oh. can't you cite something a bit more recent with current news?
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>>107764815
>>look up the murderer
You couldn't tell just from his name? Fucktard.
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>>107764793
It's basically optimized East Asian overwork culture. IMO it's much more optimal because you will very quickly notice how much more work they get done than people doing crazy 996 hours despite not working as much.

Euros on the other hand do 25 hours a week and will work very hard for that time and refuse to even talk to you whenever they're "off" because they think 25 hours are 40 despite tracking everything down to the half-hour
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>>107764199
>company driven by what is effectively slave labour shocked to find that in countries where human beings have rights and you have to pay them that their profit margins go down

Why is this news, what the fuck did anyone think would happen
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>>107764839

most people in europe work 35/40 hours.
But yeah work culture is really about you fucking work.
at least in france , don't even think you'll jerk off around ,people will find something to do even if there's nothing to do and people tell you "there's always something to do" ,i call that "working for nothing".
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>>107764843
trickle-down economies or something
Modern Americans would unironically call pre-Reagan America a communist country.
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>>107764877
It was. The American Socialist Party supported the New Deal. And immigration was almost completely unrestricted for most of between 1750 and 1930.
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You're a faggot OP
https://wccftech.com/tsmc-us-expansion-crushes-the-company-chip-margin/
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>>107764221
>>107764359
It's still on track. China don't megaphone much of their shit like what happened in the trade war which they won last year.
>>107764536
Muttburgers falling for the drug meme are always on my bingo cards.
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>>107764199
you know TSMC's reports are public, in English and falsify this brown subhuman's "reporting" before it was ever published
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>>107764199
lol try printing money to cover the extra cost? economics 101.
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>>107764903
So other than labor costs being roughly double which has already been mentioned, the only higher cost is "depreciation." Everything else is cheaper. What is this "depreciation" and how are they measuring it? They should be depreciating less because they're older nodes so will only be used for stable manufacturing demand not consumer or server latest and greatest. I am 99.99% sure this is fraud. Which they'd be stupid not to do given the current admin.
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>>107764925
By the way I'm aware the next paragraph talks about it but it's AI-generated and describing a concept that is obviously not what depreciation means. And even if it was accurate it would be fixed by raising wafer ins.
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>>107764199
What they can't run maintenance on three shifts in the U.S??? That's what they do where I work in food production. If we break down and maintenance is there until 3rd shift maintenance comes in, then they just page third shift maintenance to take over and take the 30-minutes of overtime to hand-off the work and explain the situation.

Feels like an excuse desu
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>>107764941
You can't just raise wafer ins dude, they're certainly already running at their fab's capacity. If they tried it would just end up delaying wafer outs without increasing wafer outs.
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>>107764976
Also, if a line breaks down 5 minutes before shift-change, then we just wait the 5 minutes for third to come in and page then.
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>>107764386
Why would I want to work in a fab that could cut my hours at any time to boost c-suite earnings projections?
That's the narrative for Intel, look at Micron, look at corporate America.
Pay more for the risk or wonder why no one wants to work.
Watch as Asian countries realize how shit they have it in return. But there's Africa and South America still in the barrel. Watch as these globohomos can't pay any first worlders anymore for unknown reasons and try to appeal to Africa.
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>>107765018
I'm not too sure what you're referring to, I googled and couldn't find any announcement of Intel or Micron cutting anyone's hours. It's not a car factory, these things only require human intervention when something breaks, so they're already running on absolute skeleton crews. Less than 100 people per site per shift actually directly interacting with the manufacturing floor. Cutting anyone's hours would end up more expensive than saving within days.
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>>107765058
I meant lay offs. but interesting to know. I am considering fab work, but it seems there is potential for lay offs. the rest was a rant.
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>>107764199
Ofc its expensive to build in US, that's why there are no more industries anymore.
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>>107764221
Oh great, another 3 day special military operation.
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>>107764252
Found the street shitter.
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>>107764359
>effectively annexing Venezuela
Is that what you imagine just happened?
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The US only cares about building bubbles and wars.
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>>107765815
the us is the second largest manufacturer on the planet
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who could have seen this coming lmao
and they also want to build shit in "friday night shabbot shalom" israel?
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>>107764425
the problem is they're still not willing to play by tsmc rules. biden wanted DEI. trump wanted jobs.
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>>107764588
america is a low trust society. all that the protestant ideals gave you was propping up the kikes into power
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>>107764925
depreciation means the fab is running fatally behind schedule, retard.
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>>107766061
Now take away any industry that uses prefabricated components built in another country that are then shipped here to be final step assembled and slapped with a "made in the USA" sticker
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>>107764386
>when pressed on the criteria they admitted they just wanted more people who spoke Chinese lmfao
It's a Chinese company. What the fuck did you expect?
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>>107766267
>nu-uh!
oh ok
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>>107764252
> Do they want people to work for free?
Unironically yes. Welcome to 996 work schedules.
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>>107764588
Perhaps employees would stop seeing their employer as an exploiter if the employer stopped exploiting them.
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>>107764221
Trump would get pissed though
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>>107764221
>china
>save us
kek
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>>107764199
post average IQ of taiwan and USA.
People assume that TSMC shipped their own employees and it wasn't some pajeet hiring manager hiring his inbred cousins to do the job.
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>>107764536
>he doesn't know what's inside the DIEs
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>>107766476
mutts are illiterate
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>>107764536
you're legit fucking retarded
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>>107764252
>Skilled labor is only about 2x as expensive
only costs twice as much bro!
from people who are only prepared to work half the hours!!
while giving a quarter of a fuck!!!
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>>107766267
This.
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>>107764199
isn't this the entire concept of factories working in shifts?
oh no you have to pay someone that normally isn't doing work, you might have to take 0.03% of that pay from a specific someone else that normally doesn't do work either!
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>>107766415
Those aren't mutually exclusive. A bad employee won't become a good employee just because they're given more money.
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>>107764386
>moot
In US English: it is pointless to discuss.
In UK English: it is totally worth discussing.
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>>107764199
How much sex are those Taiwan workers getting compared to the Americans
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>>107764199
This is just gaslight to justify some big transaction in the future and c-suite, upper managers, nepo email writers, etc are probably getting paid some absurd amount.
Wafers are more valuable than ever, there is a lot of money to be made if only upper levels didn't suck up the entire margin.
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>>107764321
It's not that they don't want to work, they just don't want anything but slave labor
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>>107764199
>OY VEY OUR PROFIT MARGINS!
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I can’t believe Taiwan doesn’t want to give up the one thing still keeping them from being invaded. Why are they so selfish?
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>>107770532
The young people of taiwan have already been indoctrinated with chink propaganda and vote overwhelmingly for china friendly politicians.
In any case decentralizing the production of chips is a boon for the entire world and should be made by force if necessary.
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>>107764199
They can still have chink slaves in a cage always on standby. There is no need to pay American wages to chink slaves in a cage. Chink slaves in a cage, shipped in from Taiwan, don't even need to be listed as employees since they get no pay.
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>>107766367
Do you think American companies that operate in China just send a bunch of monolingual white people over there and say "learn to speak American you goddamn gooks" every time the language barrier comes up?
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>>107764199
Americans are not serious people, and more importantly they have an intellect of a monkey. Let chinese people deal with advanced technology. (taiwan was and always will be china btw)
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>>107770843
Yes, that's usually how it works when you expand your business to foreign market and invest some of your own skilled labor in the process. Starbucks and other McFranchises operating in China don't do that because the whole hierarchy of people making up a single branch of the company in question is sourced locally. On the other hand, I know for a fact that a (((well-known German tech corporation))) requires Chinese workers to be fluent in written English and that many German manufacturers operating in Poland either incentivize or outright require most workers to understand German on an intermediate level.
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>>107764321
When American workers work for foreign companies, they make good quality products.
When American mgmt hires foreign workers, they make bad quality products,

The workers aren’t the problem
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>>107766196
>Biden wanted DEI
>got it
>trump wanted jobs
>didn't get them
O world, world, world!
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>>107764843
>countries where human beings have rights
USA unrelated.
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>>107770441
>export most of your country's manufacturing and know-how overseas
>enjoy slave labor and cheap imported goods made outside your jurisdiction
>repeat 9001x until shit becomes a national security issue
>cheap labor stops being cheap
>pic rel
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>>107764252
Where did you copy this comment from?
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>>107771319
trump got everything else he wanted still
even if pretty much none of it was a part of his campaign promises
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>>107770818
>they asked to be slapped
>they begged 4-5 times for it
>she obliged
I need to get to this company
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>>107770589
>give up your country because I want cheap RAM
Least neo-con-niving yankee
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>>107765873
Trump literally said we'll be running things there
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>>107770532
>the one thing still keeping them from being invaded
Chinese cowardice? Last thing China needs is another 3 day military operation that lasts 10 years.
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>>107770818
>ywn have a qtp2t dommy-mommy boss who slaps you and makes you walk on all fours
why even live
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>>107773088
>daddy said
Are there any troops on the ground? Was there a regime change, tardlard?
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>>107773359
Yes and yes (in progress) respectively. Do you think we just kidnapped Maduro for the lulz?
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>>107773417
That's incorrect on both accounts, they did the snatch and hoped for the best after. The former VP is in charge now and jailing up people who supported the incursion.
How do you manage to tie your own shoelaces?
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>>107764199
i guess asians really are the perfect slave workers
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>>107764906
this, drug cartels don't even exist
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>>107773554
the camps we're going to put communists in won't exist either. manipulating language is fun!
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>>107767283
That's it, for a China bugman it's expected to go to the office if your boss calls you up at 1 AM.
In the US anyone will flat out refuse to be called upon like that so you have to have three skilled workers (3 shifts of 8 hours) instead of one who is ready to get out of bed at 1 AM. And you'll have to pay all 3 double what you pay a China bugman. Your employees cost you 6x more in the US, without even taking into account you have to train 3 US workers for every China bugman.
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>>107767283
American workers outperform everybody other worker in the world on Productivity.
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>>107764199
TSMC had employees from the USA travel to the main facilities in Taiwan to be trained. They refused to perform extensive training for them because it would devalue the skills of the managers, so much like the Arab culture they refuse to share knowledge because it cuts into their personal prestige.
On the same line everything about supporting the manager, to make them seem better and have more face, rather than the product, company or even individual achievement. In Taiwan with Chinese face culture your value to the company comes only from how good you can make your boss look. Which is bugman insanity.

TSMC isn't the world leader because they are good at what they do. They are the world leader because the government of Taiwan bet everything on making them into a strategic resource provide with subsidies and tax breaks.
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>>107774261
>w-we the americans aren't even trying hard you chink!
Implessive
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>>107770818
>>107773341
>>107771740
There are times you would feel justified raping a woman.
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>>107774309
American worker: Lets make the best product that we can.
TSMC: Yes, but how does that make your manager advance in the corporate structure?
AW: By making a better product that has a higher profit?
TSMC: Which is shared equally by all, so none will raise higher.
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>>107774334
There are times you should consider killing yourself. For example, right now, or as soon as possible.
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>>107774422
Why?
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>>107773359
It's impossible to reason with a migger.
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>>107764359
Oversea invasion is almost impossible today.
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>>107773523
how do you manage to rationalize that america went in and took the leader of an entire country from his palace, guarded by the military and cuban special forces, like it was a walk in the park, in record time, with no us casualties? are you fucking retarded anon?

the vice president got paid off you fucking idiot. how else did they know exactly were he was, what the layout of the palace was, who was guarding him, where they all were? do you understand how fucking hard that shit is in real life? and she'll do exactly what america wants because if she doesn't she'll get a tomahawk instead of a federal holiday.

dude, careful with calling other people stupid. you're not putting on much of a show yourself.
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>>107764199
>WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO PAY OUR SLA- I MEAN, WORKERS, A LIVABLE SALARY???
>AAAAAAAAHHH SAVE ME NIGGERMAN
Why the FUCK are bugmen like this?
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>>107764199
TSMC wants slaves.
We don't do that in America.
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>>107776940
it seems like this entire board is just nothing but chinese shills. you actually have them seething at every post saying this
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>>107764199
>can't have slaves in the US
>have to pay them in real (American) money
Poor TSMC... do they have a Kickstarter we can donate to? I don't think my tax dollars are doing enough.
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>>107771497
jidf shill discord that defends trump online 24/7
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>>107774261
>They refused to perform extensive training for them because it would devalue the skills of the managers, so much like the Arab culture they refuse to share knowledge because it cuts into their personal prestige.
the survival of Taiwan depends on the gatekeeping
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>>107764199
>but in Taiwan, it will be fixed at 2 a.m.
Yes because they've had decades to train staff to replace it and stockpile tons of spare parts.

Also, no they close down for a while after each +5.0 earthquake
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I am looking forward to a 500 percent price increase in anything that contains silicon
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>>107764199
>unironically graveyard shift for warehouse work
Enjoy your shit quality and suicide rates
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>>107764536
imagine believing the narrative lmao

>>107764273
>>hire only beaners and pajeets
source: your botted ass

>noo it's not american whites!
it's always someone else, isn't it?

>>107766061
*assembler
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>>107764378
SAAAAAR PLEASE REDEEM VISA PLEAAAAASE SAAAARRRR I WILL WORK HARD I WOLL WORK BEST LOVE AMERICA NUMBER 1 INDIA GREABT WORKER SAAR PLEAAAAAASE
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>>107777986
Not really, this whole thread reads like mutt cope on steroids - including your post
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>>107764199
In Taiwan the manager of TSMC will literally drag Chang from hes bed to get it fixed.

But the good news is he can pretty much go in retirement after 8 years of working there.
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>>107781861
The US just need to import 200 million jeets and they'll make better fabs in 2 years.
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>>107764199
They are dragging their feet because they don't want to share production. Maybe ASML should follow suit.
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>>107764591
Americans have a higher productivity than real countries that are not a petrol state or Americas personal tax haven, other than Germany.
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>>107783553
>gdp per hour
LMAO even.
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>>107783553
>GDP is a good measure of production and value!
I'm sure the americuck fuckers reselling chinese stuff are more valuable than the ones actually manufacturing it in china.
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>>107764619
>>107776954
>>107778912
>uhm, actually here in American(tm) we don't treat our employees like slaves!
You're competing against slaves, and there are no barriers to prevent those slave-produced goods from undercutting all of your shit. In a global market, you either work like a slave or you lose your job to one. Unfortunately, working like a slave is "illegal" in America, so your job isn't viable.
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>>107764838
Not everyone is an expert on American naming conventions.
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>>107785027
You know literally nothing retard. Taiwan is not a slave country. TSMC pays us extremely well and their employees have well above standards of living compared to others in Taiwan. Fucking dumb American. Asia is a developed region, people are paid very well and have far better standards of living, and free healthcare, than in the US.
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>>107764619
That's not how you make progress. Whites worked 996 during the industrial revolution and that's what it took to make the West indomitable. Face it, we need a slave class to jerk around on cheap wages WITHOUT IMPORTING JEETS.
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>>107764843
That sort of attitude is precisely why manufacturing got outsourced wholesale to China. You CAN'T have prosperity from industry at home by subscribing to Communist nonsense about equal wages and fair working hours for everyone.
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>>107764536
Better than being ruled by satanic pedophiles.
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>>107787355
so germany and japan don't make anything?
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>>107773540
>>107774181
>>107776940
>>107776954
You shirk work. You deny reality. Whatever helps you zoomer pieces of shit cope, go waste your lives jerking off to e-models.
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>>107764199
its just excuses they keep making so they can try to renege on all the deals they signed. taiwan knows that as soon as they lose their monopoly the west is going to abandon them. theyre just asian jiggers
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>>107787381
>two countries kept on a leash by America since WW2
you're trolling.
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>>107787146
>and free healthcare
....and it blows a massive hole on national budget because all the boomers keep visiting the hospital over literally nothing.
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>>107787487
You literally know nothing about Taiwan retard.
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>>107787521
I was fucking there
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>>107787487
That bullshit happens with the NHS. Taiwan is far more disciplined when it comes to social healthcare governance.
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>>107787528
Yeah as a fucking retarded American Tourist clearly. You have no clue about actual life in Taiwan and it's so apparent.
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>>107787563
They have news on the TV that keep saying that they lose fuck tons of money on universal healthcare.
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>>107787589
Fuck off retard. You're spouting propaganda you have no clue about.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-taiwan-gave-every-resident-health-care-while-0ru6e/
Meanwhile in the US people go into debt over a flu shot and die because of it.
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>>107766213
The Arizona fab literally opened years ahead of schedule thobeit.
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>>107787381
Germany and Japan have both brutality devalued their own labor to stay competitive in the global export market.
Even today germans have surprisingly low wages for their output compared to some of their neighbors. All side effects of policy decisions made decades ago to keep exports flowing.
To be a leader in exports you either have to sacrifice lots of money with massive subventions or cut wages, or do it all at once.
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>>107787589

thats the point and retards like you are so fucking dumb.
yeah you do loose money with healthcare that's normal it's a public service that allows your population to stay healthy and not being a country where you've massive health problems because people are scared to go to the hospital.
>muuh private hospitals
yeah sure tell me more about those private hospitals that only rich people aka 1% go and who cost a lot of money.tell me how they gonna do with 99% coming at them ,tell them to fuck off ?
fucking retard ,no wonders you've got crackheads and obese and we see weird disease unknown since one century coming back. But you right you're fucking american ,Israel ? LETS POUR ALL THE MONEY OMG GOD BLESS THE ISRAEL SO THEY CAN HAVE HEALTHCARE
HEALTHCARE FOR MY PEOPLE ? WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU FUCKING COMMIE.


retard!
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>>107787668
>>107787909
I just don't think it's sustainable. TSMC fab workers earn 100K USD a month which is fine.
A Radiologist, however, earns 20K USD a year. Which is crazy when they also have to deal with crazy boomers on daily basis
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>>107787589
TV is run by libtards everywhere.
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>>107787831
Germany is FUBAR
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>>107787909
>thirdie still seething
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>>107788134

don't you have a baby's cock to suck rabbi ?
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>>107788155
should have used more caps to show you really mean business
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>>107764389
Americans work 16 hours a week. Most Americans see these jobs as beneath them
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>>107764199
>If it breaks down at 1 in the morning, in the U.S. it will be fixed the next morning, but in Taiwan, it will be fixed at 2 a.m.
That's just flat out wrong. I'm on call two weeks at a time two weeks off with the expectation of instant response and I get paid almost nothing.
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>>107788201
Americans used to work these jobs. They don't do that anymore.
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>>107764199
Burgers won't work unless you pay them 500$ an hour and be part of a union with free sex.
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>>107788224
Yeah, OP is a retard. If you've worked at any mission critical business you know shit gets fixed on the fly or you're up sitting on a call with a vendor until it does. Especially in medical where every minute in downtime translates to a fine that has to be paid.
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>>107788467
Nah only Taiwanese do that
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>>107764516
>TSMC's issue is expecting VERY skilled workers to do shit like 996.

No wonder their birth rates are lower than the West.
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>>107764199
Taiwan is giving away the only thing that makes them valuable to trump
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>>107774422
ywnbaw
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>>107770589
>The young people of taiwan have already been indoctrinated with chink propaganda and vote overwhelmingly for china friendly politicians.
your information is from /pol/
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>>107764252
>Do they want people to work for free?
Yes.
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>>107764199
Americans and fat, brown and stupid.
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>>107789222
how many US military bases we got in that shithole of yours?
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>>107787724
that's just the cope you're being fed. they're running behind schedule of the roadmap. you don't just build a fab plant, or even plop down a bunch of machines and be done with it.
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>>107787146
>Taiwan is not a slave country
I guess paying you half as much as an American would receive (but probably even less than that) for your labor and expecting you to jump out of bed whenever the boss calls really isn't slavery... but it's close!

Do you get to live on your own, or do you have to live on company property?
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>>107787146
>it's not a slave, those poor niggers were stacked head to foot, 250 in a little box!!!
Nobody fucking cares, people call it slave labor when the pay is under minimum wage in the USA. If you have a minimum wage, you're not going to be competitive in the global economy, end of story. I'm obviously not talking about nigger slave labor you retarded fucking faggot (but in actuality you're also competing against that because of resources coming out of Africa, so fuck you for being wrong in the first place).
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>>107790467
>tsmc employees get paid less than minimum wage in america
What compels retards like you to spew shit out of your mouth?
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The tech world seems to be on shaky ground, i.e., it depends on a constant supply of low-priced chips, which in turn requires slave labor.
And guess what? The bug slaves are no longer reproducing.
It's over. We had a good run.
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>>107790537
>requires slave labor.
no it doesn't. engineers get paid a shitload of money, there is no "slave labor" in cutting edge fabs
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>>107764199
>When will they realize they can just fund and hire Raspberry Pi to save fabrication prices.

Never, all the crap tech CEOs should be getting negative bonuses along with all their management.

Somehow failing an entire company that was built to last deserves these shitheads raises.

Negative bonuses.

No risk, no reward. Filthy shithead inheritors.
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HAHAHAHA

Systematic failure for being leeches.

I've been yelling at these fucking fools for a year, they're all keeping quiet and collecting their overinflated paychecks.

Fucking fire everybody who isn't speaking first.
Fire everybody who hired them and didn't fire them.
Negative bonuses for the CEOs until fat is vehemently cut out.

No pay. They didn't hire a single person they needed to because of their overinflated ego. Negative bonuses cut into their wages.
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>>107764588
Leftist? Nigger, american right elected a retard from a tv show because they thought the whole world is screwing them over
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>>107764199
it's nothing more than a bribe to prevent political tariffs



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